No idea if we'll be asked to wfh, though if I'm at home I'll be looking after our 3 month old who I expect will be very stroppy in the heat...
Crikey, I hadn’t thought of parents with tiny babies. That will be tough. Good luck
Cheer, we'll obviously do our best.
Rabbits also a concern tbh - the cats will absolubtely love it.
Babies don’t like heat. It’s a real concern. And, yes, pets. Dogs will have to be walked at midnight
Keep them cool and naked other than the nappy.
People overestimate the risk to health from heat whenever it happens. Its not as dangerous as the cold, yet we don't hyperventilate about winter happening to the same extent. Far more people will die this winter than this summer.
Leicester will be pretty bad. We are a long way from the coast, and the city sits in a shallow bowl, with no wind and a petrochemical haze when we get a high pressure sitting over us. The hospital isn't air-conditioned (apart from a few management offices and the operating theatres). It will be pretty hellish...
Make a ghetto AC with a coolbox, big slabs of ice, usb fan and ducting. Replace the Ice as needed, I made one at uni kept it for 5 or 6 years afterwards while I was living in a shared house in Camden. We'd set it up in the main room and everyone would just relax there whenever there was a heatwave. Successfully lowers the temperature of a medium sized room by enough to make it comfortable.
Wishful thinking I fear. If they've gone off Rishi the members will have a non Boris alternative even if they dont like his intervention. They wouldn't need to react against even a continuity Boris.
Make a ghetto AC with a coolbox, big slabs of ice, usb fan and ducting. Replace the Ice as needed, I made one at uni kept it for 5 or 6 years afterwards while I was living in a shared house in Camden. We'd set it up in the main room and everyone would just relax there whenever there was a heatwave. Successfully lowers the temperature of a medium sized room by enough to make it comfortable.
For the fan part, Honeywell fan on amazon for about £25 is extremely good. I use it when i am on my indoor trainer bike.
Leicester will be pretty bad. We are a long way from the coast, and the city sits in a shallow bowl, with no wind and a petrochemical haze when we get a high pressure sitting over us. The hospital isn't air-conditioned (apart from a few management offices and the operating theatres). It will be pretty hellish...
🚨EXCLUSIVE: Penny Mordaunt could be our next PM in eight weeks time. She sat down with me in her first TV interview. We talked dirty tricks, trans issues, tax & spend and whether the prospect of being PM scares her
She sits down with Death Rigby for a serious interview? That probably costs her a few votes in the next round.
Who has the guts to call Andrew Neil, or even Emma Barnett?
Emma Barnett is good but Andrew Neil is a poor interviewer now. It is all about himself and far too aggressive. People are far more revealing of their true selves with a more amenable interviewer gently probing and giving time for people to reply.
Emma is the rising star, but Andrew is the gold standard. My favourite long-form interviewer is still Stephen Sackur on BBC World’s Hard Talk. He does one interview a week, and clearly spends a lot of time researching it. But he attracts world leaders. Sadly, his interviews get very little traction in the UK.
The paradox is that of all those remaining (pun there), Lizzy Lightweight is the only one that would guarantee me voting LD (or poss even Labour) at the next GE. She is continuity Bozo. How the feck can someone genuinely go on a political journey from LD to Tory remainer and then to being the darling of the ERG? Like Johnson she is a liar, a chancer. Worse than that she is a hopeless lightweight too.
Errr, have you never heard of the zeal of the convert?
I went from Lab in my first election to Tory Remainer to ERG-style views (only on the issue of Europe, I dislike much of the ERG on other issue).
Williamglenn and RochdalePioneers have equally been on journeys too.
I find it hard to trust people who haven't been on political journeys. It implies like with Jezza Corbyn that they're too thick to think through the issues and so have stuck with their ossified views from decades ago regardless of what has changed since then.
I know, you have told us about your "conversion". Sorry, but seeing your reactionary views on here, I don't believe it. I am suspicious that you think it adds credibility to your belief in the fairytale of Brexit. It doesn't. As for Williamglenn, well, it is so ludicrous a volte face I think someone has nicked his account.
You're really stupid, aren't you? You're as thick as Corbyn, unable to think beyond one dimension caricatures which is why you don't understand how smarter people than you change their minds over time.
I didn't tell anyone about my "conversion". I've been posting here for fifteen years, people know I was making pro-Remain arguments until 2016.
You not believing that is as ridiculous as someone now claiming Williamglenn was never pro-Remain. 🤦♂️
In fact, it would be strange if no one changed their mind about anything.
Pre- GFC, I was very much slash and burn the State, pro-big business. But, the behaviour of banks and big corporations, has very much soured my outlook towards them.
Big business and the state are very similar in many ways.
Reading the Mitrokhin Archive, I was struck by the feeling that (I was working at Citi Bank) the style of of the bureaucracy was very similar - a huge pyramid of make work bullshit.
Which is why I giggle when I hear people extolling the state and lambasting Evul Corp. Or vice versa.
The big the corp, the closer it gets to regulatory capture (too big to fail) and becomes a part of the State.
Of course. But they both do the difficult things nobody else can, or wants to. Hard for mom and pop to search the web, finance a fleet of aircraft, or maintain motorways.
Penny has given very sensible answers to Rigby on trans stuff. She comes across as compassionate and moderate. No wonder the Daily Mail hates her.
She has. BR is only asking her what she thinks now though not gotchaing her about yebbut you said this in 2019.
Its very odd as Death Rigby is normally all about stupid gotcha journalism, so her doing otherwise now is glaringly different.
Sky really seem to have an editorial line of pushing Mordaunt all week this week. Never really seen such a one sided line on broadcast TV, its normally only newspapers that do that.
No idea if we'll be asked to wfh, though if I'm at home I'll be looking after our 3 month old who I expect will be very stroppy in the heat...
Crikey, I hadn’t thought of parents with tiny babies. That will be tough. Good luck
Cheer, we'll obviously do our best.
Rabbits also a concern tbh - the cats will absolubtely love it.
Babies don’t like heat. It’s a real concern. And, yes, pets. Dogs will have to be walked at midnight
Keep them cool and naked other than the nappy.
People overestimate the risk to health from heat whenever it happens. Its not as dangerous as the cold, yet we don't hyperventilate about winter happening to the same extent. Far more people will die this winter than this summer.
Two hours ago you were saying ‘stop moaning, just enjoy the heat’
Okay guys, instead of wild hysteria, some serious advice for coping with extreme temperatures.
Assuming you don’t have air-con at home, keep South-facing windows closed and covered, from the outside if possible. Don’t open windows unless its windy outside. Drink lots of water. Use an electric fan, dehumidifier, HEPA filter etc, if you have one. Keep internal doors and curtains closed during the day.
Consider spending the heat of the day (midday-4pm ish) in your car (in the shade), or an air-conditioned building such as an office, shopping mall or large bar. If you go anywhere in your car, take a gallon of drinking water in case of accident or breakdown.
Don’t exercise outdoors, even if you consider it part of your routine.
Wearing a cold and wet t-shirt (no sniggering!) can also help cool you down. Otherwise, cotton underwear and as little additional clothing as is decent.
