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The Clash: London calling for Corbyn? – politicalbetting.com
Cracking scoop by @journoamrogers – Jeremy Corbyn is being urged by allies to run for London mayor in 2024.https://t.co/8dQMOh6e7b
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Why not even try to appeal to the 48%?
IMHO I think he might stand as an MP again and get into KS's cabinet.
Just as it was in 2015 when all this happened pre-Referendum.
2005 - Because Brexit?
1988 - Because Brexit?
You say "the French" but it isn't up to them. The EU require it.
1.53 Liz Truss 65%
2.92 Rishi Sunak 34%
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1.52 Liz Truss 66%
2.92 Rishi Sunak 34%
I'm in favour of the French having enough staff to man their border checks. Just as other nations manage all over the planet.
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The French aren't manning their border posts. What did you expect to happen when the French don't man their border posts? Has f**k all to do with Brexit.
If the French don't want tourists, the public should react accordingly.
Border queues are entirely normal all over the planet. As anyone trying to get into the US or Heathrow is well aware.
Have enough staff to do the stamps then.
The Frogs have always caused queues, nothing new. Let them deal with it, I couldn't care less.
Don't travel to France if you don't like it.
As there is nowhere to park lines of coaches at Dover, that means a big queue. Every single time. Not every time there is a strike or boats break down. You post photos of those saying "is this Brexit" which demonstrates to all of us that you are a daft sod. We know - and YOU know - what is going on. But are saying the sky is green because of some kind of political delusion.
Please stop. You have more intelligence than this.
Just as we staff border checks in France and the Yanks staff border checks in Ireland.
This is so exceedingly common throughout the years that it isn't at all difficult to find images of this happening in the past. Which is why it happening today is nothing new or to fret over.
And that is not the problem. The new checks take many many minutes. Which hugely reduces the throughput. Which creates huge queues. Which have nowhere to go.
We need to remove the need for these checks at all to fix the problem.
I would say this is like Father Ted explaining perspective to Father Dougal. But you are demonstrating the same IQ as the plastic cow.
If lying to yourself by posting guff makes you feel better then OK. mental health is important. But wowsers, you aren't making friends and influencing people.
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Staffing the posts for a bit once queues have already built up is too late. The posts weren't staffed, that's what caused the queues.
The French need to sort their shit out, if they CBA to do so then go elsewhere. No big deal.
Job done.
If the French don't man their border then queues happen, nothing new or Brexit there.
Just by checking the passports of all those children, which you welcome, will make such trips more expensive and less convenient.
A price worth paying.
The issue is that prior to 2020 it took 30 seconds to wave a car through. Now it takes x minutes which means you now need 2x the number of cabins in Dover to keep things flowing properly.
And the space doesn't exist in Dover to do that...
IT'S NOT BREXIT
Don’t doubt the French are the ones with issues but ‘frogs’ !!
About twenty years ago, I remember getting a coach from London to Paris. The coach went on a ferry, and we decamped upstairs, getting back on when it was time for the coach to get off the ferry. When we got to Paris, a guy came on the coach with a laptop, and checked our passports, one by one, as we got off the coach.
Now, surely that can't have been the only passport control - we must have been checked on the way onto the ferry? Or was it some sort of double check?
And on that note, if he wants a come back then London Mayor is or would be perfect for Boris. I don't suppose it satisfies his "Big Power" urge though.
Plenty of space exists in Dover. If you need more cabins then build more, but manning the existing ones would be a good start.
As an attempt to get back from another afternoon of arguing about Brexit, this thread seems as unsuccessful as all the others.
However, on topic, the key player here is Sadiq Khan and his intentions. That will depend on his evaluation of the political weather and the timing of the next election. IF the next election is in May 2024, he will have to decide whether to seek a Westminster constituency seat in London or continue as London's Mayor.
Assuming he stands down, the dynamic of the 2024 mayoral election could be quite different - if it looks as though Labour is going to do well nationally, it will probably if not certainly be doing well enough in London to provide a penalty kick for the Labour candidate but the ambitious are going to be looking to get into Government so wo would be left to be the Mayoral candidate? I wonder if John McDonnell or Diane Abbott would be more credible candidates from the Labour Left.
There is a group of younger Council leaders who might be seeking advancement (Rokhsana Fiaz in Newham for one) and one of them might see the Mayoralty as a route to a Westminster seat down the road especially if they are suitably loyal to a Westminster Labour Government.
As for the Conservatives, the possibility of defeat at Westminster will concentrate minds but the likelihood of winning the Mayoralty against such a backdrop seems improbable.
Could we see the emergence of other "Independent" candidates such as Rory Stewart who might achieve wider cross-London appeal?
Bailey did much better than expected in 2021 but he's had a few issues since but if the Conservatives see little prospect of winning in 2024 they may as well ask him to run again.
We could double the number of French border posts - the port asked for funding and didn't get it. That would reduce the size of the bottleneck but it would still be there. The queues would still be there albeit not as long. Until the autumn when the new biometric measures come in. At which point everyone needs to get out of their vehicles and get scanned. And we know how shitty that technology is every time we fly into a UK airport and get a big queue.
2. The space doesn't exist for the number of border booths needed
3. The funding for a modest doubling of border posts was denied.
So even if the French had provided swathes of border guards, the UK government refused to accommodate them.
But whatever. Keepo digging luv. Its funny.
And things are now back running smoothly, according to the French.
I wonder how that happened if the is problem of lack of port capacity?
Accounts for where they - and Brexit - stand in the polls.
I do have to laugh though. To listen to some of you the lack of staff at the French border is unique and unheard of at the UK border.
Nobody objected to Yanks, funny that. Scouse, Geordie etc gets used regularly too and I'm sure at a PB.co.fr website nobody would be objecting to Rosbif either.
Get over yourselves.
@Leon
Move along, nothing of interest to see here
It isn't racist. That's about the end of the conversation surely?
Proper English patriots, who happen to be Brexiteers, wouldn't go near Macron's fiefdom, so they fly to the Costas or holiday in Skegness, or go wherever everybody speaks English.
So basically, those stuck in queues in Dover or Folkestone had it coming to them. Serves them right for trying to give Macron some dosh.
Belatedly staffing the checkpoints doesn't miraculously eliminate the queues instantaneously. But they are gone now, funny that.
Had they been staffed properly in the first place, the queues would never have built up like they did.
Brexit doesn't deserve you.
*Backs slowly away*
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Let's wait and see when there's problems when the existing posts are fully staffed, which wasn't the case this time. After the existing posts got staffed, they managed to work through the queue and now it's back to normal.
Will his hatred of Brexit or of the French win out?