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  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190

    being a bit bitchy but Tony Blair has definitely overtaken Gordon Brown in age - coming up on John Major too!

    The long hair doesn’t work.
    He needs that for his David Icke lookylikey job.
  • being even more bitchy , it was a horrific shock to see Bear Grylls with a moustache- shave it off !
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    I’ve cried at least twice today
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    TOPPING said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Some on them flown in from Iraq last week.
    Wow. Didn't even know we still had guys over there.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    HYUFD said:

    Omnium said:

    Did the ABoC just come out as a Socialist? - 'Those who cling to power and privileges are long forgotten.'

    So the Church of England is no longer the Conservative Party at prayer?
    The C of E congregation largely still are, the C of E clergy though are largely LD or Starmer Labour with a few notable exceptions like high Tory Reverend Marcus Walker
    It was a poor joke relating to the distant past HY.
  • So did we piss anyone or any country off then with funeral placement ? I cannot imagine Biden or the US being pleased with the 14th row behind the President of Poland for instance
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    edited September 2022

    SeanT said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Do we know it was the same guys all the way through?

    Whoever it was: chapeau
    I'm sure it was. Same young blond chap front left corner. None looked older than 25.
    Yeah he reminded me of Rob Beckett a bit
    I tried to count the stripes they had. 2 I think had 3 (sergeant?), 1 had 2 (corporal?) And I think 5 had none so I'm guessing they were Privates.
    Three chevrons is the equivalent of a corporal (called a Lance-Sergeant), two is the equivalent of a lance-corporal but the Foot Guards don't have lance-corporals so they are called corporals.

    All clear?
  • Sympathies for OKC and squareroot2.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    Winners - Princess Charlotte whom we are all hugging, King Charles III, the pall bearers, the pipers
    Losers - Caitlin Moran
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824
    IshmaelZ said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
    And the result after her reign?
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    SeanT said:

    I’ve cried at least twice today

    I'm not surprised, what with getting "cathartised".
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    IshmaelZ said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
    Maybe this time we will follow through!
  • IshmaelZ said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
    Those people were right. Great Britain's been reinvented three or four times since then.

    The country has been completely transformed since then, repeatedly.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    RobD said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
    And the result after her reign?
    Mixed.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Do we know it was the same guys all the way through?

    Whoever it was: chapeau
    I'm sure it was. Same young blond chap front left corner. None looked older than 25.
    Yeah he reminded me of Rob Beckett a bit
    I tried to count the stripes they had. 2 I think had 3 (sergeant?), 1 had 2 (corporal?) And I think 5 had none so I'm guessing they were Privates.
    Three chevrons is the equivalent of a corporal (called a Lance-Sergeant), two is the equivalent of a lance-corporal but the Foot Guards don't have lance-corporals so they are called corporals.

    All clear?
    Thanks. Not really. But I love these idiosyncrasies. Never heard of a lance-sergeant. Were they all Foot Guards? Don't care. They were great. Who gets one chevron?
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    So did we piss anyone or any country off then with funeral placement ? I cannot imagine Biden or the US being pleased with the 14th row behind the President of Poland for instance

    Twat cancelled his date with kinky Liz T

    ALSO I love belonging to a country that puts the President of the USA in row 14.

    HAHAHAHAHA
  • TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Do we know it was the same guys all the way through?

    Whoever it was: chapeau
    I'm sure it was. Same young blond chap front left corner. None looked older than 25.
    Yeah he reminded me of Rob Beckett a bit
    I tried to count the stripes they had. 2 I think had 3 (sergeant?), 1 had 2 (corporal?) And I think 5 had none so I'm guessing they were Privates.
    Three chevrons is the equivalent of a corporal (called a Lance-Sergeant), two is the equivalent of a lance-corporal but the Foot Guards don't have lance-corporals so they are called corporals.

