In Italy, with temps at 36, no one was outside and every shutter was closed.
Also interesting to hear the advice about keeping south facing windows closed - would never occur to me that having them open would increase temperatures.
Yes - keep them closed and close curtains. The room never gets warm and so you have a cool dark room at the end of the day.
"Never gets warm?" This is an exaggeration to put it mildly, unless perhaps you live in a very old stone cottage.
The modern British home is custom built to trap heat, because they're all constructed to deal with wet, chilly days not roasting hot ones. Hardly any of them have been built with such conditions in mind.
It's really all about damage limitation: trying to make the interior of one's home hot rather than actually lethal.
Trapping heat is identical to trapping cool. Keep all your windows and door shut, and a well insulated house will do a fine job of keeping the heat out.
The average human generates about 100W of heat continuously. Your fridge will also dump heat into your house, as will, most obviously, any cooking that you do, or hot water that you use for washing dishes, or yourself. If you can't lose this heat to the outside world, then your house will warm up over time.
You are reading my mind. And echoing my experience.
She's is brilliant in this. But she is not ready to be PM. Got to be a top place in next Cabinet though. With a few more years of maturity the Tories have a star on their hands.
I tried to watch it but the grovelling and simpering of Iain Dale was totally off-putting. I was waiting for "no, no, not the comfy chair" to be honest.
I look forward to her facing some serious and forensic questioning. Her comments on "Support Assistants" in classrooms got her in some trouble and while she walked back from it I wasn't wholly convinced.
It's doubly awkward because while it's obvious Gove would be in a very senior position in a Badenoch Cabinet, she's probably also realised keeping your friends close is fine but having your enemies closer isn't a bad idea,
In Italy, with temps at 36, no one was outside and every shutter was closed.
Also interesting to hear the advice about keeping south facing windows closed - would never occur to me that having them open would increase temperatures.
Yes - keep them closed and close curtains. The room never gets warm and so you have a cool dark room at the end of the day.
"Never gets warm?" This is an exaggeration to put it mildly, unless perhaps you live in a very old stone cottage.
The modern British home is custom built to trap heat, because they're all constructed to deal with wet, chilly days not roasting hot ones. Hardly any of them have been built with such conditions in mind.
It's really all about damage limitation: trying to make the interior of one's home hot rather than actually lethal.
Trapping heat is identical to trapping cool. Keep all your windows and door shut, and a well insulated house will do a fine job of keeping the heat out.
The average human generates about 100W of heat continuously. Your fridge will also dump heat into your house, as will, most obviously, any cooking that you do, or hot water that you use for washing dishes, or yourself. If you can't lose this heat to the outside world, then your house will warm up over time.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
She's is brilliant in this. But she is not ready to be PM. Got to be a top place in next Cabinet though. With a few more years of maturity the Tories have a star on their hands.
I tried to watch it but the grovelling and simpering of Iain Dale was totally off-putting. I was waiting for "no, no, not the comfy chair" to be honest.
I look forward to her facing some serious and forensic questioning. Her comments on "Support Assistants" in classrooms got her in some trouble and while she walked back from it I wasn't wholly convinced.
It's doubly awkward because while it's obvious Gove would be in a very senior position in a Badenoch Cabinet, she's probably also realised keeping your friends close is fine but having your enemies closer isn't a bad idea,
Dale is poor if not very poor.
The trouble with the media is none of them are poor. Put them on UC or minimum wage and their priorities for questioning would change.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
Truss won't be continuity Johnson, Johnson was a big spender, Truss wants to slash spending. She is just as pro hard Brexit as Boris if not more so but even more anti Woke and significantly more Thatcherite on economics
In Italy, with temps at 36, no one was outside and every shutter was closed.
Also interesting to hear the advice about keeping south facing windows closed - would never occur to me that having them open would increase temperatures.
Yes - keep them closed and close curtains. The room never gets warm and so you have a cool dark room at the end of the day.
"Never gets warm?" This is an exaggeration to put it mildly, unless perhaps you live in a very old stone cottage.
The modern British home is custom built to trap heat, because they're all constructed to deal with wet, chilly days not roasting hot ones. Hardly any of them have been built with such conditions in mind.
It's really all about damage limitation: trying to make the interior of one's home hot rather than actually lethal.
Trapping heat is identical to trapping cool. Keep all your windows and door shut, and a well insulated house will do a fine job of keeping the heat out.
The average human generates about 100W of heat continuously. Your fridge will also dump heat into your house, as will, most obviously, any cooking that you do, or hot water that you use for washing dishes, or yourself. If you can't lose this heat to the outside world, then your house will warm up over time.
Of course: but that 100W takes a fair while to heat the house.
The old trick of closing the curtains and windows all day in the bedrooms is effective because it prevents the Sun's rays entering the room and warming up items, which then radiate as heat energy, heating the air. Keeping the door closed will also stop warm air to some extent from entering the room from the rest of the house. It will provide you with a chance of a cooler room to get to sleep in at the end of the day.
