I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
She got involved in the Indyref in 2014.
She didn't, she told a few well wishers to 'think carefully' not even 'to vote No'
And interpreted, rioghtly, in all the papers as massive involvement.
Well it shows Boris Johnson's commitment to levelling up.
I fear it may have been missed that after Gove has been sacked, there is now not a single Minister left in the Department for Levelling Up - the flagship policy of the government
Well it shows Boris Johnson's commitment to levelling up.
I fear it may have been missed that after Gove has been sacked, there is now not a single Minister left in the Department for Levelling Up - the flagship policy of the government
Brew Dog asking which of the following people want put into limited production: Bojo Bogo Resignation Nation Bye Bye Big Dog Boris Lie-PA
Workplace Bullying and Sexism
You need to be, not whiter than white, but also not complete and utter shits yourselves, for this sort of thing to work
Sadly the Brew Dog ethos has become seriously shit. But I like their beer and they are funny. So meh. I could boycott them, but they wouldn't notice and I would.
T-shirts for sale: 'Conservatives Do It Bloodier' , £15 quid...
I got a text from a good friend who once described himself as a typical dictatorial liberal, ie in his eyes he is a bit to the left but insistent that everyone else must think the same. His message about Boris was 'brass balls' and he has a point even if the brass is actually firmly on Johnson's neck.
Whilst the Hitler bunker comparisons are blindingly obvious I found one closer to home, that just seems to fit the mentality. I grew up with a bloke who killed a well known name in the local community. He promptly holed up in a house in the area and pretty much said' come ahead and try to kill me then'. Did not give two fucks.
There, minus the handgun and killing, is Boris right now. I have come to the conclusion that he is of that 'fuck you all mentality'. I am not sure its about the narcissist in him anymore.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
She got involved in the Indyref in 2014.
She didn't, she told a few well wishers to 'think carefully' not even 'to vote No'
Ironically, you never think at all before you vote. You make a virtue out of never changing, ever.
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country…
This is delusional stuff. The only mandate he has in his constituency vote at the general election, and the until now support of Tory MPs - each of whom has their own electoral mandate. He has lost the latter, utterly, and if he manages to call an election will lose the former as well.
Who had "coalition of chaos" in the Tory word bucket sweepstakes?
From the beeb: "Rather, the source goes on to say, it's about giving Johnson either a "fresh chancellor and new programme, that Rishi was not prepared to do" or "spend months ripping each other apart to elect a leader without a mandate - coalition of chaos and Labour who will break up Britain". "
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country…
This is delusional stuff. The only mandate he has in his constituency vote at the general election, and the until now support of Tory MPs - each of whom has their own electoral mandate. He has lost the latter, utterly, and if he manages to call an election will lose the former as well.
‘Buoyant mood’ has a pathological sound to it,
Correction - "Buoyant mood" has a pharmaceutical sound to it.
Did Boris and Co only just notice that Michael Gove is a “ tiny two inch long pungent lying snake of a man, with rotting teeth and rheumy eyes, who sneaks down alleys every night to eat the dung of Frenchmen as he masturbates his thirteen evil penises”?
i mean, that’s the kind of thing a guy notices, early on in a friendship
Yet apparently the Boris camp only spotted it today?
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
He's not a lunatic. You may disagree with his actions but they have a logic to it. There also might be a fairly sized chunk of the population who admires him for fighting back. Reading through the Twitter comments (always a bad move), there's a bit more support than you might think.
Re being hated etc etc, the Tories are six percentage points behind Labour, Yes, Davey is winning by-elections. Think he''ll do well when he's asked in a GE "what's a woman" and stumbles like SKS does?
I think he will eventually go but I don't think he should resign - if they want to get rid of him that much, do a VONC and show some balls.
I think we've reached the point where Her Majesty has to be advised to dismiss Johnson as Prime Minister.
It's clear that we have a lunatic in No. 10. A man who whose grasp on reality is similar to that of Adolf Hitler in April 1945. The public hate him; his ministers hate him; his backbenchers hate him; the opposition MP's hate him.
He's a shitstain, who needs to be scrubbed down the S Bend.
The logic is that if he can't be PM he'll burn his party down with him and do as much damage to the country as he can.
It's the logic of a child throwing a wild tantrum.
The Tory MPs fucked it a few weeks ago when they didn't vote him out. There was never going to be any recovery, even then. It was only going to get worse and yet the fucked it. All those payroll idiots resigning now had the chance. Bunch of absolute c***s. They have fucked this country over and now we need swift action from the cabinet to force him out tonight.
Mass resignations. Now.
It was obvious to the vast majority of us that he had to go. How could it not be obvious to them?
Organisational culture. The organisation believes that the organisation is good. The organisation does not see itself as others see it. You know the really dull surveys yougov do? Would you feel proud to work for company x, etc? That's because organisations can't see themselves as others see them.
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
ConHome commenters are not Tory voters or members.
They are more likely to be Tory voters than Labour or LibDems. Left-leaning they are not
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I certainly won't, he still beat Corbyn and got Brexit done and I make no apology for voting for that
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I certainly won't, he still beat Corbyn and got Brexit done and I make no apology for voting for that
"done". Must tell my chum in Belfast. He will be relieved to hear that.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
Actually I did not vote for either Johnson or Hunt even though I had a members vote at the time
However, my objection to Johnson started with Paterson went through wallpapergate and partygate and for weeks now I have been calling for his resignation and stated on many occasions my support for Aaron Bell and the 148
I have no problem with brexit and Johnson did well on covid and Ukraine
He utterly disgusts me tonight and the only consolation is he will be gone next week when the 1922 deal with him, if not before
Who had "coalition of chaos" in the Tory word bucket sweepstakes?
From the beeb: "Rather, the source goes on to say, it's about giving Johnson either a "fresh chancellor and new programme, that Rishi was not prepared to do" or "spend months ripping each other apart to elect a leader without a mandate - coalition of chaos and Labour who will break up Britain". "
Lab will break up Britain? The NI protocol says hello.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I certainly won't, he still beat Corbyn and got Brexit done and I make no apology for voting for that
I make allowances for the monomaniacal, brain damaged, and educationally subnormal.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
He was a means to an end on Brexit, and avoided Corbyn. Would do it again even knowing what I know now. We were faced with an impossible choice.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
Goodnight all, I'm off to bed. Want to be well rested for my interview tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to report back soon with news of my employment.
Who had "coalition of chaos" in the Tory word bucket sweepstakes?
From the beeb: "Rather, the source goes on to say, it's about giving Johnson either a "fresh chancellor and new programme, that Rishi was not prepared to do" or "spend months ripping each other apart to elect a leader without a mandate - coalition of chaos and Labour who will break up Britain". "
"PM in 'buoyant mood' and will announce economic plan with new chancellor next week Boris Johnson's parliamentary private secretary James Duddridge has told Sky News the PM is in a "buoyant mood and will fight on".
"He has a 14 million mandate and so much to do for the country…
This is delusional stuff. The only mandate he has in his constituency vote at the general election, and the until now support of Tory MPs - each of whom has their own electoral mandate. He has lost the latter, utterly, and if he manages to call an election will lose the former as well.
‘Buoyant mood’ has a pathological sound to it,
Correction - "Buoyant mood" has a pharmaceutical sound to it.
Quite so
He may not be a natural caffeine head, but lots of people who aren't still take a lot of it out of greed, self indulgence, opportunism etc if they happen to be in a milieu where it is widely on offer, for free. looks increasingly like a latte boi to me
The party elects a new leader, they now hold the confidence of the house. Removal vans at No. 10 on the double. Simply he will be forcibly removed from office if he doesn't go willingly.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Other parties were, in any case, available: 'LD' and 'SNP' and (appropriately enough here) 'PC', not to mention 'MRLP'. So this attempt to blame Mr Corbyn is daft anyway.
Some of the comments over at ConHome are remarkable. There are people over there who think Boris is too soft on the EU, all his critics are secret Remoaners (good riddance to them, apparently!) and they would vote for him tomorrow. And he can set up his own Boris Party and they will join up.
Britain's Trump has arrived and the Right's fringes have gone certifiable!
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I certainly won't, he still beat Corbyn and got Brexit done and I make no apology for voting for that
I make allowances for the monomaniacal, brain damaged, and educationally subnormal.
