I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
The only name that comes to mind is Angus Robertson.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Has getting party members to choose their leader ever gone well?
I mean the last Con Leadership election was a bit of a farce, but in terms of process it seems taken for granted that it was well run. Same with the 2015 Labour Leadership election, or even 2017 (hopefully I have the year right), despite the political chaos involved at least the elections appeared to be run with a level of basic competency.
World popcorn prices hit a new record high on Wednesday as world events moved apace.
'They were spiking after Putin was indicted and starting drunkenly rambling on about what he would do,' said one merchant. 'Then you had all that weird shit in Scotland where Murrell was kicked out and the SNP collapsed around him. But with Trump being arrested, there's real pressure on supplies.'
Merchants reported price increases of up to 140% as people rushed to stock up before shortages strike. 'My warehouse was empty in minutes,' reported one wholesaler. 'Never seen anything like it. Not even when Cummings gave that statement about lockdown breaking.'
However, analysts warn the outlook overall remains poor. With a number of really bad movies in the pipeline for later in 2023 plus the cost of living crisis as the fat old drunk continues to try and seize Ukraine, people may have less reason to buy popcorn.
'We're pinning all our hopes right now on the elections in Turkey. With luck, they will come to our rescue by causing utter chaos and several cases in the Supreme Court,' said the owner of Mr Snap.
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
Dunno how it might work but Stephen Flynn is probably the senior SNP figure to come out with any noticeable credit in the last few weeks. Salmond was leader for 3 years while an MP before coming an MSP.
Of course Flynn may be keeping well out of it until his time comes, and it still leaves the question of who becomes FM meantime.
“whisky export duty” is raised at the SNP leadership hustings hosted by The National. All of the candidates agree to look into it. None levels with the audience that it’s a mad nationalist conspiracy theory.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
Quite so. When I pointed out a few weeks back - as you do - the very obvious issue, that electing the leader was not the same as electing the FM, though, I was positively abused on here.
“whisky export duty” is raised at the SNP leadership hustings hosted by The National. All of the candidates agree to look into it. None levels with the audience that it’s a mad nationalist conspiracy theory.
Every lie we tell incurs debt to the truth. Sooner or later this debt is paid.
If we're talking about Murrell as a cock, a la Mr Eagles, does that mean his defenestration is when we told the SNP, 'Be careful or Chernobyl fallout?'
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Typical pb.com, spend yesterday moaning about people not going to be able to vote in forthcoming council elections, and today it swings round to too many votes in the SNP contest. Politicians just can't win these days.
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
Dunno how it might work but Stephen Flynn is probably the senior SNP figure to come out with any noticeable credit in the last few weeks. Salmond was leader for 3 years while an MP before coming an MSP.
Of course Flynn may be keeping well out of it until his time comes, and it still leaves the question of who becomes FM meantime.
Again, if I understand correctly it would be the Depute Leader that would be the leader of the Holyrood group, if a member of it. So presumably Keith Brown would be nominated.
Strangely, I never minded fag smoke in pubs. Or people doing it in my garden /patio at house parties.
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
One place I miss fag smoke is at gigs. They now smell of dry ice and BO. I went to see a Jesus and Mary Chain reunion gig about 5 or 6 years ago and they were absolutely brilliant. I’d love to know if Jim Reid has a portrait in his attic. But there was a filth at their gigs I went to in the late (very late, like December 1989, just before my 16th!) Eighties that was missing and fag smoke was a key element of that!
Yeah, it did cover up BO and flatulence to be fair.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Typical pb.com, spend yesterday moaning about people not going to be able to vote in forthcoming council elections, and today it swings round to too many votes in the SNP contest. Politicians just can't win these days.
It’s really simple - 1 person, 1 vote…
Instead we have no paperwork, no vote and voting the right way, have a vote (even if you are no longer a member)
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
Forbes as party leader and FM just leads to a party civil war instead.
She is a leader most SNP MSPs and MPs haven't endorsed, while she has the social views of Ann Widdecombe with centre right economics. Which SLab would be ready to pounce on.
While the SCons would pounce on the hapless Yousaf
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Typical pb.com, spend yesterday moaning about people not going to be able to vote in forthcoming council elections, and today it swings round to too many votes in the SNP contest. Politicians just can't win these days.