The other option is to temporarily sleep downstairs if you can, where it's cooler anyay.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
Couple of by elections in so far. LD hold in Yeovil with a double digit drop in tory vote and 8% swing Labour hold in North Tyneside but Tory vote up and a 6% swing to them since May
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
Truss won't be continuity Johnson, Johnson was a big spender, Truss wants to slash spending. She is just as hard on Brexit as Boris if not more so but even more anti Woke and significantly more Thatcherite on economics
So in effect the perfect candidate for Starmer to run against ! As much as it pains me I’d rather Sunak and Mordaunt make the final 2 even though it would make Labours job more difficult .
In Italy, with temps at 36, no one was outside and every shutter was closed.
Also interesting to hear the advice about keeping south facing windows closed - would never occur to me that having them open would increase temperatures.
Yes - keep them closed and close curtains. The room never gets warm and so you have a cool dark room at the end of the day.
"Never gets warm?" This is an exaggeration to put it mildly, unless perhaps you live in a very old stone cottage.
The modern British home is custom built to trap heat, because they're all constructed to deal with wet, chilly days not roasting hot ones. Hardly any of them have been built with such conditions in mind.
It's really all about damage limitation: trying to make the interior of one's home hot rather than actually lethal.
Trapping heat is identical to trapping cool. Keep all your windows and door shut, and a well insulated house will do a fine job of keeping the heat out.
The average human generates about 100W of heat continuously. Your fridge will also dump heat into your house, as will, most obviously, any cooking that you do, or hot water that you use for washing dishes, or yourself. If you can't lose this heat to the outside world, then your house will warm up over time.
Of course: but that 100W takes a fair while to heat the house.
The old trick of closing the curtains and windows all day in the bedrooms is effective because it prevents the Sun's rays entering the room and warming up items, which then radiate as heat energy, heating the air. Keeping the door closed will also stop warm air to some extent from entering the room from the rest of the house. It will provide you with a chance of a cooler room to get to sleep in at the end of the day.
The other option is to temporarily sleep downstairs if you can, where it's cooler anyay.
Luckily in West Wales you can quite easily subtract 10 degrees C from the South East temp due to the presence of the Irish Sea and Milford Haven waterway.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
IDK, once she's PM they can't really do a leadership election again so I think she can do whatever she wants. And she wants to win the next election, so she'll do whatever she thinks will help with that. I doubt that's a trade war with the EU.
In Seattle we have number of issues that exacerbate the impact of heat waves, compared to rest of US:
> generally mild winters and (at least through 20th-century) mild summers; > relatively cheap electricity (hydro-electric provided by municipal utility); > hence traditionally not much insulation and less air conditioning.
Worth mentioning that, for us, the North Pacific is the Great Moderator. Keeps it from getting sub-freezing as a rule in winter. And in the summer it's Nature's A/C. PROVIDE there is ON-shore air flow (from the Pacific inland) as opposed to OFF-shore (from deserts of Eastern WA into Puget Sound).
And 2 more Lab holds in Wallasey with all votes pretty static and in Hyndburn with a small swing to Tories whos vote is up 4% from May. Tory vote in the North resilient tonight
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Truss is a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations . That’s why the EU weren’t jumping for joy when Johnson was given his P45 , mindful that the Tories could always deliver someone just as bad or worse .
In Italy, with temps at 36, no one was outside and every shutter was closed.
Also interesting to hear the advice about keeping south facing windows closed - would never occur to me that having them open would increase temperatures.
Yes - keep them closed and close curtains. The room never gets warm and so you have a cool dark room at the end of the day.
"Never gets warm?" This is an exaggeration to put it mildly, unless perhaps you live in a very old stone cottage.
The modern British home is custom built to trap heat, because they're all constructed to deal with wet, chilly days not roasting hot ones. Hardly any of them have been built with such conditions in mind.
It's really all about damage limitation: trying to make the interior of one's home hot rather than actually lethal.
Trapping heat is identical to trapping cool. Keep all your windows and door shut, and a well insulated house will do a fine job of keeping the heat out.
The average human generates about 100W of heat continuously. Your fridge will also dump heat into your house, as will, most obviously, any cooking that you do, or hot water that you use for washing dishes, or yourself. If you can't lose this heat to the outside world, then your house will warm up over time.
Of course: but that 100W takes a fair while to heat the house.
The old trick of closing the curtains and windows all day in the bedrooms is effective because it prevents the Sun's rays entering the room and warming up items, which then radiate as heat energy, heating the air. Keeping the door closed will also stop warm air to some extent from entering the room from the rest of the house. It will provide you with a chance of a cooler room to get to sleep in at the end of the day.
The other option is to temporarily sleep downstairs if you can, where it's cooler anyay.
Every place is different. So key thing to do, is TAKE STOCK of your specific situation, and take sensible action BEFORE the heat wave hits.