It would be a bit hypocritical not to wouldn't it?
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
Yes, and every 2019 Labour voter deserves the same opprobrium. Voting either Conservative or Labour in 2019 was an idiotic lapse of judgement for anyone who was in possession of their faculties. You spent so long obsessing over Tweedledum you forgot you were voting for Tweedledee.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
So so so happy we avoided all that chaos with Ed Miliband
A lot of people keep making this joke. Does r really work though does it, as that Parliament was due to end in 2020. Hard to know, but in that counter factual I suspect Boris would still have been PM by now, and we’d be leaving the EU following its Covid failures.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
I certainly won't, he still beat Corbyn and got Brexit done and I make no apology for voting for that
I make allowances for the monomaniacal, brain damaged, and educationally subnormal.
It would be a bit hypocritical not to wouldn't it?
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
And if you put up magic Grandpa when you could have put up a realistic alternative you own the rest of it, and the majority, you silly little man.
At that point even I would say he would have to go but we are not there yet
At this point I would not be surprised if the 1922 somehow fail or equivocate on changing the rules in the first place, thus meaning no second VONC in the first place.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
I don't believe in a Monarch who is totally passive as on very particular occasions they might need to make decisions but I'm very queasy about the idea of sacking a prime minister.
What if all the permanent secretaries were to advise HM that the government can no longer function?
She won't "sack" her PM. HMQ is the most non-political Monarch we've ever head. In 70 years she's never got involved... that's not going to change at the age of 96.
She got involved in the Indyref in 2014.
She didn't, she told a few well wishers to 'think carefully' not even 'to vote No'
'Peter Hunt the BBC's Royal Correspondent at the time recalls how keen the Palace was to get the Queen's, "Off the Cuff", indy referendum remark onto the BBC. They phoned him to make sure it was aired.'
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
I have little sympathy for supposed Tories who enabled Boris to power. The Big Gs and Casino Royales.
It was always going to end like this.
Um, I voted for Hunt.
I did vote Tory in the 2019GE, like millions of others, because the alternative was Corbyn and my local MP was Damian Hinds - who's sane.
I am pleased, PLEASED, I voted Lib Dem then [1]. Even as a Leaver, I knew Corbyn was wrong and had bad feelings about Johnson. I think I was right in both respects.
[1] The candidate therefore got 2 votes! Best non-Labour result in Bootle since the Stone Age.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
Boris cited his mandate tonight as the reason to stay. That means you.
Gove is —— WAS —— about the only effective minister left. Effectively operating what could be said to be the governments domestic policy.
Gove was also doing reasonably well at sorting out the cladding crisis. Going after the companies who constructed the sub-standard buildings, rather than the poor leaseholders who bought them. The stuff he was coming up to solve the crisis wasn't perfect, but way, way, way better than the loathesome Jenrick who came before him.
Gove's attitude towards the whole cladding / leasehold debacle warmed me to him substantially. One of the few front line politicians of the Johnson era I actually respect.
Yes, he's a politician interested in policy. Always interesting.
At that point even I would say he would have to go but we are not there yet
At this point I would not be surprised if the 1922 somehow fail or equivocate on changing the rules in the first place, thus meaning no second VONC in the first place.
I really didn’t think he would go full on Trump but he has. This is damaging stuff.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
Sorry, but it's been obvious since autumn 2019 at the very latest. Anyone who didn't realise it by that point was not paying attention at all.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
Boris cited his mandate tonight as the reason to stay. That means you.
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
Boris cited his mandate tonight as the reason to stay. That means you.
He may cite it, its still nonsense. Should we give credence to his skewed opinions?
I genuinely feel really sorry for decent, hard-working, party members and followers who must be gutted by what is going on.
Fuck him, he voted for this prick
He didn't. If I recall correctly, he lost his nerve, contemplated resigning, then after the leadership votes were over he seemed to tacitly support BJ indirectly by defending BJ's policies when people criticised them.
Recently he has claimed that he want Boris gone
General election, 2019. Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
Labour gave us the choice of Boris or Corbyn after Corbyn had already been rejected once. Should Labour apologise for sending Corbyn out to bat again?
