Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Deltapoll @DeltapollUK · 4m 🚨🚨New Voting Intention🚨🚨 Labour lead at 19 points in results for The Daily Mirror. Con 29% (-2) Lab 48% (+4) Lib Dem 9% (-3) Other 14% (+1) Fieldwork: 27 - 29 September 2022 Sample: 1,613 GB adults (Changes from 22 - 25 September 2022)
I find it curious that the same posters who decry Biden's decline into imbecility, are the same ones who have him playing 4D chess with a daring piece of subterfuge to ensure Germany's resolve is not weakened.
It's Cognitive Dissonance!
Or, Biden has advisors. I mean, I always presumed American presidents have advisors? But I could be wrong
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
I think they have to try and bring Starmer and Reeves in to restore confidence in the country. I don't think they can struggle on and they aren't going to allow a GE and disappear
This is going to be the most excruciating Conference in British political history
Yep, and almost bound to make things worse for the party.
Well, I did warn 'em.
A lot of us did. They decided to turn themselves from the most sensible party of government into a joke party of populist swivel-eyed loons. It is going to be a very long journey back to power. I am in my mid 50s and I suspect I might not see another Conservative government this side of becoming an octogenarian.
After that amount of lefty bossy government we will all be so woke even @Leon will be wearing a skirt announcing they are non-binary and asking people to them Lilly. People will be asking why it is that England, as a region of the EU, gets so many regional assistance grants.
Clearly there is an increasing desire to get rid of the Conservative Party and that is consolidating votes with Labour.
Makes complete sense. The only dilemma I've got where I live is whether Labour or the Lib Dems have the better chance of ejecting the local Tory. Right now I'd happily vote for either.
Larry Summers on Truss, and the rest of the world:
“Global Market Risk Is Building Like in August 2007, Summers Says” “Crisis firefighters had better not book vacations, he says” “Japan’s bond holdings need watching, ex-Treasury chief says”
Does anybody know the % the Tories got in 1997, for me that is their floor, cannot see them getting below that, they had everyone against them then, even the murdoch press.
30.7% is the figure on Wikipedia. Most likely that's across the UK, rather than GB.
Looks more like a ceiling than a floor at the moment.
Does anybody know the % the Tories got in 1997, for me that is their floor, cannot see them getting below that, they had everyone against them then, even the murdoch press.
30.7%; Wiki is our friend. *But* no Kippers/Reform then.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
Am glad to see sterling stable, stock market less so and reports of 40% of mortgage deals being pulled. That's horrendous for people.
You touch their homes and you're toast.
The scale of the YouGov lead is eye-watering. It may come down in due course, it may not. But I'm more convinced than ever that Labour will win an outright majority at the next election.
The Conservative membership only have themselves to blame, but they are wrecking people's lives in the process.
They will not be forgiven for this in a very, very, long time.
The reason this is an extinction level event is that Truss and Kwarteng went missing for several days. If they did a media tour in the immediate aftermath of the 'mini budget', even with the uninspiring reasons they rolled out today, things would be a bit better for them. They rolled this out and weren't around to defend it. The tories either remove them now or they may be completely finished as a political party.
It'd be nice to think so, because frankly they deserve it, but I still don't buy that they'll get ground down to the low 20s in an actual GE. The elderly will rescue them.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
There's also Gove.
But let it be May - just to see Bozo's face.....
Actually had just edited to include Gove (keep forgetting him for some reason!) yes another definite option.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
The reason this is an extinction level event is that Truss and Kwarteng went missing for several days. If they did a media tour in the immediate aftermath of the 'mini budget', even with the uninspiring reasons they rolled out today, things would be a bit better for them. They rolled this out and weren't around to defend it. The tories either remove them now or they may be completely finished as a political party.
It'd be nice to think so, because frankly they deserve it, but I still don't buy that they'll get ground down to the low 20s in an actual GE. The elderly will rescue them.
Not if the value of their property has fallen 30% by 2024.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Would either of them want to take the risk? Same goes for Wallace. The only candidate with nothing to lose because he is already a big winner (and then a loser- because they changed the rules) is Johnson.
Yes, I can actually see the Tories doing a secret deal with Boris: you can come back and lead us and fight the next general election, but on the condition that you step down eighteen months after that general election (assuming we win it). Boris would enjoy it and it would restore his pride. The Tories will just hope that the old magician Boris can also turn his hand to miracles.
By compaison, polls in 1992 were rather less frequent. Here are the polls just before and just after Black Wednesday.
