I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
If he was Gough Whitlam, she'd already have done so
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
Sacking Gove is a petty act of vindictive revenge... The last act of possibly the worst man to hold the office of Prime Minister. The damage to the Conservatives is severe, one wonders if a vicious and untrammelled leadership election might risk the party actually falling apart.
A certain amount of Karma for the Conservatives here, after all they did know the guy was a wrong un. "Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad"
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
1. A Hunger for Power & Dominance 2. Devious or Deceptive Tendencies 3. Ruthlessness in the Pursuit of Their Goals 4. Hostile or Aggressive Towards Others 5. Easily Angered or Irritated 6. Irresponsible Decision Making 7. Superficial Charm & Powers of Persuasion 8. Broken Moral Compass or Limited Conscience 9. Few Close Bonds or Relationships 10. Manipulative Tendencies 11. Entitlement & Impunity 12. Socially Deviant 13. Cheap Thrill-Seeking Tendencies 14. Opportunistic in all the Wrong Ways 15. Emotional Detachment
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
Having survived today, I'm struggling to believe Boris is going to go quietly if/when the 1922 change the rules next week and the Tories finally no confidence him.
He's not a lunatic. You may disagree with his actions but they have a logic to it. There also might be a fairly sized chunk of the population who admires him for fighting back. Reading through the Twitter comments (always a bad move), there's a bit more support than you might think.
Re being hated etc etc, the Tories are six percentage points behind Labour, Yes, Davey is winning by-elections. Think he''ll do well when he's asked in a GE "what's a woman" and stumbles like SKS does?
I think he will eventually go but I don't think he should resign - if they want to get rid of him that much, do a VONC and show some balls.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
The logic is that if he can't be PM he'll burn his party down with him and do as much damage to the country as he can.
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
If Starmer vonc , decent Tories should now vote for it. An impossible, painful position, but the right thing to do.
I wrote about this on the previous thread. All it would take would be Sir Beer Korma sharing a platform with Sir Graham Brady Old Lady and clearly telling the public that Labour won’t seek a GE - they are just doing it for national interest.
Look what happened the last time Labour got together with the Tories on the same platform of 'national interest'. In Scotland in 2014. And what happened in 2015.
If any party should commit electoral suicide, it should be the Tories. Their chunder, their need to clean up the technicolor yawn.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
Why? Her Majesty will be putting her feet up watching Midsomer Murders on repeat telling the Tory Party it is up to them to remove their leader not her and Boris he cannot have a general election without a parliamentary vote first.
She will then let them fight it out between them while she watches Wimbledon tomorrow on TV and tell them to call back once one of them has won
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
Gove is —— WAS —— about the only effective minister left. Effectively operating what could be said to be the governments domestic policy.
Gove was also doing reasonably well at sorting out the cladding crisis. Going after the companies who constructed the sub-standard buildings, rather than the poor leaseholders who bought them. The stuff he was coming up to solve the crisis wasn't perfect, but way, way, way better than the loathesome Jenrick who came before him.
Gove's attitude towards the whole cladding / leasehold debacle warmed me to him substantially. One of the few front line politicians of the Johnson era I actually respect.
Gove is a great loss to the civil service. He’s an excellent executive who plans well, is across his brief, and devises and executes good plans well. Sadly, when put in a position he’s ideologically blinkered over he executes terrible plans to perfection.
Executes, yes. Devises, rather less so.
The other issue is his utter inflexibility, which isn't just ideology. He genuinely believes he and his mates are brilliant and experts are thick.
I think that’s unfair, Gove has genuinely good ideas from time to time and he is quite smart. It’s just when he gets his teeth into a bad idea you know he’ll see it through to the stupid conclusion.
The PM’s priority is to stabilise the government, set a clear direction for the country and continue to deliver on the promises he made and the British public voted for.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
Charles would probably have made his views clear in a public broadcast weeks ago but she is wider and she'll need political cover first.
So the 1922 voting no confidence and Boris refusing to go, or a VoNC in HMG in the House but an alternative government being immediately offered to her so she can deny a general election until the new leader/PM is in place and taken a view.
If Starmer vonc , decent Tories should now vote for it. An impossible, painful position, but the right thing to do.
I wrote about this on the previous thread. All it would take would be Sir Beer Korma sharing a platform with Sir Graham Brady Old Lady and clearly telling the public that Labour won’t seek a GE - they are just doing it for national interest.
Yes. But following a VONC it is Boris who goes to HM not GB or SKS. HM may or may not dissolve parliament. Especially as there is no clear person to call for to form a government (Tories all over the place on this) GE probably the only option.
How can a party that dispatched a political colossus like Maggie so brutally be making such a balls up of getting rid of a loser like Boris?