    All clear?
    Thanks. Not really. But I love these idiosyncrasies. Never heard of a lance-sergeant. Were they all Foot Guards? Don't care. They were great. Who gets one chevron?
    One chevrons are for Nike sponsored soldiers
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,994
    edited September 2022
    RobD said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    I feel the same way, a bit empty.
    Same.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,050
    edited September 2022

    IshmaelZ said:

    Feels rather empty now.

    A good thing, I think.
    Will hopefully encourage in time some re-thinking of what Britain is, can be, or should be.

    The reinvention of Great Britain
    Hate to harsh your mellow but as @OldKingCole was saying, people said that in 1953.
    Those people were right. Great Britain's been reinvented three or four times since then.

    The country has been completely transformed since then, repeatedly.
    But as Sunder Katwala pointed out yesterday, that may only have been possible because of the continuity of constitutional monarchy.

    He correctly quoted various researchers as saying one of the best defences against authoritarian populism is simutlaneously reassuring conservatives of certain continuities, while at the same time allowing many others the freedom to change in ways they want.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    SeanT said:

    So did we piss anyone or any country off then with funeral placement ? I cannot imagine Biden or the US being pleased with the 14th row behind the President of Poland for instance

    Twat cancelled his date with kinky Liz T

    ALSO I love belonging to a country that puts the President of the USA in row 14.

    HAHAHAHAHA
    He should have caught the bus, fuck him
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I don't shed tears Sean, although my late mother has come to mind several times today, and my dad.

    Roger Whittaker's The Last Farewell has been playing out in my head all day, and I can't say I like whistling. And Elton John's "Empty Garden".
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Enjoy. Nobody's alone with PB.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    edited September 2022

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I don't shed tears Sean, although my late mother has come to mind several times today, and my dad.

    Roger Whittaker's The Last Farewell has been playing out in my head all day, and I can't say I like whistling. And Elton John's "Empty Garden".
    Nimrod here. Instant tears.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Between the Queens best mate from primary school and the Niue ambassador.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    edited September 2022

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Do we know it was the same guys all the way through?

    Whoever it was: chapeau
    I'm sure it was. Same young blond chap front left corner. None looked older than 25.
    Yeah he reminded me of Rob Beckett a bit
    I tried to count the stripes they had. 2 I think had 3 (sergeant?), 1 had 2 (corporal?) And I think 5 had none so I'm guessing they were Privates.
    Three chevrons is the equivalent of a corporal (called a Lance-Sergeant), two is the equivalent of a lance-corporal but the Foot Guards don't have lance-corporals so they are called corporals.

    All clear?
    Thanks. Not really. But I love these idiosyncrasies. Never heard of a lance-sergeant. Were they all Foot Guards? Don't care. They were great. Who gets one chevron?
    Ha! It's a bit different in the Household Division (ie the Guards).

    The army has lance-corporal, corporal, and sergeant, with one, two, and three stripes (chevrons) respectively.

    The Household Division has corporal, lance -sergeant, and gold sergeant and the Guards don't have one chevron. Or lance-corporals.

    So an army lance-corporal is equivalent to a Foot Guards corporal and so on. They are the same rank, just called different things.

    There are plenty of funny/nice idiosyncrasies or regimental customs like that in the army which the army encourages as it promotes an esprit de corps. As John Keegan I think said: I didn't join the army, I joined the 10th Hussars.

    Today, the Bearer Party was found by The Queen's Company, Grenadier Guards, whose company commander is The Queen.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited September 2022
    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    🥂

    No sadness involved, merely correcting the record.

    ETA that emoji looks to me like chicken drumsticks with lacy white paper round the end.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,190
    edited September 2022
    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Do we know it was the same guys all the way through?

    Whoever it was: chapeau
    I'm sure it was. Same young blond chap front left corner. None looked older than 25.
    Yeah he reminded me of Rob Beckett a bit
    I tried to count the stripes they had. 2 I think had 3 (sergeant?), 1 had 2 (corporal?) And I think 5 had none so I'm guessing they were Privates.
    Three chevrons is the equivalent of a corporal (called a Lance-Sergeant), two is the equivalent of a lance-corporal but the Foot Guards don't have lance-corporals so they are called corporals.

