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What is Sunak up to? – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 11,736
edited March 12 in General
What is Sunak up to? – politicalbetting.com

When you’re worried Labour are going to accuse you of bottling a May election, certainly an interesting tactic to then not deny a May election https://t.co/gmoblc2UrN

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,789
    Thoughts and prayers for Red Bull's HR department.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,004
    edited March 7
    Third.

    Thank's for the header.

    I think Sunak hasn't got the foggiest idea what he was up to.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,263
    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,345
    He's not up to much.
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    FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,073
    I’m very disappointed. I was expecting a thread about the Lewisham mayoral by-election!
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
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    eekeek Posts: 25,147

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
    So you are actually going to vote for this Government or are you going to sit the election out?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,655
    I don't think to be too Talleyrand* about this. He may just be being incompetent.

    *On hearing of the death of the Ottoman ambassador: 'I wonder what he meant by that.'
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,789

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286
    On topic. Yes, quite @TheScreamingEagles

    As I was saying on the previous thread!!
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    mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,159

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    Quite. And who is being teased? No-one else cares.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    mwadams said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    Quite. And who is being teased? No-one else cares.
    I actually think all of labour and others do care and really want it on 2nd May
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    BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 18,824
    malcolmg said:

    .

    malcolmg said:

    Good morning from Wembley. I note the Trump thread and nod that the budget was such a non-event that it has no political implications the morning after.

    So, stick or twist. Is the "actually you're still paying the most amount of tax ever" budget enough to make Sunak sprint for May? Or do they need another autumn statement and thus slide towards ELE?

    The big story from yesterday is Hunt's journey on equalising IT and NI which is something labour should be in favour off not objecting strenuously to it this morning

    Nothing sides more with workers than this policy and I expect it to be in the conservative manifesto
    As you know I'm not voting Labour...

    The simple truth is that almost none of these budget measures will be enacted, by any party. The country is broken and something more substantial will be needed after the election, whenever it is.
    The NI and child benefit changes together with 8.5% pension increases will be in April's pay packets
    Both of which reduce the size of the tax increase. Like reducing inflation, its still an increase...
    Show your working.

    For a median earner on PAYE it's a tax cut.

    For someone like Malc who thinks he shouldn't pay the same rates as those on PAYE it's a tax rise.
    Listen you lying little snake. I pay all the same taxes as everyone else and I bet multiple times the money you are paying as a thick low income sponger. I pay more than twice your minimum income so that you can get loads of freebies for you and your brood.
    National Insurance is a tax you nincompoop.

    HMRC says its a tax under international law and treaties.

    Do you pay that? Or did you not understand that?

    Are you lying, or ignorant?
    You are a thick brainless absolute moronic cretin. I pay all the taxes the government levies, what part of that does your empty head not register. GFY it is like talking to a brick.
    Ooh you're so close that you're almost getting it you nitwit.

    Paying all the taxes the government levies isn't the same as paying the same taxes as everyone else, as you originally claimed.

    Everyone else who is working for a living and not reached retirement age has to pay National Insurance as a tax on their earnings. You don't.

    That anomaly needs fixing. You should pay the same tax rate, including NI, on your earnings as a worker does.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    eek said:

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
    So you are actually going to vote for this Government or are you going to sit the election out?
    I will not vote Reform or Labour but labour will retake the seat anyway
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,078

    mwadams said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    Quite. And who is being teased? No-one else cares.
    I actually think all of labour and others do care and really want it on 2nd May
    Yes.
    Because we want rid of this wretched administration asap.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,789

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,004
    edited March 7
    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,816

    eek said:

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
    So you are actually going to vote for this Government or are you going to sit the election out?
    I will not vote Reform or Labour but labour will retake the seat anyway
    So Plaid Cymru it is then?

    You've got more in common with HY than you realise!
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    BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 18,824
    edited March 7
    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of just over £500.

    https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36


    Actually you kind of prove my point here.

    As discussed per mile of a car driving there's no fatalities until you get to nine significant figures, that's how incredibly safe our roads are.

    But those are averages. Averages mask variance.

    Law abiding, legal drivers are even safer than that.

    Criminals who break the law are more dangerous by far.

    We should clamp down more on the criminals, and less on the law abiding.

