First, I've invented a new word "heatbernate" - meaning to seek rest and shelter from periods of extreme hear.
Second, my prediction for tonight is Sunak first, Badenoch second, Mordaunt third and Truss fourth.
Already done. To aestivate/aestivation is a thing in zoology. Though that is perhaps for longer periods than one middle of the day, for which as suggested siesta works better.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
NigelB - FWIW, a local supermarket here in the Seattle area (QFC) has been raising leafy plants inside a nearby store under artificial lights for months now. As I recall from the last time I looked, basil is the most popular. (Electricity is cheaper in this area than most places.)
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
Here on the Bucks/Oxon borders I think it must be around 36c but there is a bit of a breeze. I have certainly been in hotter places before but it is certainly very toasty for this country.
I am remarkably impressed by how well our new build (4 years old) house has coped. I closed everything at just after 9am today. Downstairs is about 23c and upstairs about 25c. When you step in from outside it feels air conditioned. All that insulation designed to keep the house warm is paying off now too. Our house is rendered white which I think must help too.
Insulation insulates. Who knew?
To be honest, the insulation quality of your 4 year old house doesn't sound that different from our 350-year old in much the same part of the Thames Valley. The only relevant changes a few dozen occupants have made over the centuries to the feet-thick limestone have been a lot more opportunities for air to blow through and lots of double-glazing.
It’s tedious waiting until 8pm for the result today. Get on with it!
As for fertiliser and CO2, can Robert enlighten us on what Californian startup is going to become the Apple/Tesla/Google of food? Surely there’s mahoosive scope for highly energy and resource efficient vertical farming, closed loop even. Plenty experimenting with it, who’s going to be the trillion dollar company because of it? Because someone will.
It's an excellent question.
I've seen some very interesting companies in the sector - one of which produces LEDs tuned to photosynthesis. That is, they only output light in the wavelengths that plants can use for growing.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
What on earth are you on about? They call her a hand grenade because she gets things done. Someone like that isn't going to blow the union up.
Goodness knows! I just wangled a room upgrade to one of the snazziest holiday apartments I’ve ever seen, and the celebration drinks started a couple of hours ago. So ignore at will! 😄
Incidentally, it seems to me that when the next round of results are announced, the odds might shift against Sunak because he's going to look as though he's lost momentum. In fact, of course, it will simply be the fact that it is Braverman votes being redistributed. His turn for a boost will be when the Tugendhat votes get redistributed, and probably again when Badenoch drops out.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
Not just the sovereign, but a surprisingly wide range of assorted relatives.
Thats pretty thin gruel...£187m over 100 odd years? so what?
That's the ones they know about, and in any case, if I or my executors tried that, HMRC would treat my incorporeal personalty very differently from the ones touched with royalty.
We're not supposed to be living in the ****ing Middle Ages or Ancien Regime.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
They said that about Boris. Things soon fell apart when he was forced to botch everything in a desperate attempt to keep all his disparate backers on board. Part of the Boris tragedy really.
Say you (plus three family members) have a 8 hour flight in economy and you have the option to bid to upgrade to business class. What would you pay one way? I reckon £150 pp tops.
NigelB - FWIW, a local supermarket here in the Seattle area (QFC) has been raising leafy plants inside a nearby store under artificial lights for months now. As I recall from the last time I looked, basil is the most popular. (Electricity is cheaper in this area than most places.)
Thanks; I vaguely recall reading something about that, or something along the same lines. For niche cases - relatively high value goods like herbs, which perish rapidly and are expensive to ship - it's already interesting to some markets.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Got my ballot for WA State August 2, 2022 primary in the mail late last week.
Note that under our Top Two system, the two top vote getters in the primary, regardless of party preference (or lack thereof) advance to the general election.