I think the prism of 24 hour news changes impressions. It took two attempts to get Thatcher and the second time around she was going to go “on and on”. This is day one of attempt two on Boris.
The PM’s priority is to stabilise the government, set a clear direction for the country and continue to deliver on the promises he made and the British public voted for.
Thing is this is always how it has to be. You fire a bunch of people for one reason (Brexit to start with) and then you realise that the only way you can try to remain in control is to keep on firing them.
Because you have no compelling arguments or in this case policies.
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
He's not a lunatic. You may disagree with his actions but they have a logic to it. There also might be a fairly sized chunk of the population who admires him for fighting back. Reading through the Twitter comments (always a bad move), there's a bit more support than you might think.
Re being hated etc etc, the Tories are six percentage points behind Labour, Yes, Davey is winning by-elections. Think he''ll do well when he's asked in a GE "what's a woman" and stumbles like SKS does?
I think he will eventually go but I don't think he should resign - if they want to get rid of him that much, do a VONC and show some balls.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
The logic is that if he can't be PM he'll burn his party down with him and do as much damage to the country as he can.
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
The Tory MPs fucked it a few weeks ago when they didn't vote him out. There was never going to be any recovery, even then. It was only going to get worse and yet the fucked it. All those payroll idiots resigning now had the chance. Bunch of absolute c***s. They have fucked this country over and now we need swift action from the cabinet to force him out tonight.
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
Is there anything in the recall petition rules that allows the voters of Uxbridge to rid us of this troublesome beast?
Not at this stage. Potentially, he may be suspended from the House for ten days or more for misleading Parliament over Partygate. But that's some way off, and he'll be long gone by then.
Well it shows Boris Johnson's commitment to levelling up.
I fear it may have been missed that after Gove has been sacked, there is now not a single Minister left in the Department for Levelling Up - the flagship policy of the government
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
Charles would probably have made his views clear in a public broadcast weeks ago but she is wider and she'll need political cover first.
So the 1922 voting no confidence and Boris refusing to go, or a VoNC in HMG in the House but an alternative government being immediately offered to her so she can deny a general election until the new leader/PM is in place and taken a view.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
Nah, he didn't serve between July 2016 and June 2017.
Mrs May fired him from the cabinet/government when she became PM.
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
Nah, he didn't serve between July 2016 and June 2017.
Mrs May fired him from the cabinet when she became PM.
Really? I had forgotten.
Clearly I'm not nearly obsessive enough about his career!
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever had. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
If Starmer vonc , decent Tories should now vote for it. An impossible, painful position, but the right thing to do.
I wrote about this on the previous thread. All it would take would be Sir Beer Korma sharing a platform with Sir Graham Brady Old Lady and clearly telling the public that Labour won’t seek a GE - they are just doing it for national interest.
Look what happened the last time Labour got together with the Tories on the same platform of 'national interest'. In Scotland in 2014. And what happened in 2015.
If any party should commit electoral suicide, it should be the Tories. Their chunder, their need to clean up the technicolor yawn.
Agree with this. The idea that Labour will pull the Tories out of the fire, in the name of the interests of the tor- nation is pretty fanciful.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
No he isn't - he was sacked by May when she came in in 2016. He returned in 2017, but was a backbencher for a while.
Well it shows Boris Johnson's commitment to levelling up.
I fear it may have been missed that after Gove has been sacked, there is now not a single Minister left in the Department for Levelling Up - the flagship policy of the government
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
BoZo is the worst PM she's ever had. A novel approach would be warranted
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
He's not a lunatic. You may disagree with his actions but they have a logic to it. There also might be a fairly sized chunk of the population who admires him for fighting back. Reading through the Twitter comments (always a bad move), there's a bit more support than you might think.
Re being hated etc etc, the Tories are six percentage points behind Labour, Yes, Davey is winning by-elections. Think he''ll do well when he's asked in a GE "what's a woman" and stumbles like SKS does?
I think he will eventually go but I don't think he should resign - if they want to get rid of him that much, do a VONC and show some balls.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
The logic is that if he can't be PM he'll burn his party down with him and do as much damage to the country as he can.
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
The Tory MPs fucked it a few weeks ago when they didn't vote him out. There was never going to be any recovery, even then. It was only going to get worse and yet the fucked it. All those payroll idiots resigning now had the chance. Bunch of absolute c***s. They have fucked this country over and now we need swift action from the cabinet to force him out tonight.
Goodnight all, I'm off to bed. Want to be well rested for my interview tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to report back soon with news of my employment.
If Starmer vonc , decent Tories should now vote for it. An impossible, painful position, but the right thing to do.