If it’s humid, don’t go outside for more than a few minutes. The body cannot sweat if the air temperature is higher than the body temperature and humidity is high. This WILL kill you.
Remember to check on elderly and vulnerable people you know, make sure they understand the above. Watch each other for symptoms of sunstroke and heat exhaustion. Children are also more affected by heat, make sure they’re wearing sunscreen if running around the garden. Don’t forget the dog, give them lots of water and don’t go for long walks.
Why are you such a snowflake?
Hmmm.
Man who has experience of living in a place where it gets to 40c+ gives standard advice on what to do when the temperature gets to 40c.
That's a snowflakey as suggesting changing your engine oil at the intervals suggested in the handbook.
Far too much about the race, not nearly enough about her policies but PM will be pretty happy with that interview. She came across as articulate, measured and positive.
I agree with Mike. One of Sunak's greatest weaknesses was that he did not offer as clean a break from the morass that the Boris government became as the other candidates, Penny in particular. By ostracising him and making clear that he is not continuity Boris in any way he is doing Rishi a favour.
However it does nothing to alter the basics: For the Tories Rishi is dangerous to appoint because of his decision to stay at No 11 for 6 months after the government and PM were plainly morally compromised. + Non Dom, Green Card and all that.
However Labour still look competent enough, and a Lab/LD government would be a reasonable way forward. Appointing Rishi will progress that outcome.
BTW a Lab/LD government would break no current promises by offering (after the election, with a manifesto promising to review options) a negotiation and referendum on EFTA/EEA membership, and dilute the appeal of the SNP at the same time.
The problem facing Truss is that she is a charisma-free zone.
Voters won't give her the benefit of the doubt or vote for her. I'm sure the Swing voter focus groups being carried out now are producing similar results. Brexiteers seem to have a curious blind spot about this.
Ultimately, she just looks a bit - odd. For similar reasons to May, voters won't go for Truss. It's not fair but it is modern politics.
Mordaunt has different problems. She would be vulnerable to attacks on economic competence at the next election - which is electoral kryptonite for the Conservative party.
It's a bit of a poisoned chalice. I'm sure Raab and Patel have an eye on a run in 2025.
Raab has to hold his seat first
He's backed Sunak, perhaps if he wins he can help Raab chicken run to another seat.
Wasted a few quids in the last 24 hours making shitty trades whilst trying to make my mind up, but I'm going to keep my Kemi position at c. 30/1 for now, even at the cost of £40-£50 extra profit.
I like her, think she could do well in debates, and I'm not 100% sure all the ERG will follow her advice.
Okay guys, instead of wild hysteria, some serious advice for coping with extreme temperatures.
Assuming you don’t have air-con at home, keep South-facing windows closed and covered, from the outside if possible. Don’t open windows unless its windy outside. Drink lots of water. Use an electric fan, dehumidifier, HEPA filter etc, if you have one. Keep internal doors and curtains closed during the day.
Consider spending the heat of the day (midday-4pm ish) in your car (in the shade), or an air-conditioned building such as an office, shopping mall or large bar. If you go anywhere in your car, take a gallon of drinking water in case of accident or breakdown.
Don’t exercise outdoors, even if you consider it part of your routine.
Wearing a cold and wet t-shirt (no sniggering!) can also help cool you down. Otherwise, cotton underwear and as little additional clothing as is decent.
If it’s humid, don’t go outside for more than a few minutes. The body cannot sweat if the air temperature is higher than the body temperature and humidity is high. This WILL kill you.
Remember to check on elderly and vulnerable people you know, make sure they understand the above. Watch each other for symptoms of sunstroke and heat exhaustion. Children are also more affected by heat, make sure they’re wearing sunscreen if running around the garden. Don’t forget the dog, give them lots of water and don’t go for long walks.
Why are you such a snowflake?
Hmmm.
Man who has experience of living in a place where it gets to 40c+ gives standard advice on what to do when the temperature gets to 40c.
That's a snowflakey as suggesting changing your engine oil at the intervals suggested in the handbook.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
The paradox is that of all those remaining (pun there), Lizzy Lightweight is the only one that would guarantee me voting LD (or poss even Labour) at the next GE. She is continuity Bozo. How the feck can someone genuinely go on a political journey from LD to Tory remainer and then to being the darling of the ERG? Like Johnson she is a liar, a chancer. Worse than that she is a hopeless lightweight too.
Errr, have you never heard of the zeal of the convert?
I went from Lab in my first election to Tory Remainer to ERG-style views (only on the issue of Europe, I dislike much of the ERG on other issue).
Williamglenn and RochdalePioneers have equally been on journeys too.
I find it hard to trust people who haven't been on political journeys. It implies like with Jezza Corbyn that they're too thick to think through the issues and so have stuck with their ossified views from decades ago regardless of what has changed since then.
I know, you have told us about your "conversion". Sorry, but seeing your reactionary views on here, I don't believe it. I am suspicious that you think it adds credibility to your belief in the fairytale of Brexit. It doesn't. As for Williamglenn, well, it is so ludicrous a volte face I think someone has nicked his account.
You're really stupid, aren't you? You're as thick as Corbyn, unable to think beyond one dimension caricatures which is why you don't understand how smarter people than you change their minds over time.
I didn't tell anyone about my "conversion". I've been posting here for fifteen years, people know I was making pro-Remain arguments until 2016.
You not believing that is as ridiculous as someone now claiming Williamglenn was never pro-Remain. 🤦♂️
In fact, it would be strange if no one changed their mind about anything.
Pre- GFC, I was very much slash and burn the State, pro-big business. But, the behaviour of banks and big corporations, has very much soured my outlook towards them.
Big business and the state are very similar in many ways.
Reading the Mitrokhin Archive, I was struck by the feeling that (I was working at Citi Bank) the style of of the bureaucracy was very similar - a huge pyramid of make work bullshit.
Which is why I giggle when I hear people extolling the state and lambasting Evul Corp. Or vice versa.
The big the corp, the closer it gets to regulatory capture (too big to fail) and becomes a part of the State.
Of course. But they both do the difficult things nobody else can, or wants to. Hard for mom and pop to search the web, finance a fleet of aircraft, or maintain motorways.
Big Organisations are Like Fire, a Dangerous Servant and a Fearful Master.
No idea if we'll be asked to wfh, though if I'm at home I'll be looking after our 3 month old who I expect will be very stroppy in the heat...
Crikey, I hadn’t thought of parents with tiny babies. That will be tough. Good luck
Cheer, we'll obviously do our best.
Rabbits also a concern tbh - the cats will absolubtely love it.
Babies don’t like heat. It’s a real concern. And, yes, pets. Dogs will have to be walked at midnight
Keep them cool and naked other than the nappy.
People overestimate the risk to health from heat whenever it happens. Its not as dangerous as the cold, yet we don't hyperventilate about winter happening to the same extent. Far more people will die this winter than this summer.
Two hours ago you were saying ‘stop moaning, just enjoy the heat’
Yes and I'm still saying that.
Quit moaning. Take sensible precautions and enjoy the heat.
Don't hyperventilate about the "danger" of weather that is less dangerous than our normal weather much of the year.
Boom, red warning. Not just London - Manchester and Birmingham caught up too.
Even Scotland has some Amber now.