Not much to vote on this summer, but some significant contested federal and state races:
> US Senator - 18 candidates filed, took me a while to hunt for and find MY choice, incumbent Democratic Sen. Patty Murray, who I first voted for in the 1992 primary. The other 17 this year are mostly no-hope ballot-fillers (or -stuffers) including 5 others running under Democratic Party label, 4 "Independent Party", 3 Republican Party, 2 "No Party Preference", 1 Socialist Worker Party, 1 "Trump Republican" and . . . wait for it . . . 1 "JFK Republican". Pick of this litter are Patty and her real rival, Republican (without modification) Tiffany Smiley who is being backed by (what's left of) state GOP establishment.
> US House 7th Congressional District - just 4 hopefuls, including incumbent Pramila Jayapal, leader of House progressives and shoo-in to make the general AND win re-election. Others are 2 declared Democrats and one Independent by name of Jesse James whose key campaign plank is liberating Julian Assange.
> WA Secretary of State - very interesting & unusual open-seat race, resulting from mid-term resignation of former Republican SOS Kim Wyman, who left to take an election security job with Biden Administration; there are 8 candidates on the primary ballot (for remaining two years of Wyman's term) including 3 Republicans, 2 Democrats, 1 "Union Party", 1 "America First (R) Party" and 1 declared "Nonpartisan". The leading candidates are incumbent (appointed) Democrat SOS Steve Hobbs a former state senator, and Nonpartisan Julie Anderson, who is Pierce County (Tacoma) Auditor (county elections officer). General election race between Hobbs and Anderson should be a humdinger, with Republican voters gravitating to her, along with some Dems and many independents who have become used to voting for a Republican for this office, in large measure so they do NOT cast a party-line vote their entire ballot.
> WA State Senator 36th Leg District - another open seat race, caused by retirement of sitting senator, 2 candidates on ballot, both Democrats; both will automatically advance to the general, but #1 vote getter will be incumbent State Representative, the other is a perennial candidate who is 99.46% sure get crushed in the Fall.
> WA State Representative - two separate positions on ballot, in one the incumbent Dem is running unopposed, in the other, open-seat race there are 5 hopefuls, all Democrats, of whom two will advance to general, probably the lone moderate and one progressive, with Republican voters (about 10% max in this district) mostly going for the mod, and Democrats splitting, with precise balance deciding the outcome.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Here on the Bucks/Oxon borders I think it must be around 36c but there is a bit of a breeze. I have certainly been in hotter places before but it is certainly very toasty for this country.
I am remarkably impressed by how well our new build (4 years old) house has coped. I closed everything at just after 9am today. Downstairs is about 23c and upstairs about 25c. When you step in from outside it feels air conditioned. All that insulation designed to keep the house warm is paying off now too. Our house is rendered white which I think must help too.
Upon reading "Bucks/Oxon" my immediate mental picture was of a 6-point buck in standoff with a longhorn ox!
NigelB - FWIW, a local supermarket here in the Seattle area (QFC) has been raising leafy plants inside a nearby store under artificial lights for months now. As I recall from the last time I looked, basil is the most popular. (Electricity is cheaper in this area than most places.)
Thanks; I vaguely recall reading something about that, or something along the same lines. For niche cases - relatively high value goods like herbs, which perish rapidly and are expensive to ship - it's already interesting to some markets.
Raising leafy plants under lights is very popular, the previous tenants in the flat above me used to do it, until the police for some reason took exception and raided it quite dramatically. Well, dramatic for suburban Hampshire.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
My guess is it's Boris and Lebedev and co. That would interest Finns, and there was the reference to multiple injunctions, which I understand Russian wideboys re very fond of taking out
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
I would have thought there would be Swedish-language Finnish stuff and you could find it quite easily.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
They’re called ‘erratics’ aren’t they? Been many moons since I studied geology. Very common throughout the former glaciated areas, eg Scotland and Scandinavia.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
There's always someone else I'd put her bottom of my list (with the caveat that Badenoch, while interesting, might do some things I really dislike; Truss I think would achieve little, so she might be preferable in that sense).
She's my second best betting result, though. Only because I saw value when she drifted out. Badenoch is still my best, even though I sold most of my stake early on.