    All clear?
    Thanks. Not really. But I love these idiosyncrasies. Never heard of a lance-sergeant. Were they all Foot Guards? Don't care. They were great. Who gets one chevron?
    Ha! It's a bit different in the Household Division (ie the Guards).

    The army has lance-corporal, corporal, and sergeant, with one, two, and three stripes (chevrons) respectively.

    The Household Division has corporal, lance -sergeant, and gold sergeant and the Guards don't have one chevron. Or lance-corporals.

    So an army lance-corporal is equivalent to a Foot Guards corporal and so on. They are the same rank, just called different things.

    There are plenty of funny/nice idiosyncrasies or regimental customs like that in the army which the army encourages as it promotes an esprit de corps. As John Keegan I think said: I didn't join the army, I joined the 10th Hussars.

    Today, the Bearer Party was found by The Queen's Company, Grenadier Guards, whose company commander is The Queen.
    Brilliant. Thank you.
  • SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,360

    My heroes of the day are the 8 pall bearers. I make it they had to do 5 separate transfers during the day. So much pressure and didn't put a foot wrong. Enjoy a beer tonight.

    Going up the chapel steps. Tricky, but done perfectly.
    Reminded me of this


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqCJlCp1jr0

  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    Ok, so playing “Nimrod” was a mistake

    😢
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    Ole row 14 Joe.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Welby disappointed today in comparison with the Dean of Windsor and the Herald who did the Royal titles bit. If I meet him ever I will riff on a joke of Byron's and greet him with "What a Cantuar!"
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    SeanT said:

    Ok, so playing “Nimrod” was a mistake

    😢

    Told you
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,958
    President Biden needs to get back quickly to help coordinate the recovery from Hurricane Fiona:
    "Puerto Rican Gov. Pedro Pierluisi said Monday that Hurricane Fiona has caused “catastrophic” destruction in urban areas, killing at least one person and leaving nearly the entire island archipelago without power.

    The slow-moving Category 1 storm could drop upward of 30 inches of rain, the National Hurricane Center said. Intense rain is flooding rivers, triggering landslides and destroying homes, roads and bridges. The governor estimated “billions” in damage and warned that rain is expected to continue falling until Tuesday evening."
    source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/19/hurricane-fiona-puerto-rico-live-updates/

    Most likely other deaths will be reported as the island recovers, but we can be thankful that this is, so far, orders of magnitude less deadly than Hurricane Maria, five years ago.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    I like that after a whole day's coverage of the funeral, the BBC continuity announcer said "And next the News".

    Now of course there is Ukraine and the price of gas, etc, but what do we think will be filling up 96% of the BBC News.
  • I think wrung out is how I'd describe myself today. I got overwhelmed by emotion twice and came bloody close on at least two other occasions.

    Pride, gratitude, sorrow, inspiration, sorrow again, astonishment, respect, a smile, a sense of awe, and then a deep intense sorrow. Maybe even horror. Then, a release. An emptiness. A look to the future on the drive home. A lament for the past. A lot of reflection.

    Unceasingly powerful.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    SeanT said:

    Ok, so playing “Nimrod” was a mistake

    😢

    Told you
    Bastard
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    Alphabetical order of non-Commonwealth? They can do it the other way round next time.
  • SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,200
    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    I think wrung out is how I'd describe myself today. I got overwhelmed by emotion twice and came bloody close on at least two other occasions.

    Pride, gratitude, sorrow, inspiration, sorrow again, astonishment, respect, a smile, a sense of awe, and then a deep intense sorrow. Maybe even horror. Then, a release. An emptiness. A look to the future on the drive home. A lament for the past. A lot of reflection.

    Unceasingly powerful.

