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  • eekeek Posts: 28,370
    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience. But I am basically "uninsurable" as a policyholder so they probably wipe their arses with my claims on Mrs DA's policy.
    You may not need a lawyer - but hit Autotrader to get the real value of an identical replacement car because the first offer will be a low ball one.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    edited November 2022
    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
  • Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    IMO the fundamental principle of the NHS is "free at the point of use." This has been somewhat stretched - e.g. prescription costs, dentists, opticians - but it's still mostly there.

    This utterly removes it. The cultish religion of the NHS will be protected at all costs, even if 'free at the point of use' disappears.
    Yes, I think that's right.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,370

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    IMO the fundamental principle of the NHS is "free at the point of use." This has been somewhat stretched - e.g. prescription costs, dentists, opticians - but it's still mostly there.

    This utterly removes it. The cultish religion of the NHS will be protected at all costs, even if 'free at the point of use' disappears.
    Yes, I think that's right.
    Surely the religion of the NHS disappears if it's not free for everyone. Once it's free for everyone the NHS would need to generate a price list at which point private hospitals won't appear so scarily expensive.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288
    edited November 2022

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    I was surprised on the upside by my last experience for my daughter's eczema which had gone beyond the OTC stage. Phoned middle of the day, got an appointment with an Advanced Clinical Practitioner within 48 hours.

    There is clearly a place for a PCSO type
    doctor, and I'm reassured that entry is restricted to those already holding medical registration (e.g. nurses and pharmacists). Get pharmacists as pharmacists to do what they are comfortable with as well, and a decent amount of primary healthcare strain will be eased.

    Enough? Don't know, but a solid start.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,829

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Robert Jenrick tells @skynews Britain chose a "settled position" in 2019 on #Brexit and "we're not" having a Swiss-style agreement.

    BUT: "That doesn't mean we're not interested in improving out trading relations with the EU or security and migration partnerships..."

    https://twitter.com/tamcohen/status/1594594973680295943
  • MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,829

    MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
    Yes, the NHS is now essentially another sop for old people. Any adult under 60 struggles to get in person appointments unless they're at death's door (in which case it's the 7h a&e queue). The services gap in the UK between retirees and working people is absolutely shocking. One day some party will come along and harness that into lots of votes.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

  • ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Off-topic:

    Just had an (ahem) 'interesting' weekend: the sort of weekend that you're glad everyone's come out of alive and (relatively) sane.

    Started off with damaging Mrs J's car on Friday night when I hit a deer whilst driving my son back from an event, and went downhill from there... :(

    Now I've got an insurance claim to deal with, and hopefully a little quieter time...

    Venison for supper: lovely.
    That would really have impressed Mrs J (a pescatarian):

    "Hi dear, I've some bad news. I've knackered your car. But on the positive side, how do you feel like gutting and skinning a Muntjac?"
    If she was annoyed, you'd get a roe instead.
    This would be perfect if the real name of @JosiasJessop was Wade.
  • algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    They almost certainly do it (deliberately) to constrain and manage demand.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,190
    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    OK.

    I'm thinking of doing something very silly.

    I'm going to create a pb Mastadon server. And then I'll set up automatic cross-posting.

    Write something on PB, it'll appear on the PB Mastadon server.
    Write something on the PB Mastadon server, it will automatically cross post past to PB.

    What do you guys think?

    So effectively there will be a Mastodon bot account republishing vanilla comments?

    How are you going to deal with the reply element? You'll probably want to strip it from the Mastodon end for the character limit, but threading will be difficult to reconstruct, either way, won't it?
    I've no idea what it is, but can you at least agree how to spell it?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
  • eekeek Posts: 28,370
    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    The website diagnoses form that our doctor has works well - here are my symptoms (photos) here’s the current state of play 3 minute phone call and a prescription is sent.

    Mind you that has a lot to do with my need to reach a particular doctor who only works Wednesday morning (he’s a skin specialist and the rest of the week he’s at the hospital).
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362
    eek said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    IMO the fundamental principle of the NHS is "free at the point of use." This has been somewhat stretched - e.g. prescription costs, dentists, opticians - but it's still mostly there.

    This utterly removes it. The cultish religion of the NHS will be protected at all costs, even if 'free at the point of use' disappears.
    Yes, I think that's right.
    Surely the religion of the NHS disappears if it's not free for everyone. Once it's free for everyone the NHS would need to generate a price list at which point private hospitals won't appear so scarily expensive.
    Free at the point of use is the beginning, middle, and end of the NHS. The origin story of the NHS is built on people not being able to afford to call the doctor in the period before the NHS.

    That and queueing. The British fetish for queueing also explains a lot.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Off-topic:

    Just had an (ahem) 'interesting' weekend: the sort of weekend that you're glad everyone's come out of alive and (relatively) sane.

    Started off with damaging Mrs J's car on Friday night when I hit a deer whilst driving my son back from an event, and went downhill from there... :(

    Now I've got an insurance claim to deal with, and hopefully a little quieter time...