It’s really simple - 1 person, 1 vote…
Instead we have no paperwork, no vote and voting the right way, have a vote (even if you are no longer a member)
Well, that's what they had, but it looks like the one person with the one vote has somehow lost it. Very careless.
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
Forbes as party leader and FM just leads to a party civil war instead.
She is a leader most SNP MSPs and MPs haven't endorsed, while she has the social views of Ann Widdecombe with centre right economics. Which SLab would be ready to pounce on.
While the SCons would pounce on the hapless Yousaf
That's at least a good, clean, honourable sort of embarrassment. Party civil wars are very fashionable right now, why should the SNP be exempt?
A rerun leadership election due to actual fraud, however...that *isn't* usual. Nor is it a good look. Another Scottish party leader, Alec Douglas-Home, found this out the hard way.
That is something they need to avoid at all costs.
James Chalmers@ProfChalmers· 1h Just saw someone describe SNP departures an an exodus, which makes perfect sense in a campaign which so far has featured Leviticus and Numbers prominently
Other memes are available.....
Apropos of nothing in particular, I note that today is @joannaccherry’s birthday.
So story on Twitter saying Donald Trump will be indicted on Tuesday - to which the response is
Elon Musk @elonmusk If this happens, Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory
As I said at the time, the only way for the GOP to escape Trump was to bring him down in 2021/2.
Trump may be hard to stop becoming the GOP nominee, but the 2020 election suggests the Democrats have a big advantage in getting out the vote. Even if Trump can get 74m votes again, he won't win unless he can persuade a lot of people who voted for Biden to stay at home.
So story on Twitter saying Donald Trump will be indicted on Tuesday - to which the response is
Elon Musk @elonmusk If this happens, Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory
As I said at the time, the only way for the GOP to escape Trump was to bring him down in 2021/2.
Trump may be hard to stop becoming the GOP nominee, but the 2020 election suggests the Democrats have a big advantage in getting out the vote. Even if Trump can get 74m votes again, he won't win unless he can persuade a lot of people who voted for Biden to stay at home.
Indeed, white suburban graduates are the key swing voters in the US right now and they still prefer Biden to Trump even if they might consider DeSantis
Given the lack of men, tanks, and ammunition, exactly what does this warmongering Russian propose they use to march on Constantinople, and deal with NATO’s army when they arrive?
An army that can't take Bakhmut is going to take Constantinople? Right.
But don’t forget that Bakhmut is defended by misled Russians do of course they are as tough as it get… and Turks are Turks 😜
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
Have been reflecting that perhaps enjoying the stunning collapse of the SNP facade is bit unseemly & ungracious.
Then I reflect on how anyone who had the audacity to disagree with them have been called traitors,quislings, anti-Scottish,anti-progressive & I realise I don’t care.
So story on Twitter saying Donald Trump will be indicted on Tuesday - to which the response is
Elon Musk @elonmusk If this happens, Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory
As I said at the time, the only way for the GOP to escape Trump was to bring him down in 2021/2.
Trump may be hard to stop becoming the GOP nominee, but the 2020 election suggests the Democrats have a big advantage in getting out the vote. Even if Trump can get 74m votes again, he won't win unless he can persuade a lot of people who voted for Biden to stay at home.
If he is indicted, the independents will desert Trump.
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
Yes, they see Moscow as the 3rd Rome, after Constantinople fell. Hence Czar (Caesar).
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
Albeit the Grand Patriarch of Constantinople backs Ukraine and the Russian Orthodox church has split its links with the rest of the Eastern Orthodox church
So story on Twitter saying Donald Trump will be indicted on Tuesday - to which the response is
Elon Musk @elonmusk If this happens, Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory
As I said at the time, the only way for the GOP to escape Trump was to bring him down in 2021/2.
Trump may be hard to stop becoming the GOP nominee, but the 2020 election suggests the Democrats have a big advantage in getting out the vote. Even if Trump can get 74m votes again, he won't win unless he can persuade a lot of people who voted for Biden to stay at home.
Good job he does not have a load of right wing militia with machine guns willing to break the law for him then......
James Chalmers@ProfChalmers· 1h Just saw someone describe SNP departures an an exodus, which makes perfect sense in a campaign which so far has featured Leviticus and Numbers prominently
Other memes are available.....