    You are eloquent on this subject. It takes a royalist to express it, I guess

    Anyway: bravo

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Ok, so playing “Nimrod” was a mistake

    😢

    Told you
    Bastard
    Its one of the most amazing, emotional, soul grabbing pieces of music. It is home.
    Im sure it was once played at Anfield and they booed it
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824
    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    Alphabetical order of non-Commonwealth? They can do it the other way round next time.
    Probably by order of precedence, i.e. length of tenure.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,360

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Between the Queens best mate from primary school and the Niue ambassador.
    No-one ever out trumped HMQEII. She had two modes: as a person she was always among equals; as queen she was never outdone. Not by Trump, not by Boris, not by the IRA, not nobody. I think the only exception was the pope, whom she met as head of state and as humble equals before God.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824
    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Royals, governors generals/PMs of commonwealth realms, presidents/PMs of Commonwealth countries, then "others". Each subgroup ordered by precedence.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    algarkirk said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Between the Queens best mate from primary school and the Niue ambassador.
    No-one ever out trumped HMQEII. She had two modes: as a person she was always among equals; as queen she was never outdone. Not by Trump, not by Boris, not by the IRA, not nobody. I think the only exception was the pope, whom she met as head of state and as humble equals before God.

    And Biden needed to be taken down a peg or 14. GET ON THE BUS.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639
    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    Alphabetical order of non-Commonwealth? They can do it the other way round next time.
    Probably by order of precedence, i.e. length of tenure.
    That would make sense - clear and unarguable and above all predictable (though I wonder how they deal with second-term Presidents, esp. if there is a gap).
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    President Biden needs to get back quickly to help coordinate the recovery from Hurricane Fiona:
    "Puerto Rican Gov. Pedro Pierluisi said Monday that Hurricane Fiona has caused “catastrophic” destruction in urban areas, killing at least one person and leaving nearly the entire island archipelago without power.

    The slow-moving Category 1 storm could drop upward of 30 inches of rain, the National Hurricane Center said. Intense rain is flooding rivers, triggering landslides and destroying homes, roads and bridges. The governor estimated “billions” in damage and warned that rain is expected to continue falling until Tuesday evening."
    source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/19/hurricane-fiona-puerto-rico-live-updates/

    Most likely other deaths will be reported as the island recovers, but we can be thankful that this is, so far, orders of magnitude less deadly than Hurricane Maria, five years ago.

    Sounds bad but I was thinking isn't an F hurricane very late in September or am I just misremembering my ? Has it been a quiet season?
  • SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
    I am a total mess every time I watch Frozen. It is a very moving film. Although Toy Story 3 and Casablanca are probably the biggest tear fests for me.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .
    Exactly. he's done nothing to offend us afaik. Was v polite about HMQ.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    edited September 2022
    Headline on BBC Sport website: Queen lowered into Royal Vault ahead of private family burial.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,923

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Dynamo said:

    SeanT said:

    Dunno who is on ITV but they are far better than BBC

    “Hope is the alchemy that turns a life around”

    Superb line. Just thrown out there

    Christ..
    It has all the poetry of a Barry Manilow song.
    HYUFD said:

    My brother believes Australia will be “on the road to republicanism” by the time of the next Australian election.

    After that NZ will follow.

    William and Kate need an extended period in the South Pacific.

    Actually 60% of Australians want to keep the monarchy in a new poll taken after the Queen's death and as Charles III became King.

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/a-resounding-majority-of-australians-want-to-retain-the-monarchy-rather-than-become-a-republic

    NZ is culturally even closer to us than Australia
    Jacinda has a tough fight at the next GE so unlikely to want to open that can of worms
    And her opponent Christopher Luxon is a strong monarchist
    If Australia “goes”, then it will be almost impossible for NZ to escape that gravity.

    Not necessarily, NZ likes defining itself against Australia, see also Canada defining itself against the US having kept the monarchy for centuries after the US became a republic
    The NZ does not define itself “against” Australia in the way you think it does.