    Venison for supper: lovely.
    That would really have impressed Mrs J (a pescatarian):

    "Hi dear, I've some bad news. I've knackered your car. But on the positive side, how do you feel like gutting and skinning a Muntjac?"
    If she was annoyed, you'd get a roe instead.
    This would be perfect if the real name of @JosiasJessop was Wade.
    It would be a Supreme irony.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
    Yes, the NHS is now essentially another sop for old people. Any adult under 60 struggles to get in person appointments unless they're at death's door (in which case it's the 7h a&e queue). The services gap in the UK between retirees and working people is absolutely shocking. One day some party will come along and harness that into lots of votes.
    You just know that Max's tune is going to change once he gets past 60.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    rcs1000 said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    Before you make a claim, work out if it is your financial interest to do so.

    That claim will remain on your record, affecting your insurance rate for many years. If the damage is modest, you would be well advised to bite the bullet and pay it yourself. There's no point in taking 500 quid from an insurance company and then paying 2,000 more over the next five years in premiums.
    How does the lay-person work that out?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,397
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Although of course many of the counties were founded as money making ventures. E.g. Gloucestershire by the Grace brothers (who were officially amateurs)!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,270
    eek said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    IMO the fundamental principle of the NHS is "free at the point of use." This has been somewhat stretched - e.g. prescription costs, dentists, opticians - but it's still mostly there.

    This utterly removes it. The cultish religion of the NHS will be protected at all costs, even if 'free at the point of use' disappears.
    Yes, I think that's right.
    Surely the religion of the NHS disappears if it's not free for everyone. Once it's free for everyone the NHS would need to generate a price list at which point private hospitals won't appear so scarily expensive.
    When Blair was PM, the following happened. Waiting lists were a bit high. The EU court ruled that if you had to wait too long, you could go private in any other country in Europe. The various EU governments had to move quick to restore the system of rationing healthcare by limited expenditure.

    What didn’t get noticed by the commentators was this - under EU trade rules, if you could go private abroad, you could go private in the U.K.

    Get your treatment via Bupa and claim back on the NHS.

    An accidental, near part privatisation of a chunk of the NHS.
  • ydoethur said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Although of course many of the counties were founded as money making ventures. E.g. Gloucestershire by the Grace brothers (who were officially amateurs)!
    Of course.

    Everyone knows their main jobs were running a department store and innuendo factory.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,829

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
    Yes, the NHS is now essentially another sop for old people. Any adult under 60 struggles to get in person appointments unless they're at death's door (in which case it's the 7h a&e queue). The services gap in the UK between retirees and working people is absolutely shocking. One day some party will come along and harness that into lots of votes.
    You just know that Max's tune is going to change once he gets past 60.
    Unlikely because none of these services will exist by then. Your generation is going to leave the nation completely bankrupt.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    Chris said:

    RH1992 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Piers Morgan
    @piersmorgan

    Outrageously disrespectful to Qatar that the BBC didn’t broadcast the World Cup opening ceremony, and instead put out more virtue-signalling guff about how awful it is. If they’re that appalled, they should bring home their vast army of employees & spare us this absurd hypocrisy."

    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1594380221356072960

    This from a man who is flying to Qatar to provide punditry for Fox Sports.

    Their coverage is sponsored by Qatar Airways, and it showed today. It's not been without controversy even in the US, with this article praising the BBC's coverage.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/fox-sports-fifa-world-cup-qatar-coverage-video-reaction-human-rights
    Yes, but if he thinks Qatar is wonderful you can't accuse him of hypocrisy.

    Of course he can't quite say as much, but droning on about "virtue-signalling" allows people to be effective apologists for bigotry without actually "coming out" as bigots, in much the same way as droning on about "political correctness" used to do.
    See also, those droning on about 'wokism' today.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,270
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    The sneered at Victorian thing about amateur sport wasn’t just snobbery and class prejudice. In Georgian times, various sports had become incredibly corrupt, due to huge sums paid and gambled.

    The amateur thing was a reaction to that.

    Some people were surprised when corruption appeared in cricket, when big money appeared in the game. I wasn’t.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
    Yes, the NHS is now essentially another sop for old people. Any adult under 60 struggles to get in person appointments unless they're at death's door (in which case it's the 7h a&e queue). The services gap in the UK between retirees and working people is absolutely shocking. One day some party will come along and harness that into lots of votes.
    You just know that Max's tune is going to change once he gets past 60.
    Unlikely because none of these services will exist by then. Your generation is going to leave the nation completely bankrupt.
    That's how we found it tbf.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,700
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Someone is unfamiliar with the GAA.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,020
    edited November 2022
    Apparently no Foden today for England.....sigh...only Englands most creative and gifted player warming the bench again.
  • eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    The website diagnoses form that our doctor has works well - here are my symptoms (photos) here’s the current state of play 3 minute phone call and a prescription is sent.