    Can we agree on that?
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



    And this seems lenient

    https://news.sky.com/story/wales-rugby-star-mason-grady-fined-for-driving-at-115mph-along-m4-13089175
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484

    eek said:

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
    So you are actually going to vote for this Government or are you going to sit the election out?
    I will not vote Reform or Labour but labour will retake the seat anyway
    So Plaid Cymru it is then?

    You've got more in common with HY than you realise!
    No and no
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    mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,159
    dixiedean said:

    mwadams said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    Quite. And who is being teased? No-one else cares.
    I actually think all of labour and others do care and really want it on 2nd May
    Yes.
    Because we want rid of this wretched administration asap.
    But that doesn't make for "teasing".
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,327
    edited March 7
    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of just over £500.

    https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36


    It's more than that, though. A hit and run of a 15-year old boy on a (push) scooter; the car found burnt out in a nearby village. We've just had 20MPH limits posted in the village; I'm not against them, but they're pretty much pointless if people just ignore them. There are lots of problems with attitudes towards roads and safety.

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/boy-riding-scooter-seriously-injured-28769430

    Fortunately the **** has been caught. There are *lots* of rumours swirling around; best not to put them on here, especially as some are contradictory!

    Edit:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-68492997
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,789

    I’m very disappointed. I was expecting a thread about the Lewisham mayoral by-election!

    I know I am a polymath but not even my expertise extends to Lewisham and their mayoral election.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466
    edited March 7

    Thoughts and prayers for Red Bull's HR department.

    They pay Jos Verstappen*. Red Bull's HR department is no doubt about as effective as the Trump Organisation's. Or the Post Office's.

    * No idea if they do this directly. They certainly do indirectly, and very happily engage with him.
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,246

    I’m very disappointed. I was expecting a thread about the Lewisham mayoral by-election!

    I know I am a polymath but not even my expertise extends to Lewisham and their mayoral election.
    I am expecting a low turnout (even I had forgotten about it until reminded on our street WhatsApp group) and a win for Labour's Brenda Dacres (who is lovely BTW).
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,327
    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...
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    OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,246

    eek said:

    4th like CON as all pensioners move their vote to REF or LAB

    This one won't
    So you are actually going to vote for this Government or are you going to sit the election out?
    I will not vote Reform or Labour but labour will retake the seat anyway
    So Plaid Cymru it is then?

    You've got more in common with HY than you realise!
    Wales and Essex. Is this a Gavin and Stacey situation?
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466
    ydoethur said:

    I don't think to be too Talleyrand* about this. He may just be being incompetent.

    *On hearing of the death of the Ottoman ambassador: 'I wonder what he meant by that.'

    I was wondering whether you were referring to Napoleon's famed estimation of the diplomat?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,356

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    2007 vs 2010 is a bit more consequential than May vs September.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286
    So, Sunny Boy, election on May 2?

    Bring it on, lad.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,702

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    2007 vs 2010 is a bit more consequential than May vs September.
    Still. When Sunak dreamed of becoming PM I don't think Brown was the PM he was hoping to be compared to.
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 828
    edited March 7

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Implying that it was the complainant who published the messages, rather than a leak from the investigation...

    I don't really get how that's cause for suspension, though - I could understand if she'd breached an NDA, but the messages in question were clearly personal and non-work related...
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    2007 vs 2010 is a bit more consequential than May vs September.
    Still. When Sunak dreamed of becoming PM I don't think Brown was the PM he was hoping to be compared to.
    Indeed. Bottler Brown and Scaredy Sunak.

    The comparisons rather write themselves.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,562
    That budget did not scream “GE in 8 weeks” to me. Quite the opposite. It seemed to be laying the ground/setting the scene for an autumn fiscal event.

    But given Sunak is crap at messaging, who the hell knows anymore.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967
    edited March 7

    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



    And this seems lenient

    https://news.sky.com/story/wales-rugby-star-mason-grady-fined-for-driving-at-115mph-along-m4-13089175
    It seems about right to me. If you're going to break the speed limit by 45mph a motorway has to be the safest place to do it.

