Despite becoming chancellor yesterday, Zahawi has been preparing a Crosby-approved plan to become prime minister behind the scenes, which includes cutting corporation tax and VAT and looking at stamp duty.
He is understood to be ready to activate the campaign immediately “if shit hits the fan” and the small team had been preparing a resignation letter centred on trust had he not been made chancellor.
Not necessarily. Zahawi has maybe a week in 11 Downing Street it seems during which he can cut taxes ostentatiously to shore up the PM, but in reality showing himself as the real tax cutter unlike Sunak before him, catapulting him up in many members estimations for the leadership race.
The speedy tax cutting budget is, I think, something that a lot of people are missing out the possible significance of. If its shoe horned in before Boris goes, his successor is stuck with it. Can you imagine sometime in August a new leader & chancellor saying, 'nah we are reversing all of that'. Not happening.
A emergency Finance Bill would need to pass the House surely?
There’s a Tory majority for unfunded tax cuts I reckon.
Steven Swinford @Steven_Swinford · 3m Told Boris Johnson is struggling to persuade people to replace key Cabinet roles and tonight
People just aren’t willing to risk their reputations
Some of those approached are already considering quitting themselves
He needs to remember that there is no constitutional requirement for ministers of the crown to be members of either house of parliament. Simply appoint his wife and the KGB guy as ministers. Nobody will care - remember that he has a personal mandate from the people of the world. So screw all these namby-pamby communist remainer Tory MPs.
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one. But I voted for labour in 2019, and actually regret not voting for Boris. Looking back, the danger was always infinetly greater with Corbyn than Boris. That is still true today. Can you imagine dealing with the situation in Ukraine with Corbyn as PM? There are far bigger issues than this 'trump lite' act of not leaving office when the game is probably up. The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
You've been a supporter of Corbyn AND Boris. Is there a corner naughty enough to contain the likes of you? Some kind of MC Escher painting is necessary. I don't think three dimensions is enough.
Despite becoming chancellor yesterday, Zahawi has been preparing a Crosby-approved plan to become prime minister behind the scenes, which includes cutting corporation tax and VAT and looking at stamp duty.
He is understood to be ready to activate the campaign immediately “if shit hits the fan” and the small team had been preparing a resignation letter centred on trust had he not been made chancellor.
Not necessarily. Zahawi has maybe a week in 11 Downing Street it seems during which he can cut taxes ostentatiously to shore up the PM, but in reality showing himself as the real tax cutter unlike Sunak before him, catapulting him up in many members estimations for the leadership race.
The speedy tax cutting budget is, I think, something that a lot of people are missing out the possible significance of. If its shoe horned in before Boris goes, his successor is stuck with it. Can you imagine sometime in August a new leader & chancellor saying, 'nah we are reversing all of that'. Not happening.
A emergency Finance Bill would need to pass the House surely?
Do you think enough Conservative MPs would rebel? Not sure of that.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
All 5 of them standing for parties with a realistic chance of forming a government, obv.
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
So be it. Boris won't be leading the Tory party in it and SKS might not be leading Labour. Mystery leaders knocking up mystery policies in the teeth of economic meltdown. What larks Pip
As stated before I registered a Conservative protest vote against Corbyn in the safe Labour seat of Huddersfield in 2019.
I contributed to Boris's vote share, but felt no risk I would be contributing to his MP count or majority, which turned out correct.
I had come to the conclusion, having gone LD in 2017 when there was a slight chance of a May landslide taking HD, that my vote hadn't been strong enough, and that taking an extra one off of the Labour majority by backing 2nd place, I was doing the most I could to get rid of Corbyn and aid the cause of a Social Democratic party of power.
My GE19 vote was delivered, not by Brexit, but by the election of SKS as leader.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one. But I voted for labour in 2019, and actually regret not voting for Boris. Looking back, the danger was always infinetly greater with Corbyn than Boris. That is still true today. Can you imagine dealing with the situation in Ukraine with Corbyn as PM? There are far bigger issues than this 'trump lite' act of not leaving office when the game is probably up. The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
Oh, go on then. Think I will. Must be the response.
"Message to Tory rebels" lol. Those Tory rebels are now the bulk of the Party.
I have no idea what Boris thinks he can achieve by hanging around now. It certainly isn't the furtherance of his legacy. Everything that has come into contact with him will be prone to being airbrushed from history. The longer he hangs around, the thicker the paint.
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
3. The twitter rumours about Carrie and Boris's relationship being on the rocks. Carrie thinking of leaving him for a much richer man, etc. Even if it's not true, the fact is it must be in Boris's head. What happens when he's no longer PM? Does the aphrodisiac wear off?
4. Assume that Boris is competing for the affections of his wife with a man (or men) much richer than he is. What Boris has is power. He can't compete, financially, but he is the PM.
...
I wonder what the Johnson ministry would have been like if he'd stayed with Marina?
That's something I've wondered about as well.
Boris needed someone to keep him at least reasonably on the 'straight and narrow' as he lacks the discipline and maturity to do so himself.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
Boris cited his mandate tonight as the reason to stay. That means you.
Yes and he is of course wrong.
Can’t be much fun being part of Boris’ figleaf.
Interesting to note that you, as well as @HYUFD, are choosing to believe what Boris says.
At least I never voted for the bugger. He was demonstrably unsuited to be pm.
OF COURSE HE WAS DEMONSTRABLY UNSUITED TO BE PM.
But he wasn't Corbyn.
Go back to my earliest posts on the subject and you will find me violently agreeing with you.
But he wasn't Corbyn so I voted for him.
Foolish.
Corbyn would let Ukraine twist in the wind.
Voting for anybody supporting THAT would have been foolish.
That does happen to be the policy of most of the world.
Thankfully not ours.
Indeed not, but the idea of not getting as enmeshed in it as we seem to be is hardly an unthinkable concept.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one. But I voted for labour in 2019, and actually regret not voting for Boris. Looking back, the danger was always infinetly greater with Corbyn than Boris. That is still true today. Can you imagine dealing with the situation in Ukraine with Corbyn as PM? There are far bigger issues than this 'trump lite' act of not leaving office when the game is probably up. The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
Of course Corbyn then spent four more years in office. Boris will be lucky to get four more days.
65 MPs though is the difference between the Tory majority in the Commons and not.
If Boris lost they would need to commit to support the new Tory leader as PM to avoid a general election
Why wouldn't they ?
Indeed. Their loyalty to him ends the second he has no gifts to bestow. Its literally just him and probably Mad Nad that would destroy the party over it all post defenestration
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
Despite becoming chancellor yesterday, Zahawi has been preparing a Crosby-approved plan to become prime minister behind the scenes, which includes cutting corporation tax and VAT and looking at stamp duty.
He is understood to be ready to activate the campaign immediately “if shit hits the fan” and the small team had been preparing a resignation letter centred on trust had he not been made chancellor.
Not necessarily. Zahawi has maybe a week in 11 Downing Street it seems during which he can cut taxes ostentatiously to shore up the PM, but in reality showing himself as the real tax cutter unlike Sunak before him, catapulting him up in many members estimations for the leadership race.
The speedy tax cutting budget is, I think, something that a lot of people are missing out the possible significance of. If its shoe horned in before Boris goes, his successor is stuck with it. Can you imagine sometime in August a new leader & chancellor saying, 'nah we are reversing all of that'. Not happening.
A emergency Finance Bill would need to pass the House surely?
Do you think enough Conservative MPs would rebel? Not sure of that.
I think they would. The new PM needs to have maximum flexibility to weather the economic crisis will be their thinking.
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one. But I voted for labour in 2019, and actually regret not voting for Boris. Looking back, the danger was always infinetly greater with Corbyn than Boris. That is still true today. Can you imagine dealing with the situation in Ukraine with Corbyn as PM? There are far bigger issues than this 'trump lite' act of not leaving office when the game is probably up. The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
Your fault.
Glad you own it.
I own keeping your man out. 100%. You own putting me in the position of having to do so.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one. But I voted for labour in 2019, and actually regret not voting for Boris. Looking back, the danger was always infinetly greater with Corbyn than Boris. That is still true today. Can you imagine dealing with the situation in Ukraine with Corbyn as PM? There are far bigger issues than this 'trump lite' act of not leaving office when the game is probably up. The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
Your fault.