*good/bad depending on whether she did more or what I liked or more that I disliked
Considering you and I are actually quite similar in many of our political views, I'd be curious why you'd put her bottom of your list?
We are? Well, in some views... Both small l liberal, though we have some differences on EU and broader economic policy, I think
I don't think she's particularly competent, doesn't have any vision (neither does Sunak, to be fair, not sure about Mordaunt) and (unfairly) I find her quite annoying.
Also, she's a double traitor - LD leaver and repentent remoaner
Here on the Bucks/Oxon borders I think it must be around 36c but there is a bit of a breeze. I have certainly been in hotter places before but it is certainly very toasty for this country.
I am remarkably impressed by how well our new build (4 years old) house has coped. I closed everything at just after 9am today. Downstairs is about 23c and upstairs about 25c. When you step in from outside it feels air conditioned. All that insulation designed to keep the house warm is paying off now too. Our house is rendered white which I think must help too.
Insulation insulates. Who knew?
To be honest, the insulation quality of your 4 year old house doesn't sound that different from our 350-year old in much the same part of the Thames Valley. The only relevant changes a few dozen occupants have made over the centuries to the feet-thick limestone have been a lot more opportunities for air to blow through and lots of double-glazing.
I just got home from work, it's 35 outside and 26 inside. I've been working in 30,so it feels like aircon. And I forgot not to open the curtains.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
They’re called ‘erratics’ aren’t they? Been many moons since I studied geology. Very common throughout the former glaciated areas, eg Scotland and Scandinavia.
Which as US resident he has every right to do, up to a point (can't vote or contribute funds).
Whether it's a smart thing for Harry to do, is another question. One that I will NOT rely upon the Daily Mail to judge.
BTW, the Daily Mail tabloid TV show aired from coast to coast here is notably WAY less Harry-phobic than it's parent "organ". Indeed, rather pro Harry & Meghan, as it is aimed NOT at Blimplish-liverish geezers, but at a younger, hipper demographic.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
I would have thought there would be Swedish-language Finnish stuff and you could find it quite easily.
Absolutely! In theory 😉
Only about 5% of Finnish media - much less of social media - is in Swedish, so it’s not a great help.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
Jim Callaghan himself said that that was a lot of nonsense.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
The SNP didn't just bring down a Labour government. The SNP joined with the Conservatives to bring down a Labour Government put Margaret Thatcher in power for 11 years.
Good evening. What temperature did London / Heathrow peak at today?
Not wanting to be a spoil sport (actually I do) but for the record to be meaningful it should be at a long-established weather station, one not affected by urban heat island effects. Airports are well dodgy sites for long-term significance. (Repeat due to curse of new thread)
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
The SNP didn't just bring down a Labour government. The SNP joined with the Conservatives to bring down a Labour Government put Margaret Thatcher in power for 11 years.
Not according to Jim Callaghan. Who knew rather more about it than you (or me, admittedly).
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
Jim Callaghan himself said that that was a lot of nonsense.
Labour scumbags care not a jot for facts. They are just as much up their own arses as the Tories.
NigelB - FWIW, a local supermarket here in the Seattle area (QFC) has been raising leafy plants inside a nearby store under artificial lights for months now. As I recall from the last time I looked, basil is the most popular. (Electricity is cheaper in this area than most places.)
Because Seattle has socialized electricity, and has had for over a century, via Seattle City Light, municipal utility that owns and operates 3 dams for hydro power. Resulting in some of the lowest electricity costs for businesses & residences in the USA.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
There's always someone else I'd put her bottom of my list (with the caveat that Badenoch, while interesting, might do some things I really dislike; Truss I think would achieve little, so she might be preferable in that sense).
She's my second best betting result, though. Only because I saw value when she drifted out. Badenoch is still my best, even though I sold most of my stake early on.
*good/bad depending on whether she did more or what I liked or more that I disliked
Considering you and I are actually quite similar in many of our political views, I'd be curious why you'd put her bottom of your list?