    My days of always checking the top speed of every car I owned at least once have long gone - but when I was Grady's age...
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 828

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    2007 vs 2010 is a bit more consequential than May vs September.
    Other way round. The fuss in 2007 died down after the GFC and only political anoraks were still bringing it up in 2010. But bottle an election in May, and it'll still be a live issue come September.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,975

    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



    And this seems lenient

    https://news.sky.com/story/wales-rugby-star-mason-grady-fined-for-driving-at-115mph-along-m4-13089175
    It seems about right to me. If you're going to break the speed limit by 45mph a motorway has to be the safest place to do it.

    My days of always checking the top speed of every car I owned at least once have long gone - but when I was Grady's age...
    How much does a track day cost?
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967

    That budget did not scream “GE in 8 weeks” to me. Quite the opposite. It seemed to be laying the ground/setting the scene for an autumn fiscal event.

    But given Sunak is crap at messaging, who the hell knows anymore.

    The issue is: come the autumn, what room will there be for another 'fiscal event', unless you mean the sort the previous PM delivered.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,562

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    2007 vs 2010 is a bit more consequential than May vs September.
    Still. When Sunak dreamed of becoming PM I don't think Brown was the PM he was hoping to be compared to.
    Gordon Brown is a political titan compared to Rishi Sunak.

    And I say that as someone who was far from being a fan of Mr Brown or his government.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967
    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Implying that it was the complainant who published the messages, rather than a leak from the investigation...

    I don't really get how that's cause for suspension, though - I could understand if she'd breached an NDA, but the messages in question were clearly personal and non-work related...
    It's a terrible look for Red Bull.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,745

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    Fifteen years on, that still sounds more scary than it should.

    On topic, I'm sure Rishi wants to call the election for a date when he can win. Trouble is, that date doesn't seem to exist.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
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    noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 20,959

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Implying that it was the complainant who published the messages, rather than a leak from the investigation...

    I don't really get how that's cause for suspension, though - I could understand if she'd breached an NDA, but the messages in question were clearly personal and non-work related...
    It's a terrible look for Red Bull.
    I think they will try and wing it.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,479

    Thoughts and prayers for Red Bull's HR department.

    Don't worry. Red Bull can afford the vast payout she will get.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286
    edited March 7

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    Sweden officially becomes NATOs 32nd member
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,543

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
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    StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 14,745

    That budget did not scream “GE in 8 weeks” to me. Quite the opposite. It seemed to be laying the ground/setting the scene for an autumn fiscal event.

    But given Sunak is crap at messaging, who the hell knows anymore.

    If there was likely to be more fiscal firepower in the autumn, I'd agree. But my understanding is that there's unlikely to be much, or any.

    Yesterday was more like a doomed army scabbling together whatever it could find to have one last shot, even if it was unlikely to work.
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,975
    edited March 7

    Sweden officially becomes NATOs 32nd member

    Who delivers Putin's NATO Salesman of the Century Award?

    I know it's only a double glazing window discount voucher.....
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466

    That budget did not scream “GE in 8 weeks” to me. Quite the opposite. It seemed to be laying the ground/setting the scene for an autumn fiscal event.

    But given Sunak is crap at messaging, who the hell knows anymore.

    The issue is: come the autumn, what room will there be for another 'fiscal event', unless you mean the sort the previous PM delivered.
    I'm not convinced there will be another fiscal event. I think the purpose of this one was for people to have had several months of tax cuts *in their pockets*.

    Having another fiscal event means giving Labour (and commentators, and maybe the market) a chance to rip it down, all immediately before an election. If the policy won't have any practical effect in the next 5 weeks, better to make it a promise to be contingent on re-election rather than something the public's already banked. In politics, gratitude tends to come in advance.

    But also, timings. If you're going to have a fiscal event then parliament needs to be sitting. That means either shoehorning something into the couple of weeks between summer and the conference season or waiting until after the conferences. The former is an extremely tight timescale; the latter means foregoing control of the narrative that conference is intended to give you, as well as meaning parliament is also available for any other purpose Labour, the LDs, SNP and so on can put it to. Plus, it pushes the window for an election back to late Nov at least, if the fiscal event is mid-Oct. Possible, but not ideal.

    I still reckon Nov 14, called from the Tory conference.
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 828

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,327

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Indeed; but the whole thing whiffs more than a little.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 3,974

    Sweden officially becomes NATOs 32nd member

    Who delivers Putin's NATO Salesman of the Century Award?

    I know it's only a double glazing window discount voucher.....
    Cue Trident Sub Commander.

    Oh, hang on...
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,975
    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,356
    https://x.com/mij_europe/status/1765760401378033954

    Macron today produced maps of a poss Russian breakthrough towards Kyiv or Odessa which could oblige the west to act to prevent a Russian victory in Ukraine. In talks w French opposition leaders, Macron said there should be no more “red lines” on Fr involvement in the conflict
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    That budget did not scream “GE in 8 weeks” to me. Quite the opposite. It seemed to be laying the ground/setting the scene for an autumn fiscal event.

    But given Sunak is crap at messaging, who the hell knows anymore.

    The issue is: come the autumn, what room will there be for another 'fiscal event', unless you mean the sort the previous PM delivered.
    I'm not convinced there will be another fiscal event. I think the purpose of this one was for people to have had several months of tax cuts *in their pockets*.

    Having another fiscal event means giving Labour (and commentators, and maybe the market) a chance to rip it down, all immediately before an election. If the policy won't have any practical effect in the next 5 weeks, better to make it a promise to be contingent on re-election rather than something the public's already banked. In politics, gratitude tends to come in advance.

    But also, timings. If you're going to have a fiscal event then parliament needs to be sitting. That means either shoehorning something into the couple of weeks between summer and the conference season or waiting until after the conferences. The former is an extremely tight timescale; the latter means foregoing control of the narrative that conference is intended to give you, as well as meaning parliament is also available for any other purpose Labour, the LDs, SNP and so on can put it to. Plus, it pushes the window for an election back to late Nov at least, if the fiscal event is mid-Oct. Possible, but not ideal.

    I still reckon Nov 14, called from the Tory conference.
    Just in time for their heating bills to munch up any of the cash in their pockets. Makes no sense.

    Sunny should go. And go now.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,757
    Ex-sergeant admits horse racing betting fraud
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crg97wj4en4o

    Ponzi scheme. £10 million unaccounted for.

    Arrested 2019. Pled guilty at trial in 2024. Four and a half years' delay.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,702

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    If all the political journalists are running around talking about possible election dates then they are not running around talking about the weak points found in the budget, the fantasy of the aspiration to abolish NI, or the cuts and tax increases pencilled in to keep debt under control.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967

    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



    And this seems lenient

    https://news.sky.com/story/wales-rugby-star-mason-grady-fined-for-driving-at-115mph-along-m4-13089175
    It seems about right to me. If you're going to break the speed limit by 45mph a motorway has to be the safest place to do it.

    My days of always checking the top speed of every car I owned at least once have long gone - but when I was Grady's age...
    How much does a track day cost?
    Yes, fair point. So far as I know they weren't really available in my young day. Then again a 1300L Mk2 Ford Escort was going to struggle to get much above the speed limit anyway.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    If all the political journalists are running around talking about possible election dates then they are not running around talking about the weak points found in the budget, the fantasy of the aspiration to abolish NI, or the cuts and tax increases pencilled in to keep debt under control.
    Nope. They are talking about those as well. If this is Sunny’s idea of 4D chess, then he has much to learn.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    Will “conditions allow” in January?

    No. So he should go now when he might have the chance of closing the gap. Look brave. Be the bigger man.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,967

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    Will “conditions allow” in January?

    No. So he should go now when he might have the chance of closing the gap. Look brave. Be the bigger man.
    Agreed. With a long campaign anything could happen.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,539

    Ex-sergeant admits horse racing betting fraud
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crg97wj4en4o

    Ponzi scheme. £10 million unaccounted for.

    Arrested 2019. Pled guilty at trial in 2024. Four and a half years' delay.

    There's a lot of trust required in those things esp in a sector that isn't exactly short of rogues. However if done right it can be great. I was in a dog syndicate once. What a thrill when it won a race at the Royal Ascot of greyhound racing - Walthamstow.
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 20,286

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    Will “conditions allow” in January?

    No. So he should go now when he might have the chance of closing the gap. Look brave. Be the bigger man.
    Agreed. With a long campaign anything could happen.
    Sunny should go for it. @MexicanPete is convinced he can do it, swing it back, be the Comeback Kid.

    Sunny, if you are reading: May 2. Do it.
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    FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,073

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    If all the political journalists are running around talking about possible election dates then they are not running around talking about the weak points found in the budget, the fantasy of the aspiration to abolish NI, or the cuts and tax increases pencilled in to keep debt under control.
    Nope. They are talking about those as well. If this is Sunny’s idea of 4D chess, then he has much to learn.
    He would struggle to win at 2D ludo.
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    There comes a point where you can't put it off any longer. Which is a December election. Jan 2025 really isn't on. But in reality, giving Labour free hits in parliament in the autumn is a good incentive not to let it drag on then for another month or so (and potentially into another NHS crisis). By contrast, he can persuade himself that an economic upturn might move the dial over the summer.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,175

    Thoughts and prayers for Red Bull's HR department.

    She’s already said to have turned down £650k (c.10x her annual salary, c.1 month of Horny’s gross salary) to go away. I suspect she wants to see a public tribunal, and will end up settling for a couple of million on the morning of the hearing.
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,702

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    Will “conditions allow” in January?

    No. So he should go now when he might have the chance of closing the gap. Look brave. Be the bigger man.
    He's 20% behind. That's as close to certain defeat as it gets. He'll wait.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    I mean, under our constitution (lack of) it only takes a simple majority in the House to decide you don’t fancy having elections at all until “conditions allow”. 2030? 2040?
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    AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 828

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
    That's what I would have thought - it's been part of the company handbook everywhere I've ever worked.

    I can see why they'd want to get rid of her, but surely a generous payout backed with a compromise agreement including a strict NDA would be the right way to go?
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,975
    AlsoLei said:

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
    That's what I would have thought - it's been part of the company handbook everywhere I've ever worked.

    I can see why they'd want to get rid of her, but surely a generous payout backed with a compromise agreement including a strict NDA would be the right way to go?
    I'm no HR expert or lawyer, but as part of management training I was always told

    1) Separate the parties to the complaint without acting against them outside the process.
    2) Call in HR and the lawyers
    3) Do nothing clever
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466
    biggles said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    I mean, under our constitution (lack of) it only takes a simple majority in the House to decide you don’t fancy having elections at all until “conditions allow”. 2030? 2040?
    No it's not. The Lords retains its absolute right of veto on extending the length of a parliament, under the Parliament Act.

    It's the only thing the Lords *does* have full veto powers on (although its 12-month veto is sufficient now for the rest of this parliament).
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,620
    edited March 7
    And a great clear round from Dylan, current world under-19 champion, in the small agility final

    The next competitor, Sizzle, not doing so well.
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370
    edited March 7
    AlsoLei said:

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
    That's what I would have thought - it's been part of the company handbook everywhere I've ever worked.

    I can see why they'd want to get rid of her, but surely a generous payout backed with a compromise agreement including a strict NDA would be the right way to go?
    Yup. But depends how incompetent one is, how deep ones pockets are, and how angry ones PR people get. A basic principle of employment law is that it is its own thing. You can sack someone for any reason - e.g. being black or a woman - so long as you are willing to pay what the tribunal says you must pay. So employment law matters if you’re a bakery, but not so much if you’re massive and can afford the cost.

    Your reputation might matter to you though.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,175

    AlsoLei said:

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
    That's what I would have thought - it's been part of the company handbook everywhere I've ever worked.

    I can see why they'd want to get rid of her, but surely a generous payout backed with a compromise agreement including a strict NDA would be the right way to go?
    I'm no HR expert or lawyer, but as part of management training I was always told

    1) Separate the parties to the complaint without acting against them outside the process.
    2) Call in HR and the lawyers
    3) Do nothing clever
    How do do you do 1), in the situation where the parties are the CEO and his own PA?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,345
    .

    AlsoLei said:

    AlsoLei said:

    Have we covered this? Red Bull have suspended the woman who made accusations against Christian Horner.

    Not a good look...

    Maybe not (and checks to see if cyclefree is about) but not every complaint is true.
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that the complainant deserves to be suspended.

    Don't most companies have an anti-retaliation policy?
    Isn't there legal issues involved? Retaliation against someone making such a complaint is banned in quite a few places.
    That's what I would have thought - it's been part of the company handbook everywhere I've ever worked.