I wrote about this on the previous thread. All it would take would be Sir Beer Korma sharing a platform with Sir Graham Brady Old Lady and clearly telling the public that Labour won’t seek a GE - they are just doing it for national interest.
Look what happened the last time Labour got together with the Tories on the same platform of 'national interest'. In Scotland in 2014. And what happened in 2015.
If any party should commit electoral suicide, it should be the Tories. Their chunder, their need to clean up the technicolor yawn.
Agree with this. The idea that Labour will pull the Tories out of the fire, in the name of the interests of the tor- nation is pretty fanciful.
And if they win the resulting GE then nobody will believe that SKS did it out of a sense of duty to Her Maj etc.
Well it shows Boris Johnson's commitment to levelling up.
I fear it may have been missed that after Gove has been sacked, there is now not a single Minister left in the Department for Levelling Up - the flagship policy of the government
He's not a lunatic. You may disagree with his actions but they have a logic to it. There also might be a fairly sized chunk of the population who admires him for fighting back. Reading through the Twitter comments (always a bad move), there's a bit more support than you might think.
Re being hated etc etc, the Tories are six percentage points behind Labour, Yes, Davey is winning by-elections. Think he''ll do well when he's asked in a GE "what's a woman" and stumbles like SKS does?
I think he will eventually go but I don't think he should resign - if they want to get rid of him that much, do a VONC and show some balls.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
The logic is that if he can't be PM he'll burn his party down with him and do as much damage to the country as he can.
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
The Tory MPs fucked it a few weeks ago when they didn't vote him out. There was never going to be any recovery, even then. It was only going to get worse and yet the fucked it. All those payroll idiots resigning now had the chance. Bunch of absolute c***s. They have fucked this country over and now we need swift action from the cabinet to force him out tonight.
Mass resignations. Now.
It was obvious to the vast majority of us that he had to go. How could it not be obvious to them?
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
ConHome commenters are not Tory voters or members.
How can a party that dispatched a political colossus like Maggie so brutally be making such a balls up of getting rid of a loser like Boris?
Ultimately, Thatcher had enough respect for her colleagues, her country, and her reputation to take the whiskey and revolver, and step outside.
Johnson is a selfish arsehole - he's downed the scotch and shot Gove.
Once saw the difference between a bounder and a cad described thusly:
> a bounder will embezzle the mess fund, impregnate the colonel's daughter, desert the regiment - then when war is declared, return to take his medicine and join the fight.
> a cad will do the first three - and never come back.
Reckon Boris Johnson will follow the cad's path - plus ghost a book about it and take to the lecture circuit.
Even after Trump's antics in 2020 the GOP have not disappeared
Look at the polls. Boris might be Britain Trump, but the UK electorate has been repulsed by his crap in a way that hasn’t happened in the US.
This will do severe damage to a party that’s never been truly loved, but that’s supposed to be good at government.
Has it? Around a third of the electorate are still voting Tory and it was the unpopularity of the Biden administration that revived the GOP not any love for them
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
ConHome commenters are not Tory voters or members.
And yet they tend to predict leadership elections well. I’d like to see your evidence.
Goodnight all, I'm off to bed. Want to be well rested for my interview tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to report back soon with news of my employment.
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if someone just put a bullet in his head.
Calm down. Setting a precedent of murder as a constitutional solution because we can't wait a few days wouldn't be great for the country.
He doesn't deserve such a quick ending.
Johnson deserves to be locked in a cell with nothing for company but a TV playing Chris Whitty public health information broadcasts on a continuous loop.
And to be forced to wear a fucking face mask. Permanently.
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country," Mr Duddridge said.
"I expect him to make senior cabinet appointments this evening and am looking forward to hearing what the PM and his fantastic Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi have to say tomorrow."
He initially said there would be a joint plan for the economy laid out by Mr Johnson and Mr Zahawi tomorrow, but moments later said it would be next week."
Honestly, I wouldn't be upset if someone just put a bullet in his head.
Calm down. Setting a precedent of murder as a constitutional solution because we can't wait a few days wouldn't be great for the country.
He doesn't deserve such a quick ending.
Johnson deserves to be locked in a cell with nothing for company but a TV playing Chris Whitty public health information broadcasts on a continuous loop.
And to be forced to wear a fucking face mask. Permanently.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
Not her calling the shots any more.
She won't appoint any new PM until the current PM has clearly lost a vote of confidence by the majority party in the Commons and an alternative leader has won that confidence
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
She got involved in the Indyref in 2014.
Do you mean when your mate claimed she'd been "purrrrrrrrrring down the phone" like Eartha Kitt
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
ConHome commenters are not Tory voters or members.
And yet they tend to predict leadership elections well. I’d like to see your evidence.
Nah, the ConHome polls are done by a polling company of certified members, not the commenters.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
She got involved in the Indyref in 2014.
