Just spoke to a senior member of the SNP's NEC. They say they have the numbers for a vote of no confidence in Peter Murrell. They're calling on him to resign TODAY.
Given the lack of men, tanks, and ammunition, exactly what does this warmongering Russian propose they use to march on Constantinople, and deal with NATO’s army when they arrive?
More interestingly, he is giving ammunition to China to take back Vladivostok and other parts of formerly-China Russia...
I know that war is anything but funny, but I’d laugh like a drain if Winnie The Pooh started making noises on the Russia/China border.
Then it really would have to be down to nukes saving everything east of the Urals.
The war games will be being played out in Beijing, just in case. Filed under "Easier than Taiwan"...
He must know that the US and Japan are willing to fight with Taiwan, and no-one bar Iran and NK is willing to give Putin the time of day at the moment.
Even banking gone woke, bringing race and nationality into everything. First it was the schools, then the venison, now the banks. I can't keep up with it all.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
latest update from SNP insider who has been extremely accurate up to now!
I was accused of hyperbole by everyone's favourite Sweden based xenophobe for quoting Frazer's 'this is like watching men committing suicide.'
Regardless of whether these rather vague allegations you keep posting are true or not (we'll see) I'm thinking I actually missed on the side of downplaying it.
Yes for sure and it still looks like at 72K members they are over counting by 20K ( members left but kept on books) and yet they issued 78K votes and expect people to just believe it when Murrell says Humza won. Unfortunately some people who received stray voting papers were not the tame sheeple. Betting now is Murrell to be gone by Monday and likely he is already hunkered down in one of their foreign houses.
Watching from afar, it does appear that not even making a public announcement as to the number of party members entitled to vote, makes it easy for people to suggest something going on behind the scenes.
Labour and the Tories both use ERS to conduct their internal elections, which looks more impartial.
Using the ERS is basic sanity, given the personality types involved in political parties.
Just the ability to say - “Shut up and go complain to the experts over there” would be worth it
I don’t ever recall people complaining about the integrity of a party election before. People complain about the rules being the rules, or the eligibility criteria, but not the actual counting of the votes. That’s what happens when you have an independent organisation counting the votes.
Wasnt there threats of court action in one of the labour contests?
From memory, Corbyn went to court to be allowed to stand in the election, after he had received a vote of no confidence from Labour MPs. The rules didn’t state that the leader couldn’t stand, but that was how it was interpreted.
other way around, surely? His opponents sued to demand he get the nominations before standing again rather than standing ex officio. They failed.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
My late father’s car smells like a tobacconist after a fire.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
If it's been smoked in regularly then it's fucked. The smell always comes back eventually. O3 is fine for flipping cars though.
My E63 M6 (which is a keeper because it has 100 point bodywork and is Sepang Bronze) was smoked in and that's not what's up so drastic measures were required. I ended up pulling the whole interior out and selling it on eBay. By emailing or phoning every BMW dealer in Europe I've managed to piece together a full new old stock black interior.
Still doesn't work because it needs a US model ECU as I have manual swapped it.
Lesley Riddoch's timeline is a joy to behold this morning
Lesley Riddy, more like.
(Yes, I returned from obscurity to make this joke).
Anyway, fascinated to learn the real reasons behind Sturgeon's sudden departure, hopefully the next few weeks will provide some clarity. Given that the NEC have suddenly grown a backbone and told him to go today, none of it can be good.
I do hope this Humza Yousaf interview doesn't age badly:
That seems like a poor match but better than dragging UBS down.
I think the Swiss authorities want it to be UBS for national pride reasons.
Yes I thought they were experts in this field. If their banks start failing it won't be long before chocolate and clocks come under the microscope.
Already too late for the chocolate. Toblerone has been forced to remove the trademark Matterhorn from their packaging because it is now made in Slovenia.
Given the lack of men, tanks, and ammunition, exactly what does this warmongering Russian propose they use to march on Constantinople, and deal with NATO’s army when they arrive?
The burning question of the day is exactly how many points Ireland will ship past England
Dare I buy on the spreads?