In Seattle, plenty of houses & apts have skylights. Good idea to do what you can to block them temporarily.
In Seattle we have number of issues that exacerbate the impact of heat waves, compared to rest of US:
> generally mild winters and (at least through 20th-century) mild summers; > relatively cheap electricity (hydro-electric provided by municipal utility); > hence traditionally not much insulation and less air conditioning.
Worth mentioning that, for us, the North Pacific is the Great Moderator. Keeps it from getting sub-freezing as a rule in winter. And in the summer it's Nature's A/C. PROVIDE there is ON-shore air flow (from the Pacific inland) as opposed to OFF-shore (from deserts of Eastern WA into Puget Sound).
I don'k know about the rest of the UK, but Seattle and London have pretty similar weather. The summers in Seattle are slightly hotter, and you get a bit more sunshine, but it's not really that different.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
With any luck a Sunday paper will have done some polling matchups vs Labour and Truss’s figures will be dire, just to hammer the point home
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Agree with all that. She’s the hardest to beat but the country is more important. The Tory press seem determined to do an IDS on her. Pretty sickening stuff from the Mail tonight.
Robin Millar MP, backer of Braverman, says he is undecided. Migration and ECHR will decide his vote. Cost of living, guys? At all? Anyone?
No. The Conservative Party is totally lost in the woods. Actually quite sad to see. It's a bit like Corbyn-era Labour, only it's not centred around one "absolute boy". It's just they've all gone mad at the same time. It's a contagious hysteria.
But what's the answer to cost of living? I recognise that it's a big problem, but it doesn't strike me there's any great cleavage in how to address it.
That's easy:
The best way to get the cost of living down is to defeat Putin. Because only when Putin is defeated and Russia withdraws from Ukraine, can the oil and gas start to flow again (and, of course, this also means grain will be shipped from Ukraine).
But it seems as though Liz Truss is the candidate most determined to defeat Putin, of the leading three contenders. Given the general pro-Ukrainian consensus on pb, it makes the general anti-Truss consensus a bit odd.
I've come to the conclusion that I don't think a Conservative PM is ever likely to impress me very much, so on one level it doesn't matter too much who wins it. All of them will do things I disagree with. But Ukraine is incredibly important, and if there's any hint of a scintilla of backsliding from whoever replaces Johnson - I'd have to regret that he was pushed out.
I'm a bit worried by Sunak on this. He has the air of being a "realist", and wanting to reach an accommodation so that the problem will go away. I have absolutely no idea what Mordaunt's position is. That might make me the most pro-Truss poster here. Which is a bit odd.
I'm kinda waiting for Wallace to show his hand and anoint the candidate who is most steadfast in support of Ukraine.
Why the hell do you think Mordaunt is less keen on defeating Putin??? I actually think there wouldn't be a fag paper between Boris and Mordaunt and Truss on Ukraine.
Sunak less convincing on Ukraine. Deserves to lose for that reason alone.
The ERG remind me of the Judean People's Front Suicide Squad.
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Truss is a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations . That’s why the EU weren’t jumping for joy when Johnson was given his P45 , mindful that the Tories could always deliver someone just as bad or worse .
For: "a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations" Read: "a truly good individual that would put the UK interest before EU UK relations"
Macron doesn't hesitate to put French interests first and so he should, he's the President of France. The least we should expect of the UK PM is they'd do the same and stop pissing about trying to have "good relations". That's one thing Boris got right and I think Truss could be even better if she gets it. 👍
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Kudos for your honesty. I'm not really getting the Truss hate.
General pattern tonight with 2 to come is Con vote collapsing/big drops where LD challenging/in the South, fairly static versus labour/further north. Means nothing as usual but an interesting cross section. Still expect lab to gain one in Trusses seat
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Truss would lead the Tories to their worst defeat since 1997 and 2001, she is too pro spending cuts for the redwall and too hard Brexit and anti Woke for the bluewall
Betfair starting to look a bit saner - Mordaunt out to 2.06, Truss steady on 3.7, Sunak back in to 4.7 (still too long). The three debates will be pretty important for MP attitudes, I think, and pretty unpredictable, so they should probably all three be about 3.0. Badenuch at 36 is not insane but it does need two of the others to un-impress.
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Kudos for your honesty. I'm not really getting the Truss hate.
Me neither. As I've said a few times, this is someone who has been in the Cabinet for a decade, has held some of the biggest jobs in that time, from Lord Chancellor to Foreign Secretary . . . and all her critics ever come back to is she spoke oddly while DEFRA Secretary nearly a decade ago in a speech about cheese and pork markets.
Like him or loathe him, Boris's critics had a litany of reasons they disliked him that was virtually endless. Truss made a funny speech about a decade ago and . . . that's about it. That's all her opponents ever harp on about, from a decade as a big beast at the top of Government all she's done wrong is say "that is a disgrace" nearly a decade ago. 🤷♂️
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Truss would lead the Tories to their worst defeat since 1997 and 2001, she is too pro spending cuts for the redwall and too hard Brexit and anti Woke for the bluewall
So what?
If all the Tories are going to offer is Labour's economic policies with a blue rosette we might as well have a Labour government anyway.
At least then we can have a Tory opposition waiting to pick up the pieces, rather than socialists waiting for when the Government implementing Labour's policies falls.
Truss is notorious amongst Parliamentary staffers for being a vindictive bully, and if she becomes PM I expect a lot of the really bad comments will go public.
Betfair starting to look a bit saner - Mordaunt out to 2.06, Truss steady on 3.7, Sunak back in to 4.7 (still too long). The three debates will be pretty important for MP attitudes, I think, and pretty unpredictable, so they should probably all three be about 3.0. Badenuch at 36 is not insane but it does need two of the others to un-impress.
If Badenoch blows away at the tv debate then all bets are off I reckon.
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Country over party, I think the Tories should pick Truss.
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Kudos for your honesty. I'm not really getting the Truss hate.
Me neither. As I've said a few times, this is someone who has been in the Cabinet for a decade, has held some of the biggest jobs in that time, from Lord Chancellor to Foreign Secretary . . . and all her critics ever come back to is she spoke oddly while DEFRA Secretary nearly a decade ago in a speech about cheese and pork markets.
Like him or loathe him, Boris's critics had a litany of reasons they disliked him that was virtually endless. Truss made a funny speech about a decade ago and . . . that's about it. That's all her opponents ever harp on about, from a decade as a big beast at the top of Government all she's done wrong is say "that is a disgrace" nearly a decade ago. 🤷♂️
And tbf. That was about her peculiar cadence. She isn't a good public speaker. That is a fair critique. But then I thought Boris was poor. A forest of ums and errs disguised by the odd memorable phrase.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
With any luck a Sunday paper will have done some polling matchups vs Labour and Truss’s figures will be dire, just to hammer the point home
There was polling last week, where Truss v Starmer was dire (-12pts)
But Mourdant v Starmer was worse (-15pts)
It was the poll the Sunak campaign used, as he was the only one who came out of it well (+1pt)
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
When the Tories start electing clear no-hopers over clear winners for nothing more than ideological purity you know Opposition is looming...
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Truss is a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations . That’s why the EU weren’t jumping for joy when Johnson was given his P45 , mindful that the Tories could always deliver someone just as bad or worse .
For: "a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations" Read: "a truly good individual that would put the UK interest before EU UK relations"
Macron doesn't hesitate to put French interests first and so he should, he's the President of France. The least we should expect of the UK PM is they'd do the same and stop pissing about trying to have "good relations". That's one thing Boris got right and I think Truss could be even better if she gets it. 👍
I suspect Truss would be quite pragmatic, and while firm with championing British interests would probably do it while not rubbing people up the wrong way quite so much.
Betfair starting to look a bit saner - Mordaunt out to 2.06, Truss steady on 3.7, Sunak back in to 4.7 (still too long). The three debates will be pretty important for MP attitudes, I think, and pretty unpredictable, so they should probably all three be about 3.0. Badenuch at 36 is not insane but it does need two of the others to un-impress.
If Badenoch blows away at the tv debate then all bets are off I reckon.
Truss is notorious amongst Parliamentary staffers for being a vindictive bully, and if she becomes PM I expect a lot of the really bad comments will go public.
She's definitely got the feel of a Gordon Brown about her... Something's just not quite right...
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
When the Tories start electing clear no-hopers over clear winners for nothing more than ideological purity you know Opposition is looming...
I think my post is the rare one of mine to get likes from across the spectrum, have I become a centrist?
I am so sorry for all those offended by adverts at Waterloo Station that Kemi won’t be winning
Yet they are quite happy to cause permanent offence to our second closest international neighbours by continuing to call it Waterloo. Bit selective on the offence front methinks.
We should rename all our terminals: Waterloo, Agincourt, Crecy, and Treaty of Troyes.
How could you forget Picquigny and Trafalgar?
And Blenheim.
I do love the war of the Spanish succession
The English and the Dutch teamed up to fight the French over who got to be king of Spain. Using Germany as the battleground.
So Suella is out and the momentum continues to be with Mordaunt who picked up the most extra support in terms of new MPs backing since the first round.
However some suspicion she is too woke, not only from Cyclefree it seems but also Toby Young
If only Cyclefree and Toby Young were at the leading edge of the zeitgeist?
It's her honesty I have a major issue with. Not her "wokeness" whatever the hell that means. I regard myself as socially liberal.
But lying and untrustworthiness: no - that's not on for me. Also I dislike PR bullshit and spin. The city is full of bullshit merchants. Some solid quiet achievement beats that any day of the week.
Solid quiet achievement doesn’t get rewarded in the city
The party is really determined to choose a loser isn't it?
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
When the Tories start electing clear no-hopers over clear winners for nothing more than ideological purity you know Opposition is looming...