ICM: 5 September C39 L35 and 10 October C38 L38 Mori: 2 September C41 L44 and 19 September C39 L 43 Gallup: 7 September C43 L41 and 21 September C37 L42 NOP: 14 August C43 L39 and 18 September C39 L41
YouGov does tend to overreact to events, but blimey.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
There's also Gove.
But let it be May - just to see Bozo's face.....
Actually had just edited to include Gove (keep forgetting him for some reason!) yes another definite option.
Gove has given the appearance of a mid life crisis the last couple of years. Way too risky a choice for a safe pair of hands job.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
75 nominations for each candidate would be a very good start.
I do get the unspoken, undiscussed plan was to shitefest Johnson past the public; bang a nail through Brexit; quietly shuffle Boris off-stage before he shits himself too badly and then go back to a calm managed democracy 2012-style. Does it feel like it’s going well and smoothly. https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1575532876224864256
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
Yes, it requires virtually total unanimity amongst Tory MPs to avoid a leadership election. That doesn't look likely, to put it mildly.
As an aside, the ejection of the UK from the ERM, combined with some very sensible economic management from Clarke/Major, led to a decade of prosperity.
But it didn't save the Tories from a drubbing in 1997, five years after the ERM fiasco.
Of course, the government implemented a lot of very sensible measures then - in particular things that boosted the savings rate (ISAs, PEPs and the like) - and which led to the Current Account *almost* reaching zero in 1996.
This is going to be the most excruciating Conference in British political history
You waxed your usual lyrical hyperboles about Liz Truss 2 months ago on here stating that she was the real deal, that somehow unexpectedly the Conservative Party had stumbled across the next Margaret Thatcher, that she was the answer to what the country needs.
You are in this, as with 95% of things, completely and utterly wrong.
Other members of this forum, do take note.
Almost everyone else knew she was a walking disaster, unfit for the top job, although even we couldn't quite anticipate the magnitude of her ineptitude.
365 people will be pondering if they have a career under the current branding. There will be wargaming of splits, i can see 'conversations' with Nigel
What does that give them - under our electoral system the chances of you keeping your seat as a Reform MP is less than the 1 week survival odds of an ice cube in the Sahara under a hair dryer....
The reason this is an extinction level event is that Truss and Kwarteng went missing for several days. If they did a media tour in the immediate aftermath of the 'mini budget', even with the uninspiring reasons they rolled out today, things would be a bit better for them. They rolled this out and weren't around to defend it. The tories either remove them now or they may be completely finished as a political party.
It'd be nice to think so, because frankly they deserve it, but I still don't buy that they'll get ground down to the low 20s in an actual GE. The elderly will rescue them.
The tories can have a long half life as a lobby group for pensioners and NIMBY's but they are done for as a governing party after this. Anyone with a job/mortgage/young kids/real life is going to switch to labour for the reasons we have heard from various posters on PB today.
With apologies to @ydoethur for quoting Sam Freedman, I liked this:
"This is voters' first impression of Truss. It's like a new boss has taken over your firm and pissed in the water cooler at an all-staff meeting. You're never going to recover from that."
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
The Tories have rallied behind a single figure before (Howard). I assume in reality you need a cross-faction group of MPs to pretty much ring round and tell all your colleagues that they have to get behind this person or else.
Hopefully the party conference next week will calm things. However what is clear is the PM and Chancellor need to take decisive action to calm the markets to avoid more terrible polls like this
The reason this is an extinction level event is that Truss and Kwarteng went missing for several days. If they did a media tour in the immediate aftermath of the 'mini budget', even with the uninspiring reasons they rolled out today, things would be a bit better for them. They rolled this out and weren't around to defend it. The tories either remove them now or they may be completely finished as a political party.
It'd be nice to think so, because frankly they deserve it, but I still don't buy that they'll get ground down to the low 20s in an actual GE. The elderly will rescue them.
Not if the value of their property has fallen 30% by 2024.
Granted, this and abolishing the triple lock are the two events that could explode the core vote. The Government will scrap child benefit before freezing the state pension, but if we've got a house price crash coming they may be powerless to prevent it.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
The Tories have rallied behind a single figure before (Howard). I assume in reality you need a cross-faction group of MPs to pretty much ring round and tell all your colleagues that they have to get behind this person or else.
Surely one of the neoliberals blowhards would feel compelled to stand, even if Truss could be persuaded to stand down.
And on what possible basis could she stand down anyway? An invented 'illness' maybe?