I think we need some broadcasts from RNLI / Coastguard/Ambulance at this point. Maybe waiting till this evening?
And attack helicopters gunning down anyone seen in the open on Monday and Tuesday
This thread sounds like the 1950s, has nobody here ever been anywhere hotter than Calais?
I've been in Missouri in the summer, fairly consistently in the high 30s (Celsius), but the difference was that every house I went to had air conditioning, they had public buildings with air conditioning that were designated cool zones for people without air conditioning at home, all the cars had air conditioning, etc. The built infrastructure in the UK is not designed for such heat. That's the difference.
And I have spent two weeks in an open jeep in Kenya's NFD about 300 miles from the nearest air conditioning unit. drink water, keep out of the sun and do as little as possible. Not rocket science.
The point of the warning is to encourage people to make those adjustments. Otherwise lots of people will try to act like it's a normal day and come to grief.
On the trans women in refuges stuff, Penny says: we should have a plurality - some that do allow trans women and some that don’t.
On the gender neutral / unisex loos question, she says I’m a small stater - it’s no business of government how pubs and restaurants arrange their lavatories
No idea if we'll be asked to wfh, though if I'm at home I'll be looking after our 3 month old who I expect will be very stroppy in the heat...
Crikey, I hadn’t thought of parents with tiny babies. That will be tough. Good luck
Cheer, we'll obviously do our best.
Rabbits also a concern tbh - the cats will absolubtely love it.
Babies don’t like heat. It’s a real concern. And, yes, pets. Dogs will have to be walked at midnight
Keep them cool and naked other than the nappy.
People overestimate the risk to health from heat whenever it happens. Its not as dangerous as the cold, yet we don't hyperventilate about winter happening to the same extent. Far more people will die this winter than this summer.
Two hours ago you were saying ‘stop moaning, just enjoy the heat’
Yes and I'm still saying that.
Quit moaning. Take sensible precautions and enjoy the heat.
Don't hyperventilate about the "danger" of weather that is less dangerous than our normal weather much of the year.
On the trans women in refuges stuff, Penny says: we should have a plurality - some that do allow trans women and some that don’t.
On the gender neutral / unisex loos question, she says I’m a small stater - it’s no business of government how pubs and restaurants arrange their lavatories
Leicester will be pretty bad. We are a long way from the coast, and the city sits in a shallow bowl, with no wind and a petrochemical haze when we get a high pressure sitting over us. The hospital isn't air-conditioned (apart from a few management offices and the operating theatres). It will be pretty hellish...
Your hospital… has no aircon??
That seems incredible to me. Good luck
Mrs Foxy works in theatres, so will be deliciously cool all day. Outpatients will be a heaving mass, and is on the sunny side of the building too, but that's where I will be.
Seersucker suit and lots of cool drinks is my plan.
🚨EXCLUSIVE: Penny Mordaunt could be our next PM in eight weeks time. She sat down with me in her first TV interview. We talked dirty tricks, trans issues, tax & spend and whether the prospect of being PM scares her
She sits down with Death Rigby for a serious interview? That probably costs her a few votes in the next round.
Who has the guts to call Andrew Neil, or even Emma Barnett?
Emma Barnett is good but Andrew Neil is a poor interviewer now. It is all about himself and far too aggressive. People are far more revealing of their true selves with a more amenable interviewer gently probing and giving time for people to reply.
Unfortunately Neil fell into the same trap as Paxman. They ended up becoming caricatures of themselves, playing the role rather than starting from the position of trying to understand the interviewee or learn something from them.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
That’s basically my plan, too. Hunker down
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
Boom, red warning. Not just London - Manchester and Birmingham caught up too.
Even Scotland has some Amber now.
I think we need some broadcasts from RNLI / Coastguard/Ambulance at this point. Maybe waiting till this evening?
And attack helicopters gunning down anyone seen in the open on Monday and Tuesday
This thread sounds like the 1950s, has nobody here ever been anywhere hotter than Calais?
I've been in Missouri in the summer, fairly consistently in the high 30s (Celsius), but the difference was that every house I went to had air conditioning, they had public buildings with air conditioning that were designated cool zones for people without air conditioning at home, all the cars had air conditioning, etc. The built infrastructure in the UK is not designed for such heat. That's the difference.
And I have spent two weeks in an open jeep in Kenya's NFD about 300 miles from the nearest air conditioning unit. drink water, keep out of the sun and do as little as possible. Not rocket science.
The point of the warning is to encourage people to make those adjustments. Otherwise lots of people will try to act like it's a normal day and come to grief.
The Daily Mail comments are instructive. Best rated are all about stop moaning and enjoy the lovely day at the beach. Worst rated refer to climate change.
Boom, red warning. Not just London - Manchester and Birmingham caught up too.
Even Scotland has some Amber now.
I think we need some broadcasts from RNLI / Coastguard/Ambulance at this point. Maybe waiting till this evening?
And attack helicopters gunning down anyone seen in the open on Monday and Tuesday
This thread sounds like the 1950s, has nobody here ever been anywhere hotter than Calais?
I've been in Missouri in the summer, fairly consistently in the high 30s (Celsius), but the difference was that every house I went to had air conditioning, they had public buildings with air conditioning that were designated cool zones for people without air conditioning at home, all the cars had air conditioning, etc. The built infrastructure in the UK is not designed for such heat. That's the difference.
And I have spent two weeks in an open jeep in Kenya's NFD about 300 miles from the nearest air conditioning unit. drink water, keep out of the sun and do as little as possible. Not rocket science.
The point of the warning is to encourage people to make those adjustments. Otherwise lots of people will try to act like it's a normal day and come to grief.
Yes. If half of London thinks “it’s gonna be hot and sunny, let’s all go to Brighton”, then Brighton hospital will be over-run and there will be deaths. They need to say today that Brighton beach will be closed on Monday and Tuesday.
If he wanted to do anything messy as a toddler (e.g. paints, play-doh), then I would put it in the tray for him to play with, stopping the mess getting onto the carpet.
And on hot summer days, I'd put a load of ice in it, and he would play with the ice as it melted, stacking ice cubes, creating lakes and dams.
We still use them for things like Lego sets, to avoid losing pieces. And if they need to be moved in order to vacuum, we just move the tray and everything on it.
Leicester will be pretty bad. We are a long way from the coast, and the city sits in a shallow bowl, with no wind and a petrochemical haze when we get a high pressure sitting over us. The hospital isn't air-conditioned (apart from a few management offices and the operating theatres). It will be pretty hellish...
Your hospital… has no aircon??
That seems incredible to me. Good luck
When my Uncle was in a very new hospital in Birmingham, the complete lack of temperature control caused him quite a bit of distress. The building wasn't cheap, but had been designed without bothering to consider the needs of
- The patients - The doctors - The nurses
But hey, the architects probably won an award.
I am a big fan of passively cooled buildings - when you have some height, it is very easy to build in some chimney effects.
The most insane one I've seen recently, was a hotel atrium in London. On a very hot day, recently, heat was pouring up the building. You could literally feel the hot air pushing out, at the doors to the bar on the roof. A couple of panels in the atrium glass roof with powered opening - tilt one end up a foot, say - and the hot air would have been replaced by a nice fresh breeze through the building.....