I think my post is the rare one of mine to get likes from across the spectrum, have I become a centrist?
You're doing just fine. As Tory unpopularity grows you'll find more and more fellow Labour supporters joining you on here.
#PBTories will be a diminishing group (at least for a while )
Supposedly Truss has slept with most of the Tory Party but I am not sure if this just a silly rumour.
I think you should withdraw that allegation. And I find it very distasteful when people assume that just because a woman has made a success of business or politics, that sex might have something to do with it.
Betfair starting to look a bit saner - Mordaunt out to 2.06, Truss steady on 3.7, Sunak back in to 4.7 (still too long). The three debates will be pretty important for MP attitudes, I think, and pretty unpredictable, so they should probably all three be about 3.0. Badenuch at 36 is not insane but it does need two of the others to un-impress.
If Badenoch blows away at the tv debate then all bets are off I reckon.
Gotta be the value bet tonight,
On the flip side she could be asked about detail.
By the time it comes to Sky debate there can only be 4 left? Better write 5 name plates, and just bin one
I am so sorry for all those offended by adverts at Waterloo Station that Kemi won’t be winning
Yet they are quite happy to cause permanent offence to our second closest international neighbours by continuing to call it Waterloo. Bit selective on the offence front methinks.
We should rename all our terminals: Waterloo, Agincourt, Crecy, and Treaty of Troyes.
How could you forget Picquigny and Trafalgar?
And Blenheim.
I do love the war of the Spanish succession
The English and the Dutch teamed up to fight the French over who got to be king of Spain. Using Germany as the battleground.
Supposedly Truss has slept with most of the Tory Party but I am not sure if this just a silly rumour.
I think you should withdraw that allegation. And I find it very distasteful when people assume that just because a woman has made a success of business or politics, that sex might have something to do with it.
To be honest I originally read it on here - but I am happy to withdraw it with an apology to Ms Truss. I would not want to attack her in this way.
I wasn't suggesting she was successful because of sex but I can see how it might have come across that way.
Supposedly Truss has slept with most of the Tory Party but I am not sure if this just a silly rumour.
I think you should withdraw that allegation. And I find it very distasteful when people assume that just because a woman has made a success of business or politics, that sex might have something to do with it.
Truss is notorious amongst Parliamentary staffers for being a vindictive bully, and if she becomes PM I expect a lot of the really bad comments will go public.
Wasn't this all leaked a few years ago, I am sure I have read about this before.
And if we want to be balanced, Johnson seems to have slept with most of the Tory Party too - and indeed people from lots of other places too, it isn't about gender.
But no surprise to see the usual suspect jump on the bandwagon, yawn.
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Truss is a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations . That’s why the EU weren’t jumping for joy when Johnson was given his P45 , mindful that the Tories could always deliver someone just as bad or worse .
For: "a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations" Read: "a truly good individual that would put the UK interest before EU UK relations"
Macron doesn't hesitate to put French interests first and so he should, he's the President of France. The least we should expect of the UK PM is they'd do the same and stop pissing about trying to have "good relations". That's one thing Boris got right and I think Truss could be even better if she gets it. 👍
I suspect Truss would be quite pragmatic, and while firm with championing British interests would probably do it while not rubbing people up the wrong way quite so much.
I expect you're right. While being firm with the NI issue she's kept an olive branch out for the EU all along and her red/green lane solution is quite a good one. I expect the Truss and the EU would be able to reach a face-saving solution along those lines, even if its not the solution they'd have wanted.
Betfair starting to look a bit saner - Mordaunt out to 2.06, Truss steady on 3.7, Sunak back in to 4.7 (still too long). The three debates will be pretty important for MP attitudes, I think, and pretty unpredictable, so they should probably all three be about 3.0. Badenuch at 36 is not insane but it does need two of the others to un-impress.
If Badenoch blows away at the tv debate then all bets are off I reckon.
Gotta be the value bet tonight,
On the flip side she could be asked about detail.
To be serious for a second, she could be asked about UKs commitment to climate change on day of record breaking heat dominating news. Net Zero 50 is not a yes or no question - it’s what is the detail of what you suggest in its place, question. And to be fair, we have to listen to and consider it.
I am so sorry for all those offended by adverts at Waterloo Station that Kemi won’t be winning
Yet they are quite happy to cause permanent offence to our second closest international neighbours by continuing to call it Waterloo. Bit selective on the offence front methinks.
We should rename all our terminals: Waterloo, Agincourt, Crecy, and Treaty of Troyes.
How could you forget Picquigny and Trafalgar?
Rename stations at random. Penge East could be 'Siege of Rouen Halt' 'Culloden' would be nice for Euston or King's Cross, and help make our Scots friends feel at home. South Greenford could be 'Brunanburh'.
Why not set a good example for others - something of an English specialty, at least in English eyes - by naming stations for British DEFEATS. Symbolic of recognizing reality then moving fearlessly forward.