Apropos of nothing in particular, I note that today is @joannaccherry’s birthday.
Whoever is their new leader has a mammoth and probably insurmountable task to restore unity.
I can’t see any of the candidates doing so.
Objectively it is good if democracy is run with a number of parties, all honestly run by transparently decent and able people.
While it is my belief that Scottish independence will not in fact happen in this generation, and FWIW I am not in favour of it, politics as a whole is better better when the SNP is in the hands of able, honest leadership.
Just as Labour has been transformed by having better leadership, and Sunak is a huge improvement on Boris and Truss, so the country will be a better place if Forbes wins. Better still if she was in charge of the Tory party.
I see that the troughers at Silicon Valley Ponzi Scheme have "earned" themselves £15 million in bonuses.
Choose your lamp post...
They also sold a significant tranche of their shares before the shit:fan interface.
AIUI the trouble started because someone actually read the disclosure in note 72(b)(iii)(x) and tweeted it.
So if they disclosed everything before they sold…
Executives selling shares is usually a bad sign. Some of the actions here look like trading on privileged information though, which is a total no-no. I have a feeling, that SVB execs will swapping their pinstriped suits for a different sort of stripy suit in the future.
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
There's a song written before the annexation of Crimea that talks about Russia taking back Sevastopol, then Constantinople and Jerusalem.
Latest statement from Police Scotland on its investigation into SNP finances:
“A report which outlines enquiries already undertaken and seeks further instruction has been submitted to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.
“We are working closely with COPFS as the investigation continues.”
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
There's a song written before the annexation of Crimea that talks about Russia taking back Sevastopol, then Constantinople and Jerusalem.
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
There's a song written before the annexation of Crimea that talks about Russia taking back Sevastopol, then Constantinople and Jerusalem.
I would think Israel and Muslims and non Orthodox Christians would have some words about Russia trying to take Jerusalem
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Surely with Murrell now gone, and so much uncertainty over basic things like how many ballot papers are out there, it makes sense to bring in qualified outsiders to re-run the whole process from the beginning?
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
More public than it is right now?
There is more to come out than an inaccurate membership database and a large chunk of money going missing?
Well I can’t imagine Murrell, nor Mrs Murrell, wanting to answer questions under oath, from people who know where all the bodies are buried.
"I can't recall...I don't remember....no, I don't think anybody ever told me." Repeat ad nauseum.
I just LOVED the way the Nats used to relish calling Boris "the Liar"....
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
There's a song written before the annexation of Crimea that talks about Russia taking back Sevastopol, then Constantinople and Jerusalem.
I would think Israel and Muslims and non Orthodox Christians would have some words about Russia trying to take Jerusalem
latest update from SNP insider who has been extremely accurate up to now!
Rather dramatic. Starting position is generally to be sceptical of exciting claims as by their nature they do not occur very often, but we shall see. It would all be a bit boring if Humza wins and it all just peters out now.
Murrell has already resigned , he could not hold the line till Monday. Humza stopped campaigning a few days ago and repuedly had to b eforced to do the hustings so that it was not really obvious he had the numbers. he has disappeared as well. His pathetic Peter Murrell is brilliant and has won us all these elections and I will b ekeeping him in place has done well.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Surely with Murrell now gone, and so much uncertainty over basic things like how many ballot papers are out there, it makes sense to bring in qualified outsiders to re-run the whole process from the beginning?
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
More public than it is right now?
There is more to come out than an inaccurate membership database and a large chunk of money going missing?
Well I can’t imagine Murrell, nor Mrs Murrell, wanting to answer questions under oath, from people who know where all the bodies are buried.
"I can't recall...I don't remember....no, I don't think anybody ever told me." Repeat ad nauseum.
I just LOVED the way the Nats used to relish calling Boris "the Liar"....
MalcolmG must think all his Christmases have come at once today.
If your aim is an independent Scotland with a flourishing and honest multi party democracy, you may feel empathy with the chap who was up to his ears in alligators when all he was trying to do was drain the swamp.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
More that EdM (in 2015) and Rishi (now) are unlucky, really.
The SNP hegemony over the last decade or so has been remarkable, but there was always a contradiction at the heart of it. It could only hold together for as long as Independence outweighed all other issues. Sturgeon and Cherry shouldn't be in the same party, really. Neither should Forbes and Yousaf.