Poor Penny is coming across as far too sensible for the current incarnation of the Tory Party. I hope she gets it but I am starting to get a little worried.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Rigby makes the point that Penny would be the first single PM since Heath.
Wasn't Johnson briefly single while PM?
QTWAIN. He was unmarried but not single.
Mordaunt was married, but divorced shortly after, so the same situation.
Not the same situation at all, Boris was in a relationship with Carrie the entire time he's been in Downing Street, he wasn't single the entire time. Indeed Boris seems to be someone who is almost never single since he starts his next relationship before the last one has been terminated.
AFAIK Mordaunt is single, she is not in a relationship.
Poor Penny is coming across as far too sensible for the current incarnation of the Tory Party. I hope she gets it but I am starting to get a little worried.
Currently members say they like her. She can probably get away with sensible. So long as she gives some red meat too.
Same way if people like you you can be a lot more radical than someone they dont like.
The bottom line is that any new Tory leader has to deal with the Tory right. You either have to win their support or dominate them. Note that Boris succeeded because he simultaneously did both. May was crushed by them. Arguably Cameron too.
Mourdant or Sunak will be battling them throughout their Premierships. Do they have the strength to overcome them? That’s not clear today, but what is obvious is that they have no choice now but to take them on.
The truly insane thing is that both Sunak and Mordaunt are of the right, and clearly so. The other wing of Centrist One Nation Tories has long been purged.
The one consistent aspect of this contest is that the Tories are swinging to the right. It’s just a question of how far. Cameronism is loooong dead. Today it’s all about tax cuts and scapegoats.
That is not a correct reading of Mordaunt.
There's a reason Labour fear her. And it is not because she is a one-size-fits-all right wing loon.
I don’t think Labour should fear her. She is an empty vessel and it looks like her own party will do for her.
I still think that she is the best chance of Tories maintaining a majority. In order of probability of winning the next GE, I would put:
Mordaunt Sunak Tugenhadt Truss Badenoch
With Mordaunt the only one above the waterline of a majority.
I think your analysis is spot on.
Con Maj starts to look value if Mordaunt wins.
I would put Badenoch ahead of Truss, she is less experienced but Truss is the least electable of the candidates remaining
Everyone loves Penny now, even HY 😋
Bye Bye PM Starmer part one Penny’s in Heaven say the Papers. 😇 She really is the media’s darling. (And according to polling and focus groups, the electorate are in love with her too)
Bye Bye PM Starmer part two The economic crisis the reds were hoping could sneak them into office, is coming to an end. As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. Penny Mordaunt already a lucky PM?
Gas isn’t going to fall any time soon (the major inflationary driver) and the weak dollar means petrol prices will stay high. Food prices are still going to be high for as long as the UA war goes on. Labour supply is still short (as can be seen by the airports). I’d quite like it all to go away soon for personal reasons, but I think it’s fantasy to believe it so.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
Leicester will be pretty bad. We are a long way from the coast, and the city sits in a shallow bowl, with no wind and a petrochemical haze when we get a high pressure sitting over us. The hospital isn't air-conditioned (apart from a few management offices and the operating theatres). It will be pretty hellish...
Your hospital… has no aircon??
That seems incredible to me. Good luck
When my Uncle was in a very new hospital in Birmingham, the complete lack of temperature control caused him quite a bit of distress. The building wasn't cheap, but had been designed without bothering to consider the needs of
- The patients - The doctors - The nurses
But hey, the architects probably won an award.
I am a big fan of passively cooled buildings - when you have some height, it is very easy to build in some chimney effects.
The most insane one I've seen recently, was a hotel atrium in London. On a very hot day, recently, heat was pouring up the building. You could literally feel the hot air pushing out, at the doors to the bar on the roof. A couple of panels in the atrium glass roof with powered opening - tilt one end up a foot, say - and the hot air would have been replaced by a nice fresh breeze through the building.....
The modern version of the traditional Arabian windcatcher.
Hot air rises, so pressurise your building and put a vent in the roof.
Worst building i visted was a university department where each floor had an inner central open plan offices which had glass roofs like a greenhouse and glass walls all round. Walkway around each was surrounded by other smaller offices to the outside world, which were all glass....
What you have done their is make a greenhouses inside a greenhouse....
I imagine great for growing tomatoes, less so growing PhD students.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
That’s basically my plan, too. Hunker down
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
40C is simply grim
Stay hydrated and remember that alcohol dehydrates you.
In Aus we'd regularly have 40C+ days and the grown ups (I was a child) would drink beer outside in that weather, but would drink lots of water too. People in this country haven't always grasped that concept.
If you're drinking alcohol in the heat, have one glass of water for every glass of alcohol. That will help prevent the headaches and dizziness.
Gas isn’t going to fall any time soon (the major inflationary driver) and the weak dollar means petrol prices will stay high. Food prices are still going to be high for as long as the UA war goes on. Labour supply is still short (as can be seen by the airports). I’d quite like it all to go away soon for personal reasons, but I think it’s fantasy to believe it so.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
Weak dollar? The dollar is stronger than it’s been in decades, now at parity with the Euro at below £1.20.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
What she is really saying is that I am not interested in my government fighting culture wars instead of getting on with the very difficult job of running the country. Which gets a big tick from me.
🚨EXCLUSIVE: Penny Mordaunt could be our next PM in eight weeks time. She sat down with me in her first TV interview. We talked dirty tricks, trans issues, tax & spend and whether the prospect of being PM scares her
She sits down with Death Rigby for a serious interview? That probably costs her a few votes in the next round.
Who has the guts to call Andrew Neil, or even Emma Barnett?
Emma Barnett is good but Andrew Neil is a poor interviewer now. It is all about himself and far too aggressive. People are far more revealing of their true selves with a more amenable interviewer gently probing and giving time for people to reply.
Gas isn’t going to fall any time soon (the major inflationary driver) and the weak dollar means petrol prices will stay high. Food prices are still going to be high for as long as the UA war goes on. Labour supply is still short (as can be seen by the airports). I’d quite like it all to go away soon for personal reasons, but I think it’s fantasy to believe it so.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
Weak dollar? The dollar is stronger than it’s been in decades, now at parity with the Euro at below £1.20.
It is the strength of the dollar that is adding that rather painful twist to our domestic inflation.
Yes Stephen Sackur’s hard talk interviews are excellent. Proper old school journalism. Knows when to interrupt and challenge - and when to shut up and let the guest talk. A real skill. He doesn’t make it about himself, either, which is a trap that most of these high profile interviewers seem to fall into.
Worst building i visted was a university department where each floor had an inner central open plan offices which had glass roofs like a greenhouse and glass walls all round. Walkway around each was surrounded by other smaller offices to the outside world, which were all glass....
What you have done their is make a greenhouses inside a greenhouse....
I imagine great for growing tomatoes, less so growing PhD students.
Is the Cambridge History Library still a thing? A friend of mine lived in Fenland City and studied there in the summer hols - I remember him telling me about its sun-concentrating design, two blocks at an angle reflecting onto the inner quarter-domed reading room.
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
I am not sure this has anything to do with Brexit or his views on it. I think it is twofold. Firstly there is a lot of disquiet about how he handled the economics of Covid and the subsequent massive tax rises. Secondly there is anger in some quarters about his role in the final defeat of Johnson.
I am not sure I agree with his critics on either of these though I do think his handling of the pandemic economics was flawed - it is terribly easy to throw money at problems and then claim afterwards there was no alternative. His part in getting rid of Johnson, though clearly self serving, was a small plus in my book. But I just don't think he has what it takes to be PM. He is always seeking the easy solutions to problems even if they are a long way from being the best ones.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
That’s basically my plan, too. Hunker down
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
40C is simply grim
Stay hydrated and remember that alcohol dehydrates you.
In Aus we'd regularly have 40C+ days and the grown ups (I was a child) would drink beer outside in that weather, but would drink lots of water too. People in this country haven't always grasped that concept.
If you're drinking alcohol in the heat, have one glass of water for every glass of alcohol. That will help prevent the headaches and dizziness.
I'm sure that some of the student pubs I drank in wayback, that was the norm, except you didn't know at the time!
Yes Stephen Sackur’s hard talk interviews are excellent. Proper old school journalism. Knows when to interrupt and challenge - and when to shut up and let the guest talk. A real skill. He doesn’t make it about himself, either, which is a trap that most of these high profile interviewers seem to fall into.
Stephen Sackur vs war criminal Gotabaya Rajapaksa. Class vs cretin!
It's funny that Sunak is being criticised for his Covid-onomics on here when IIRC it was only @contrarian who from the getgo foresaw the eventual situation we're in now.
The bottom line is that any new Tory leader has to deal with the Tory right. You either have to win their support or dominate them. Note that Boris succeeded because he simultaneously did both. May was crushed by them. Arguably Cameron too.
Mourdant or Sunak will be battling them throughout their Premierships. Do they have the strength to overcome them? That’s not clear today, but what is obvious is that they have no choice now but to take them on.
The truly insane thing is that both Sunak and Mordaunt are of the right, and clearly so. The other wing of Centrist One Nation Tories has long been purged.
The one consistent aspect of this contest is that the Tories are swinging to the right. It’s just a question of how far. Cameronism is loooong dead. Today it’s all about tax cuts and scapegoats.
That is not a correct reading of Mordaunt.
There's a reason Labour fear her. And it is not because she is a one-size-fits-all right wing loon.
I don’t think Labour should fear her. She is an empty vessel and it looks like her own party will do for her.
I still think that she is the best chance of Tories maintaining a majority. In order of probability of winning the next GE, I would put:
Mordaunt Sunak Tugenhadt Truss Badenoch
With Mordaunt the only one above the waterline of a majority.
I think your analysis is spot on.
Con Maj starts to look value if Mordaunt wins.
I would put Badenoch ahead of Truss, she is less experienced but Truss is the least electable of the candidates remaining
Everyone loves Penny now, even HY 😋
Bye Bye PM Starmer part one Penny’s in Heaven say the Papers. 😇 She really is the media’s darling. (And according to polling and focus groups, the electorate are in love with her too)
Bye Bye PM Starmer part two The economic crisis the reds were hoping could sneak them into office, is coming to an end. As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. Penny Mordaunt already a lucky PM?
Gas isn’t going to fall any time soon (the major inflationary driver) and the weak dollar means petrol prices will stay high. Food prices are still going to be high for as long as the UA war goes on. Labour supply is still short (as can be seen by the airports). I’d quite like it all to go away soon for personal reasons, but I think it’s fantasy to believe it so.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
The Dollar is strong, not weak.
The rate at which natural gas wells/trains are coming back on line in the US is quite impressive.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Except that, as Cyclefree pointed out on the previous thread, that is in contradiction to Mordaunt's previous on-the-record stance on such trans issues and, more importantly, her complete denial Boris-style that she ever took those positions, together with her discredited denial of positions on other issues.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
Worst building i visted was a university department where each floor had an inner central open plan offices which had glass roofs like a greenhouse and glass walls all round. Walkway around each was surrounded by other smaller offices to the outside world, which were all glass....
What you have done their is make a greenhouses inside a greenhouse....
I imagine great for growing tomatoes, less so growing PhD students.
Some architects have a great vision involving light. Sadly not so much vision about human use of the building.
I had an argument with a lecturer once as there was this hotel with a confusing architecture such that people struggled to find the entrance. They were fans of buildings as art, while I maintained it might be good art but it was still a crap building given its purpose as a hotel.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Except that, as Cyclefree pointed out on the previous thread, that is in contradiction to Mordaunt's previous on-the-record stance on such trans issues and, more importantly, her complete denial Boris-style that she ever took those positions, together with her discredited denial of positions on other issues.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
Worst building i visted was a university department where each floor had an inner central open plan offices which had glass roofs like a greenhouse and glass walls all round. Walkway around each was surrounded by other smaller offices to the outside world, which were all glass....
What you have done their is make a greenhouses inside a greenhouse....
I imagine great for growing tomatoes, less so growing PhD students.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
What she is really saying is that I am not interested in my government fighting culture wars instead of getting on with the very difficult job of running the country. Which gets a big tick from me.
It sounds good, but when she finds a difficult problem and needs a distraction?
I think it was Woolie that posted, the libdems were getting bigger swings from Tory’s in blue wall again this week, than the midling con>Lab lab getting in redwall - did this leap out to you too as you were doing your analysis James?
It's funny that Sunak is being criticised for his Covid-onomics on here when IIRC it was only @contrarian who from the getgo foresaw the eventual situation we're in now.
Hold on a minute, I remember raising a lot of objections around the furlough scheme being as generous as it was and the seemingly unlimited extensions that kept being given. It should have been lesser funded and ended in April 2021 once we came out of lockdown. I was also unconvinced around the idea of just giving out loans to any "business" that asked for one without requiring proof that it actually traded and that it existed for at least some amount of time before COVID started. Additionally I'm also pretty sure I said that the self-employment grants were far, far too generous and impossible to properly police and should have been done as reclaimable rebate by HMRC depending on full year income vs previous year income.
There were a lot of people worrying about the eventual COVID bill at the time, you and I included.
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
I am not sure this has anything to do with Brexit or his views on it. I think it is twofold. Firstly there is a lot of disquiet about how he handled the economics of Covid and the subsequent massive tax rises. Secondly there is anger in some quarters about his role in the final defeat of Johnson..
There does seem to be something of an overlap between those calling Sunak a 'traitor', and hard line Brexit views, though.
Whether that's a causal link is another matter. The hatred out there borders on irrational - spend a few minutes looking at #NeverRishiSunak on Twitter.
Heat question: closing blinds obviously makes sense (is that south-facing only or all windows?) but is it worth closing curtains?
Here's the technique to keep your house as cool as possible (assuming it is not air conditioned). This works in a quite well insulated new build, your mileage may vary in older properties.
1. From early in the morning have everything opened to get air blowing through 2. As soon as the sun hits your sun-facing windows in the morning close them up along with any blinds, curtains etc. that you have 3. When the outside temperature reaches that inside the house close all the remaining windows along with blinds, curtains etc. 4. Keep everything closed and try and avoid opening anything to let the hot air in 5. In the evening when the outside temperature drops below the temperature inside then open everything back up again
You have to be really strict on following this. Like opening the door of your house on a freezing cold day will let the cold in, the same is true in reverse on these hot days.