She didn't, she told a few well wishers to 'think carefully' not even 'to vote No'
Even after Trump's antics in 2020 the GOP have not disappeared
Look at the polls. Boris might be Britain Trump, but the UK electorate has been repulsed by his crap in a way that hasn’t happened in the US.
This will do severe damage to a party that’s never been truly loved, but that’s supposed to be good at government.
It's also not exactly good advertising for the Tories to compare them with the Republicans. I can't imagine our Roger doing a commercial: "Come to London! Almost as many car thieves as SF!"
Brew Dog asking which of the following people want put into limited production: Bojo Bogo Resignation Nation Bye Bye Big Dog Boris Lie-PA
Workplace Bullying and Sexism
You need to be, not whiter than white, but also not complete and utter shits yourselves, for this sort of thing to work
Sadly the Brew Dog ethos has become seriously shit. But I like their beer and they are funny. So meh. I could boycott them, but they wouldn't notice and I would.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
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What a pitiful spectacle.
A certain amount of Karma for the Conservatives here, after all they did know the guy was a wrong un. "Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad"
1. A Hunger for Power & Dominance
2. Devious or Deceptive Tendencies
3. Ruthlessness in the Pursuit of Their Goals
4. Hostile or Aggressive Towards Others
5. Easily Angered or Irritated
6. Irresponsible Decision Making
7. Superficial Charm & Powers of Persuasion
8. Broken Moral Compass or Limited Conscience
9. Few Close Bonds or Relationships
10. Manipulative Tendencies
11. Entitlement & Impunity
12. Socially Deviant
13. Cheap Thrill-Seeking Tendencies
14. Opportunistic in all the Wrong Ways
15. Emotional Detachment
I can't see anything there that reminds me of BJ
That Gove is just a four-letter word
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
If any party should commit electoral suicide, it should be the Tories. Their chunder, their need to clean up the technicolor yawn.
Drills you through your heart
Gove kills
Scars you from the start
She will then let them fight it out between them while she watches Wimbledon tomorrow on TV and tell them to call back once one of them has won
The first job of the new 1922 committee is to take a long, hard look at their rule book.
The PM’s priority is to stabilise the government, set a clear direction for the country and continue to deliver on the promises he made and the British public voted for.
9:28 PM · Jul 6, 2022"
https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1544780226307264512
https://twitter.com/richardmorrisuk/status/1544780501390692357
So the 1922 voting no confidence and Boris refusing to go, or a VoNC in HMG in the House but an alternative government being immediately offered to her so she can deny a general election until the new leader/PM is in place and taken a view.
Honestly, the shit she has to deal with aged 96.
Johnson is a selfish arsehole - he's downed the scotch and shot Gove.
(Bring it on).
Because you have no compelling arguments or in this case policies.
Plus you are a lying scumbag, obvs.
Come to think of it Incitatus probably puts Nad to shame in administrative competence and just as loyal if you have a sack of carrots.
Mass resignations. Now.
Especially since it surely destroys his chances of survival.
Incidentally, Gove is of course the only person left to have served continuously since 2010, although he was briefly technically outside the cabinet in 2014-15.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
Mrs May fired him from the cabinet/government when she became PM.
https://twitter.com/DavidWooding/status/1544782995365806086
1. Starmer vonc
2. Some 1922 contrivance next week
3. Boris declares war on Russia.
Brew Dog asking which of the following people want put into limited production:
Bojo Bogo
Resignation Nation
Bye Bye Big Dog
Boris Lie-PA
Clearly I'm not nearly obsessive enough about his career!
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
I do wonder what he was up to today on the phone......
Boris is a dorkus of the morkus porkus
Boris might be Britain Trump, but the UK electorate has been repulsed by his crap in a way that hasn’t happened in the US.
This will do severe damage to a party that’s never been truly loved, but that’s supposed to be good at government.
You need to be, not whiter than white, but also not complete and utter shits yourselves, for this sort of thing to work
> a bounder will embezzle the mess fund, impregnate the colonel's daughter, desert the regiment - then when war is declared, return to take his medicine and join the fight.
> a cad will do the first three - and never come back.
Reckon Boris Johnson will follow the cad's path - plus ghost a book about it and take to the lecture circuit.
https://twitter.com/MrJonDePlume/status/1544771621566746627
And to be forced to wear a fucking face mask. Permanently.
Senior No 10 source putting a positive spin on struggles to fill vacant ministerial posts:
"Maybe this is a good opportunity to slim down government. We are focusing on delivering and the economy and this is an opportunity to do less better”
https://twitter.com/Smyth_Chris/status/1544784987618164736
And to be forced to wear a fucking face mask. Permanently.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone