Oh well was bound to happen sooner or later - after feeling a bit rough yesterday with flu-y symptoms tested positive for COVID. Only have had minor examples of two of the symptoms - none of the others - small increase in temperature now back to normal and occasional cough, not consistent. Feeling a bit better today - hoping this trajectory continues!
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
Oh well was bound to happen sooner or later - after feeling a bit rough yesterday with flu-y symptoms tested positive for COVID. Only have had minor examples of two of the symptoms - none of the others - small increase in temperature now back to normal and occasional cough, not consistent. Feeling a bit better today - hoping this trajectory continues!
Get well. We can’t have one of our few female voices keeling over!
This is the bit in the Downfall vids where they say Errrm ... mein fuhrer...
CV ist keine Frau
Plato used to provide about 99% of the female input to this site. A shame she's no longer around.
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Sunak's solution is that *everyone* who crosses the Channel must know they will go to "Kigali, not King's Cross"
Rwanda Government has capacity for 200 people. It makes 30-300 asylum decisions a year. Sunak just promised to deport 20,000 asylum seekers there. He can't do this
What can be done is irrelevant. It's all about what is said. It's Borisification.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
Yep. It's another disaster on stilts.
Leadership election next summer to try and get someone who might save some seats before 2024.
Oh well was bound to happen sooner or later - after feeling a bit rough yesterday with flu-y symptoms tested positive for COVID. Only have had minor examples of two of the symptoms - none of the others - small increase in temperature now back to normal and occasional cough, not consistent. Feeling a bit better today - hoping this trajectory continues!
Get well. We can’t have one of our few female voices keeling over!
This is the bit in the Downfall vids where they say Errrm ... mein fuhrer...
CV ist keine Frau
Plato used to provide about 99% of the female input to this site. A shame she's no longer around.
She was lovely until she went alt right. And physically lovely. A sad loss.
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Sunak's solution is that *everyone* who crosses the Channel must know they will go to "Kigali, not King's Cross"
Rwanda Government has capacity for 200 people. It makes 30-300 asylum decisions a year. Sunak just promised to deport 20,000 asylum seekers there. He can't do this
We learned on Wednesday that the Home Office fails to fingerprint or photo many of the arrivals, and loses track of them.
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Sunak's solution is that *everyone* who crosses the Channel must know they will go to "Kigali, not King's Cross"
Rwanda Government has capacity for 200 people. It makes 30-300 asylum decisions a year. Sunak just promised to deport 20,000 asylum seekers there. He can't do this
This is what happens when Johnson rushes through some bonkers idea or other for a couple of days of distracting headlines. Now the party will have to deliver on the policy as both runners, in order to curry favour with the Johnson-loving members, have now committed to go with it, if not expand it massively.
Oh well was bound to happen sooner or later - after feeling a bit rough yesterday with flu-y symptoms tested positive for COVID. Only have had minor examples of two of the symptoms - none of the others - small increase in temperature now back to normal and occasional cough, not consistent. Feeling a bit better today - hoping this trajectory continues!
Get well. We can’t have one of our few female voices keeling over!
Seconded. But I didn't think female. Although do internet ids have a gender?
Oh well was bound to happen sooner or later - after feeling a bit rough yesterday with flu-y symptoms tested positive for COVID. Only have had minor examples of two of the symptoms - none of the others - small increase in temperature now back to normal and occasional cough, not consistent. Feeling a bit better today - hoping this trajectory continues!
Get well. We can’t have one of our few female voices keeling over!
Seconded. But I didn't think female. Although do internet ids have a gender?
Sunder Katwala @sundersays Sunak's solution is that *everyone* who crosses the Channel must know they will go to "Kigali, not King's Cross"
Rwanda Government has capacity for 200 people. It makes 30-300 asylum decisions a year. Sunak just promised to deport 20,000 asylum seekers there. He can't do this
Perhaps he just means they will pay the £30 000 and elect to be taxed in Kigali
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In fact, it's quite noticeable that exactly the same bozos who told us that IDS was the man, are now telling us that Truss has great, though hitherto undetected, leadership qualities. One of them is Sir Iain Duncan Smith himself - the duddest dud who ever won a leadership election.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
That is not the problem. MP's have voted through two deeply unsuitable candidates, one of whom is likely to have used his advantage with MPs to engineer a situation where he is opposed by the weakest alternative candidate. That is all the fault of MPs, not the members. If anyone should be denied a vote in future it's the parliamentary party.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
Possibly. Although, as you will recall, Nick Clegg's PR referendum didn't exactly go to plan....