I am considering in the future installing shutters on our windows. They would make a big difference and there is a very good reason they are quite common on the continent.
Penny's answers on trans issues were spot on, she's clearly been reading my posts.
She'd get us off these pointless wars and onto actual policies again. She must win.
She will win. She has the big Mo. Media and the country have chosen her as our PM.
So Boris Johnson gone, Penny as PM, do we really need to elect the party of Richard Burgon, long Bailey, dianne Abbott, Sultana etc etc etc to the government benches now? Starmer is both funded by the Trade Unions and has made no effort at all to purge all these people out of his party.
Heat question: closing blinds obviously makes sense (is that south-facing only or all windows?) but is it worth closing curtains?
It's different for different temperatures, what you need to do is stop hot outside to cool inside heat gradients, be that air temperature or sun through window caused, and encourage hot inside to cool outside heat gradients.
But be aware that a bit of breeze can fool the senses as to what the gradient is.
So, shut particularly sun and heat facing curtains, shut all windows as soon as the day warms above the indoor temperature, know and stay in your most comfortable downstairs room (in my case a NW facing kitchen), move air around indoors. Then open things up later in the evening away from the sun and overnight if feasible once it cools sufficiently.
I have upstairs, south facing dormer bedrooms, and anything above 25C I'm active in opening and shutting curtains and windows at the appropriate times.
It's funny that Sunak is being criticised for his Covid-onomics on here when IIRC it was only @contrarian who from the getgo foresaw the eventual situation we're in now.
Hold on a minute, I remember raising a lot of objections around the furlough scheme being as generous as it was and the seemingly unlimited extensions that kept being given. It should have been lesser funded and ended in April 2021 once we came out of lockdown. I was also unconvinced around the idea of just giving out loans to any "business" that asked for one without requiring proof that it actually traded and that it existed for at least some amount of time before COVID started. Additionally I'm also pretty sure I said that the self-employment grants were far, far too generous and impossible to properly police and should have been done as reclaimable rebate by HMRC depending on full year income vs previous year income.
There were a lot of people worrying about the eventual COVID bill at the time, you and I included.
Yes, there were plenty of critiques of implementation of policies which otherwise had broad support.
Very few were arguing we shouldn't have done testing, or intervened to help businesses. But quite a few have said we've wasted billions on ill considered means of carrying out those things.
(Though of course testing was hardly Sunak's responsibility.)
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Except that, as Cyclefree pointed out on the previous thread, that is in contradiction to Mordaunt's previous on-the-record stance on such trans issues and, more importantly, her complete denial Boris-style that she ever took those positions, together with her discredited denial of positions on other issues.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Except that, as Cyclefree pointed out on the previous thread, that is in contradiction to Mordaunt's previous on-the-record stance on such trans issues and, more importantly, her complete denial Boris-style that she ever took those positions, together with her discredited denial of positions on other issues.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
Maybe she's been on a journey.
If you've been on a journey that's fine so long as you acknowledge the journey.
If she backs up her current position people should be broadly happy though.
Not often you see a 4°C difference between MetOffice & BBC (actually Meteogroup) forecasts. Currently predicting either very hot or stupidly hot for us on Monday. I’ll be hoping for the former!
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
I am not sure this has anything to do with Brexit or his views on it. I think it is twofold. Firstly there is a lot of disquiet about how he handled the economics of Covid and the subsequent massive tax rises. Secondly there is anger in some quarters about his role in the final defeat of Johnson..
There does seem to be something of an overlap between those calling Sunak a 'traitor', and hard line Brexit views, though.
Whether that's a causal link is another matter. The hatred out there borders on irrational - spend a few minutes looking at #NeverRishiSunak on Twitter.
The Stab in the back stuff is quite something. Do they think he arranged for Chris Pincher to get drunk and start groping, and then for BJ to lie about it?
It's funny that Sunak is being criticised for his Covid-onomics on here when IIRC it was only @contrarian who from the getgo foresaw the eventual situation we're in now.
Hold on a minute, I remember raising a lot of objections around the furlough scheme being as generous as it was and the seemingly unlimited extensions that kept being given. It should have been lesser funded and ended in April 2021 once we came out of lockdown. I was also unconvinced around the idea of just giving out loans to any "business" that asked for one without requiring proof that it actually traded and that it existed for at least some amount of time before COVID started. Additionally I'm also pretty sure I said that the self-employment grants were far, far too generous and impossible to properly police and should have been done as reclaimable rebate by HMRC depending on full year income vs previous year income.
There were a lot of people worrying about the eventual COVID bill at the time, you and I included.
Indeed, the criticism from early 2021 onwards especially was very widespread and from late 2021 Sunak's policies have been extremely criticised here.
The problem with contrarian was not that he didn't ask some good questions (he did) but that he used some very poor and extreme arguments to come to opposing conclusions.
Too many critics of lockdown policies were basically saying that there was no problem and people wouldn't die and it was all being done to further an agenda. That was gibberish.
I've quite openly said, and others like yourself have too, that we need to be more accepting of death and that trying to prevent every death isn't either possible or desirable at any price.
I found Mordaunt's line that (paraphrasing) "the government has no business dictating how pubs arrange their toilet facilities" mildly reassuring. If (that's a big IF) she applies that line of thought to other aspects of policy making I'd be more relaxed about her as PM (but I'm still hoping Sunak scrapes in somehow).
Except that, as Cyclefree pointed out on the previous thread, that is in contradiction to Mordaunt's previous on-the-record stance on such trans issues and, more importantly, her complete denial Boris-style that she ever took those positions, together with her discredited denial of positions on other issues.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
I am not sure this has anything to do with Brexit or his views on it. I think it is twofold. Firstly there is a lot of disquiet about how he handled the economics of Covid and the subsequent massive tax rises. Secondly there is anger in some quarters about his role in the final defeat of Johnson..
There does seem to be something of an overlap between those calling Sunak a 'traitor', and hard line Brexit views, though.
Whether that's a causal link is another matter. The hatred out there borders on irrational - spend a few minutes looking at #NeverRishiSunak on Twitter.
The Stab in the back stuff is quite something. Do they think he arranged for Chris Pincher to get drunk and start groping, and then for BJ to lie about it?
It's all a bit confusing. JRM was publicly criticising Sunak whilst in the Cabinet, as HYUFD pointed out - that's a bigger betrayal than resigning.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
That’s basically my plan, too. Hunker down
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
40C is simply grim
Stay hydrated and remember that alcohol dehydrates you.
In Aus we'd regularly have 40C+ days and the grown ups (I was a child) would drink beer outside in that weather, but would drink lots of water too. People in this country haven't always grasped that concept.
If you're drinking alcohol in the heat, have one glass of water for every glass of alcohol. That will help prevent the headaches and dizziness.
Just drink what seem insane amounts of water. You can get kidney stones as a result of not very long being dehydrated. From personal experience in the heat of Pakistan.
The bottom line is that any new Tory leader has to deal with the Tory right. You either have to win their support or dominate them. Note that Boris succeeded because he simultaneously did both. May was crushed by them. Arguably Cameron too.