    Mind you that has a lot to do with my need to reach a particular doctor who only works Wednesday morning (he’s a skin specialist and the rest of the week he’s at the hospital).
    We use the Ask My GP system in my area which works brilliantly. Simple to use, plenty of space and flexibility for you to describe symptoms or concerns and you then choose how you would like to be dealt with (Phone, email or appointment). You can also submit photos as part of the system. They have a dedicated doctor at the practice who goes through all the AMGP requests each morning and does a simple triage - identifying those who can be replied to by a simple phone call or email and those who need further follow up. It is very effective and means you can generally get a same day appointment if the doctor thinks it is needed.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    What was it about Donald Trump that attracted you as a business partner ?

    Trump Family’s Newest Partners: Middle Eastern Governments
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/20/us/politics/trump-organization-oman-deal.html

    They clearly rate his chances of re-election.
    The amount of money the Trump family has received from Saudi Arabia is remarkable.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,664

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    The website diagnoses form that our doctor has works well - here are my symptoms (photos) here’s the current state of play 3 minute phone call and a prescription is sent.

    Mind you that has a lot to do with my need to reach a particular doctor who only works Wednesday morning (he’s a skin specialist and the rest of the week he’s at the hospital).
    We use the Ask My GP system in my area which works brilliantly. Simple to use, plenty of space and flexibility for you to describe symptoms or concerns and you then choose how you would like to be dealt with (Phone, email or appointment). You can also submit photos as part of the system. They have a dedicated doctor at the practice who goes through all the AMGP requests each morning and does a simple triage - identifying those who can be replied to by a simple phone call or email and those who need further follow up. It is very effective and means you can generally get a same day appointment if the doctor thinks it is needed.
    I have to say the Klinik system introduced for our surgery works well too. Very quick response on both occasions I have used it, one of which required a face to face consultation which was booked the same day.

    There is a still a telephone service for those who can't use a computer, I am not sure how well that works though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073

    ydoethur said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Although of course many of the counties were founded as money making ventures. E.g. Gloucestershire by the Grace brothers (who were officially amateurs)!
    Of course.

    Everyone knows their main jobs were running a department store and innuendo factory.
    That was their descendant, young Mister Grace.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362
    Tres said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Someone is unfamiliar with the GAA.
    There is a lot of money in the GAA, even if the players are all supposedly amateurs. A bit like College sports in the US.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    edited November 2022
    WillG said:

    FIFA are implying they will book Harry Kane and other European captain for wearing an armband that he has worn for the last three games, purely because the rainbow element of it suggests support for gay people. This will be disgusting if it happens. I hope the England fans immediately boo the referee if it happens and then start "the referee's a wanker" chants for the whole game.

    Maybe "the referee's a sod" would be better, as that would carry a prison sentence.
  • A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.
    "So Mr Infantilo, what was it that attracted you to this oil-rich country of multi-billionaires as a venue for the World Cup?"
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    Get Babylon and some kind of private health insurance. For everything I just went through I went via Babylon and AXA. If I'd gone via the NHS I'd probably still be waiting to see the GP.
    I don't think I've seen a GP in person for years. Probably 2018 was the last time, when I needed antibiotics for a chest infection.

    Ever since it's been an e-consult - it's very hard to get them to see you physically (there basically has to be no alternative, I think)
    Yes, the NHS is now essentially another sop for old people. Any adult under 60 struggles to get in person appointments unless they're at death's door (in which case it's the 7h a&e queue). The services gap in the UK between retirees and working people is absolutely shocking. One day some party will come along and harness that into lots of votes.
    I remember a play called Dog Ends, with Leonard Rossiter, in which the NHS introduced a service called “selective culling” to deal with financial pressures.

    This was back in 1984 but seems prescient.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    Worked in management at Twitter, with an unverified account?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360
    ydoethur said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Although of course many of the counties were founded as money making ventures. E.g. Gloucestershire by the Grace brothers (who were officially amateurs)!
    Cricket was notoriously corrupt, for most of the 19th century.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    I know you're not anti-trans, but you certainly go out of your way to make people think you are.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    The website diagnoses form that our doctor has works well - here are my symptoms (photos) here’s the current state of play 3 minute phone call and a prescription is sent.

    Mind you that has a lot to do with my need to reach a particular doctor who only works Wednesday morning (he’s a skin specialist and the rest of the week he’s at the hospital).
    We use the Ask My GP system in my area which works brilliantly. Simple to use, plenty of space and flexibility for you to describe symptoms or concerns and you then choose how you would like to be dealt with (Phone, email or appointment). You can also submit photos as part of the system. They have a dedicated doctor at the practice who goes through all the AMGP requests each morning and does a simple triage - identifying those who can be replied to by a simple phone call or email and those who need further follow up. It is very effective and means you can generally get a same day appointment if the doctor thinks it is needed.
    It works well for me, too.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    :)

    A bit of advice a cousin learnt the hard way: if your car ends up on its roof after a crash, don't just undo your seat belt. He was relatively okay after the crash, but suffered a minor spinal injury when he fell head-first onto the roof.