    You know nothing of the subject.
    Last time I mistook a New Zealander for an Australian in London, I got a death stare before quickly being told in very strong terms they were actually a Kiwi
    Possibly because you were rude and assumed where somebody was from, rather than asking them?
    No, New Zealanders are generally not as wealthy as Australians but they still consider themselves intellectually and culturally superior and not as money focused. See also Canadians and Americans
    New Zealand got a lot poorer when we joined the EU. Hopefully some of that business can find its way back to NZ now.
    NZ has done very well thanks over the past twenty years and is likely to overtake the UK in average living standards this decade.
    Indeed Luckyguy1983 has it backwards, since the UK joined the EU it was the UK that struggled economically, not other English speaking nations. Every other English speaking developed nation has grown faster than the UK since 1993, not slower.

    Australia was much poorer than the UK per capita at the start of the 90s, now it is much, much richer poor capita. NZ was much, much poorer than the UK per capita then, but now its about the same.

    Hopefully now that we're out of the EU, we can start to recover and grow like non-EU English speaking nations like NZ and Australia etc have.
    I know we've had this argument a gazillion times, but the UK's economy doesn't look anything like Australia or New Zealand.

    57% of Australia's exports are of raw materials.

    For the UK, it's 8%.

    Australia has massively benefitted from having enormous quantities of cheaply extractable raw materials, at exactly the time that China (which happens to be very close) has needed them.
    Three thousand miles is hardly 'very close.'
    Well: for a start most of Australia's raw material exports aren't coming from Sydney.

    Natural gas and oil comes from the Northwest Shelf, while Coal comes from Queensland.

    Secondly: a massive mine near the coast is in a fantastic position to export to China.

    If you have coal in Queensland, where do you think the nearest large markets for coal are?

    Likewise, if you are in Guangzhou, where do you think the easiest place to buy coal from is?

    South Africa is a lot further. Ditton Colombia.
    I was measuring from Darwin to Nanning. From Sydney it would be a lot further.

    And yes, I take your point that it's closer than any other major market/resource combination for the two, but that doesn't make it close. It's the difference between saying 'Yeltsin was a good President' and 'Yeltsin is a better president than Putin.'
    The point is that it is the closest.
    It is one of Barty’s little conceits that geography doesn’t matter when it comes to trade.
    It used to matter a lot, lot more.

    It doesn't matter anywhere near as much nowadays as other issues do - including yes of course what competitive advantages you have (like resources).

    Making the most of your advantages, globally, improves trade more than obsessing over geography.
    Doesn't it depend on what you're selling?

    If it's fresh bread, then proximity is very important, because it requires physical transportation, has low value to volume, and spoils easily.

    If it's something entirely digital, then proximity is irrelevant, because it can be delivered to pretty much anywhere on earth, instantaneously, and at zero additional cost.

    And other goods come in between, with the key issues being how much shipping is of the total cost of the product, and whether (and how quickly) a product depreciates.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Lot of rows between 6 and 14.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    SeanT said:

    I think wrung out is how I'd describe myself today. I got overwhelmed by emotion twice and came bloody close on at least two other occasions.

    Pride, gratitude, sorrow, inspiration, sorrow again, astonishment, respect, a smile, a sense of awe, and then a deep intense sorrow. Maybe even horror. Then, a release. An emptiness. A look to the future on the drive home. A lament for the past. A lot of reflection.

    Unceasingly powerful.

    You are eloquent on this subject. It takes a royalist to express it, I guess

    Anyway: bravo

    You don't feel it? Perhaps like an atheist trying to describe the religious experience.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720
    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Open Cava, stir in 1tsp marmite (easiest to pre-mix), 1tsp honey and about 20ml fino or manzanilla sherry, and pour out a decent aged house champagne.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .

    Who gives a fuck. Our queen. Our funeral

    Australia and Canada and all the other realms were and are way more important. On this occasion

    If we were just honouring geopolitical power then we’d have Xi, Putin and Erdogan in row 1

    🤮
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,412

    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Lot of rows between 6 and 14.
    Maybe it was done alphabetically - I can’t be arsed to see/work out who was between them but France being 6 and USA being 14 would probably make some sort of sense.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    edited September 2022
    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
    I just don't get on with non-champagne bubbles remember when everyone was going crazy about Cremant de this, that and the other.

    Although I do like (but obviously can't afford) Nyetimber.

    Edit: forsaken for a Highland Pony I'd break out the Crystal.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720
    TimS said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Open Cava, stir in 1tsp marmite (easiest to pre-mix), 1tsp honey and about 20ml fino or manzanilla sherry, and pour out a decent aged house champagne.
    Also any red wine above 14% abv: decant and add water to dilute to 13%. Opens it up. Doesn’t work with white.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    Carnyx said:
    Oh come on man, if those two arent fucking then fucking is over. Its done. No more. Game over. They've blue ballsed us all
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,708
    edited September 2022
    For the first time in what feels like ages* I have put a jumper on at home. Can certainly feel the temperature starting to drop. I was determined to get to October without putting the gas on. Not sure I'll make it now.

    *Probably about 3 months.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
    I just don't get on with non-champagne bubbles remember when everyone was going crazy about Cremant de this, that and the other.

    Although I do like (but obviously can't afford) Nyetimber.
    Cremant is disgusting. It makes me doubt all champagne sometimes

    I started the day with Nyetimber rose and the Fortnum’s Roederer is definitely a step down

    The English are now making arguably the best sparkling wine in the world

  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    boulay said:

    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Lot of rows between 6 and 14.
    Maybe it was done alphabetically - I can’t be arsed to see/work out who was between them but France being 6 and USA being 14 would probably make some sort of sense.
    So if he'd registered as America....
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    TimS said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Open Cava, stir in 1tsp marmite (easiest to pre-mix), 1tsp honey and about 20ml fino or manzanilla sherry, and pour out a decent aged house champagne.
    VERY interesting. I read about the fino sherry trick in another context the other day - to uprate claret was it?

    My latest wheeze: after you have steeped your sloe gin for a couple of months and strained it off, fill up with sherry and leave for a couple of weeks, then put in hunting flask. Not done this yet but seems worth a try.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,720
    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
    I just don't get on with non-champagne bubbles remember when everyone was going crazy about Cremant de this, that and the other.

    Although I do like (but obviously can't afford) Nyetimber.

    Edit: forsaken for a Highland Pony I'd break out the Crystal.
    Morrisons “extra special” own label English Sparkling is actually 2010 Nyetimber and was only about £24 last time I looked.
  • boulay said:

    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Lot of rows between 6 and 14.
    Maybe it was done alphabetically - I can’t be arsed to see/work out who was between them but France being 6 and USA being 14 would probably make some sort of sense.
    It maybe was but still not good politics , sometimes people just need to think a bit about these things
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,480
    edited September 2022
    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    To be honest it sounds a bit too much of a snub. Should have held a couple of seats for them. The organisers knew he was coming in his own vehicle.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,824
    edited September 2022

    boulay said:

    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Lot of rows between 6 and 14.
    Maybe it was done alphabetically - I can’t be arsed to see/work out who was between them but France being 6 and USA being 14 would probably make some sort of sense.
    It maybe was but still not good politics , sometimes people just need to think a bit about these things
    There's a very strict set of guidelines in terms of precedence for these things, so that those organising these things don't have to make up stuff on the spot. For heads of state the order is based on how long they have been in office.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,271
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .

    Who gives a fuck. Our queen. Our funeral

    Australia and Canada and all the other realms were and are way more important. On this occasion

    If we were just honouring geopolitical power then we’d have Xi, Putin and Erdogan in row 1

    🤮
    Indeed and it was the US who decided to become independent and a republic centuries ago. The Queen was held in particular affection in France, spoke fluent French and Macron paid great tribute to her.

    Tributes to the Queen aside Biden is hardly a fan of the current Truss led UK anyway, though he might get on better with Starmer
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    For the first time in what feels like ages* I have put a jumper on at home. Can certainly feel the temperature starting to drop. I was determined to get to October without putting the gas on. Not sure I'll make it now.

    *Probably about 3 months.

    Why did you have a jumper on in June?
  • eekeek Posts: 28,077
    rcs1000 said:

    nico679 said:

    Apparently the protocol was royals from other countries take precedence but Macron was seated row 6 , still ahead of Biden.

    Macron self identifies as a Royal.
    Biden insisted on arriving in a car - Macron walked in...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,753
    TimS said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
    I just don't get on with non-champagne bubbles remember when everyone was going crazy about Cremant de this, that and the other.

    Although I do like (but obviously can't afford) Nyetimber.

    Edit: forsaken for a Highland Pony I'd break out the Crystal.
    Morrisons “extra special” own label English Sparkling is actually 2010 Nyetimber and was only about £24 last time I looked.
    That is very useful intelligence.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357
    Paddington 2 the perfect way to end the day....
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
    I am a total mess every time I watch Frozen. It is a very moving film. Although Toy Story 3 and Casablanca are probably the biggest tear fests for me.
    Now I need to try and remember if it was Paddington or Paddington 2 that made me very.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,480
    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    On the other hand they have brought back their heated clothing airer, saves a fortune compared to tumble dryers.

    Changing times...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639
    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .

    Who gives a fuck. Our queen. Our funeral

    Australia and Canada and all the other realms were and are way more important. On this occasion

    If we were just honouring geopolitical power then we’d have Xi, Putin and Erdogan in row 1

    🤮
    Indeed and it was the US who decided to become independent and a republic centuries ago. The Queen was held in particular affection in France, spoke fluent French and Macron paid great tribute to her.

    Tributes to the Queen aside Biden is hardly a fan of the current Truss led UK anyway, though he might get on better with Starmer
    The French do get precedence in the "countries once invaded by England etc" stakes.
  • SeanTSeanT Posts: 549
    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .

    Who gives a fuck. Our queen. Our funeral

    Australia and Canada and all the other realms were and are way more important. On this occasion

    If we were just honouring geopolitical power then we’d have Xi, Putin and Erdogan in row 1

    🤮
    Indeed and it was the US who decided to become independent and a republic centuries ago. The Queen was held in particular affection in France, spoke fluent French and Macron paid great tribute to her.

    Tributes to the Queen aside Biden is hardly a fan of the current Truss led UK anyway, though he might get on better with Starmer
    Yep. Hopefully Trump will win in 2024

    And Meloni in Italy. Then they can all sit in the front row with orban and the new Swedish government for the coronation
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
    I am a total mess every time I watch Frozen. It is a very moving film. Although Toy Story 3 and Casablanca are probably the biggest tear fests for me.
    Now I need to try and remember if it was Paddington or Paddington 2 that made me very.
    Cry. Edit function AWOL.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,639
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Picture of Biden in row 14

    Macron squirrelled away in row 6. Good work


    Trump would have muscled into the front row between King Charles and Queen Camilla.

    The New York Post (which is an awful Murdoch? scandal sheet) are right, it is a massive snub. Give us out trade deal baldy!
    Somewhere else I read it was because he refused to take the bus like other ordinary president-citizens, n'est-ce-pas ?
    I can understand he might be behind commonwealth heads of state. Not sure why behind Poland.
    yes , these things should not matter but of course they do , own goal really to piss of the USA needlessly .

    Who gives a fuck. Our queen. Our funeral

    Australia and Canada and all the other realms were and are way more important. On this occasion

    If we were just honouring geopolitical power then we’d have Xi, Putin and Erdogan in row 1

    🤮
    Indeed and it was the US who decided to become independent and a republic centuries ago. The Queen was held in particular affection in France, spoke fluent French and Macron paid great tribute to her.

    Tributes to the Queen aside Biden is hardly a fan of the current Truss led UK anyway, though he might get on better with Starmer
    Yep. Hopefully Trump will win in 2024

    And Meloni in Italy. Then they can all sit in the front row with orban and the new Swedish government for the coronation
    KCIII won't be crowned till after mid-January 2025? Huge if true.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    TimS said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I have inadvertently misled the house. After giving it large about vintage Mailly from BBR I was expecting someone to come round and drink with me. Now not happening, and rather than drink that on my own I have defaulted to Tescos cava. Which at under £6 a bottle and quite often 25% off 6 is the biggest bargain in the country.

    Cheer up. We’re drinking with you

    🥂
    Yeah but not Tesco's cava. Jeez.
    Hey fck off, I bet you it would knock spots off Aldi "Champagne" in a blind tasting.
    Very sadly Aldi have discontinued their world (and definitely Tesco's cava-) beating Monsigny champagne. So we will never know (I know).
    Cava is ugely underrated stuff, why people pay lots more for carbonated prosecco is a mystery (cava is methode champenoise). I drink enough good champagne to not bother with the cheapies.

    And anyway my gf who was coming round to drink the good stuff used to groom for, produce and show HMQ Highland ponies for her. So there.
    I just don't get on with non-champagne bubbles remember when everyone was going crazy about Cremant de this, that and the other.

    Although I do like (but obviously can't afford) Nyetimber.

    Edit: forsaken for a Highland Pony I'd break out the Crystal.
    Morrisons “extra special” own label English Sparkling is actually 2010 Nyetimber and was only about £24 last time I looked.
    OMG and only 20 a bottle if you buy three of them

    TY for that.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,357

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
    I am a total mess every time I watch Frozen. It is a very moving film. Although Toy Story 3 and Casablanca are probably the biggest tear fests for me.
    Now I need to try and remember if it was Paddington or Paddington 2 that made me very.
    Cry. Edit function AWOL.
    Probably both. But heart of stone if you don't blub at the end of 2.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,958
    paulyork64 asked: "Sounds bad but I was thinking isn't an F hurricane very late in September or am I just misremembering my ? Has it been a quiet season?"

    Category 1 is the weakest and -- so far -- it has been a very quiet season. But the immense amounts of rainfall in a short period, as happened with Fiona in Puerto Rico, can do terrible damage, even if the winds are -- for a hurricane -- not all that strong.

    Right now it is hitting the Domincan Republic, and is, the forecasters say, headed for Newfoundland, by Saturday morning.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,412

    Paddington 2 the perfect way to end the day....

    They should collect up the Paddington toys left for the Queen and send them to kids in Ukraine - Zelensky did the Ukraine dubbing for Paddington so would be a nice touch.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I am cathartised

    I am sure a nice young nurse can help you out with that. Though it does sound painful.
    If you haven’t blubbed yet, I suggest reviewing the day’s events, then listen to this


    https://youtu.be/YxUlboN70GI
    I cried. But then I cried at Frozen and Tinkerbell: Secret of the Wings so I'm just a wuss.
    I am a total mess every time I watch Frozen. It is a very moving film. Although Toy Story 3 and Casablanca are probably the biggest tear fests for me.
    Now I need to try and remember if it was Paddington or Paddington 2 that made me very.
    Cry. Edit function AWOL.
    If on a phone just select Show desktop version, then you can edit.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,177

    For the first time in what feels like ages* I have put a jumper on at home. Can certainly feel the temperature starting to drop. I was determined to get to October without putting the gas on. Not sure I'll make it now.

    *Probably about 3 months.

    Oddly enough, although I love knitting jumpers, I don’t wear them that much. Don’t tend to feel the cold much.
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