Ireland to win by 47.
I'm a seller, LP.
Ireland know how to score but defensively England are ok. They can't score though, so I'm going for Ireland by about 20 points. They'll be happy enough with that. It's the grand slam that matters, not the points margin.
Don't be confused, please, don't misunderstand I can't respect your wishes more And this time, I must say I want it my way I'm walking through the door
I want my independence I want my freedom right now, yeah I want my independence I want my freedom, my freedom now
Can someone relieve theuniondivvie of his belt and shoe laces?
You're a charmer, right enough. I have a vague memory of you doing patter about some variation of the SNP leadership being strung up by piano wire and taking a big strop when I suggested that if it ever came to you they would require heavy duty wire. Do you recall that august occasion?
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
If it's been smoked in regularly then it's fucked. The smell always comes back eventually. O3 is fine for flipping cars though.
My E63 M6 (which is a keeper because it has 100 point bodywork and is Sepang Bronze) was smoked in and that's not what's up so drastic measures were required. I ended up pulling the whole interior out and selling it on eBay. By emailing or phoning every BMW dealer in Europe I've managed to piece together a full new old stock black interior.
Still doesn't work because it needs a US model ECU as I have manual swapped it.
You have more car stories than VinWiki’s YouTube channel!
Can someone relieve theuniondivvie of his belt and shoe laces?
You're a charmer, right enough. I have a vague memory of you doing patter about some variation of the SNP leadership being strung up by piano wire and taking a big strop when I suggested that if it ever came to you they would require heavy duty wire. Do you recall that august occasion?
And I'm the charmer?
Your life's ambitions of independence are circling the drain.
ASH Regan’s campaign is reportedly speaking to lawyers about whether to obtain an interdict to pause the SNP leadership contest following several internal party row
Can someone relieve theuniondivvie of his belt and shoe laces?
While I have issues with TUD’s reflexive Anglophobia, I think this reference to mental health is out of order and should be retracted.
As you will see, he was gleefully recalling how he used this notion himself.
So, no.
Because you started using it in the first place, if he is correct, which I note you haven't challenged (and which has very nasty connotations politically).
In any case then you used a similar trope unprompted today.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Mr Meeks is pointing out on Twitter that this SNP implosion is likely to give Labour some easily winnable seats that make the odds of a Labour majority government rather more likely that the current odds.
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
I feel a right dick doing it.
That's because you are (IIRC) in your 60s. The same would be true of mamy things that can feel cool if you are a teenager. I expect you would also feel a right dick skateboarding.
I am 55 and can (just) still ollie... I can also still manual a BMX for the regulation distance (in order not to be a 'wuss') of 2 lamposts.
Do you also have a kewl set of cycling shorts, 'biff' fellow riders when they get in your way and have a dog called Gnasher?
Mr Meeks is pointing out on Twitter that this SNP implosion is likely to give Labour some easily winnable seats that make the odds of a Labour majority government rather more likely that the current odds.
Where would we be without Meeks stating the bleeding obvious.
Strangely, I never minded fag smoke in pubs. Or people doing it in my garden /patio at house parties.
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
Mr Meeks is pointing out on Twitter that this SNP implosion is likely to give Labour some easily winnable seats that make the odds of a Labour majority government rather more likely that the current odds.
Where would we be without Meeks stating the bleeding obvious.
‘‘Twas useful to discover that the odds were 1.77 hadn’t realised that
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Don't think Regan would follow through with an interdict (she's a bit of a blowhard in any case) as derailing the the election now stops what's probably Forbes' best chance of the leadership, and Forbes at least represents her wing of the SNP. Of course the ginger Salmond acolyte perhaps thinks she has a genuine chance of winning some future election..
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Who would be the interim leader while the election is rerun by an outside organisation? Do you think it would still be Yousaf? Would he be elected as First Minister?
The whole thing looks a shocking and entirely avoidable mess.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Surely with Murrell now gone, and so much uncertainty over basic things like how many ballot papers are out there, it makes sense to bring in qualified outsiders to re-run the whole process from the beginning?