    Instead, if you can, put your hands up (down) and try to lower yourself down, or slow the fall.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360
    Sandpit said:

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    Worked in management at Twitter, with an unverified account?
    If Elon Musk destroys Twitter, that will be performing a public service.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    The ERG are losing their shit over any attempt to have a better trading arrangement with the EU, threatening all sorts of mayhem before they lose their seats.

    Once more we turn to the Brexiteer we can no longer sack for a view...


  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    edited November 2022

    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    :)

    A bit of advice a cousin learnt the hard way: if your car ends up on its roof after a crash, don't just undo your seat belt. He was relatively okay after the crash, but suffered a minor spinal injury when he fell head-first onto the roof.

    Instead, if you can, put your hands up (down) and try to lower yourself down, or slow the fall.
    Yep, that’s what they tell racing drivers who finish upside-down after a crash. Wait for the recovery, don’t undo your seat belt because you’ll land on your head and bend your neck.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ya_EBsn2V5M <- from inside.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=urH7zLgC9Yk <- from outside.

    Edit: obviously, if your car’s on fire, different rules apply.
  • Morning all! On topic I find it very easy for people to be misleading, disingenuous or otherwise telling untruths on this subject. Quote simply because it is such a tangled mess that it's easy for people to confuse terms like sex and gender as they have confused them generally before the subject came up.

    So whilst I am quite happy to have the SNP labelled as somewhat shifty on this one, I wonder how much is by accident rather than by design.

    In any case, the idea that this is some kind of urgent legislative priority is laughable.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,526
    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    Demand for private medicine is unsurprisingly strongly correlated with lack of speedy availability on the NHS. We saw the reverse around 2007 when waiting times for operations got low enough (max 2 weeks for urgent cases, 18 weeks for anything) that private companies started closing down.

    GP practices vary - some do allow online forward booking - so it's worth asking around the surgeries in your catchment area. And you can generally email your beat police officer, but it's not usually widely-publicised because they worry they'll be swamped.

    As an MP I did widely publicise email availability and promised personal replies for everything except repetition, abuse or factual questions ("when will M1 repairs be complete?"). It kept me up to midnight most days, but got lots of personal votes. I didn't publicise my phone number, because I couldn't deal with calls raining in at all times of the day - replying to emails was demanding but I could do it when I had a space, and it still seems to me the way to go. Nowadays as a councillor, though, I find that people prefer to ask questions via Facebook, which is tiresome as there are several relevant user groups and it's easy to miss a query if it's not furnished with an @ alert.
  • A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    I know you're not anti-trans, but you certainly go out of your way to make people think you are.
    Why do you assume Melissa is trans?

    Having made that assumption why do you implicitly broadcast it? Melissa is a woman; who are you to misgender her as someone who in your view is "really" a man?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    Or at least not until you've slit its throat to bleed the carcass (and make sure of death). If you don't, when you cook the meat a lot of blood remains. Always carry your hunting knife folks.*

    *Obviously I'm joking - the police will fit you up if they stop you for something else and find the knife, as happened to my nephew, a tree surgeon, although he was smoking a joint too...
  • algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    Demand for private medicine is unsurprisingly strongly correlated with lack of speedy availability on the NHS. We saw the reverse around 2007 when waiting times for operations got low enough (max 2 weeks for urgent cases, 18 weeks for anything) that private companies started closing down.

    GP practices vary - some do allow online forward booking - so it's worth asking around the surgeries in your catchment area. And you can generally email your beat police officer, but it's not usually widely-publicised because they worry they'll be swamped.

    As an MP I did widely publicise email availability and promised personal replies for everything except repetition, abuse or factual questions ("when will M1 repairs be complete?"). It kept me up to midnight most days, but got lots of personal votes. I didn't publicise my phone number, because I couldn't deal with calls raining in at all times of the day - replying to emails was demanding but I could do it when I had a space, and it still seems to me the way to go. Nowadays as a councillor, though, I find that people prefer to ask questions via Facebook, which is tiresome as there are several relevant user groups and it's easy to miss a query if it's not furnished with an @ alert.
    It's an under appreciated positive for twitter that you can publicly complain to the unreachable by email. If your complaint is embarrassing enough for them they will usually DM you an email address.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,585
    edited November 2022

    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    Or at least not until you've slit its throat to bleed the carcass (and make sure of death). If you don't, when you cook the meat a lot of blood remains. Always carry your hunting knife folks.*

    *Obviously I'm joking - the police will fit you up if they stop you for something else and find the knife, as happened to my nephew, a tree surgeon, although he was smoking a joint too...
    An old friend of mine as a teenager, used to carry a baseball and a baseball glove in the back of his car - so that when he was stopped and they found the bat, he was simply on his way home from baseball practice.

    He’s now one of the local Constabulary’s finest officers!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Sean_F said:

    eek said:

    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Interesting. I suspect we are going to see more of this:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63659754

    The political campaigning leap to 'The SNP will abolish the NHS in an independent Scotland' is not a big one.
    It's sort of happening by natural selection anyway.