We are? Well, in some views... Both small l liberal, though we have some differences on EU and broader economic policy, I think
I don't think she's particularly competent, doesn't have any vision (neither does Sunak, to be fair, not sure about Mordaunt) and (unfairly) I find her quite annoying.
Also, she's a double traitor - LD leaver and repentent remoaner
Don't worry - you're not. He only thinks that because you've never done the 48 hour non-stop tumble on a specific point across multiple threads with him. He takes this to mean agreement.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
She seems serious, passionate and capable. I think you should back her to the hilt.
From a Labour perspective she looks suitable. The public persona and charisma of T May + a harsh set of principles and without the solidity and correctness. I think Labourites are looking at a further period in opposition if Kemi gets it, otherwise they should be reasonably confident. Truss would be the Labour favourite though, as there is something to be said for all then others.
Fucking woke governments! How dare they assist deviant, foreign rodents display their trans(national) genitals in pure English habitats?
Beavers to be legally protected from harm in England from October
Under new legislation, it will be an offence to deliberately capture, kill, disturb or injure beavers in England or damage where the animals breed and rest
A five-year government trial on the river Otter in south-west England concluded that beavers had brought “a wealth of benefits to the local area and ecology”.
In GREAT news for the Conservative Party and the UK, all five candidates firmly on record now support the Net Zero 50 target and will do what they can to deliver it. 😎
For Kemi promising “not row back on net zero” being described as a big u turn, whilst peat restoration is Sunak’s “pet project” Truss is leading a delegation to Canada in December as our PM, Tom was once on the side of more sewage pollution, but now thinks his voting on that stinks
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
That's what Stodge was intimating earlier.
I'll go back and read his comments.
Quite exciting all this isn't it. Sad bunch aren't we?
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
They’re called ‘erratics’ aren’t they? Been many moons since I studied geology. Very common throughout the former glaciated areas, eg Scotland and Scandinavia.
Yep!
Seattle's most famous erratic rock (next to Kurt Cobain):
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
That's what Stodge was intimating earlier.
I'll go back and read his comments.
Quite exiting all this isn't it. Sad bunch aren't we?
Exiting? It's only quite exiting for Tom Tugendhat.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
I would have thought there would be Swedish-language Finnish stuff and you could find it quite easily.
Cicero said that the rumor was rumored to be subject of threats or more of injunctions and super-injunctions, so trolling the mainstream press likely to be unlikely at turning up anything at this time.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
That's what Stodge was intimating earlier.
I'll go back and read his comments.
Quite exiting all this isn't it. Sad bunch aren't we?
Exiting? It's only quite exiting for Tom Tugendhat.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
It’s not happening Andy. As Badenoch has had a difficult time under scrutiny since the last vote, and Truss has improved (whatever that means) the Braverman votes increase Truss lead over Kemi and perhaps to about 10 on Penny.
With her immature teen-like ideas and approach to politics (Kemi is certainly the heir to Gove) its hard to know what Sunak will do with her when PM, Education probably, unless he has disguised how much he dislikes her and her politics in which case Health.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
She's probably the best qualified candidate. And I'd argue her record is better than Rishi who has come up with some pretty dreadful ideas in his two years of Chancellor, as well as being given a fixed penalty notice.
It wouldn't shock me if Penny Mordaunt collapses like a flan tonight.
She's been exposed as being an empty vessel over the last few days and I think a fair few of her votes will move to Rishi.
Alternatively, the "Anyone But Truss" voters might get behind Mordaunt to keep Truss off the balllot.
Who are these legions of "Anyone but Truss" voters?
And the problem is that the party is quite close to a three way split right now, so no faction can afford to lend tactical votes to another without seeing themselves eliminated.
The interesting result tonight would be if Badenoch somehow overtakes Truss, or gets close to doing so. Also if Mordaunt loses votes compared to the previous round.