Well, Hastings/Battle and Dunkirk were defeats ...
Defeats for whom? We're most of us heirs to the Norman invasion. And there's a niche view that said conquest was in part Breton revenge on the Saxon invasion hundreds of years earlier. Certainly William was interested in that theme in the buildup to the invasion when trying to drum up support from his westerly neighbours.
The language we use today is replete with French/Latin-originated words giving a higher class sense and Saxon/Nordic ones giving a lower class sense. Judge v deem Verdant v green Chef v cook Chamber v room Prohibit v ban
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
With any luck a Sunday paper will have done some polling matchups vs Labour and Truss’s figures will be dire, just to hammer the point home
There was polling last week, where Truss v Starmer was dire (-12pts)
But Mourdant v Starmer was worse (-15pts)
It was the poll the Sunak campaign used, as he was the only one who came out of it well (+1pt)
Truss did worse than Sunak and Mordaunt in redwall seats and worse than Tugendhat and Mordaunt in blue wall seats in a Sunday Times poll last weekend. Albeit Hunt did worst of all
Continuity Johnson is a wonderful gift to Labour which I should celebrate but simply can’t .
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
The issue is there is continuity Johnson from the 3 frontrunners. Each seems to be an emanation of one side of his shape shifting character. None is a completely clean break from it.
Truss is a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations . That’s why the EU weren’t jumping for joy when Johnson was given his P45 , mindful that the Tories could always deliver someone just as bad or worse .
For: "a truly awful individual who would be catastrophic for EU UK relations" Read: "a truly good individual that would put the UK interest before EU UK relations"
Macron doesn't hesitate to put French interests first and so he should, he's the President of France. The least we should expect of the UK PM is they'd do the same and stop pissing about trying to have "good relations". That's one thing Boris got right and I think Truss could be even better if she gets it. 👍
I suspect Truss would be quite pragmatic, and while firm with championing British interests would probably do it while not rubbing people up the wrong way quite so much.
I expect you're right. While being firm with the NI issue she's kept an olive branch out for the EU all along and her red/green lane solution is quite a good one. I expect the Truss and the EU would be able to reach a face-saving solution along those lines, even if its not the solution they'd have wanted.
I have agreed with you on this all the way through, Bart. There will be agreement to tweak this, and what UK (and PBs Bart) have proposed all along will be the basis of it.
But it’s fair leaver PM Penny owns that eventual success, we can’t give it to Truss at any point, that would be silly.
And if we want to be balanced, Johnson seems to have slept with most of the Tory Party too - and indeed people from lots of other places too, it isn't about gender.
But no surprise to see the usual suspect jump on the bandwagon, yawn.
You should not be allowed to make such slanderous allegations
I was hoping Kemi might have done better in the 2nd round of voting. I’m not ruling out that she does so in the debates/hustings over the weekend - but realistically I’m not expecting her to overhaul Truss.
None of the 3 shortest in the betting impress me much. I suppose if I had to choose one it would be Sunak. He is clearly very bright. But he comes over as more wanting to be someone than to do something; a phrase used here in the inverse by Nick Palmer re Michael Gove - and by Sajid Javid in his resignation speech about himself. Rishi comes over to me as a faux Tony Blair. (Is that an oxymoron?)
The little I have seen of Penny in the past I have liked but Frost’s criticisms, Penny's lack of experience in government at the highest level and her appearances so far in this campaign have made me re-evaluate her. She is probably too lightweight to be next PM.
Nor does Truss impress me much. But she looks best placed to win now as the Goldilocks candidate. She has more right wing-ness than Penny or Rishi. She has established that she has sufficient Brexiteer credentials, (Baker is now backing her), despite originally voting Remain. She has experience at the highest level of government.
Truss is notorious amongst Parliamentary staffers for being a vindictive bully, and if she becomes PM I expect a lot of the really bad comments will go public.
Wasn't this all leaked a few years ago, I am sure I have read about this before.
Her being a bully is public. The really bad stuff, the systematic bullying of staff and some very unpleasant comments aimed at disabled people, has been circulating in Westminster for a while but (presumably) the press have been sitting on it until the benefits of reporting outweigh the risks of legal action. Her becoming PM probably tips the balance.
Just the Thetford/Truss result to come and they count in the morning
Good result for the Chinese Communist Party.
Yes, they are flying in Binley! Home of the famous mega chippy. I believe its actually the Coventry Citizens Party ADF are the alliance for democracy and freedom TUSC are their usual Continuity Scargill selves
My WeatherPro app (powered by German met models I think) now showing 40C for London on Tuesday
Absolutely unprecedented
Where’s the rain for Wednesday and Thursday with that one? Everyone else has England getting “thundery breakdown” and drop in temp from the low pressure.
My WeatherPro app (powered by German met models I think) now showing 40C for London on Tuesday
Absolutely unprecedented
Some apps show measured temp, some show “feels like”. For records, the measured temp is important, for the human experience, feels-like is.
Which is your data?
(I have booked a hotel for the duration.)
It will be actual measured temperature.
One thing noticeable about this heat is that unlike many of our normal hot days in summer, it will not be humid. Humidity might be as low as 20%, so it will feel more like opening an oven than sitting in a sauna. A wet t-shirt will dry very quickly but will also be very effective at cooling.
I rather extravagantly bought a portable air conditioner a week ago to make sure my elderly dad doesn't fry, so I'll be sitting in one noisy room for the worst of it.
Might have to take a t-shirt out the freezer before going out anywhere.
Supposedly Truss has slept with most of the Tory Party but I am not sure if this just a silly rumour.
I think you should withdraw that allegation. And I find it very distasteful when people assume that just because a woman has made a success of business or politics, that sex might have something to do with it.
Likewise the assumption that women cannot enjoy sex for its own sake. It can be rather fun, or so I've heard.
My WeatherPro app (powered by German met models I think) now showing 40C for London on Tuesday
Absolutely unprecedented
Some apps show measured temp, some show “feels like”. For records, the measured temp is important, for the human experience, feels-like is.
Which is your data?
(I have booked a hotel for the duration.)
It will be actual measured temperature.
One thing noticeable about this heat is that unlike many of our normal hot days in summer, it will not be humid. Humidity might be as low as 20%, so it will feel more like opening an oven than sitting in a sauna. A wet t-shirt will dry very quickly but will also be very effective at cooling.
I rather extravagantly bought a portable air conditioner a week ago to make sure my elderly dad doesn't fry, so I'll be sitting in one noisy room for the worst of it.
Might have to take a t-shirt out the freezer before going out anywhere.
This portable air conditioner. Where and how does it vent the hot air? I ask in case you've made things worse by needing an open window.
That's a thought. If you must drive, maybe check the a/c is on recirculated air, rather than pulling in hot air from outside, although that will make it worse for Covid transmission!
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Apologies if you've already said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnbiVw_1FNs
The Drifters - Up on the Roof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puM1k-S86nE
Truss will be a puppet and the ERG will pull the strings as she desperately tries to prove her Leave credentials by starting a trade war with the EU and embarking on another two years of divisive politics .
Any sane Tory MP needs to get a grip and ensure Truss does not make the final 2 .
Put them on UC or minimum wage and their priorities for questioning would change.
The other option is to temporarily sleep downstairs if you can, where it's cooler anyay.
Was aware you were supporting him.
There may be a fair few Tory MPs thinking it's nice that Mark Francois with his 31K majority is recommending Liz Truss but we can't go for it.
I really want her to win now.
LD hold in Yeovil with a double digit drop in tory vote and 8% swing
Labour hold in North Tyneside but Tory vote up and a 6% swing to them since May
None is a completely clean break from it.
> generally mild winters and (at least through 20th-century) mild summers;
> relatively cheap electricity (hydro-electric provided by municipal utility);
> hence traditionally not much insulation and less air conditioning.
Worth mentioning that, for us, the North Pacific is the Great Moderator. Keeps it from getting sub-freezing as a rule in winter. And in the summer it's Nature's A/C. PROVIDE there is ON-shore air flow (from the Pacific inland) as opposed to OFF-shore (from deserts of Eastern WA into Puget Sound).
Tory vote in the North resilient tonight
Arden (Warwickshire) By-Election Result:
CON: 59.3% (-14.7)
LDM: 31.5% (+24.3)
LAB: 9.2% (-0.8)
No GRN (-8.9) as previous.
Conservative HOLD.
Changes w/ 2021.
It couldn't be clearer that Penny is the candidate for the Tories. She's who I fear the most as a Labour member but the country is more important - she might actually do a good job and get us off these pointless culture wars.
Are the backers expecting Liz to shit herself live on TV or something ?
Fair enough.
https://twitter.com/kenneththarp/status/1547356649647636482?s=21&t=feu6y2lq6pp7dS-Qyk6ViA
In Seattle, plenty of houses & apts have skylights. Good idea to do what you can to block them temporarily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle#Climate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Climate
Sunak less convincing on Ukraine. Deserves to lose for that reason alone.
The ERG remind me of the Judean People's Front Suicide Squad.
"That'll show em!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8
This opens the door for bullying by the Mail.
They work! (Have one that is spiting image of one WSC wore visiting Desert Rats).
PLUS gives "true" Tories proper "only mad dogs and Englishmen / go out in the noonday sun" Empire loyalist look.
Noël Coward - Mad Dogs and Englishmen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BifLPGi4X6A
She is in my opinion the best candidate for the country, and the best person to be PM. But I'm not convinced she'd win an election, but that's not really my concern since I'm not backing the Tories anymore, but I might again if Truss wins.
Wallet over country, I still want Rishi to win. Sorry.
Read: "a truly good individual that would put the UK interest before EU UK relations"
Macron doesn't hesitate to put French interests first and so he should, he's the President of France. The least we should expect of the UK PM is they'd do the same and stop pissing about trying to have "good relations". That's one thing Boris got right and I think Truss could be even better if she gets it. 👍
LAB: 62.2% (+1.6)
CON: 21.4% (+2.8)
GRN: 12.4% (-2.5)
LDM: 4.1% (-2.0)
Labour HOLD.
Changes w/ 2022.
Tooting a comfortable lab hold
General pattern tonight with 2 to come is Con vote collapsing/big drops where LD challenging/in the South, fairly static versus labour/further north. Means nothing as usual but an interesting cross section.
Still expect lab to gain one in Trusses seat
Like him or loathe him, Boris's critics had a litany of reasons they disliked him that was virtually endless. Truss made a funny speech about a decade ago and . . . that's about it. That's all her opponents ever harp on about, from a decade as a big beast at the top of Government all she's done wrong is say "that is a disgrace" nearly a decade ago. 🤷♂️
If all the Tories are going to offer is Labour's economic policies with a blue rosette we might as well have a Labour government anyway.
At least then we can have a Tory opposition waiting to pick up the pieces, rather than socialists waiting for when the Government implementing Labour's policies falls.
3 camels from a pack of 20 should be doable
Gotta be the value bet tonight,
But Mourdant v Starmer was worse (-15pts)
It was the poll the Sunak campaign used, as he was the only one who came out of it well (+1pt)
The English and the Dutch teamed up to fight the French over who got to be king of Spain. Using Germany as the battleground.
LAB: 36.2% (-5.1)
CON: 29.6% (+0.7)
CCP: 28.9% (+9.6)
ADF: 3.5% (+1.8)
TUSC: 1.8% (New)
No GRN (-7.1) as previous.
Labour HOLD.
Changes w/ 2022
Uninspiring Lab hold.in Coventry.
Just the Thetford/Truss result to come and they count in the morning
#PBTories will be a diminishing group (at least for a while
I wasn't suggesting she was successful because of sex but I can see how it might have come across that way.
But no surprise to see the usual suspect jump on the bandwagon, yawn.
Pork vs swine
Beef vs cow
etc
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1546186971235729410?s=20&t=gWrr_DGKDjwczxxmyZKCYA
https://twitter.com/TomTugendhat/status/1546055540618407936?s=20&t=gWrr_DGKDjwczxxmyZKCYA
But it’s fair leaver PM Penny owns that eventual success, we can’t give it to Truss at any point, that would be silly.
None of the 3 shortest in the betting impress me much. I suppose if I had to choose one it would be Sunak. He is clearly very bright. But he comes over as more wanting to be someone than to do something; a phrase used here in the inverse by Nick Palmer re Michael Gove - and by Sajid Javid in his resignation speech about himself. Rishi comes over to me as a faux Tony Blair. (Is that an oxymoron?)
The little I have seen of Penny in the past I have liked but Frost’s criticisms, Penny's lack of experience in government at the highest level and her appearances so far in this campaign have made me re-evaluate her. She is probably too lightweight to be next PM.
Nor does Truss impress me much. But she looks best placed to win now as the Goldilocks candidate. She has more right wing-ness than Penny or Rishi. She has established that she has sufficient Brexiteer credentials, (Baker is now backing her), despite originally voting Remain. She has experience at the highest level of government.
So I’m predicting Truss will be our next PM.
In Liz we Truss!
I believe its actually the Coventry Citizens Party
ADF are the alliance for democracy and freedom
TUSC are their usual Continuity Scargill selves
Absolutely unprecedented
Some absurd posturing on here tonight.
I am quite startled the government is not now dishing out major alerts. That’s life threatening heat, 3 days away
Which is your data?
(I have booked a hotel for the duration.)
If one of his chums had posted it, he'd have stayed silent. Because it's a leftie he plays the forum police.
And yes I knew that's where I'd seen it - it was posted on here.
You want to accuse me of that?
Can I suggest you take a step away from the keyboard.
Sunday-Tuesday are going to be intolerably hot to the point of UGH
2.12 Penny Mordaunt 47%
3.6 Liz Truss 28%
4.7 Rishi Sunak 21%
30 Kemi Badenoch
160 Tom Tugendhat
170 Dominic Raab
One thing noticeable about this heat is that unlike many of our normal hot days in summer, it will not be humid. Humidity might be as low as 20%, so it will feel more like opening an oven than sitting in a sauna. A wet t-shirt will dry very quickly but will also be very effective at cooling.
I rather extravagantly bought a portable air conditioner a week ago to make sure my elderly dad doesn't fry, so I'll be sitting in one noisy room for the worst of it.
Might have to take a t-shirt out the freezer before going out anywhere.
Not much of a mad dog or Englishman are you? 🤭
That's a thought. If you must drive, maybe check the a/c is on recirculated air, rather than pulling in hot air from outside, although that will make it worse for Covid transmission!