    I increasingly hear of those who can afford it paying £170 to see a private GP because the NHS is so useless.

    I'm always told to "phone the surgery" - why can't I email or forward book? - but I can't get through and, even if I do, no-one picks up the phone.
    People who can email you but you can't email are a bane. There ought always to be parity of access.

    BTW in general you can't email your local police (I think). If so this is a is a time wasting absurdity, as with NHS/GPs.

    The website diagnoses form that our doctor has works well - here are my symptoms (photos) here’s the current state of play 3 minute phone call and a prescription is sent.

    Mind you that has a lot to do with my need to reach a particular doctor who only works Wednesday morning (he’s a skin specialist and the rest of the week he’s at the hospital).
    We use the Ask My GP system in my area which works brilliantly. Simple to use, plenty of space and flexibility for you to describe symptoms or concerns and you then choose how you would like to be dealt with (Phone, email or appointment). You can also submit photos as part of the system. They have a dedicated doctor at the practice who goes through all the AMGP requests each morning and does a simple triage - identifying those who can be replied to by a simple phone call or email and those who need further follow up. It is very effective and means you can generally get a same day appointment if the doctor thinks it is needed.
    It works well for me, too.
    Similar for me. I had a health concern in May, used the e-consult, was called that day by the doctor who called me in for an examination that night. All concerns allayed, within 12 hours. Brilliant. In the old days I would have probably had to wait 4 weeks for an appointment.

    Things are very postcode lottery though. My folks live in a medium sized village and can get appointments any time they want. I strongly suspect that poor GP services tend to correlate to cities.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,360


    Nearly half of young people believe Britain is structurally racist


    "Almost half of young people believe that Britain was founded on racism and is still “structurally racist”, a study says.

    Research by Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck, University of London, for the think tank Policy Exchange, raised concerns that children are being taught contested ideas as fact.

    Six in ten school-leavers said they had been taught concepts associated with “critical race theory”.

    According to polling by YouGov, 18 to 24-year-olds is the only age group that believe schools should “teach students that Britain was founded on racism and remains structurally racist today”. The age group supported the statement by a majority of 42 to 25. Adults rejected it by 53 per cent to 24 per cent."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nearly-half-of-young-people-believe-britain-is-structurally-racist-6ljcdfbtc

    When Britain was founded, the big issue was one’s religion, not one’s race.

    I do wonder about Yougov’s subsamples, though. My step-children, younger relatives, and friends’ children fall into the 18-34 bracket, and I can’t think of any who wish to establish the kind of authoritarian left wing State that Yougov sub-samples find. Most seem entirely open to discussing political ideas with people who disagree with them.

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    edited November 2022
    Also in a racing car you know someone will be there inside a minute of the crash - not always the case for road accidents.

    Edit - no idea why but the 1 character short thing happed - this was a reply to JJ
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Scott_xP said:

    The ERG are losing their shit over any attempt to have a better trading arrangement with the EU, threatening all sorts of mayhem before they lose their seats.

    Once more we turn to the Brexiteer we can no longer sack for a view...


    Frankly if they kick up NOW, when the obvious pitfalls of Brexit are so stark, and so prominent in people's minds, they are even more stupid than I thought.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,840
    edited November 2022

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    Correct adjectival form is cervid, btw. (Offered in a spirit of helpfulness rather than pedantry.)

    But commiserations.

    Kangaroos are worse if they get through the windscreen - their powerful kicking legs with sharp claws can eviscerate. Not that that is any consolation.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,526

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    My two experiences were both positive. We accidentally set fire to the kitchen and did extensive damage to it before we put it out. The adjuster who came round made generous assessments of everything, and had to be talked out of including some damage to the ceiling that we told him had been there before the fire. Similarly, when I had a fall and ripped an expensive suit, they simply paid up without asking to see it. My guess is that adjusters look at your record - frequency of claims, any suggestion of exagerration - and then save time by being helpful if they don't think you're ripping them off. Also, the adjuster probably doesn't really have a personal reason to squeeze you.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    Or at least not until you've slit its throat to bleed the carcass (and make sure of death). If you don't, when you cook the meat a lot of blood remains. Always carry your hunting knife folks.*

    *Obviously I'm joking - the police will fit you up if they stop you for something else and find the knife, as happened to my nephew, a tree surgeon, although he was smoking a joint too...
    An old friend of mine as a teenager, used to carry a baseball and a baseball glove in the back of his car - so that when he was stopped and they found the bat, he was simply on his way home from baseball practice.

    He’s now one of the local Constabulary’s finest officers!
    Sadly for my nephew, although he is a tree surgeon, the joint rather steered the police down the old drugs route, and the knife (which is used for cutting ropes if they become tangled) became something else altogether. His mum lost her shit with the local newspaper as they published the story as if it was a cracking drugs bust, rather than a slightly foolish 19 year old watching a thunderstorm parked up on a hill with a joint (and his penknife in the boot.)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839

    Also in a racing car you know someone will be there inside a minute of the crash - not always the case for road accidents.