365 people will be pondering if they have a career under the current branding. There will be wargaming of splits, i can see 'conversations' with Nigel
What does that give them - under our electoral system the chances of you keeping your seat as a Reform MP is less than the 1 week survival odds of an ice cube in the Sahara under a hair dryer....
Yes, FPTP works against them here. If Tory MPs quit to join Reform / UKIP / whatever then they split the right vote & Labour walks in.
Didn’t think there was any way they could remove Truss. Now I think they have to. Massive mea culpa “oh we didn’t realise she would be that utterly batshit”. Swift coronation. Safe pair of hands. Potential for Rishi to come back as CofE. Aim for a GE result that will save as many seats as possible. Try and write all this off as a bit of an embarrassing accident.
Yes
Mordaunt as PM with Sunak as CoE, or vice versa
Pretend this never happened. Cough cough. Ahem. Move on
It won't stop defeat but it might save a few seats
Penny is a good egg, but she’s still too junior. Needs to be someone who has held high office IMHO. You can’t risk the same problem twice.
One of Wallace, Gove, Javid, Rishi, Hunt or May. All have downsides but all have done big jobs and can steady the ship.
Wallace is the obvious choice as he's of no faction, steady pair of hands, and any new administration needs an experienced Chancellor to pick up on day 1 - Sunak.
But how could it be accomplished in practical terms?
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
The Tories have rallied behind a single figure before (Howard). I assume in reality you need a cross-faction group of MPs to pretty much ring round and tell all your colleagues that they have to get behind this person or else.
Or else is - a random right wing MP becoming PM on the votes of utterly insane and very annoyed Tory party members
Hopefully the party conference next week will calm things. However what is clear is the PM and Chancellor need to take decisive action to calm the markets to avoid more terrible polls like this
Absolutely - both resign or you and thousands of conservatives in office will be out of office for decades
I mean: I’m a natural Tory voter. I should be utterly despairing at this. But it is so well-deserved I just can’t help but feel slightly uplifted by it all.
Latest opinion polls are devastating for PM Truss. Devastating. I doubt there’s any coming back from this. Especially since the mortgage misery hasn’t even begun. https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1575535640078389268
365 people will be pondering if they have a career under the current branding. There will be wargaming of splits, i can see 'conversations' with Nigel
What does that give them - under our electoral system the chances of you keeping your seat as a Reform MP is less than the 1 week survival odds of an ice cube in the Sahara under a hair dryer....
Reform is Tice Im talking new entrant to the market. Not saying it will happen but bet your life its being considered. Look at the vote totals for populists in oarts of tge Red Wall, then look at tje Tories in same losing 67% of their support. There are moments for 'something new'. This could be one. It likely won't be, but there is scope
The Con lead in over 65s is down to Con 43, Lab 35, LD 6, SNP 5.
In Leave voters: Con 39, Lab 39.
In the Midlands, which has been the most resilient bit of the Red Wall for them: Con 23, Lab 53.
Maybe getting rid of a popular prime minister because he had a glass of wine and a slice of cake was a mistake.
More likely, though, not picking Rishi was it.
I see this a lot on Twitter. He was very unpopular and lied about the appointment of Chris Pincher. Well, it was a combination of things, it’s just possible that less than a year ago he’d just let Paterson do his 30 days he’d still be here. But it wasn’t the cake.
Starmer is looking like an ultra safe bet to sensible middle Britain who would rather like to keep the keys to their own front doors.
Yes, anecdotally there are a huge amount of “I’ve voted Tory all my life but I’ll vote Labour because this lot are taking the piss now” voters around. Starmer doesn’t turn them off like Corbyn ever would have.
When push comes to shove, however… if it were looking this bad before the election, the Tories would 100% bin off Truss for someone with a vague chance of keeping things respectable.
Hopefully the party conference next week will calm things. However what is clear is the PM and Chancellor need to take decisive action to calm the markets to avoid more terrible polls like this
They could still pull themselves, the party & the country out of this hole. But honestly, I don’t think they even understand why there’s a problem: they will double down on trying to blame pesky remoaners / lefty investment bank bond traders / the EU for all the difficulties & keep plowing on making things worse.
Hopefully the party conference next week will calm things. However what is clear is the PM and Chancellor need to take decisive action to calm the markets to avoid more terrible polls like this
Calm the nerves? Are you kidding? Truss can't speak to anyone without sending gilt yields higher. Her and Kwarteng genuinely believe they are right and the rest of the world are wrong. Such sneering arrogance will make things worse, not better.