Mourdant or Sunak will be battling them throughout their Premierships. Do they have the strength to overcome them? That’s not clear today, but what is obvious is that they have no choice now but to take them on.
The truly insane thing is that both Sunak and Mordaunt are of the right, and clearly so. The other wing of Centrist One Nation Tories has long been purged.
The one consistent aspect of this contest is that the Tories are swinging to the right. It’s just a question of how far. Cameronism is loooong dead. Today it’s all about tax cuts and scapegoats.
That is not a correct reading of Mordaunt.
There's a reason Labour fear her. And it is not because she is a one-size-fits-all right wing loon.
I don’t think Labour should fear her. She is an empty vessel and it looks like her own party will do for her.
I still think that she is the best chance of Tories maintaining a majority. In order of probability of winning the next GE, I would put:
Mordaunt Sunak Tugenhadt Truss Badenoch
With Mordaunt the only one above the waterline of a majority.
I think your analysis is spot on.
Con Maj starts to look value if Mordaunt wins.
I would put Badenoch ahead of Truss, she is less experienced but Truss is the least electable of the candidates remaining
Everyone loves Penny now, even HY 😋
Bye Bye PM Starmer part one Penny’s in Heaven say the Papers. 😇 She really is the media’s darling. (And according to polling and focus groups, the electorate are in love with her too)
Bye Bye PM Starmer part two The economic crisis the reds were hoping could sneak them into office, is coming to an end. As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. Penny Mordaunt already a lucky PM?
Gas isn’t going to fall any time soon (the major inflationary driver) and the weak dollar means petrol prices will stay high. Food prices are still going to be high for as long as the UA war goes on. Labour supply is still short (as can be seen by the airports). I’d quite like it all to go away soon for personal reasons, but I think it’s fantasy to believe it so.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
The Dollar is strong, not weak.
The rate at which natural gas wells/trains are coming back on line in the US is quite impressive.
The next bottleneck is LNG ships.
Malmsy^
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The problem when the mini thread goes wrong (the last block quote doesn’t work) it sneaks other people words into your bit, probably why so many deleted posts below - the weak dollar bit not my line.
But RCS did post stuff the other day convincing me the crisis could ease quite quickly. Indeed, that was the original prediction before it came, up sharply down sharply wasn’t it?
Related to Penny as our new PM, voters will see her come into power and inflation fall, cost of living under control, and she is sure to get all the credit to increase her popularity with the electorate ahead of the general election, isn’t she?
It's funny that Sunak is being criticised for his Covid-onomics on here when IIRC it was only @contrarian who from the getgo foresaw the eventual situation we're in now.
Nah there were lots of people saying he was going too far. I wasn't one of them at the time - my view was no one was going to pay me anything if I didn't work but I had enough work to be going on with anyway so I wasn't directly impacted at the time. So it would have been too easy for me to criticise when I wasn't going to be the one losing my job.
But as I say there were lots of people apart from Contrarian saying it was too generous and certainly lots of people saying we were selling our children's futures for the furlough. Of course with the opposition parties being all on board any criticism was bound to fall on deaf ears.
At those temperatures the major question is what's the humidity? 40% desert isn't that bad. It's easily done in the shade. Much, much more unpleasant is 38° on a smallish island.
Fairly low humidity - mid twenties % at the hottest part of the day
Yes, thank God. The real risk is the high overnight minima - no sleep - and anyone doing anything active in the sun
Quite worrying for those of us with dicky tickers but norwich i think will be near enough the coast to escape the highest temps.
Actually, mate, the Monday forecast is 40C in Norwich. So I’d take precautions. Maybe find a bedroom with aircon. A hotel?
Ive got a mini aircon unit, good quality one and my bedroom faces north so ill hide out there from monday lunchtime given the worst heat is building in Monday by 3ish.
That’s basically my plan, too. Hunker down
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
40C is simply grim
Stay hydrated and remember that alcohol dehydrates you.
In Aus we'd regularly have 40C+ days and the grown ups (I was a child) would drink beer outside in that weather, but would drink lots of water too. People in this country haven't always grasped that concept.
If you're drinking alcohol in the heat, have one glass of water for every glass of alcohol. That will help prevent the headaches and dizziness.
Just drink what seem insane amounts of water. You can get kidney stones as a result of not very long being dehydrated. From personal experience in the heat of Pakistan.
I did not know that! I'm getting some water right now.
— Rishi Sunak privately lobbied Cabinet to impose a major new levy on petrol and diesel last year
— Sunak said it was needed to raise Treasury funds
— would've added £100s to annual petrol bills
— HMT drew up policy but Cabinet vetoed plan
Sounds like that was how he managed to get them to agree to the NI tax rise. "If you really don't want to put up tax on fuel then how about we increase NI..?"
In 1990 despite being ousted it was Thatcher's support for John Major that beat Heseltine.
In this race Sunak would be Heseltine to Mordaunt's Major, with Truss basically now Norman Tebbit in a skirt
The idea Sunak is the Heseltine shows how far the party has gone down the rabbithole. Heseltine, and Clarke after him lost as were open pro-Europeans in a party that isn't. Which is fine. A leader can't be that at odds with their party on such a big issue, so they generally pre-Brexit selected Eurosceptic leaders who none-the-less thought it was a bad idea to leave altogether rather than gripe from within. The fact Sunak, an actual dyed-in -the-wool Brexiteer who believes it can be made a success of rather than suffered, is apparently the moderate unloved by the party, shows quit what a bonkers and ludicrous situation the Conservative Party is in.
I really dont know how he became a remainer traitor, as referred to on here even, in the eyes of some members.
I am not sure this has anything to do with Brexit or his views on it. I think it is twofold. Firstly there is a lot of disquiet about how he handled the economics of Covid and the subsequent massive tax rises. Secondly there is anger in some quarters about his role in the final defeat of Johnson..
There does seem to be something of an overlap between those calling Sunak a 'traitor', and hard line Brexit views, though.
Whether that's a causal link is another matter. The hatred out there borders on irrational - spend a few minutes looking at #NeverRishiSunak on Twitter.
I think that this is because to those who still believe that Brexit was a good thing (chortle) see Johnson as a hero rather than villain. They therefore hate Sunak for bringing the fat little charlatan down. It is that basic, because such people are that childish and petty.
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People overestimate the risk to health from heat whenever it happens. Its not as dangerous as the cold, yet we don't hyperventilate about winter happening to the same extent. Far more people will die this winter than this summer.
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1547817465974951941
Russia, universities...
https://twitter.com/vitalij_kim/status/1547819048926208001
schools...
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1547832791819100161
....residential areas in cities hundreds of miles from the front, with no military significance.
https://twitter.com/tvtoront/status/1547880308606849026
That seems incredible to me. Good luck
Sky really seem to have an editorial line of pushing Mordaunt all week this week. Never really seen such a one sided line on broadcast TV, its normally only newspapers that do that.
Man who has experience of living in a place where it gets to 40c+ gives standard advice on what to do when the temperature gets to 40c.
That's a snowflakey as suggesting changing your engine oil at the intervals suggested in the handbook.
I like her, think she could do well in debates, and I'm not 100% sure all the ERG will follow her advice.