    Edit - no idea why but the 1 character short thing happed - this was a reply to JJ

    You can wait several days on the M8.
  • Sean_F said:


    Nearly half of young people believe Britain is structurally racist


    "Almost half of young people believe that Britain was founded on racism and is still “structurally racist”, a study says.

    Research by Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck, University of London, for the think tank Policy Exchange, raised concerns that children are being taught contested ideas as fact.

    Six in ten school-leavers said they had been taught concepts associated with “critical race theory”.

    According to polling by YouGov, 18 to 24-year-olds is the only age group that believe schools should “teach students that Britain was founded on racism and remains structurally racist today”. The age group supported the statement by a majority of 42 to 25. Adults rejected it by 53 per cent to 24 per cent."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nearly-half-of-young-people-believe-britain-is-structurally-racist-6ljcdfbtc

    When Britain was founded, the big issue was one’s religion, not one’s race.

    I do wonder about Yougov’s subsamples, though. My step-children, younger relatives, and friends’ children fall into the 18-34 bracket, and I can’t think of any who wish to establish the kind of authoritarian left wing State that Yougov sub-samples find. Most seem entirely open to discussing political ideas with people who disagree with them.

    I can't think what event "Britain was founded" refers to, or date it to the nearest 1000 years.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    Or at least not until you've slit its throat to bleed the carcass (and make sure of death). If you don't, when you cook the meat a lot of blood remains. Always carry your hunting knife folks.*

    *Obviously I'm joking - the police will fit you up if they stop you for something else and find the knife, as happened to my nephew, a tree surgeon, although he was smoking a joint too...
    An old friend of mine as a teenager, used to carry a baseball and a baseball glove in the back of his car - so that when he was stopped and they found the bat, he was simply on his way home from baseball practice.

    He’s now one of the local Constabulary’s finest officers!
    Depends. Plod might nick you if you don't have a ball.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    "It's difficult to disaggregate the disruption caused by Brexit from that resulting from Covid and Ukraine" @RobertJenrick just said on @BBCr4today

    No it's not. You just look at growth in same-sized EU countries which went through the latter and not the former👇 https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1594614952131690496/photo/1
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    DIT giving the ERG a heart attack at 8.52am https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1594614929432231936/photo/1
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,526

    Andy_JS said:

    "Piers Morgan
    @piersmorgan

    Outrageously disrespectful to Qatar that the BBC didn’t broadcast the World Cup opening ceremony, and instead put out more virtue-signalling guff about how awful it is. If they’re that appalled, they should bring home their vast army of employees & spare us this absurd hypocrisy."

    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1594380221356072960

    He’s got a point. Turned on at 3pm assuming the opening ceremony would be on, only to find it had just finished. Weird. Qatar’s hosting is a disgrace, it should never have happened. But, as we have agreed to be involved in it, we should cover the whole thing openly, and criticise openly whenever justified.
    Perhaps. But on the scale of things to worry about, being possibly disrespectful to the exploitative, homophobic Qatari hosts is pretty low on the list.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    pillsbury said:

    Sean_F said:


    Nearly half of young people believe Britain is structurally racist


    "Almost half of young people believe that Britain was founded on racism and is still “structurally racist”, a study says.

    Research by Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck, University of London, for the think tank Policy Exchange, raised concerns that children are being taught contested ideas as fact.

    Six in ten school-leavers said they had been taught concepts associated with “critical race theory”.

    According to polling by YouGov, 18 to 24-year-olds is the only age group that believe schools should “teach students that Britain was founded on racism and remains structurally racist today”. The age group supported the statement by a majority of 42 to 25. Adults rejected it by 53 per cent to 24 per cent."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nearly-half-of-young-people-believe-britain-is-structurally-racist-6ljcdfbtc

    When Britain was founded, the big issue was one’s religion, not one’s race.

    I do wonder about Yougov’s subsamples, though. My step-children, younger relatives, and friends’ children fall into the 18-34 bracket, and I can’t think of any who wish to establish the kind of authoritarian left wing State that Yougov sub-samples find. Most seem entirely open to discussing political ideas with people who disagree with them.

    I can't think what event "Britain was founded" refers to, or date it to the nearest 1000 years.
    If I had to choose I'd go for the day the link to the continent was broken, with the North Sea and Channel joining.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Scott_xP said:

    "It's difficult to disaggregate the disruption caused by Brexit from that resulting from Covid and Ukraine" @RobertJenrick just said on @BBCr4today

    No it's not. You just look at growth in same-sized EU countries which went through the latter and not the former👇 https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1594614952131690496/photo/1

    Although there is a rather wide spread on that data - see Germany vs France etc. Yes, currently we are at the bottom of one chart, but it might not always stay the same. I might though.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,015
    Shamima Begum in the news today.

    I hope that Leon has stocked up on Kleenex.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,526

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    Eh? Who cares what they look like? - it's what they do that matters.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497

    Tres said:

    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …

    Scott_xP said:

    Fifa have banned Harry Kane and England from wearing the 'OneLove' armband at World Cup.

    ✍️ @SamWallaceTel and @JBurtTelegraph

    #TelegraphFootball #FIFAWorldCup

    So wear it anyway.

    Imagine FIFA kicking England out for that but letting Qatar and Iran play …
    You underestimate FIFA

    Not at all. I have no doubt that is the route they would choose.

    I will be disappointed when we get mealy mouthed expression of support but no action from the US and European countries
    I'd be entirely unsurprised. Those countries would see our departure as increasing the chance of them lifting the crown.

    Europe (and the US, Canada, etc.) need to get together and create a non-corrupt new governing body for football.
    Has there ever been such a thing as a non-corrupt governing body for football? Some things just naturally go together.
    Football and corruption go together contingently not naturally. The corruption is contingent upon football's association with money. The good book points out that money and corruption naturally go together and it is not wrong.

    Amateur sport at the local level does not breed corruption, and that is where all sport should be if sanity were to prevail. With the single exception of a modest structure of county (3 day) and international (5 day) cricket, obvs, where they should be paid the same rate as plumbers.
    Someone is unfamiliar with the GAA.
    There is a lot of money in the GAA, even if the players are all supposedly amateurs. A bit like College sports in the US.
    As I say, amateur sport does not breed corruption. One of the tactics of the corrupt is to misname things. Supposedly amateur sport that pays real money (the sort that interests the corrupt) is professional sport and its name makes no difference.

    The whole culture in sport of mega-bucks, arrogance in victory, despair in defeat, heroes and failures is one of the repellent aspects of a culture which has preserved the worst and forgotten the best aspects of classical culture.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    I've rolled three cars and the urge to GET OUT is visceral and overwhelming. It's an incredibly violent experience with shit flying everywhere and blurred vision. You don't really have any way of knowing if the car is on fire or not. There is no fucking way I'd hang there in the straps waiting for the 35+ BMI marshal to waddle over and take charge.
  • Good morning, everyone.

    Worth noting the UK has both a more services-focused economy and more obese population than comparable EU nations, which will affect things. Comparing with other countries is valid, but the claim things will be identical in terms of consequence (so you can look at Germany's COVID situation and subtract that from the UK to see the impact of leaving the EU) is not.

    And that's before we get to the interplay of multiple significant factors (leaving the EU, COVID, the Ukraine situation).

    It's entirely legitimate to believe we should've stayed in the EU, but slipping into the mirror image of the more zealous Leave advocates and pretending membership was all good (or all bad in the latter case) is not helpful. Or accurate.

    Quite enjoyed yesterday's race. Green bet. Ahead overall for the season, I'm pretty sure, but can't verify due to woeful backing up (though I was better with work, at least).
  • A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    Eh? Who cares what they look like? - it's what they do that matters.
    What they did was silence a lot of “Gender Critical” voices while being a lot more forgiving of homophobic and misogynist TRAs.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,497

    Shamima Begum in the news today.

    I hope that Leon has stocked up on Kleenex.

    The whole story is of course repulsive, but a UK government trying to make it the problem of a random third country (Bangladesh I think) is a further repellent feature. Time for the courts to tell the government to grow up.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,526
    Good Meeks piece uncharacteristically suggesting sensible Leaver strategy:

    https://alastair-meeks.medium.com/the-nightwatchman-e5345c4bf51f
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,593
    eek said:

    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    OK.

    I'm thinking of doing something very silly.

    I'm going to create a pb Mastadon server. And then I'll set up automatic cross-posting.

    Write something on PB, it'll appear on the PB Mastadon server.
    Write something on the PB Mastadon server, it will automatically cross post past to PB.

    What do you guys think?

    So effectively there will be a Mastodon bot account republishing vanilla comments?

    How are you going to deal with the reply element? You'll probably want to strip it from the Mastodon end for the character limit, but threading will be difficult to reconstruct, either way, won't it?
    Not really - if you follow everyone on the server it the thread will be complete

    Also it means that we can ignore posters that we don't particularly wish to read - for instance Leon on his rant days.
    Sure; those were the features I thought might be rather good. I guess a thread per header which just has all the messages with the comments stripped would be fine on the Mastodon side; I was wondering about the replies - just quote the immediate preceding replies back into vanilla? Or the whole thread back up from that leaf? I guess vanilla does the "whole tree from the reply" by default - so maybe not as complicated as I feared!
  • Scott_xP said:
    Easy.

    The general public can't make Rishi's life miserable for two years, the ERG can make his life miserable this afternoon.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    edited November 2022
    Sean_F said:

    Sandpit said:

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    Worked in management at Twitter, with an unverified account?
    If Elon Musk destroys Twitter, that will be performing a public service.
    Why ?

    You're basically saying that getting rid of something that millions of people find useful, but you don't like, is objectively a good thing.
    I think your statement absurd.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,839

    Scott_xP said:

    "It's difficult to disaggregate the disruption caused by Brexit from that resulting from Covid and Ukraine" @RobertJenrick just said on @BBCr4today

    No it's not. You just look at growth in same-sized EU countries which went through the latter and not the former👇 https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1594614952131690496/photo/1

    Although there is a rather wide spread on that data - see Germany vs France etc. Yes, currently we are at the bottom of one chart, but it might not always stay the same. I might though.
    Firstly, the 2 events have had different effects on different countries. So Germany, for example, has been more badly hit by Ukraine because it had a greater reliance on Russian gas. Covid was vastly different for different countries both in its absolute effects and over time as we had differing policies as to how to deal with it. The UK opened up faster than most of Europe and bounced back faster initially resulting in us having the highest growth in the G7 in 2021 but has struggled to build on that success, possibly because of a greater propensity to long Covid. As other countries have caught up this year our performance has inevitably declined.

    So, on this, Jenrick is right for once and @Scott_xP isn't.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    Dura_Ace said:


    I've rolled three cars and the urge to GET OUT is visceral and overwhelming. It's an incredibly violent experience with shit flying everywhere and blurred vision. You don't really have any way of knowing if the car is on fire or not. There is no fucking way I'd hang there in the straps waiting for the 35+ BMI marshal to waddle over and take charge.

    Weren't you somewhat acclimatised by the third time ?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405

    This thread has worn a one life armband and been sent off

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,362

    pillsbury said:

    Sean_F said:


    Nearly half of young people believe Britain is structurally racist


    "Almost half of young people believe that Britain was founded on racism and is still “structurally racist”, a study says.

    Research by Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck, University of London, for the think tank Policy Exchange, raised concerns that children are being taught contested ideas as fact.

    Six in ten school-leavers said they had been taught concepts associated with “critical race theory”.

    According to polling by YouGov, 18 to 24-year-olds is the only age group that believe schools should “teach students that Britain was founded on racism and remains structurally racist today”. The age group supported the statement by a majority of 42 to 25. Adults rejected it by 53 per cent to 24 per cent."


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nearly-half-of-young-people-believe-britain-is-structurally-racist-6ljcdfbtc

    When Britain was founded, the big issue was one’s religion, not one’s race.

    I do wonder about Yougov’s subsamples, though. My step-children, younger relatives, and friends’ children fall into the 18-34 bracket, and I can’t think of any who wish to establish the kind of authoritarian left wing State that Yougov sub-samples find. Most seem entirely open to discussing political ideas with people who disagree with them.

    I can't think what event "Britain was founded" refers to, or date it to the nearest 1000 years.
    If I had to choose I'd go for the day the link to the continent was broken, with the North Sea and Channel joining.
    The problem is dating it accurately. It's the same issue everyone has in trying to choose a different starting date for the calendar system. If you choose an event far enough in the past that all recorded history has a positive year, then it's hard to determine exactly what date that event occurred on.

    You could choose the date of the first reliably dated recorded event in history, but then there's a risk of subsequent records dating an earlier event, which would then have to have a negative calendar year.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    pillsbury said:

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    I know you're not anti-trans, but you certainly go out of your way to make people think you are.
    Why do you assume Melissa is trans?

    Having made that assumption why do you implicitly broadcast it? Melissa is a woman; who are you to misgender her as someone who in your view is "really" a man?
    The tweet is rather pointless without that assumption, isn't it? Carlotta has a distinguished history of letting PB know about trans issues.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,789
    Sean_F said:

    IanB2 said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    BTW, in nearly thirty years of driving, this will be the first insurance claim I've ever had to make, of any kind. Car or house. Is that unusual?

    Also, any tips on dealing with insurance companies? Dos and don'ts ?

    You have to threaten to lawyer up frequently in my experience.
    The deer is obviously going to claim it’s his fault?
    I believe the deer is beyond caring. Unless lawyers now have a link with the cervidaeic afterlife?
    One bit of advice. If you hit a deer, never put it in your car. They are remarkable for surviving car crashes, and will go berserk if they wake up in a confined space.
    We hit a deer. It went clean under the car and out the back and got up and trotted off. I tried to find it but couldn't. Difficult to believe it survived and I'm assuming it was too badly injured to survive long, hence my attempt to find it. It broke a headlight and number plate and the remains of the plate was covered in hair.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,073
    edited November 2022

    Good Meeks piece uncharacteristically suggesting sensible Leaver strategy:

    https://alastair-meeks.medium.com/the-nightwatchman-e5345c4bf51f

    That is one of his best articles.

    And I'd have said it's not uncharacteristic of him to offer his opponents good advice.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    pillsbury said:

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Twitter’s previous suspension policy explained:

    This is Melissa

    Melisa was in charge of deciding what’s political disinformation on Twitter


    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1594402444666056704

    I know you're not anti-trans, but you certainly go out of your way to make people think you are.
    Why do you assume Melissa is trans?

    Having made that assumption why do you implicitly broadcast it? Melissa is a woman; who are you to misgender her as someone who in your view is "really" a man?
    That's rather like an anti-semite accusing anyone using the word "Jew" of demeaning the person they're speaking about, on the assumption they think Jews are awful too.
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