It takes a lot of cunning to stitch together a disparate rainbow alliance to achieve a single aim. It takes a miracle to hold that alliance together once the moment has passed- whether the aim suceeds or fails.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
MalcolmG must think all his Christmases have come at once today.
If your aim is an independent Scotland with a flourishing and honest multi party democracy, you may feel empathy with the chap who was up to his ears in alligators when all he was trying to do was drain the swamp.
Almost , the naming of the Alphabetties who tried to jail Salmond would complete the picture. They will be bricking it now.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
More that EdM (in 2015) and Rishi (now) are unlucky, really.
The SNP hegemony over the last decade or so has been remarkable, but there was always a contradiction at the heart of it. It could only hold together for as long as Independence outweighed all other issues. Sturgeon and Cherry shouldn't be in the same party, really. Neither should Forbes and Yousaf.
It takes a lot of cunning to stitch together a disparate rainbow alliance to achieve a single aim. It takes a miracle to hold that alliance together once the moment has passed- whether the aim suceeds or fails.
Neither should Bart and HYUFD to be fair. Nor Blair and Corbyn
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
The vision of the Tsar being re-crowned in the reconsecrated St. Sophia and re-uniting the orthodox churches in the New Empire…..
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
More that EdM (in 2015) and Rishi (now) are unlucky, really.
The SNP hegemony over the last decade or so has been remarkable, but there was always a contradiction at the heart of it. It could only hold together for as long as Independence outweighed all other issues. Sturgeon and Cherry shouldn't be in the same party, really. Neither should Forbes and Yousaf.
It takes a lot of cunning to stitch together a disparate rainbow alliance to achieve a single aim. It takes a miracle to hold that alliance together once the moment has passed- whether the aim suceeds or fails.
Yes. If you are a single issue nationalist and separatist party at heart then your policies and administration must be very notably centrist in order not to frighten the horses. Your aim is a new multi party democracy, with everyone allowed to fight their corner of the Overton window and beyond.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
The SNP implosion is remarkable. Thinking about it, I think they deserve it. I'm agnostic to supportive of Scottish independence, but I think the SNP really owed it to the Scottish people to provide an honest blueprint for independence that was clear about the short run costs and provided a well thought out plan covering issues like the currency. They haven't done that, preferring to offer a vague something for nothing version of independence a la Brexit. So they deserve to be in disarray.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
The only name that comes to mind is Angus Robertson.
No No not Macbeth, that would cause more ructions.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
The Russians have a thing about Istanbul/Constantinople in the context of it being the cradle of the Orthodox Christianity that they see themselves as protector of
Yes, they see Moscow as the 3rd Rome, after Constantinople fell. Hence Czar (Caesar).
But Czar was used by Bulgarian and Serbia rulers long before Constantinople fell, just as Kaiser was used by German-speaking rulers.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
As SNP leader?
POTUS I think. PM was small beer to someone of her powers. If anyone can get them to change their constitution, she can
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
A prediction as bold as my New Year's Day one of President Xi being out by the year end.
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
Looks like we could see 2015 in reverse in Scotland at next GE! SNP near wipeout possible!!
Let’s not go overboard here
It's not impossible. The Tories could even end up with more Scottish seats than the SNP.
Nothing is impossible but I think there’s a lot being extrapolated here from what might be a short term difficulty. People are already taking about Tory recovery from Truss FFS
In the fullness of time it will be shown that Truss's "ignore Nicola Sturgeon" comment was the key moment that burst the SNP's bubble and saved the union. She's playing 4D chess at a level beyond the comprehension of the average political pundit.
Yes. As I have oft stated on here, Truss is a political titan of the likes we have never seen before. She’s on her way back.
The career of Jupiter Doke, General, Union Army is instructive…
I reckon Starmer must have offered the souls of his children to the devil to be this lucky.
More that EdM (in 2015) and Rishi (now) are unlucky, really.
The SNP hegemony over the last decade or so has been remarkable, but there was always a contradiction at the heart of it. It could only hold together for as long as Independence outweighed all other issues. Sturgeon and Cherry shouldn't be in the same party, really. Neither should Forbes and Yousaf.
It takes a lot of cunning to stitch together a disparate rainbow alliance to achieve a single aim. It takes a miracle to hold that alliance together once the moment has passed- whether the aim suceeds or fails.
Yes. If you are a single issue nationalist and separatist party at heart then your policies and administration must be very notably centrist in order not to frighten the horses. Your aim is a new multi party democracy, with everyone allowed to fight their corner of the Overton window and beyond.
'Centrist' by local standards, though. Need to dial down the Tory bit somewhat.
That was what the party followed, more or less, until Ms Sturgeon shifted to the green alliance - and, independently of that, it should be said, Labour went all right wing and later Brexiter.
Of course, it leaves the party open to the Labour-LD gerrymander of the modified d'Hondt system (which is precisely why Mr Dewar et al went for that voting system).
Could we see net Tory gains in Scotland at the next general election 👀?
The SNP will have no realistic prospect of delivering independence for several governments, probably for several decades. All they can really fall back on "Is let us negotiate the very best devo maximus - and let us continue to govern Scotland whilst we do."
Indy was their offer; meanwhile, they have been exposed to be shite - possibly worse - when it comes to actually governing Scotland. You can imagine the Scots saying an emphatic "no...." to that SNP offer. We have already seen SNP membership drop by 30%. It could realistically be down 50% by the next election. If that drop in members is reflected in voters, they are going to lose in a tsunami of seats.
Could we see net Tory gains in Scotland at the next general election 👀?
The SNP will have no realistic prospect of delivering independence for several governments, probably for several decades. All they can really fall back on "Is let us negotiate the very best devo maximus - and let us continue to govern Scotland whilst we do."
Indy was their offer; meanwhile, they have been exposed to be shite - possibly worse - when it comes to actually governing Scotland. You can imagine the Scots saying an emphatic "no...." to that SNP offer. We have already seen SNP membership drop by 30%. It could realistically be down 50% by the next election. If that drop in members is reflected in voters, they are going to lose in a tsunami of seats.
The Salmond admins were a lot better than Labour. So time enough to see what happens.
@GlennBBC now Peter Murrell has quit as SNP chief executive with immediate effect
@malcolmg may actually have just spontaneously exploded with excitement...
I told you it was coming
Yeah kudos to you Malcolm - I thought your predictions on here were a bit outlandish but you have been proved very prescient.
What next do you think?
Depends now whether Forbes wins and if she really wants to clean out the stables. There is a shedload of no use bootlicker swho were there solely due to being Sturgeon's buddies , pals who were allowed to self id that they were disabled to go from bottom of list to top due to diabetes, dyslexia etc. So most of teh ministers hav eto go , all of the party officials, the droves of spads and hangers on that have gotten jobs etc. It will be a big job to clear it out and if not done then the decline will continue. Be interesting to see if she has the balls for it. For sure if Regan then she will clear it out quickly. As long as it is nnot Yousaf then they have a chance to get in shape before the election. There is no-one else worth voting for , London parties one and all. If really brave get Salmond back into Holyrood or Westminster, that would set teh cat among the pigeons.
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World popcorn prices hit a new record high on Wednesday as world events moved apace.
'They were spiking after Putin was indicted and starting drunkenly rambling on about what he would do,' said one merchant. 'Then you had all that weird shit in Scotland where Murrell was kicked out and the SNP collapsed around him. But with Trump being arrested, there's real pressure on supplies.'
Merchants reported price increases of up to 140% as people rushed to stock up before shortages strike. 'My warehouse was empty in minutes,' reported one wholesaler. 'Never seen anything like it. Not even when Cummings gave that statement about lockdown breaking.'
However, analysts warn the outlook overall remains poor. With a number of really bad movies in the pipeline for later in 2023 plus the cost of living crisis as the fat old drunk continues to try and seize Ukraine, people may have less reason to buy popcorn.
'We're pinning all our hopes right now on the elections in Turkey. With luck, they will come to our rescue by causing utter chaos and several cases in the Supreme Court,' said the owner of Mr Snap.
Of course Flynn may be keeping well out of it until his time comes, and it still leaves the question of who becomes FM meantime.
Or the SNP leadership contest?
(Be honest, you didn't think that was what I was going to finish with, did you?)
https://twitter.com/staylorish/status/1637029158009151488?s=20
Every lie we tell incurs debt to the truth. Sooner or later this debt is paid.