It’s not happening Andy. As Badenoch has had a difficult time under scrutiny since the last vote, and Truss has improved (whatever that means) the Braverman votes increase Truss lead over Kemi and perhaps to about 10 on Penny.
With her immature teen-like ideas and approach to politics (Kemi is certainly the heir to Gove) its hard to know what Sunak will do with her when PM, Education probably, unless he has disguised how much he dislikes her and her politics in which case Health.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
They said that about Boris. Things soon fell apart when he was forced to botch everything in a desperate attempt to keep all his disparate backers on board. Part of the Boris tragedy really.
I mean, he won the election? And I don't think he was undone by the botching unraveling, it was more that he was constantly creating scandals. He got away with it early on because Brexit, but once that got done and he got into a grumpy midterm period people started applying the usual standards.
As things stand I think Liz Truss is going to win.
I bloody hope so!
I'm hoping for a Rishi/Truss run-off to the membership as its then literally win/win.
Either win - my bet comes in, or win - the best candidate wins and we get the best candidate to be PM. Either way I'd be happy. 👍
Truss is the Fuck the Union candidate par excellence. She’s head and shoulders above the rest.
I think the SNP would have big problems if they joined with the Conservatives under Truss to undermine the operation of a Lab/LD coalition or Lab minority government with C&S and perhaps even bring it down. PM Truss would make that outcome more likely I think. So be careful what you wish for.
“Joined with the Conservatives”?!? Ho ho. That’s a tremendous Labour attack line… when you lot quite literally just “joined with the Conservatives” in councils throughout the country. And don’t forget:
Your memory is short. The SNP went from 11 to 2 seats in 1979 when it last brought down a Labour government.
The SNP didn't just bring down a Labour government. The SNP joined with the Conservatives to bring down a Labour Government put Margaret Thatcher in power for 11 years.
I always thought it was the voters who put Thatcher in power, but I'm happy to be corrected if wrong.
It was the SNP that forced the General Election that gave the voters that opportunity. Thatcher may never have been PM if it wasn't for the SNP voting with the Conservatives to bring down the Labour government when they did.
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
They’re called ‘erratics’ aren’t they? Been many moons since I studied geology. Very common throughout the former glaciated areas, eg Scotland and Scandinavia.
Yep!
Seattle's most famous erratic rock (next to Kurt Cobain):
Did we ever find out what @Cicero was referring to with the big Finnish story about to destroy the Conservative Party? I’m lazy and would rather not trawl the depths of the Finnish blogosphere.
Couldn't see anything when I had a look on Twatter just now but did find this very nice, and possibly if obscurely relevant, pic of a rock:
They’re called ‘erratics’ aren’t they? Been many moons since I studied geology. Very common throughout the former glaciated areas, eg Scotland and Scandinavia.
Yep!
Seattle's most famous erratic rock (next to Kurt Cobain):
Though there are bigger ones - appreciable fractions of square kms in size - big enough to quarry, known in Scotland, and I'm sure still bigger ones elsewhere.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
They said that about Boris. Things soon fell apart when he was forced to botch everything in a desperate attempt to keep all his disparate backers on board. Part of the Boris tragedy really.
I mean, he won the election? And I don't think he was undone by the botching unraveling, it was more that he was constantly creating scandals. He got away with it early on because Brexit, but once that got done and he got into a grumpy midterm period people started applying the usual standards.
Unravelled quickly too. Hartlepool and that big inflatable gimp of him floating triumphantly in the air was only a year ago.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
Nope, neither of you support Truss for PM, I’m not falling for that, you are only saying this for a bet or some clever punchline.
She is absolute rubbish. She can’t speak. Has no presentational style, charisma or substance. She can’t think on her feet. She turns voters off. There is absolutely nothing there you can say is a good facet or characteristic, let alone makes her better than the other four candidates.
I’m trying to work out how intelligent person with an interest in politics can publicly post what you have just. What is the punchline?