    I can see why they'd want to get rid of her, but surely a generous payout backed with a compromise agreement including a strict NDA would be the right way to go?
    I'm no HR expert or lawyer, but as part of management training I was always told

    1) Separate the parties to the complaint without acting against them outside the process.
    2) Call in HR and the lawyers
    3) Do nothing clever
    One out of three, then ?
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    bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,370
    edited March 7

    biggles said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    I mean, under our constitution (lack of) it only takes a simple majority in the House to decide you don’t fancy having elections at all until “conditions allow”. 2030? 2040?
    No it's not. The Lords retains its absolute right of veto on extending the length of a parliament, under the Parliament Act.

    It's the only thing the Lords *does* have full veto powers on (although its 12-month veto is sufficient now for the rest of this parliament).
    Yeah ok - “in both Houses”. But joking aside, it’s one of the few things that makes me want something a bit more fixed into a Constitution.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 19,004
    edited March 7

    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of just over £500.

    https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36


    Actually you kind of prove my point here.

    As discussed per mile of a car driving there's no fatalities until you get to nine significant figures, that's how incredibly safe our roads are.

    But those are averages. Averages mask variance.

    Law abiding, legal drivers are even safer than that.

    Criminals who break the law are more dangerous by far.

    We should clamp down more on the criminals, and less on the law abiding.

    Can we agree on that?
    I agree with most of that - certainly to a crackdown on criminals.

    However I'd say the guy in the 4x4 in the video (who nearly rolled when he put it sideways on the verge as well) is a young-lad-who-thinks-he's-immortal-and-did-not-think-of-possible-consequences (he's 25) rather than a 'criminal'.

    I know something about this because I spun my parents' car off a frosted traffic island at the age of 17 years and 8 months (no injuries, bent but driveable). My sister did exactly the same thing with my first car 12 months later (no injuries, bent but driveable).

    I'm not sure what "law abiding" means in this context, when perhaps 70-80% of people who drive vehicles admit to breaking various laws in any 12 month period.

    But I think that dividing it into 'others', such as 'criminals', 'drunk drivers' etc, and 'us', distracts from the very significant elements caused by laziness, carelessness and complacency amongst the 'normal' driving population - for example people who can get a phone cradle from Amazon for £5, but don't bother and do hand-held phone calls instead - at a much higher risk level. Me, I switch my phone off and put it in the glovebox.

    Much of this statistical, and amenable to analysis and targeted adjustments.

    Here's an example of an opportunity to target high risk groups. Fatals per distance driven, segmented by age and sex. On the LHS I'd say it's testosterone, male showing off and trying to pull women. On the RHS it's mainly more old women living than old men, but 85+ year old males seem to have disproportionate numbers of casualty collisions compared to the 1/3 of the age group they comprise- I wonder why?

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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,620
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    Next, Ashleigh Butler, of Britain's Got Talent fame, with Sully....but five early faults and losing time..into sixth place. A disappointing performance
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,702
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of just over £500.

    https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36


    Actually you kind of prove my point here.

    As discussed per mile of a car driving there's no fatalities until you get to nine significant figures, that's how incredibly safe our roads are.

    But those are averages. Averages mask variance.

    Law abiding, legal drivers are even safer than that.

    Criminals who break the law are more dangerous by far.

    We should clamp down more on the criminals, and less on the law abiding.

    Can we agree on that?
    I agree with most of that - certainly to a crackdown on criminals.

    However I'd say the guy in the 4x4 in the video (who nearly rolled when he put it sideways on the verge as well) is a young-lad-who-thinks-he's-immortal-and-did-not-think-of-possible-consequences (he's 25) rather than a 'criminal'.

    I know something about this because I spun my parents' car off a frosted traffic island at the age of 17 years and 8 months (no injuries, bent but driveable). My sister did exactly the same thing with my first car 12 months later (no injuries, bent but driveable).

    I'm not sure what "law abiding" means in this context, when perhaps 70-80% of people who drive vehicles admit to breaking various laws in any 12 month period.

    But I think that dividing it into 'others', such as 'criminals', 'drunk drivers' etc, and 'us', distracts from the very significant elements caused by laziness, carelessness and complacency amongst the 'normal' driving population - for example people who can get a phone cradle from Amazon for £5, but don't bother and do hand-held phone calls instead - at a much higher risk level. Me, I switch my phone off and put it in the glovebox.