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But let it be May - just to see Bozo's face.....
So, if it was the Americans, we can be fairly sure Biden will let it drop during a speech about dental care or something.
After that amount of lefty bossy government we will all be so woke even @Leon will be wearing a skirt announcing they are non-binary and asking people to them Lilly. People will be asking why it is that England, as a region of the EU, gets so many regional assistance grants.
“Global Market Risk Is Building Like in August 2007, Summers Says”
“Crisis firefighters had better not book vacations, he says”
“Japan’s bond holdings need watching, ex-Treasury chief says”
https://archive.ph/TOYGE
I wonder how many MPs are going to find unavoidable constituency business next week to avoid attending...
Am glad to see sterling stable, stock market less so and reports of 40% of mortgage deals being pulled. That's horrendous for people.
You touch their homes and you're toast.
The scale of the YouGov lead is eye-watering. It may come down in due course, it may not. But I'm more convinced than ever that Labour will win an outright majority at the next election.
The Conservative membership only have themselves to blame, but they are wrecking people's lives in the process.
They will not be forgiven for this in a very, very, long time.
Anything else is pathetic.
Hope that only one candidate would stand? Hope that you could manoeuvre someone who would withdraw into second place? Change the rules?
There are proportionally as many many Conservative voters switching to Labour now as there were on 1st May 1997.
17% of Conservative 2019 voters are now telling us they intend to vote Labour. It was 16% in 1997.
https://twitter.com/PME_Politics/status/1575533250172571648
Best to be as far away as possible....
ICM: 5 September C39 L35 and 10 October C38 L38
Mori: 2 September C41 L44 and 19 September C39 L 43
Gallup: 7 September C43 L41 and 21 September C37 L42
NOP: 14 August C43 L39 and 18 September C39 L41
YouGov does tend to overreact to events, but blimey.
There will be wargaming of splits, i can see 'conversations' with Nigel
https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1575532876224864256
They (and we) are stuck with Ms Truss.
But it didn't save the Tories from a drubbing in 1997, five years after the ERM fiasco.
Of course, the government implemented a lot of very sensible measures then - in particular things that boosted the savings rate (ISAs, PEPs and the like) - and which led to the Current Account *almost* reaching zero in 1996.
We must put this country on a trajectory for long-term growth whilst maintaining fiscal discipline.
Cutting taxes will boost investment, creating jobs and opportunities for all.
That is what our Growth Plan will deliver.
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1575506759929982976
You are in this, as with 95% of things, completely and utterly wrong.
Other members of this forum, do take note.
Almost everyone else knew she was a walking disaster, unfit for the top job, although even we couldn't quite anticipate the magnitude of her ineptitude.
Just taken my mum for an MRI. It has big “turn off your mobile” signs.
Not being a dickhead, I obliged.
Just turned it back on and read this.
Bonkers!
The Con lead in over 65s is down to Con 43, Lab 35, LD 6, SNP 5.
In Leave voters: Con 39, Lab 39.
In the Midlands, which has been the most resilient bit of the Red Wall for them: Con 23, Lab 53.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGSSe1voBz0
https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBell4NUL/status/1575532811775139841
2 Dec 1996: Lab 59%, Con 22%. Not sure how that turned out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_1997_United_Kingdom_general_election#1996
"This is voters' first impression of Truss. It's like a new boss has taken over your firm and pissed in the water cooler at an all-staff meeting. You're never going to recover from that."
https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1575530857838055424
More likely, though, not picking Rishi was it.
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1575525739675340802
What has changed that means a 13th year of low Corporation Tax will result in companies investing to increase Productivity....
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/1575535106252734464
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1575526882853810192
And on what possible basis could she stand down anyway? An invented 'illness' maybe?
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1575535640078389268
Surely just an artefact of Scottish calculation.
They'd be gone too.
0 MPs would complete the Tories' conversion into a Farage party.
Im talking new entrant to the market.
Not saying it will happen but bet your life its being considered. Look at the vote totals for populists in oarts of tge Red Wall, then look at tje Tories in same losing 67% of their support.
There are moments for 'something new'. This could be one. It likely won't be, but there is scope
That would be a terrible result for Britain. You might as well make the place a one party state.
When push comes to shove, however… if it were looking this bad before the election, the Tories would 100% bin off Truss for someone with a vague chance of keeping things respectable.
So, I would vote Labour in JRM or John Redwood's seat but Tory in Jeremy Hunt or Damien Hinds seat.
https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/1575535978952925186