Instead we have no paperwork, no vote and voting the right way, have a vote (even if you are no longer a member)
I'll flip to the rugby, I think, and watch the Commonwealth 15 v. Italy.
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If this happens, Trump will be re-elected in a landslide victory
As I said at the time, the only way for the GOP to escape Trump was to bring him down in 2021/2.
He followed up "Forbes is too inexperienced to stand" with "Humza odds on must be worth a punt"
What gems might he have delivered today?
She is a leader most SNP MSPs and MPs haven't endorsed, while she has the social views of Ann Widdecombe with centre right economics. Which SLab would be ready to pounce on.
While the SCons would pounce on the hapless Yousaf
A rerun leadership election due to actual fraud, however...that *isn't* usual. Nor is it a good look. Another Scottish party leader, Alec Douglas-Home, found this out the hard way.
That is something they need to avoid at all costs.
Apropos of nothing in particular, I note that today is @joannaccherry’s birthday.
https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1637070154109530112?s=20
I think their work out group was looking at whether they could get a bargain
So if they disclosed everything before they sold…
Then I reflect on how anyone who had the audacity to disagree with them have been called traitors,quislings, anti-Scottish,anti-progressive & I realise I don’t care.
https://twitter.com/Cat_Headley/status/1637075839715008518?s=20
Americans used to love going up on that rooftop, for some reason. The Vietnamese were happy to let them, for some reason...
While it is my belief that Scottish independence will not in fact happen in this generation, and FWIW I am not in favour of it, politics as a whole is better better when the SNP is in the hands of able, honest leadership.
Just as Labour has been transformed by having better leadership, and Sunak is a huge improvement on Boris and Truss, so the country will be a better place if Forbes wins. Better still if she was in charge of the Tory party.
Surmounting insurmonutable problems begins exactly there.
https://twitter.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1637078435381010433
“A report which outlines enquiries already undertaken and seeks further instruction has been submitted to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.
“We are working closely with COPFS as the investigation continues.”
https://twitter.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/1637078435381010433
https://youtu.be/0XlO39kCQ-8
I just LOVED the way the Nats used to relish calling Boris "the Liar"....
The SNP hegemony over the last decade or so has been remarkable, but there was always a contradiction at the heart of it. It could only hold together for as long as Independence outweighed all other issues. Sturgeon and Cherry shouldn't be in the same party, really. Neither should Forbes and Yousaf.
It takes a lot of cunning to stitch together a disparate rainbow alliance to achieve a single aim. It takes a miracle to hold that alliance together once the moment has passed- whether the aim suceeds or fails.
Forbes’ plan is to ask opponents of independence to stop talking about currency, because it’s really annoying
https://twitter.com/staylorish/status/1637089673230073861?s=20
And you were right.
Even though I hold no brief at all for the SNP I didn't quite expect this though!
What next do you think?
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That was what the party followed, more or less, until Ms Sturgeon shifted to the green alliance - and, independently of that, it should be said, Labour went all right wing and later Brexiter.
Of course, it leaves the party open to the Labour-LD gerrymander of the modified d'Hondt system (which is precisely why Mr Dewar et al went for that voting system).
Indy was their offer; meanwhile, they have been exposed to be shite - possibly worse - when it comes to actually governing Scotland. You can imagine the Scots saying an emphatic "no...." to that SNP offer. We have already seen SNP membership drop by 30%. It could realistically be down 50% by the next election. If that drop in members is reflected in voters, they are going to lose in a tsunami of seats.
Do feel for Italy, but only up to a point. Or 7.
Or pieces of shit stick together.
For sure if Regan then she will clear it out quickly. As long as it is nnot Yousaf then they have a chance to get in shape before the election. There is no-one else worth voting for , London parties one and all.
If really brave get Salmond back into Holyrood or Westminster, that would set teh cat among the pigeons.
Sunak equally is more popular in Scotland than Boris was
Boris Johnson’s supporters plotting ‘Spartacus-style’ show of solidarity by voting against any privileges committee sanctions in the Commons
Vote will also act as a ‘show of force’ to Rishi Sunak of support for Johnson
https://twitter.com/RichardVaughan1/status/1637003761913659392