    Much of this statistical, and amenable to analysis and targeted adjustments.

    Here's an example of an opportunity to target high risk groups. Fatals per distance driven, segmented by age and sex. On the LHS I'd say it's testosterone, male showing off and trying to pull women. On the RHS it's mainly more old women living than old men, but 85+ year old males seem to have disproportionate numbers of casualty collisions compared to the 1/3 of the age group they comprise- I wonder why?

    Banning >70 year olds from driving would be good for road safety, bad for electoral prospects, study says.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,694
    I’ve just come in. So Sunak hasn’t called the election yet? 🤷‍♀️
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,244
    Foxy said:

    I see Binface is fundraising for his deposit. Seems a sound manifesto:

    https://twitter.com/CountBinface/status/1765669566552707164?t=LCDZ8UlSn5TGNuQ_RZiy_g&s=19

    Whereas the Conservative candidates are taking out enormous loans with the promise that they will pay them back with the proceeds of growth. Which is bound to happen, honest.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,620
    Scout the Australian shepherd sets a high bar in the medium finals with a clear round at 32 secs
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,484
    Sky saying Sunak promised that the standard rate tax would be at 19% by the end of the parliament and conservative mps expect an Autumn statement reducing the tax to 19% before going to a GE in October or November

    Sky's presenter commented it looks more and more likely
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,356

    I’ve just come in. So Sunak hasn’t called the election yet? 🤷‍♀️

    You've given him until next Wednesday at 10:38.
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    TazTaz Posts: 11,484
    MattW said:

    A little FPT: I'm baffled by the ingrowing complacency of some on PB with respect to road safety. It's not as if we can't vastly improve it with fairly minor changes.

    Here's one that came across my screen today.

    Dangerous driver in an uninsured, untaxed, un-MOTd vehicle barely avoiding killing someone because of his impatience to save a few seconds. An army soldier who has access to guns. He also plainly lied on oath, so I expect his army career will be as a Private.

    The sentence? 12 month ban and a fine of £340.

    The video is quite a stunner. https://youtu.be/38nxEB_w2m8?t=36



    Had notification from Durham Constabulary today they were taking action against the motorist I reported, with film from my headcam, for jumping a red light. 👍

    Sadly this one was not a Go North East driver this time.
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    MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,694
    edited March 7

    Sky saying Sunak promised that the standard rate tax would be at 19% by the end of the parliament and conservative mps expect an Autumn statement reducing the tax to 19% before going to a GE in October or November

    Sky's presenter commented it looks more and more likely

    Do you have a date on that autumn statement/fiscal event?
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,356
    IanB2 said:

    Scout the Australian shepherd sets a high bar in the medium finals with a clear round at 32 secs

    Is your dog participating?
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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,466
    biggles said:

    biggles said:

    Sunak is teasing labour and others desperate for a May election, when Autumn is still his choice

    But it will make him look like a bottler.
    I doubt when the GE is actually called it will matter
    Gordon Brown would like to have a word with you.
    To be fair, not calling an election when you've teased it, very obviously prepared for it, and are double-digits ahead, is a rather different business from not calling one when you're (substantial) double-digits behind and have already said it'll be in 2024H2.
    Then why set the hare running by failing to rule it out? He could simply have answered: “No.”
    Because he'd like to go in May if conditions allow.

    Problem is, they won't.
    Will “conditions allow” in November?
    January 2025 it is then :(
    I mean, under our constitution (lack of) it only takes a simple majority in the House to decide you don’t fancy having elections at all until “conditions allow”. 2030? 2040?
    No it's not. The Lords retains its absolute right of veto on extending the length of a parliament, under the Parliament Act.

    It's the only thing the Lords *does* have full veto powers on (although its 12-month veto is sufficient now for the rest of this parliament).
    Yeah ok - “in both Houses”. But joking aside, it’s one of the few things that makes me want something a bit more fixed into a Constitution.
    The 'both Houses' bit does matter though, given that governments tend to have a majority in one but not the other - as now.

    We did, of course, have that Fixed-Term Parliaments bit in our constitution for a while. People decided it didn't work very well. Personally, I quite liked it and think it only needed a bit of tinkering to smooth out the rough edges.
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