Quit moaning. Take sensible precautions and enjoy the heat.
Don't hyperventilate about the "danger" of weather that is less dangerous than our normal weather much of the year.
On the gender neutral / unisex loos question, she says I’m a small stater - it’s no business of government how pubs and restaurants arrange their lavatories
Excellent answers.
Seersucker suit and lots of cool drinks is my plan.
I enjoy sun and hot weather but over about 35C I start to suffer (with no aircon) - mild headaches and dizziness
40C is simply grim
Best rated are all about stop moaning and enjoy the lovely day at the beach.
Worst rated refer to climate change.
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If he wanted to do anything messy as a toddler (e.g. paints, play-doh), then I would put it in the tray for him to play with, stopping the mess getting onto the carpet.
And on hot summer days, I'd put a load of ice in it, and he would play with the ice as it melted, stacking ice cubes, creating lakes and dams.
We still use them for things like Lego sets, to avoid losing pieces. And if they need to be moved in order to vacuum, we just move the tray and everything on it.
- The patients
- The doctors
- The nurses
But hey, the architects probably won an award.
I am a big fan of passively cooled buildings - when you have some height, it is very easy to build in some chimney effects.
The most insane one I've seen recently, was a hotel atrium in London. On a very hot day, recently, heat was pouring up the building. You could literally feel the hot air pushing out, at the doors to the bar on the roof. A couple of panels in the atrium glass roof with powered opening - tilt one end up a foot, say - and the hot air would have been replaced by a nice fresh breeze through the building.....
She'd get us off these pointless wars and onto actual policies again. She must win.
AFAIK Mordaunt is single, she is not in a relationship.
Same way if people like you you can be a lot more radical than someone they dont like.
“ As RCS posted the other day, it could all go away as quickly as it came. ”
Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
Hot air rises, so pressurise your building and put a vent in the roof.
Current forecast has a 15C drop from Tuesday to Wednesday. I imagine Wednesday will be lost due to terrible sleep.
What you have done their is make a greenhouses inside a greenhouse....
I imagine great for growing tomatoes, less so growing PhD students.
In Aus we'd regularly have 40C+ days and the grown ups (I was a child) would drink beer outside in that weather, but would drink lots of water too. People in this country haven't always grasped that concept.
If you're drinking alcohol in the heat, have one glass of water for every glass of alcohol. That will help prevent the headaches and dizziness.
Yes Stephen Sackur’s hard talk interviews are excellent. Proper old school journalism. Knows when to interrupt and challenge - and when to shut up and let the guest talk. A real skill. He doesn’t make it about himself, either, which is a trap that most of these high profile interviewers seem to fall into.
I am not sure I agree with his critics on either of these though I do think his handling of the pandemic economics was flawed - it is terribly easy to throw money at problems and then claim afterwards there was no alternative. His part in getting rid of Johnson, though clearly self serving, was a small plus in my book. But I just don't think he has what it takes to be PM. He is always seeking the easy solutions to problems even if they are a long way from being the best ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqgVDfEDvs&t=78s
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Where are you Robert? You convinced me, others need convincing.
The Dollar is strong, not weak.
The rate at which natural gas wells/trains are coming back on line in the US is quite impressive.
The next bottleneck is LNG ships.
Lack of faith in politicians is the issue. Having seen the downfall of one PM on the back of repeated lies, I've had enough of lying PMs and don't want another that operates from the Boris/Trump playbook.
I had an argument with a lecturer once as there was this hotel with a confusing architecture such that people struggled to find the entrance. They were fans of buildings as art, while I maintained it might be good art but it was still a crap building given its purpose as a hotel.
There were a lot of people worrying about the eventual COVID bill at the time, you and I included.
Whether that's a causal link is another matter. The hatred out there borders on irrational - spend a few minutes looking at #NeverRishiSunak on Twitter.
An escape room might get away with having a hard to find entrance.
1. From early in the morning have everything opened to get air blowing through
2. As soon as the sun hits your sun-facing windows in the morning close them up along with any blinds, curtains etc. that you have
3. When the outside temperature reaches that inside the house close all the remaining windows along with blinds, curtains etc.
4. Keep everything closed and try and avoid opening anything to let the hot air in
5. In the evening when the outside temperature drops below the temperature inside then open everything back up again
You have to be really strict on following this. Like opening the door of your house on a freezing cold day will let the cold in, the same is true in reverse on these hot days.
I am considering in the future installing shutters on our windows. They would make a big difference and there is a very good reason they are quite common on the continent.
So Boris Johnson gone, Penny as PM, do we really need to elect the party of Richard Burgon, long Bailey, dianne Abbott, Sultana etc etc etc to the government benches now? Starmer is both funded by the Trade Unions and has made no effort at all to purge all these people out of his party.
But be aware that a bit of breeze can fool the senses as to what the gradient is.
So, shut particularly sun and heat facing curtains, shut all windows as soon as the day warms above the indoor temperature, know and stay in your most comfortable downstairs room (in my case a NW facing kitchen), move air around indoors. Then open things up later in the evening away from the sun and overnight if feasible once it cools sufficiently.
I have upstairs, south facing dormer bedrooms, and anything above 25C I'm active in opening and shutting curtains and windows at the appropriate times.
Very few were arguing we shouldn't have done testing, or intervened to help businesses. But quite a few have said we've wasted billions on ill considered means of carrying out those things.
(Though of course testing was hardly Sunak's responsibility.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAKpbVMhu0Q
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EXCLUSIVE:
— Rishi Sunak privately lobbied Cabinet to impose a major new levy on petrol and diesel last year
— Sunak said it was needed to raise Treasury funds
— would've added £100s to annual petrol bills
— HMT drew up policy but Cabinet vetoed plan
If she backs up her current position people should be broadly happy though.
The problem with contrarian was not that he didn't ask some good questions (he did) but that he used some very poor and extreme arguments to come to opposing conclusions.
Too many critics of lockdown policies were basically saying that there was no problem and people wouldn't die and it was all being done to further an agenda. That was gibberish.
I've quite openly said, and others like yourself have too, that we need to be more accepting of death and that trying to prevent every death isn't either possible or desirable at any price.
Every instinct now seems to be how to raise more taxes for the Treasury. Terrible, Brownian economics. Poor Chancellor. A real shame. 👎
Not fit to be PM.
The rate at which natural gas wells/trains are coming back on line in the US is quite impressive.
The next bottleneck is LNG ships.
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The problem when the mini thread goes wrong (the last block quote doesn’t work) it sneaks other people words into your bit, probably why so many deleted posts below - the weak dollar bit not my line.
But RCS did post stuff the other day convincing me the crisis could ease quite quickly. Indeed, that was the original prediction before it came, up sharply down sharply wasn’t it?
Related to Penny as our new PM, voters will see her come into power and inflation fall, cost of living under control, and she is sure to get all the credit to increase her popularity with the electorate ahead of the general election, isn’t she?
Take with a pinch of salt as it's the GFS.
But as I say there were lots of people apart from Contrarian saying it was too generous and certainly lots of people saying we were selling our children's futures for the furlough. Of course with the opposition parties being all on board any criticism was bound to fall on deaf ears.
If I get water poisoning I'll blame you though