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Surely with Murrell now gone, and so much uncertainty over basic things like how many ballot papers are out there, it makes sense to bring in qualified outsiders to re-run the whole process from the beginning?
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
More public than it is right now?
There is more to come out than an inaccurate membership database and a large chunk of money going missing?
Strangely, I never minded fag smoke in pubs. Or people doing it in my garden /patio at house parties.
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
One place I miss fag smoke is at gigs. They now smell of dry ice and BO. I went to see a Jesus and Mary Chain reunion gig about 5 or 6 years ago and they were absolutely brilliant. I’d love to know if Jim Reid has a portrait in his attic. But there was a filth at their gigs I went to in the late (very late, like December 1989, just before my 16th!) Eighties that was missing and fag smoke was a key element of that!
Strangely, I never minded fag smoke in pubs. Or people doing it in my garden /patio at house parties.
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
Looking back it really does feel bizarre that smoking in restaurants was permitted for as long as it was.
On the pub side, there was a particular charm about a certain sort of pub being smoky - the little country/village inn type with the open fire and little snugs. But on balance I think it’s fair play the whole thing has gone now.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
It is probably the only way to avoid a legal challenge but he won't do it. He's as dumb as rocks, very vain and an all round dreadful human being.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
It is probably the only way to avoid a legal challenge but he won't do it. He's as dumb as rocks, very vain and an all round dreadful human being.
Call me Dr Suspicious, but do I get the feeling you're not a big fan of Mr Yousaf?
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
All political careers end in failure
Who would have thought Sturgeon would without warning resign and chaos followed
Those who dismissed the gender recognition controversy cannot have expected the fall out
Teenagers go in big numbers for something that is only slightly illegal, doesn't land you in prison, highly addictive, oils the wheels of social interaction, is disapproved of the the Guardian and parents, somewhat cool, and is designed to be the alternative to the one that kills you.
Can you talk me through how vaping is somewhat cool?
Step 1. Teenagers think a lot of stupid things are cool Step 2. See above
People thought even smoking was cool for crying out loud, well beyond teenage years.
I was more interested in why Algakirk thought it was cool, since I sense like myself he is at some distance from teenagedom. I somewhat atavistically still think smoking is cool, love old photos of people dexterously juggling the slim white cylinders of death. Otoh a gaggle of folk outside pubs or workplaces in a cloud of confectionary scented steam doesn’t do it for me, I find those metal steampunk vaping devices particularly dorky (I’ve used up my annual use of the word dork quota in one hour).
Yes. It brings particular memories. I gave up smoking at age 21. But the 60s and 70s have special smoking memories, and under age drinking. Remember how in cinemas you could see the light from the projector all the way through the air because it was full of smoke.
Tube trains full of smoke. Coffee bars, cafes, on top in buses.
Your clothes always smelling of smoke after you had been to the pub.
I've never smoked but both my parents did in the house. It was only after I left home that I realised my clothes at school must have reeked every day. Never noticed at the time of course.
My father smoked a pipe, to within days of his death, and I had to take his car round various dealers to sell it. I didn’t smoke by then …. hadn’t for 20 years…and the vehicle smelled disgusting. It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
My late father’s car smells like a tobacconist after a fire.
It’s one reason why I kept it and sold mine.
The smoking ban is why you don't see so many dry cleaners nowadays.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
I can't see how he could credibly claim to be elected in the circs. They'd need to redo it with ERS or similar.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Surely with Murrell now gone, and so much uncertainty over basic things like how many ballot papers are out there, it makes sense to bring in qualified outsiders to re-run the whole process from the beginning?
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
More public than it is right now?
There is more to come out than an inaccurate membership database and a large chunk of money going missing?
Well I can’t imagine Murrell, nor Mrs Murrell, wanting to answer questions under oath, from people who know where all the bodies are buried.
Got to ask given that the SNP seem to have issued more ballot paper than they have members - how valid is any election going to be.
Very dodgy. Will be interesting to see if Regan goes with an interdict.