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
The Tories need to be removed from office and kept out for the foreseeable future and the only way that can happen is through PR .
A long period in opposition is what’s needed in the hope that the party might return to a semblance of sanity and move away from the disgusting divisive politics that they’ve inflicted on the UK in recent times .
In the spring I released 500 native ladybird larvae, in a forlorn hope of keeping the aphids under control. The proper red ones. Not the orange harlequins that are the ones you mostly see these days. Was gratifying to find a pair of them this evening on a fence post “all grown up” and doing what grown up ladybirds do.
I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
Good night all.
You are of course right. Your dislike is quite irrational.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
Possibly. Although, as you will recall, Nick Clegg's PR referendum didn't exactly go to plan....
Risky things, referendums.
Agreed. But possibly that's because the ground wasn't prepared. They rushed into it.
I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
Good night all.
You are of course right. Your dislike is quite irrational.
I always grew up somehow envying people whose parents took them on driving holidays to Greece through Yugoslavia, and such like. My parents were never the type to do this, but I suppose driving long distances and camping for holidays is ingrained in some people.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
The Tories need to be removed from office and kept out for the foreseeable future and the only way that can happen is through PR .
A long period in opposition is what’s needed in the hope that the party might return to a semblance of sanity and move away from the disgusting divisive politics that they’ve inflicted on the UK in recent times .
In order to push PR through without a referendum Labour would have to have it clearly stated in their manifesto.
Even then the right-wing press will go apeshit and do what they can to derail it.
I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
Good night all.
That was me for goodness knows how many summers.
Although we tended to use Weymouth and St Malo route.
I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
Good night all.
You haven't told us why you don't like it. (Other than it being irrational).
Horse is having a merry night. Official summer break is nearly here ; Boris is gone. A lot to celebrate, just for a few weeks at least.
Last I saw Johnson still had his sweaty hands on the nuke codes and a pass key to Chequers, so I will hold back on the celebrations.
Anyway, what's coming is worse frankly.
I know, but a bit of August, or nearly-August, escapism is always good for the soul. The French, Spanish, Italians and Greeks, are always particularly good at this, with the cities emptying and shops left shuttered and unmanned, and the lower-key, drifting English stasis in August can also be replenishng.
In the spring I released 500 native ladybird larvae, in a forlorn hope of keeping the aphids under control. The proper red ones. Not the orange harlequins that are the ones you mostly see these days. Was gratifying to find a pair of them this evening on a fence post “all grown up” and doing what grown up ladybirds do.
In the spring I released 500 native ladybird larvae, in a forlorn hope of keeping the aphids under control. The proper red ones. Not the orange harlequins that are the ones you mostly see these days. Was gratifying to find a pair of them this evening on a fence post “all grown up” and doing what grown up ladybirds do.
In the spring I released 500 native ladybird larvae, in a forlorn hope of keeping the aphids under control. The proper red ones. Not the orange harlequins that are the ones you mostly see these days. Was gratifying to find a pair of them this evening on a fence post “all grown up” and doing what grown up ladybirds do.
Interesting.
How do you get the larvae?
The mummy and daddy ladybirds have to rub tummies... is what I was told.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
The Tories need to be removed from office and kept out for the foreseeable future and the only way that can happen is through PR .
A long period in opposition is what’s needed in the hope that the party might return to a semblance of sanity and move away from the disgusting divisive politics that they’ve inflicted on the UK in recent times .
In order to push PR through without a referendum Labour would have to have it clearly stated in their manifesto.
Even then the right-wing press will go apeshit and do what they can to derail it.
Indeed. That is the reality.
Might be part of the reason Johnson seems to be planning to pack the HoL with peers of his choosing.
The membership are appalled that Johnson has been ousted and would vote him back in again in preference to Sunak and Truss.
The MPs wanted Johnson out but most of them want Sunak and not Truss.
If the membership can't have Johnson they will vote in droves for Remainer Truss over Leaver Sunak because he helped oust Johnson.
So we will end up with PM Truss who only a third MPs want and a membership who never wanted Johnson to leave and view Truss as distant 2nd best.
Pass the popcorn Jeeves.
