I thought the universities only awarded 1sts and the occasional 2.1 these days?
Just lie about it anyway. No one ever checks.
Not one in my entire knapping career has anyone ever asked what grade of degree I got (a 2:2 as it happens). Indeed I'm not sure I've ever been asked, that much, if I even have a degree
This has been useful, as about a term into my degree I decided that I didn't care what degree I got, so I did zero work (hence the 2:2)
Yes but you are a journalist and author where it doesn't matter so much as long as you can write creatively.
Most top law firms, banks and accountancy firms (though not now PWC) require a 2.1 minimum to get an interview
I thought the universities only awarded 1sts and the occasional 2.1 these days?
Just lie about it anyway. No one ever checks.
Not one in my entire knapping career has anyone ever asked what grade of degree I got (a 2:2 as it happens). Indeed I'm not sure I've ever been asked, that much, if I even have a degree
This has been useful, as about a term into my degree I decided that I didn't care what degree I got, so I did zero work (hence the 2:2)
Yes but you are a journalist and author where it doesn't matter so much as long as you can write creatively.
Most top law firms, banks and accountancy firms (though not now PWC) require a 2.1 minimum to get an interview
Can Liz Truss provide evidence to back her suggestion there is "woke" culture in the civil service that "strays into antisemitism"? We asked @BrandonLewis 👇👇 #KayBurley wx
This was a fucking disgraceful allegation from Truss - and shows she is continuity Johnson. She is a liar.
There's definitely Woke culture in public infrastructure projects.
My client is holding a "power games" in Regent's Park on Wednesday evening hosted by the Unite for Race Equality network.
Have a guess as to how they'll play that.
Provide evidence there is widespread anti-Semitism in the Civil Service, she used the Jewish Community to further her political agenda.
Anti-Semitism is something we all take seriously when it is founded. Instead she made the allegation then immediately ran away.
She is an absolute disgrace - and this has made it clear for me. I will never vote Tory whilst anyone associated with her is in a position of power.
They are going to hold "egg and spoon" races, and other fun outdoor classics, but ensure that one's starting position in these races is handicapped depending on what "group" you are in - because there must always be an identity politics lesson to be imbibed. Never just neutral fun teambuilding.
For clarity, that means that a white male I would have to start behind others in the race - probably at the back - and that's the intersectionality lecture delivered.
That is Wokery and it goes on *all the time*.
At some point this is going to directly collide with my career ambitions, as I personally cannot abide it but, for now, I will have a "prior engagement" that unfortunately cannot get out of.
Is that really what they do?!
Jesus f Christ
Is this private or public sector?
The thought of Casino having to start behind in an egg & spoon race in Regents Park because he's white - this is surely an uncalled for humiliation to rank right alongside those caused by the structural racism it is meant to highlight!
@Casino_Royale should just tell them he self-identifies as Indian due to Indian ancestry. What are these fuckers going to do then? Give him a genetic test? Check to see if he wobbles his head? Race is a social construct so it has no reality anyway, as the same Woke cranks keep telling us
This is the surreal yet inevitable endpoint of Wokeness. Everyone will self identify as African and gay so they can be first in the company egg and spoon race
Yada yada.
The relationship between you and this topic - structural racism - is an odd one indeed. It's a widely acknowledged complex problem but rather than take a pass on it - as posters do all the time on things which either don’t interest them or they can’t get their heads around – what happens is you get angry at the mere mention of it, lashing out at those who take it seriously, risibly making out that to talk about White Privilege is some mortal threat to civilisation, or in lighter vein (which isn’t actually that light) erupting into spasms of “oh god what do we call them this week then?” jocularity, seeking to trivialize the whole thing.
The term White Fragility is one I realize irritates but tough titty because it also nails a certain specific mindset and set of attitudes and we have living proof of its acuity right here.
So structural racism is a real problem, but straying into antisemitism is a vile lie?
Jews don't count.
Return to sender. Poster who said "accusations of antisemitism are always a vile lie" unknown.
Meanwhile you're banging on about "Fragility" and "structural" racism.
Who is the "Fragile" one really, when comments as mild as Trusses about "straying into" racism attract such vitriol?
Racism is Structural against every race apart from Jews it seems?
Which is it, is structural racism real including against Jews, or is racism real but uniquely Jews don't count?
Now mr @moonshine - see this here IS a "word salad".
Genuinely hard to extract any sense from it but for the record and please save this tweet:
Racism - 'structural' or otherwise - exists and it includes antisemitism and it's a bad thing.
So we're getting somewhere. Structural racism, including antisemitism exists - that is now your opinion.
In which case, surely what Truss said was eminently reasonable that antisemitism needs tackling [just as any other racism does too] and so can you acknowledge the logical end point of your train of thought and criticise the "Fragility" of those opposing what Truss said?
You still appear to be ignoring what Truss said. Your position rests on pretending Truss said something she didn’t. She made a specific claim that “woke” civil service culture “strays into antisemitism”.
In the same speech, she characterised Jewish culture in ways that some feel were stereotyping.
Absolutely and "woke" civil service culture does indeed stray into antisemitism, just as almost any "woke" rally of any kind will inevitably have antisemitic placards being waved too. She was entirely correct in everything she wrote, and the Fragile individuals who feel threatened at institutional racism being called out should get over their own Fragility.
Have I got that right, Kinabalu?
I can't separate your attempt at humour from the point you are making. Do you have any evidence of "woke civil service culture" straying into antisemitism?
There's three examples so far been given in this thread, its up to others to argue how credible they find these complaints or not, but in general supposedly complaints about racism are supposed to be taken at the utmost level of seriousness and not be dismissed out of hand as "lies" by those who are offended by the allegations.
1. Foreign Office antisemitism that had to be pushed back against (example given by Brandon Lewis in the clip earlier). 2. Attempts to ban Kosher food from sale in NI (example given by Brandon Lewis in the clip earlier). 3. 'BDS' policies where they are instituted (example given by Truss herself).
3 examples. Now are you so confident that none of those examples ever strays into antisemitism, in any circumstances, or do you think that it is perhaps possible that sometimes it strays into antisemitism?
Are those examples of "woke civil service culture" straying into antisemitism? To establish that, you need to show that they are or began as "wokeism" and that they stray into antisemitism.
Seems from that own source that Lewis was entirely accurate in saying that it was causing issues for Kosher food and that any attempts to call it "misleading" is a matter of perspective. So yes, Kosher food was an issue, as your own source acknowledges, and I wonder if perhaps a less antisemitic culture had been in place that this issue would have been taken with more seriousness sooner?
Lewis does not make the claim that an antisemitic culture in the civil service was delaying a solution being found. Do you have any evidence that that is the case? Come on, Bart, you're normally a serious poster who is willing to engage in issues, and not just spout silly rhetoric.
Nobody said that there is an antisemitic culture, they said a culture that sometimes strays into antisemitism and sometimes is too much.
Under the principles of "institutional racism" if Jews are being institutionally discriminated against then that is institutional racism. Antisemitism. If elements of Civil Service culture were straying into preventing solutions to the institutional racism being found, perhaps because they're not considering concerns being raised by Jews as a priority then that is an issue.
This shouldn't need explaining any more than it should need explaining that the Met sometimes has issues it needs to face, or any other institution can. The notion that there is sometimes antisemitism in the Civil Service and that needs tackling when it happens, shouldn't be as shocking or objected to as the notion there is sometimes other forms of racism too.
This is just 'Jews don't count', once more. Had black/gay/Muslim/any other been said instead of Jews many of the same people ferociously objecting would be nodding along sagely.
Antisemitism and institutional racism are very important topics. We should take them seriously.
Brandon Lewis, when talking about the availability of certain kosher foods in Northern Ireland, made no claim that the UK civil service were being antisemitic or institutionally racist. If institutional antisemitism/racism in the civil service were at play here, that would certainly be, as you put it, "an issue". However, no-one has made that claim. Are you making that claim? If you are making that claim, do you have evidence to support that claim?
Truss said there is a "woke civil service culture" that strays into antisemitism. Part of Lewis's and your defence of this claim is around the impact of this government's Brexit deal on certain kosher foods in NI, but even Lewis doesn't blame that on the civil service. Ergo, this clearly fails as evidence for Truss's claim on its own terms.
There is sometimes antisemitism in the civil service and that needs tackling when it happens. Had Truss said that, her comments would have been more positively received. That is not what she said. You can speculate as well as I can whether this is an example of Truss's carelessness when speaking (Rostov all over again) or her strongly held belief.
Boston Children’s Hospital seems to be the US version of the Tavistock clinic. Their marketing videos talk about "gender affirming hysterectomies" and say that a child playing with the opposite gender's toys is a sign of being trans.
I think everyone should post in the style of Leon for the rest of the day. I'm sure it's harder than it looks - a line I imagine Leon will have heard before.
That is BOLLOCKS.
Short sentences. Some CAPITALS. Short paragraphs.
You think it's hard because your woke-infested brain is too busy thinking up new ways to destroy western society that you can no longer perform the simplest of tasks. Rather than doing something worthwhile like copying me, you spend your day wanking over your latest left-wing obsession, like a laboratory rat who's discovered the pleasure lever.
Can Liz Truss provide evidence to back her suggestion there is "woke" culture in the civil service that "strays into antisemitism"? We asked @BrandonLewis 👇👇 #KayBurley wx
This was a fucking disgraceful allegation from Truss - and shows she is continuity Johnson. She is a liar.
There's definitely Woke culture in public infrastructure projects.
My client is holding a "power games" in Regent's Park on Wednesday evening hosted by the Unite for Race Equality network.
Have a guess as to how they'll play that.
Provide evidence there is widespread anti-Semitism in the Civil Service, she used the Jewish Community to further her political agenda.
Anti-Semitism is something we all take seriously when it is founded. Instead she made the allegation then immediately ran away.
She is an absolute disgrace - and this has made it clear for me. I will never vote Tory whilst anyone associated with her is in a position of power.
They are going to hold "egg and spoon" races, and other fun outdoor classics, but ensure that one's starting position in these races is handicapped depending on what "group" you are in - because there must always be an identity politics lesson to be imbibed. Never just neutral fun teambuilding.
For clarity, that means that a white male I would have to start behind others in the race - probably at the back - and that's the intersectionality lecture delivered.
That is Wokery and it goes on *all the time*.
At some point this is going to directly collide with my career ambitions, as I personally cannot abide it but, for now, I will have a "prior engagement" that unfortunately cannot get out of.
Is that really what they do?!
Jesus f Christ
Is this private or public sector?
The thought of Casino having to start behind in an egg & spoon race in Regents Park because he's white - this is surely an uncalled for humiliation to rank right alongside those caused by the structural racism it is meant to highlight!
@Casino_Royale should just tell them he self-identifies as Indian due to Indian ancestry. What are these fuckers going to do then? Give him a genetic test? Check to see if he wobbles his head? Race is a social construct so it has no reality anyway, as the same Woke cranks keep telling us
This is the surreal yet inevitable endpoint of Wokeness. Everyone will self identify as African and gay so they can be first in the company egg and spoon race
Yada yada.
The relationship between you and this topic - structural racism - is an odd one indeed. It's a widely acknowledged complex problem but rather than take a pass on it - as posters do all the time on things which either don’t interest them or they can’t get their heads around – what happens is you get angry at the mere mention of it, lashing out at those who take it seriously, risibly making out that to talk about White Privilege is some mortal threat to civilisation, or in lighter vein (which isn’t actually that light) erupting into spasms of “oh god what do we call them this week then?” jocularity, seeking to trivialize the whole thing.
The term White Fragility is one I realize irritates but tough titty because it also nails a certain specific mindset and set of attitudes and we have living proof of its acuity right here.
So structural racism is a real problem, but straying into antisemitism is a vile lie?
Jews don't count.
Return to sender. Poster who said "accusations of antisemitism are always a vile lie" unknown.
Meanwhile you're banging on about "Fragility" and "structural" racism.
Who is the "Fragile" one really, when comments as mild as Trusses about "straying into" racism attract such vitriol?
Racism is Structural against every race apart from Jews it seems?
Which is it, is structural racism real including against Jews, or is racism real but uniquely Jews don't count?
Now mr @moonshine - see this here IS a "word salad".
Genuinely hard to extract any sense from it but for the record and please save this tweet:
Racism - 'structural' or otherwise - exists and it includes antisemitism and it's a bad thing.
So we're getting somewhere. Structural racism, including antisemitism exists - that is now your opinion.
In which case, surely what Truss said was eminently reasonable that antisemitism needs tackling [just as any other racism does too] and so can you acknowledge the logical end point of your train of thought and criticise the "Fragility" of those opposing what Truss said?
You still appear to be ignoring what Truss said. Your position rests on pretending Truss said something she didn’t. She made a specific claim that “woke” civil service culture “strays into antisemitism”.
In the same speech, she characterised Jewish culture in ways that some feel were stereotyping.
Absolutely and "woke" civil service culture does indeed stray into antisemitism, just as almost any "woke" rally of any kind will inevitably have antisemitic placards being waved too. She was entirely correct in everything she wrote, and the Fragile individuals who feel threatened at institutional racism being called out should get over their own Fragility.
Have I got that right, Kinabalu?
You really are banging on in a frightfully dim and reductive fashion.
I really do think that children can have an appreciation of the racist legacy of western colonialism - inc the notion of white privilege - without becoming so crippled with personal guilt that they can't tie their own shoelaces.
They shouldn't feel or be taught any personal guilt whatsoever. The sins of the fathers or, in this case, the multiple great-grandfathers, are not visited on the sons. This was the whole basis of Christian anti-semitism. It was wrong when applied to Jews. It is wrong when applied to people now who have no responsibility whatsoever for what people in previous centuries did or did not do.
They shouldn't feel a disabling or in any way enfeebling sense of personal guilt, no. And I don't think the remote chance that they might is sufficient reason to shy away from difficult topics.
From here, please can we just ignore the poster called Leon and we'll all be much happier. Stop quoting him and stop responding to him, he'll get bored.
No.
We won't all be much happier. You will.
And making you happy isn't worth the loss of lunch pictures from around the globe.
Soz n that.
Can't you just sign up to lunchpicturesfromaroundtheglobe.com as well? That way everyone's happy.
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Most top law firms, banks and accountancy firms (though not now PWC) require a 2.1 minimum to get an interview
Brandon Lewis, when talking about the availability of certain kosher foods in Northern Ireland, made no claim that the UK civil service were being antisemitic or institutionally racist. If institutional antisemitism/racism in the civil service were at play here, that would certainly be, as you put it, "an issue". However, no-one has made that claim. Are you making that claim? If you are making that claim, do you have evidence to support that claim?
Truss said there is a "woke civil service culture" that strays into antisemitism. Part of Lewis's and your defence of this claim is around the impact of this government's Brexit deal on certain kosher foods in NI, but even Lewis doesn't blame that on the civil service. Ergo, this clearly fails as evidence for Truss's claim on its own terms.
There is sometimes antisemitism in the civil service and that needs tackling when it happens. Had Truss said that, her comments would have been more positively received. That is not what she said. You can speculate as well as I can whether this is an example of Truss's carelessness when speaking (Rostov all over again) or her strongly held belief.
Figure 1. Expected inflation by income quintile in October 2022
Figure 2. Changes in real take-home income, this year (2022/23) compared to last
Is it a bit of self caricature? Hats off if so.
Once you see it...