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
What happens if she does?
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
Absolutely. All potential outcomes are terrible.
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM. Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued. Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is of course another solution.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
It is probably the only way to avoid a legal challenge but he won't do it. He's as dumb as rocks, very vain and an all round dreadful human being.
Call me Dr Suspicious, but do I get the feeling you're not a big fan of Mr Yousaf?
I am of course neutral Not a party member, although am a Scottish voter and pro-Indy.
Someone I trust totally knows him through work and has an extremely low opinion of him. It couldn't be lower.
Strangely, I never minded fag smoke in pubs. Or people doing it in my garden /patio at house parties.
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
One place I miss fag smoke is at gigs. They now smell of dry ice and BO. I went to see a Jesus and Mary Chain reunion gig about 5 or 6 years ago and they were absolutely brilliant. I’d love to know if Jim Reid has a portrait in his attic. But there was a filth at their gigs I went to in the late (very late, like December 1989, just before my 16th!) Eighties that was missing and fag smoke was a key element of that!
Actually, Jim Reid for Scotland’s First Minister. The Mary Chain being by far my favourite Scottish export save for John Wark.
"It also shows that China is sitting on more data than it has previously released or shared globally."
File under "NS,S...."
Or they’ve had the time to fabricate it
I think unlikely Chinese authorities are fabricating evidence of reckless, and as it turned out catastrophic, disregard of food safety. Particularly when they have strenuously denied any such thing, despite the panicky closure of those markets following the outbreak.
If the alternative is evidence of reckless and as it turned out catastrophic disregard for lab safety?
Anyway at 7.10 this morning my youngest son was up and feeding his 6 month baby girl when he received a shout. His wife immediately stepped in to take care of their little daughter as he undertook the following with 2 colleagues
I have now checked the SNP's rules carefully, and if I read them correctly the National Executive Committee could appoint an interim leader in this situation, if the election has to be rerun.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
James Chalmers @ProfChalmers · 1h Just saw someone describe SNP departures an an exodus, which makes perfect sense in a campaign which so far has featured Leviticus and Numbers prominently
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I expect @malcolmg will be very pleased
Indeed so must most voters in Scotland no doubt
It was also difficult to sell because the reg. no was 666.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enerzen-Commercial-Industrial-Deodorizer-Sterilizer/dp/B01M7VOSH1/
It’s one reason why I kept it and sold mine.
Choose your lamp post...
Dare I buy on the spreads?
Not sure it will be today. But enough of a worry to keep away from the spread.
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The front runner to lead @theSNP thinks that the NEC of the [checks notes] SNP are “a little bit daft”.
This is not intentional comedy.
https://twitter.com/scotfax/status/1637057453996007424
My E63 M6 (which is a keeper because it has 100 point bodywork and is Sepang Bronze) was smoked in and that's not what's up so drastic measures were required. I ended up pulling the whole interior out and selling it on eBay. By emailing or phoning every BMW dealer in Europe I've managed to piece together a full new old stock black interior.
Still doesn't work because it needs a US model ECU as I have manual swapped it.
How did I miss this?
Humza's response to whether Peter Murrell should go
Jesus my skin is CRAWLING 😱
https://twitter.com/shiny02/status/1635249003817492480
(Yes, I returned from obscurity to make this joke).
Anyway, fascinated to learn the real reasons behind Sturgeon's sudden departure, hopefully the next few weeks will provide some clarity. Given that the NEC have suddenly grown a backbone and told him to go today, none of it can be good.
I do hope this Humza Yousaf interview doesn't age badly:
https://twitter.com/shiny02/status/1635249003817492480
now
Peter Murrell has quit as SNP chief executive with immediate effect
https://twitter.com/ConnorGillies/status/1637061055019995138
Are the SNP seriously going to try and stagger on through a leadership vote, which is likely to be challenged in the courts if Yousaf wins?
Ooh, you little liar.....
I mean, they can hardly ask Sturgeon to stay on in the circumstances, or Salmond or Swinney to stand in, and Flynn is in Westminster.
Robertson maybe in a desperate emergency for a couple of months but what mechanism could they use?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWIbCtz_Xwk&ab_channel=AvocatulPoporului
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1877–1878)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Stefano
Ireland know how to score but defensively England are ok. They can't score though, so I'm going for Ireland by about 20 points. They'll be happy enough with that. It's the grand slam that matters, not the points margin.
Literally.
Must look out that students' song of 100 years ago to see how it ends.
Even allowing for the - ahem - questions that are now being asked about her methods.
Clearly following her Sir Alex they're now into their David Moyes phase. For much the same reason, as well.
Need = Knew
Isla Bryson might be epochal to Scottish Nationalism as Alex Salmond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5xfqHACzvE
Don't be confused, please, don't misunderstand
I can't respect your wishes more
And this time, I must say I want it my way
I'm walking through the door
I want my independence
I want my freedom right now, yeah
I want my independence
I want my freedom, my freedom now
https://youtu.be/OxnnXysOrhw
I have a vague memory of you doing patter about some variation of the SNP leadership being strung up by piano wire and taking a big strop when I suggested that if it ever came to you they would require heavy duty wire. Do you recall that august occasion?
I’m glad I have no investments/shares in either.
The phrasing's a bit unfortunate: "our membership number lies", indeed. "Rests" might have been a more sensible word, in the circumstances.
https://twitter.com/leftworks1/status/1637067635480485888?s=20
Your life's ambitions of independence are circling the drain.
So, no.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23395677.ash-regan-team-discuss-court-action-pause-snp-leadership-election/
How the hell can Yousaf keep running as Mr Continuity? He's a dismal candidate under any circumstances, but this is a spectacular car crash.
In any case then you used a similar trope unprompted today.
Again, we come back to there is no way Sturgeon can stay. And AIUI (please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no way of replacing her bar this election. Even if there was, who is there to ask?
The SNP are impaled on a spike of their own making, but impaled they are.
The interesting thing is what happens if Ms Forbes wins. It's not as if Ms R has much of a hope at the moment (so she is n ot losing anything by her attitude).
Bothered me virtually everywhere, particularly in restaurants where some people couldn't read the room (or didn't give a crap) and were doing it right up until it was banned in 2007.
The whole thing looks a shocking and entirely avoidable mess.
Whoever is their new leader has a mammoth and probably insurmountable task to restore unity.
I can’t see any of the candidates doing so.
The alternative being the whole thing ending up in court, with all the dirty laundry aired in public?
Stop the count: Sturgeon remains as temporary leader, despite being completely compromised
Stop the count alternative: They have to find an interim leader that Holyrood can agree on as FM.
Carry on: Humza Yousaf wins. Legal challenge issued.
Carry on alternative: Kate Forbes wins - the Greens fall out of the coalition. Possible failed FM confirmation vote - there's only 28 days to install an FM or we have to have an election.
*fires up Tesco website to order a truckload of popcorn*
There is more to come out than an inaccurate membership database and a large chunk of money going missing?
On the pub side, there was a particular charm about a certain sort of pub being smoky - the little country/village inn type with the open fire and little snugs. But on balance I think it’s fair play the whole thing has gone now.
Yousaf could withdraw.
I don't for a second suppose he will, but it would leave Forbes as party leader and save the party any further horrendous embarrassment.
Because if it isn't and there really is worse in the background...
Who would have thought Sturgeon would without warning resign and chaos followed
Those who dismissed the gender recognition controversy cannot have expected the fall out
Someone I trust totally knows him through work and has an extremely low opinion of him. It couldn't be lower.
Minister. The Mary Chain being by far my favourite Scottish export save for John Wark.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-tape-boat-north-wales-26503492#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Perhaps something more unpleasant might surface about Nicola Sturgeon's resignation, but the last couple of weeks has been full of high farce.
But I keep coming back to - who the hell could they pick?
James Chalmers
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Just saw someone describe SNP departures an an exodus, which makes perfect sense in a campaign which so far has featured Leviticus and Numbers prominently
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