SeaShantyIrish2 - The QFC I mentioned is, like me, in Kirkland, and so gets its electricity from a private company, PSE. (PSE still gets a large portion of its electricity from burning coal in Montana. source: https://www.pse.com/en/pages/energy-supply/electric-supply )
It wouldn't shock me if Penny Mordaunt collapses like a flan tonight.
She's been exposed as being an empty vessel over the last few days and I think a fair few of her votes will move to Rishi.
Alternatively, the "Anyone But Truss" voters might get behind Mordaunt to keep Truss off the balllot.
Who are these legions of "Anyone but Truss" voters?
And the problem is that the party is quite close to a three way split right now, so no faction can afford to lend tactical votes to another without seeing themselves eliminated.
MPs who have seen her up close, seen how useless she is, and fear for their seats. Not a prediction, but a possibility.
I am quite green on Truss and a doubly good outcome for me as I think she will be an electoral liability very quickly.
Am I the only person on this site who, book-value aside, thinks that Truss is the best candidate?
Almost everyone else on this site seems to be anti-Truss for one reason or another it seems.
I do. She's audacious and politically astute. Not long ago was supposed to be the liberal one, now she's somehow the candidate of the ERG. She'll reinvent herself again once she gets into Number 10.
Nope, neither of you support Truss for PM, I’m not falling for that, you are only saying this for a bet or some clever punchline.
She is absolute rubbish. She can’t speak. Has no presentational style, charisma or substance. She can’t think on her feet. She turns voters off. There is absolutely nothing there you can say is a good facet or characteristic, let alone makes her better than the other four candidates.
I’m trying to work out how intelligent person with an interest in politics can publicly post what you have just. What is the punchline?
Barty has been a fan for a long time. Personally, I think she is possible a tad harshy spoken of, but I may be wrong.
SeaShantyIrish2 - The QFC I mentioned is, like me, in Kirkland, and so gets its electricity from a private company, PSE. (PSE still gets a large portion of its electricity from burning coal in Montana. source: https://www.pse.com/en/pages/energy-supply/electric-supply )
Ah, yes, PSE. What a bunch of land pirates! They did a great job via their incompetence in trying to blow up my neighborhood a few years back.
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Its still hard to believe he's actually genuine and not a Harry Enfield character.
We're not supposed to be living in the ****ing Middle Ages or Ancien Regime.
For niche cases - relatively high value goods like herbs, which perish rapidly and are expensive to ship - it's already interesting to some markets.
Note that under our Top Two system, the two top vote getters in the primary, regardless of party preference (or lack thereof) advance to the general election.
Not much to vote on this summer, but some significant contested federal and state races:
> US Senator - 18 candidates filed, took me a while to hunt for and find MY choice, incumbent Democratic Sen. Patty Murray, who I first voted for in the 1992 primary. The other 17 this year are mostly no-hope ballot-fillers (or -stuffers) including 5 others running under Democratic Party label, 4 "Independent Party", 3 Republican Party, 2 "No Party Preference", 1 Socialist Worker Party, 1 "Trump Republican" and . . . wait for it . . . 1 "JFK Republican". Pick of this litter are Patty and her real rival, Republican (without modification) Tiffany Smiley who is being backed by (what's left of) state GOP establishment.
> US House 7th Congressional District - just 4 hopefuls, including incumbent Pramila Jayapal, leader of House progressives and shoo-in to make the general AND win re-election. Others are 2 declared Democrats and one Independent by name of Jesse James whose key campaign plank is liberating Julian Assange.
> WA Secretary of State - very interesting & unusual open-seat race, resulting from mid-term resignation of former Republican SOS Kim Wyman, who left to take an election security job with Biden Administration; there are 8 candidates on the primary ballot (for remaining two years of Wyman's term) including 3 Republicans, 2 Democrats, 1 "Union Party", 1 "America First (R) Party" and 1 declared "Nonpartisan". The leading candidates are incumbent (appointed) Democrat SOS Steve Hobbs a former state senator, and Nonpartisan Julie Anderson, who is Pierce County (Tacoma) Auditor (county elections officer). General election race between Hobbs and Anderson should be a humdinger, with Republican voters gravitating to her, along with some Dems and many independents who have become used to voting for a Republican for this office, in large measure so they do NOT cast a party-line vote their entire ballot.