The problem is giving members the vote as Labour discovered with Corbyn and, as the Tories had already discovered back in 2001 with IDS: a leader who does not have the confidence of the parliamentary party.
It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
I agree. IBS, Ed Milly, Jezza all thanks to giving members the vote
In Ed's case it was the unions.
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Yep, and the ERGers who are backing Truss who will probably lead the Tories to annihilation, may quite possibly give Starmer enough personal authority and enough of a majority to roll back Brexit when he gets into Number 10.
Or introduce PR and then when a solid Lab-Liberal government forms in 2028 - do another eu vote by which time 10% of the leavers of 2016 will be dead.
The Tories need to be removed from office and kept out for the foreseeable future and the only way that can happen is through PR .
A long period in opposition is what’s needed in the hope that the party might return to a semblance of sanity and move away from the disgusting divisive politics that they’ve inflicted on the UK in recent times .
In order to push PR through without a referendum Labour would have to have it clearly stated in their manifesto.
Even then the right-wing press will go apeshit and do what they can to derail it.
Indeed. That is the reality.
Might be part of the reason Johnson seems to be planning to pack the HoL with peers of his choosing.
That can always be overcome of course. And the HoL would not block a manifesto commitment.
Interesting that Murdoch papers seem to be going for Sunak.
My guess is they want to knock out Rish and get PM Truss because they think (probably not unreasonably) that Liz will be so bad as PM the Tories will beg Boris to return before Jan25,,,
Interesting that Murdoch papers seem to be going for Sunak.
My guess is they want to knock out Rish and get PM Truss because they think (probably not unreasonably) that Liz will be so bad as PM the Tories will beg Boris to return before Jan25,,,
Little do they know that Truss’s name will rank alongside Attlee and Thatcher.
Interesting that Murdoch papers seem to be going for Sunak.
My guess is they want to knock out Rish and get PM Truss because they think (probably not unreasonably) that Liz will be so bad as PM the Tories will beg Boris to return before Jan25,,,
Little do they know that Truss’s name will rank alongside Attlee and Thatcher.
..in her first dream in Downing Street, as Prime Minister.
Interesting that Murdoch papers seem to be going for Sunak.
My guess is they want to knock out Rish and get PM Truss because they think (probably not unreasonably) that Liz will be so bad as PM the Tories will beg Boris to return before Jan25,,,
Little do they know that Truss’s name will rank alongside Attlee and Thatcher.
Only in the list of PMs and their total days in office. She'll be alongside them in the sense of being on the list but will down there with the ones who lasted 364 days.
In the spring I released 500 native ladybird larvae, in a forlorn hope of keeping the aphids under control. The proper red ones. Not the orange harlequins that are the ones you mostly see these days. Was gratifying to find a pair of them this evening on a fence post “all grown up” and doing what grown up ladybirds do.
Interesting that Murdoch papers seem to be going for Sunak.
My guess is they want to knock out Rish and get PM Truss because they think (probably not unreasonably) that Liz will be so bad as PM the Tories will beg Boris to return before Jan25,,,
Little do they know that Truss’s name will rank alongside Attlee and Thatcher.
Only in the list of PMs and their total days in office. She'll be alongside them in the sense of being on the list but will down there with the ones who lasted 364 days.
Her portrait will be on the stairs, and inside her first dream as Prime Minister a velvet curtain will rise, a bevy of blue-rinse 1984 party stalwarts will be revealed in a dreamy, heavenly cinematic auditorium-type space, redolent of a Powell and Pressburger film, and Truss will see herself on a giant conference screen saying : " No ! No ! No ! "
My favourite newspaper columnist is Matthew Syed in the Sunday Times, and now I'm listening to his radio programme on Radio Four. A pity we can't have Matthew as next prime minister.
To be fair everyone is "begging" everyone right now.. "Saving The Planet" is a costly and humiliating business...
It will be interesting to see if Rishi and Liz have anything to say about energy security in their first televised debate tonight beyond platitudes. I'm sure they are both in favour of it but how do we get there?
"Shops in France will be ordered to close doors when using air conditioning and limit neon lighting in a bid to cut energy waste, a minister has said.
These rules, already in place in some areas, will be rolled out across France, Minister of Ecological Transition Agnes Pannier-Runacher told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper. Energy costs in Europe have spiralled since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Shops will be fined up to €750 (£640) for breaking the air-conditioning rule. Leaving doors open when air conditioning is on is "absurd", Ms Pannier-Runacher told local radio station RMC."