Glad you own it.
Absolutely. And if the alternative were Corbyn again, I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff. .
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one.
The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
Yup. Boris could have shat through my letterbox and impregnated my wife and I’d still rather him than Corbyn.
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I did not vote in 2019. I voted LibDem in 2017. I might never bother voting ever again.
Despite becoming chancellor yesterday, Zahawi has been preparing a Crosby-approved plan to become prime minister behind the scenes, which includes cutting corporation tax and VAT and looking at stamp duty.
He is understood to be ready to activate the campaign immediately “if shit hits the fan” and the small team had been preparing a resignation letter centred on trust had he not been made chancellor.
Zahawi is either an absolute genius or a total fucking moron. Nothing in between. I am reserving judgement which till we have more evidence.
I’m going with genius. Just because, round about now, it would be totally fucking superb if it turned out there was a genius waiting to be prime minister. We need one
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
Of course Corbyn then spent four more years in office. Boris will be lucky to get four more days.
65 MPs though is the difference between the Tory majority in the Commons and not.
If Boris lost they would need to commit to support the new Tory leader as PM to avoid a general election
Why wouldn't they ?
We are in uncharted territory, it depends how Boris fanatical they are. Not completely impossible Boris could instantly form his own populist party, some of them defect to it and vote for a general election with the opposition
There aren’t anywhere near 65 such MPs. As soon as power slips from his fingers, the aura will disappear.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
So you wasted your vote.
At every election I have the choice of 2 parties - either of the ones with a chance of winning the seat. Voting Lib Dem or green round here is a waste of a vote, do you end up voting for the least worst of the main parties.
Don't you think that it's about time we did something about our electoral system if the best it can do is give us a choice between Corbyn and Johnson?
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I did not vote in 2019. I voted LibDem in 2017. I might never bother voting ever again.
Sorry, 1st line was to you, 2nd line was to the room. I didn't imagine you were a recent Conservative voter.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff. .
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I am probably in a minority of one.
The problems with lying etc are not good, but there is a much bigger picture.
Yes, the bigger picture is you didn't have to vote for either of them. If you voted for Corbyn, you were a numpty.
It's Farooq's fault everyone.
Corbyn was fucking useless, his supporters trebly so, and had that not been the case we would not be where we are now. Plenty of blame to go round,, and definitely no shortage for lefty fannies who effectively arranged for phatboi to be elected unopposed.
It's your fault
Stop wriggling
Examine your conscience deep down you know it.
Naughty corner with Farooq and TOPPING for you.
A corner of honour.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
Yup. Boris could have shat through my letterbox and impregnated my wife and I’d still rather him than Corbyn.
Are you sure he hasn't?
Pleased to see you taking responsibility for the complete mess.
Can someone check if one can prorogue the Conservative Party?
Indeed.
As entertaining as all this is for us anoraks on PB the Conservative Party is dragging the country into the gutter with these 3 yearly psychodrama's.
First we had the fool Cameron playing Russian Roulette with the electorate in the referendum and then flouncing off when it blew up in his face.
Then we had the dreaded Theresa May and the idiotic 2017 general election followed by all the paralysis of the 2017-2019 Parliament selfishly refusing the implement the referendum result and her eventual evisceration by the Tories.
Now we have all the trauma of the end days of Boris...
The Tory Party seems to think their own never ending soap opera is more important than the good governance of the country but I have a feeling people have lost patience now.
Whoever replaces Johnson is done for I think... A majority Labour government and a period in Opposition for the Tories to sort themselves out seems the only sensible way forward after this six year shambles..
Suella Braverman calling on Boris to resign live on Peston.
Guessing she'll have to go or she might get the sack too.
Just for giggles i hooe i wake up to Nadine and Mogg announcing its time to go and they are running on a timeshare for the top job. Nadine in the present and Mogg as Gladstone's replacement
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
Checked it, struggling to find a single thing there that's degrading, trashy or debased.
Especially for someone who claims to have lived hedonistic sex and drug fuelled bender of a life as a sex toy flint knapper.
That video is genius. It is the Decline and Fall of the American Empire in 55 seconds. It’s all in there, and there is so much to admire
The obese white girl at the end tonelessly screaming JUST FUCKING GAAAA at the black girls “twerking their asses” for the Rights of Women is like Otto Dix run through DALLE-9
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
Checked it, struggling to find a single thing there that's degrading, trashy or debased.
Especially for someone who claims to have lived hedonistic sex and drug fuelled bender of a life as a sex toy flint knapper.
That video is genius. It is the Decline and Fall of the American Empire in 55 seconds. It’s all in there, and there is so much to admire
The obese white girl at the end tonelessly screaming JUST FUCKING GAAAA at the black girls “twerking their asses” for the Rights of Women is like Otto Dix run through DALLE-9
What's wrong with any of that?
Is it the black girls you have an issue with? Or twerking? Or women having rights?
I'm struggling to see what you find objectionable. Do you think it'd be better if women knew their place was in a kitchen with no control over their own bodies and wore a burqa if they went out in public?
Just when I thought today couldn't get any more surreal and fucking ace and totally improbable. Shortly after 11pm the first open candidate for leader is. Suella Braverman! We need a Buddhist PM. Even one with no lineage. Go on. It'll be a laugh.
As stated before I registered a Conservative protest vote against Corbyn in the safe Labour seat of Huddersfield in 2019.
I contributed to Boris's vote share, but felt no risk I would be contributing to his MP count or majority, which turned out correct.
I had come to the conclusion, having gone LD in 2017 when there was a slight chance of a May landslide taking HD, that my vote hadn't been strong enough, and that taking an extra one off of the Labour majority by backing 2nd place, I was doing the most I could to get rid of Corbyn and aid the cause of a Social Democratic party of power.
My GE19 vote was delivered, not by Brexit, but by the election of SKS as leader.
Well done you.
You need to go to its my fault corner.
It's getting rather crowded over there.
Hang on, there. I missed the thread in which you disavowed Boris.
You'd have happily elected an actual real life Tory MP as recently as a month ago.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
So you wasted your vote.
At every election I have the choice of 2 parties - either of the ones with a chance of winning the seat. Voting Lib Dem or green round here is a waste of a vote, do you end up voting for the least worst of the main parties.
Don't you think that it's about time we did something about our electoral system if the best it can do is give us a choice between Corbyn and Johnson?
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
On the Contrary more equality, fairness, houses galore free Broadband, the NHS saved, a safer world or Boris.
Now Justice PPS calls for PM to go too. That's at least 3 ministers/PPS who have publicly called on Boris Johnson to resign but are still in their jobs. More sackings to come tomorrow? https://twitter.com/JasonMcCartney/status/1544804610484932612
Can someone check if one can prorogue the Conservative Party?
Indeed.
As entertaining as all this is for us anoraks on PB the Conservative Party is dragging the country into the gutter with these 3 yearly psychodrama's.
First we had the fool Cameron playing Russian Roulette with the electorate in the referendum and then flouncing off when it blew up in his face.
Then we had the dreaded Theresa May and the idiotic 2017 general election followed by all the paralysis of the 2017-2019 Parliament selfishly refusing the implement the referendum result and her eventual evisceration by the Tories.
Now we have all the trauma of the end days of Boris...
The Tory Party seems to think their own never ending soap opera is more important than the good governance of the country but I have a feeling people have lost patience now.
Whoever replaces Johnson is done for I think... A majority Labour government and a period in Opposition for the Tories to sort themselves out seems the only sensible way forward after this six year shambles..
What this really is, is the end point of the Tories' Europe obsession. Not Brexit. This goes way, way back to the 1990s when the fear of UKIP began to grip them and a sizeable and growing fraction of them would push the anti-Europe agenda to keep UKIPs tanks off the Tory lawn.
And it worked, right up to 2016 when they saddled themselves with Brexit.
And now we are here.
What will the Tory Party look like next week? Next month? Next year.
An extraordinary found video. Pro-choice activists “twerking” for the rights of women to abort.
Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
Checked it, struggling to find a single thing there that's degrading, trashy or debased.
Especially for someone who claims to have lived hedonistic sex and drug fuelled bender of a life as a sex toy flint knapper.
That video is genius. It is the Decline and Fall of the American Empire in 55 seconds. It’s all in there, and there is so much to admire
The obese white girl at the end tonelessly screaming JUST FUCKING GAAAA at the black girls “twerking their asses” for the Rights of Women is like Otto Dix run through DALLE-9
What's wrong with any of that?
Is it the black girls you have an issue with? Or twerking? Or women having rights?
I'm struggling to see what you find objectionable. Do you think it'd be better if women knew their place was in a kitchen with no control over their own bodies and wore a burqa if they went out in public?
Leon doesn't think it's seemly for women to act like that unless he's paid them for it
There seems to be a new thing of openly calling on the PM to go but not actually resigning. So what are you then? A freelance Minister? How do you serve as part of the PMs cabinet?
The @Telegraph report the whips’ office have crunched the numbers and worked out Boris Johnson would get just 65 confidence votes out of nearly 360 Tory MPs
Suella Braverman calling on Boris to resign live on Peston.
Guessing she'll have to go or she might get the sack too.
Just for giggles i hooe i wake up to Nadine and Mogg announcing its time to go and they are running on a timeshare for the top job. Nadine in the present and Mogg as Gladstone's replacement
Correction - Moog as Duke of Buckingham's replacement. (The one who got fragged in 1628.)
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
So you wasted your vote.
At every election I have the choice of 2 parties - either of the ones with a chance of winning the seat. Voting Lib Dem or green round here is a waste of a vote, do you end up voting for the least worst of the main parties.
Don't you think that it's about time we did something about our electoral system if the best it can do is give us a choice between Corbyn and Johnson?
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
On the Contrary more equality, fairness, houses galore free Broadband, the NHS saved, a safer world or Boris.
Yes, Boris then, if we must.
Or we can vote Boris then dump him without getting any of the insanity you wanted.
Just when I thought today couldn't get any more surreal and fucking ace and totally improbable. Shortly after 11pm the first open candidate for leader is. Suella Braverman! We need a Buddhist PM. Even one with no lineage. Go on. It'll be a laugh.
Jeez. These people are some kind of drug that is unavailable to the rest of us.
There seems to be a new thing of openly calling on the PM to go but not actually resigning. So what are you then? A freelance Minister? How do you serve as part of the PMs cabinet?
It's the BoZo playbook.
"Sack me, if you want. Otherwise STFU, I'm staying..."
"89 For the avoidance of doubt but without prejudice to any of the provisions of this Part, matters of Parliamentary discipline (not touching or concerning the ethics and integrity of a Member of Parliament or Peer) shall at all times remain the responsibility of the Chief Whip in the House of Commons or House of Lords, as the case may be."
The constitution also states that:
"“Member of Parliament” means a Member of the House of Commons in receipt of the Conservative Whip;" - This implies that a sitting MP who is not in receipt of the Conservative Whip cannot apply to be selected as the candidate of their conservative association.
So, who appoints the Chief Whip? The Parliament website makes reference to whips being appointed by their parties, but the government chief whip is also appointed as Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, which would imply this is an office appointed by the PM.
The Conservative Constitution doesn't appear to specify that the Chief Whip is appointed by the party leader. It's not clear to me who would be in charge of appointing the Chief Whip in the case that a new leader of the Conservative Party is elected, but the former leader and incumbent PM refuses to resign. I think Johnson might be in a position to remove the whip from the newly-elected leader of the Conservative Party, and thereby force their deselection as an official Conservative Party candidate for a subsequent general election.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
So you wasted your vote.
At every election I have the choice of 2 parties - either of the ones with a chance of winning the seat. Voting Lib Dem or green round here is a waste of a vote, do you end up voting for the least worst of the main parties.
Don't you think that it's about time we did something about our electoral system if the best it can do is give us a choice between Corbyn and Johnson?
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
On the Contrary more equality, fairness, houses galore free Broadband, the NHS saved, a safer world or Boris.
Zelenskyy nuked by Polaris as a Ukrainian Nazi Jew?
Now Justice PPS calls for PM to go too. That's at least 3 ministers/PPS who have publicly called on Boris Johnson to resign but are still in their jobs. More sackings to come tomorrow? https://twitter.com/JasonMcCartney/status/1544804610484932612
Have a hunch, that sacking and replacing top crown law officers may be more problematic than for run-of-the-mill politicos?
America is SO doomed. One shouldn’t laugh but I’d weep otherwise
Also, isn’t he… Chinese? A big tubby American Chinese guy? The same Chinese that are slaughtering the Uyghurs and dominating Asia? And he calls her the “fucking coloniser”
There seems to be a new thing of openly calling on the PM to go but not actually resigning. So what are you then? A freelance Minister? How do you serve as part of the PMs cabinet?
Yes this makes no sense. We have Schrodinger’s Cabinet.
There seems to be a new thing of openly calling on the PM to go but not actually resigning. So what are you then? A freelance Minister? How do you serve as part of the PMs cabinet?
"Consultancy" is all the rage. The working class are called agency workers.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
Nothing changes the hard fact that in 2019 there were two possible governments. That led by Jezza and that led by Boris. The tragedy of subsequent events does not alter at all the rational conviction that of that choice on that day Jezza was the more sub-optimal.
The rational decision was to do what I did and spoil your ballot. If you could not bring yourself to vote for one of the smaller parties either that is.
When you have two unacceptable choices, picking either one is not the logical action. refusing to pick either is the only sensible choice.
Of course this is based on the premise that both Johnson and Corbyn were as bad as each other. I know a lot of people didn't think that at the time which is why I will not berate them in the way Farooq does. But for me it seemed inevitable that where we are now was where we end up with Johnson in charge (generally rather than specifically) so the only sensible choice was to abstain.
I do not understand this at all. My ballot paper in 2019 had five options for Bootle. I did not pick Labour or the Conservatives. No one was forced to pick between the two. Everyone had more than two choices.
If people thought Johnson is bad but Corbyn is worse, so I'll vote Johnson, they clearly weren't looking at their ballot paper properly.
So you wasted your vote.
At every election I have the choice of 2 parties - either of the ones with a chance of winning the seat. Voting Lib Dem or green round here is a waste of a vote, do you end up voting for the least worst of the main parties.
Don't you think that it's about time we did something about our electoral system if the best it can do is give us a choice between Corbyn and Johnson?
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
On the Contrary more equality, fairness, houses galore free Broadband, the NHS saved, a safer world or Boris.
Yes, Boris then, if we must.
Or we can vote Boris then dump him without getting any of the insanity you wanted.
There seems to be a new thing of openly calling on the PM to go but not actually resigning. So what are you then? A freelance Minister? How do you serve as part of the PMs cabinet?
IF Clown wants, he can sack them pronto, at least in theory. That that ain't happened yet, maybe that says something?
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Check the people, the noise, the music, the degradation of everything. The moral trashiness, the sad debasement. America is finished. England must save herself
https://twitter.com/blacknessinxtra/status/1541390815041392640?s=21&t=3rgMmktA6IqrAdXrLYsFWQ
Mystery leaders knocking up mystery policies in the teeth of economic meltdown.
What larks Pip
You need to go to its my fault corner.
It's getting rather crowded over there.
Thing is, no one's wriggling.
We or at least I am saying I am very happy I voted for Boris instead of Jezza. Delighted. Relieved. You name it. Not wriggling.
I have no idea what Boris thinks he can achieve by hanging around now. It certainly isn't the furtherance of his legacy. Everything that has come into contact with him will be prone to being airbrushed from history. The longer he hangs around, the thicker the paint.
Boris needed someone to keep him at least reasonably on the 'straight and narrow' as he lacks the discipline and maturity to do so himself.
https://twitter.com/legalhackette/status/1544793501594001409
Glad you own it.
Especially for someone who claims to have lived hedonistic sex and drug fuelled bender of a life as a sex toy flint knapper.
Your fault you put Corbyn up as the alternative.
"I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that, should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er"
Guessing she'll have to go or she might get the sack too.
It has always been a poor system but now that even that is dictated by a few thousand self-selected and often extremist party members then the system is not fit for purpose.
The last election was a lose-lose situation whatever people did
Gosh.
Pleased to see you taking responsibility for the complete mess.
The corner is over there on the extreme right
Now it really is over.
Braverman is the lowest of the low.
As entertaining as all this is for us anoraks on PB the Conservative Party is dragging the country into the gutter with these 3 yearly psychodrama's.
First we had the fool Cameron playing Russian Roulette with the electorate in the referendum and then flouncing off when it blew up in his face.
Then we had the dreaded Theresa May and the idiotic 2017 general election followed by all the paralysis of the 2017-2019 Parliament selfishly refusing the implement the referendum result and her eventual evisceration by the Tories.
Now we have all the trauma of the end days of Boris...
The Tory Party seems to think their own never ending soap opera is more important than the good governance of the country but I have a feeling people have lost patience now.
Whoever replaces Johnson is done for I think... A majority Labour government and a period in Opposition for the Tories to sort themselves out seems the only sensible way forward after this six year shambles..
Everybody else has already said it
64 then. And counting down....
The obese white girl at the end tonelessly screaming JUST FUCKING GAAAA at the black girls “twerking their asses” for the Rights of Women is like Otto Dix run through DALLE-9
JRM, Nads, Boris himself and ...
Duguid, Anderson, Braverman etc all calling for him to go today, those aren't 'the usual suspects'. There can't be many left.
Is it the black girls you have an issue with? Or twerking? Or women having rights?
I'm struggling to see what you find objectionable. Do you think it'd be better if women knew their place was in a kitchen with no control over their own bodies and wore a burqa if they went out in public?
Shortly after 11pm the first open candidate for leader is.
Suella Braverman!
We need a Buddhist PM. Even one with no lineage.
Go on. It'll be a laugh.
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1544805461765013504
https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1544803361555451905
You'd have happily elected an actual real life Tory MP as recently as a month ago.
I never resolved to do as much.
Pt 1: https://twitter.com/Wtfportland1/status/1543012260330672128
Pt 2: https://twitter.com/Wtfportland1/status/1543012669090701312
And it worked, right up to 2016 when they saddled themselves with Brexit.
And now we are here.
What will the Tory Party look like next week? Next month? Next year.
Sources named three candidates they might back: Kemi Badenoch, Simon Clarke, Suella Braverman
Great to have a story stood up so quickly! https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1544804946826125318
That was the beginning of the end of my support for him.
https://twitter.com/Wtfportland1/status/1544670364701052930?s=20&t=RrsBM_xXfJozUZ-rqIvR9A
Or we can vote Boris then dump him without getting any of the insanity you wanted.
Some kind of evil triple skunk laced with LSD.
"Sack me, if you want. Otherwise STFU, I'm staying..."
"89 For the avoidance of doubt but without prejudice to any of the provisions of this Part, matters of Parliamentary discipline (not touching or concerning the ethics and integrity of a Member of Parliament or Peer) shall at all times remain the responsibility of the Chief Whip in the House of Commons or House of Lords, as the case may be."
The constitution also states that:
"“Member of Parliament” means a Member of the House of Commons in receipt of the
Conservative Whip;" - This implies that a sitting MP who is not in receipt of the Conservative Whip cannot apply to be selected as the candidate of their conservative association.
So, who appoints the Chief Whip? The Parliament website makes reference to whips being appointed by their parties, but the government chief whip is also appointed as Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, which would imply this is an office appointed by the PM.
The Conservative Constitution doesn't appear to specify that the Chief Whip is appointed by the party leader. It's not clear to me who would be in charge of appointing the Chief Whip in the case that a new leader of the Conservative Party is elected, but the former leader and incumbent PM refuses to resign. I think Johnson might be in a position to remove the whip from the newly-elected leader of the Conservative Party, and thereby force their deselection as an official Conservative Party candidate for a subsequent general election.
With all the guilt ridden PB Tories frantically trying to find someone else to blame.
I suggest you look in your mirrors.
Goodnight.
We all make mistakes as the dales said climbing off the dustbin
As serious candidates.
Seriously?
America is SO doomed. One shouldn’t laugh but I’d weep otherwise
Also, isn’t he… Chinese? A big tubby American Chinese guy? The same Chinese that are slaughtering the Uyghurs and dominating Asia? And he calls her the “fucking coloniser”
The Left has carefully constructed this madness
Buckle up! https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1544807796276879365/photo/1