> WA State Senator 36th Leg District - another open seat race, caused by retirement of sitting senator, 2 candidates on ballot, both Democrats; both will automatically advance to the general, but #1 vote getter will be incumbent State Representative, the other is a perennial candidate who is 99.46% sure get crushed in the Fall.
> WA State Representative - two separate positions on ballot, in one the incumbent Dem is running unopposed, in the other, open-seat race there are 5 hopefuls, all Democrats, of whom two will advance to general, probably the lone moderate and one progressive, with Republican voters (about 10% max in this district) mostly going for the mod, and Democrats splitting, with precise balance deciding the outcome.
@francis_scarr
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4h
You couldn't make this up
Last night Russian state TV ran a report on the unexpected 'benefits' of having your son killed in Ukraine
You can buy a Lada with the compensation given to you by the state!
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1548992984946974720
https://twitter.com/asIiceofhistory/status/1545991880953196544
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11024503/Prince-Harry-set-lecture-General-Assembly-poverty.html
Something to feed the 'stabbed in the back' campaign he plans to run after September?
I don't think she's particularly competent, doesn't have any vision (neither does Sunak, to be fair, not sure about Mordaunt) and (unfairly) I find her quite annoying.
Also, she's a double traitor - LD leaver and repentent remoaner
Whether it's a smart thing for Harry to do, is another question. One that I will NOT rely upon the Daily Mail to judge.
BTW, the Daily Mail tabloid TV show aired from coast to coast here is notably WAY less Harry-phobic than it's parent "organ". Indeed, rather pro Harry & Meghan, as it is aimed NOT at Blimplish-liverish geezers, but at a younger, hipper demographic.
Only about 5% of Finnish media - much less of social media - is in Swedish, so it’s not a great help.
Her eldest offspring, less so.
Those who live by popularity contests die by popularity contests.
But the quote wasn’t Williams! It was Dick Emery.
For Kemi promising “not row back on net zero” being described as a big u turn, whilst peat restoration is Sunak’s “pet project” Truss is leading a delegation to Canada in December as our PM, Tom was once on the side of more sewage pollution, but now thinks his voting on that stinks
She's been exposed as being an empty vessel over the last few days and I think a fair few of her votes will move to Rishi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedgwood_Rock
Rishi v Truss final two looking increasingly nailed on, which is the perfect outcome.
God that was shit.
It's the heat.
With her immature teen-like ideas and approach to politics (Kemi is certainly the heir to Gove) its hard to know what Sunak will do with her when PM, Education probably, unless he has disguised how much he dislikes her and her politics in which case Health.
And the problem is that the party is quite close to a three way split right now, so no faction can afford to lend tactical votes to another without seeing themselves eliminated.
(since leon isn't here)
(It's actually cancelled tomorrow).
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L77648/2022-07-18/detailed
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6807012,-122.2975725,3a,75y,18.02h,86.36t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sO0TcMGgCLKd4m7IT1BFHnQ!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?panoid=O0TcMGgCLKd4m7IT1BFHnQ&cb_client=maps_sv.tactile.gps&w=203&h=100&yaw=21.581028&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e4
Though there are bigger ones - appreciable fractions of square kms in size - big enough to quarry, known in Scotland, and I'm sure still bigger ones elsewhere.
She is absolute rubbish. She can’t speak. Has no presentational style, charisma or substance. She can’t think on her feet. She turns voters off. There is absolutely nothing there you can say is a good facet or characteristic, let alone makes her better than the other four candidates.
I’m trying to work out how intelligent person with an interest in politics can publicly post what you have just. What is the punchline?
I am quite green on Truss and a doubly good outcome for me as I think she will be an electoral liability very quickly.