The attempts to blame Labour for this are plain weird. If you didn’t like Boris and Corbyn there were other choices such as spoiling the ballot.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
Nah. We didn't dare vote Monster Raving Loony or, more obscurely, LibDem and thereby let Corbyn into No. 10.
Tonight that attitude has proven to be foolish.
Not at all. I couldn't countenance Corbyn being PM of the UK. As @biggles said, knowing all that has happened (and not knowing how everyone else might vote, @Farooq ) I would vote the same way again.
Boris cited his mandate tonight as the reason to stay. That means you.
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Is Gove marching out of Downing Street yet?
I got a text from a good friend who once described himself as a typical dictatorial liberal, ie in his eyes he is a bit to the left but insistent that everyone else must think the same. His message about Boris was 'brass balls' and he has a point even if the brass is actually firmly on Johnson's neck.
Whilst the Hitler bunker comparisons are blindingly obvious I found one closer to home, that just seems to fit the mentality. I grew up with a bloke who killed a well known name in the local community. He promptly holed up in a house in the area and pretty much said' come ahead and try to kill me then'. Did not give two fucks.
There, minus the handgun and killing, is Boris right now. I have come to the conclusion that he is of that 'fuck you all mentality'. I am not sure its about the narcissist in him anymore.
The bloke, by the way, is still very much alive.
This mess cannot continue like this. If not, let's have the GE and we can tell Boris what his new mandate is: off you fuck.
The only mandate he has in his constituency vote at the general election, and the until now support of Tory MPs - each of whom has their own electoral mandate.
He has lost the latter, utterly, and if he manages to call an election will lose the former as well.
‘Buoyant mood’ has a pathological sound to it,
Now he will, if only as the PM who went full on Tonto rather then resigning with a bit of dignity.
Be careful what you wish for.
From the beeb: "Rather, the source goes on to say, it's about giving Johnson either a "fresh chancellor and new programme, that Rishi was not prepared to do" or "spend months ripping each other apart to elect a leader without a mandate - coalition of chaos and Labour who will break up Britain". "
i mean, that’s the kind of thing a guy notices, early on in a friendship
Yet apparently the Boris camp only spotted it today?
Every single one of you who voted Conservative is complicit in this and should apologise.
You know the really dull surveys yougov do? Would you feel proud to work for company x, etc? That's because organisations can't see themselves as others see them.
As if they give a blind fiddler's final farewell fuck.
Total bollocks, but some will try it...
However, my objection to Johnson started with Paterson went through wallpapergate and partygate and for weeks now I have been calling for his resignation and stated on many occasions my support for Aaron Bell and the 148
I have no problem with brexit and Johnson did well on covid and Ukraine
He utterly disgusts me tonight and the only consolation is he will be gone next week when the 1922 deal with him, if not before
Just a second hand demotion.
If you voted Conservative you own part of this.
https://t.co/WQwoAjKIjj
He may not be a natural caffeine head, but lots of people who aren't still take a lot of it out of greed, self indulgence, opportunism etc if they happen to be in a milieu where it is widely on offer, for free. looks increasingly like a latte boi to me
Voting either Conservative or Labour in 2019 was an idiotic lapse of judgement for anyone who was in possession of their faculties. You spent so long obsessing over Tweedledum you forgot you were voting for Tweedledee.
#GoingToDisappointMyMotherOnceMore
My conscience is clear.
A lot of damage can be done between now and then.
@afneil
I have always resisted comparisons between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump. Not tonight.
There are certain people who reach positions of power in democracies, who demonstrate through their behaviour that given the chance they would take the country into dictatorship. He’s the first British PM I’ve seen this trait in. Trump had it. Clearly Orban, Erdogan and other managed democrats do. Indira Gandhi. De Gaulle got close. But most others ultimately go when asked.
So we could have one tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/Innealadair/status/1174738207503781888?s=20&t=C8K-UFY9H9Wp9uNiRmovVA
[1] The candidate therefore got 2 votes! Best non-Labour result in Bootle since the Stone Age.
British Trump is now attempting a coup and he must be stopped.
You all should not have voted for him. Corbyn and Brexit are not a good enough excuse.
He needs to be sectioned never mind VONC.
British Kazoo Band 1960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ariSnPOp4Rg
https://twitter.com/Jerone4Congress/status/1544700948164972546