The Telegraph posted an article the other day saying that we were sending more gas than usual to Europe.
We've sold our gas storage facilities, solar panels become less efficient as their temperature rises (as in last week's heatwave) and much of France's nuclear estate was down. Fingers crossed for the winter when demand will be high and Russian gas supplies to the continent problematic.
NHS in England facing worst staffing crisis, MPs warn The large number of unfilled NHS job vacancies is posing a serious risk to patient safety, a report by MPs says.
It found England is now short of 12,000 hospital doctors and more than 50,000 nurses and midwives, calling this the worst workforce crisis in NHS history. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62267282
Spoilers: the government is not on track to deliver its manifesto commitment of 6,000 more GPs, and the situation is even worse in the social care sector.
"Shops in France will be ordered to close doors when using air conditioning and limit neon lighting in a bid to cut energy waste, a minister has said.
These rules, already in place in some areas, will be rolled out across France, Minister of Ecological Transition Agnes Pannier-Runacher told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper. Energy costs in Europe have spiralled since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Shops will be fined up to €750 (£640) for breaking the air-conditioning rule. Leaving doors open when air conditioning is on is "absurd", Ms Pannier-Runacher told local radio station RMC."
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It's pretty sobering that Truss got just 50 votes from Tory MPs (14per cent) in the first round. The irresponibility of those promoting her is remarkable. But, of course, they know best just as the IDS crowd did twenty years ago.
But if you do
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It's all about what is said.
It's Borisification.
Leadership election next summer to try and get someone who might save some seats before 2024.
It would seem wise to fix that first.
If you doubt this, go on YouTube and watch the first day of Sky News from 1989.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/24/keir-starmer-labour-will-fight-next-election-on-economic-growth
He is a joke
We would still be in the EU if they hadn't rigged the vote for Ed M via their mail out ballots.
Risky things, referendums.
A long period in opposition is what’s needed in the hope that the party might return to a semblance of sanity and move away from the disgusting divisive politics that they’ve inflicted on the UK in recent times .
But at least they’re talking about it, rather than Rwanda, or whether they’ll allow civil servants to work from home, etc.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/sleepy-village-near-lakes-beach-24553031
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/24/chess-robot-grabs-and-breaks-finger-of-seven-year-old-opponent-moscow
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I have always had an irrational dislike of people who go on holiday by means of crossing the Channel with their car and then driving to somewhere in France. Especially if their destination is a camp site. Or a "gite". And expecially if they drive continuously for an unsafe period of time. Overnight.
So a bit of schadenfreude to see them all stuck in queues in Kent for hour after hour.
Good night all.
UK deb
Anyway, what's coming is worse frankly.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/24/gen-z-for-zero-tolerance-why-british-youth-are-turning-off-booze
Even then the right-wing press will go apeshit and do what they can to derail it.
Although we tended to use Weymouth and St Malo route.
How do you get the larvae?
Might be part of the reason Johnson seems to be planning to pack the HoL with peers of his choosing.
We still have laws and courts. Oh, and the ECHR.
National Grid issued emergency appeal to avoid blackout last week
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/07/24/britain-forced-beg-belgium-power-keep-lights/ (£££)
Holidaymakers and hauliers faced major delays at the Channel Tunnel after delays at Dover eased
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dover-delays-traffic-holidays-disruption-brexit-french-b1014323.html
Too few British staff; too few French staff.
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2.92 Rishi Sunak 34%
These rules, already in place in some areas, will be rolled out across France, Minister of Ecological Transition Agnes Pannier-Runacher told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper. Energy costs in Europe have spiralled since the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Shops will be fined up to €750 (£640) for breaking the air-conditioning rule. Leaving doors open when air conditioning is on is "absurd", Ms Pannier-Runacher told local radio station RMC."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62286924
The large number of unfilled NHS job vacancies is posing a serious risk to patient safety, a report by MPs says.
It found England is now short of 12,000 hospital doctors and more than 50,000 nurses and midwives, calling this the worst workforce crisis in NHS history.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62267282
Spoilers: the government is not on track to deliver its manifesto commitment of 6,000 more GPs, and the situation is even worse in the social care sector.
Something else for the leadership debate tonight.