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  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662
    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    OnboardG1 said:

    Heathener said:

    If he does refuse to go, which I think is quite possible, then he could be about to inflict on the Conservative Party every bit as much damage as Black Wednesday.

    Blonde Wednesday.
    On a point of PB pedantry: Blond Wednesday surely?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    TOPPING said:

    If anyone wants some light relief (and I'm sure no one does because there's plenty going on right now) I find the live feed from Tattersalls to be very entertaining.

    http://db.tattersalls.com:8080/4DCGI/Sale/Live?site=NMT

    That's oddly fascinating.
    Those guys are great - could listen to them all day, have been a couple of times.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Fabricant is like a value range version of Johnson.
    Correction - Fabricant is like a QUALITY range version of Johnson.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Bryant is after @ydoethur ’s vote.

    https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1544723112863866880
    That was liaisons dangereux
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    Leon said:

    I’m bored now. There hasn’t been an unprecedented constitutional outrage for over 20 minutes

    Indeed. Exactly how long does it take a delegation of ministers to say “off you fuck”. Should have taken Peter Capaldi with them.
  • Zahawi has only been Chancellor for 24 hours and now Sterling has been sold off: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61942360
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    Nigelb said:

    Bryant is after @ydoethur ’s vote.

    https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1544723112863866880
    That was liaisons dangereux

    Zahawi meanwhile is imposingly trashing himself in ways that he wouldn't have managed even at education.

    24 hours after being appointed Chancellor, knifing his boss? That's decidedly rapid. Nobody will trust him now!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,154

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Weirdly, JRM had a completely different view when Theresa May was Prime Minister.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    So his understanding of our constitution turns out to be fake.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Bryant is after @ydoethur ’s vote.

    https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1544723112863866880
    That was liaisons dangereux

    Zahawi meanwhile is imposingly trashing himself in ways that he wouldn't have managed even at education.

    24 hours after being appointed Chancellor, knifing his boss? That's decidedly rapid. Nobody will trust him now!
    It’s hard to explain.
    Perhaps he found Jennifer Arcuri’s corpse stashed in connecting alcove at No. 11.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,433

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Not really true.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,632
    Kit Malthouse, police minister and a close ally to the PM, is also in the delegation

  • Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747
    rcs1000 said:

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Weirdly, JRM had a completely different view when Theresa May was Prime Minister.
    It’s bizarre these people so prepared to trash their reputation for all time with their nonsense. He positions himself as the great defender of the British parliamentary tradition. And comes out with this tosh.

  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    I’m bored now. There hasn’t been an unprecedented constitutional outrage for over 20 minutes

    Indeed. Exactly how long does it take a delegation of ministers to say “off you fuck”. Should have taken Peter Capaldi with them.
    "Fuckety-bye"
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    Precisely, our unwritten constitution is our greatest strength and also why we're better than America too.

    In America it is much harder to humiliate and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
    Counting chickens before eggs hatch unwise when dealing with likes of Boris Johnson.

    BTW, what great British lawyer could best (or rather worst) perform the Rudy G role for BoJo?
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,593

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Bryant is after @ydoethur ’s vote.

    https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1544723112863866880
    That was liaisons dangereux

    Zahawi meanwhile is imposingly trashing himself in ways that he wouldn't have managed even at education.

    24 hours after being appointed Chancellor, knifing his boss? That's decidedly rapid. Nobody will trust him now!
    It’s hard to explain.
    Perhaps he found Jennifer Arcuri’s corpse stashed in connecting alcove at No. 11.
    The extent to which he is hanging on like grim death suggests that he fears the consequences of losing the levers of power.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Zahawi just going for all the angles on this one, perhaps.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,459

    moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    Precisely, our unwritten constitution is our greatest strength and also why we're better than America too.

    In America it is much harder to humiliate and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
    Counting chickens before eggs hatch unwise when dealing with likes of Boris Johnson.

    BTW, what great British lawyer could best (or rather worst) perform the Rudy G role for BoJo?
    Keir Starmer? :D
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,668
    edited July 2022

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    I thought he was the constitutional expert? Only 25,351 people voted for Boris.


    Looks like we need someone to leak his evening Zoom call with the Queen.

    "You have no authority here, Boris Johnson"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    mwadams said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    Bryant is after @ydoethur ’s vote.

    https://twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1544723112863866880
    That was liaisons dangereux

    Zahawi meanwhile is imposingly trashing himself in ways that he wouldn't have managed even at education.

    24 hours after being appointed Chancellor, knifing his boss? That's decidedly rapid. Nobody will trust him now!
    It’s hard to explain.
    Perhaps he found Jennifer Arcuri’s corpse stashed in connecting alcove at No. 11.
    The extent to which he is hanging on like grim death suggests that he fears the consequences of losing the levers of power.
    Zahawi or Johnson?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Oh my God. This is a perfect farce. Is the PPS having to keep them from meeting each other by manoeuvring them through different rooms?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,632
    Sam Allardyce is keen to take over as Prime Minister on an interim basis, Paddy Power News understands.

    With current incumbent Boris Johnson fighting to stay in office amid a series of resignations from his cabinet, Big Sam believes he’s the right man to steady the ship until the next election.

    The 67-year-old feels he’s the ideal candidate to rescue the government from their current predicament having saved clubs such as Bolton, Blackburn, Sunderland and Crystal Palace from Premier League relegation.

    If appointed as interim-PM, Allardyce will make long-time assistant Sammy Lee his deputy with ex-Bolton midfielder Kevin Nolan becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    Despite repeated attempts, Ivan Campo has rebuffed Sam’s offer to succeed Liz Truss as interim-Foreign Minister.

    However, it’s understood Big Sam faces stiff competition for the PM’s job from Jeremy Hunt, Larry the Downing Street cat and a 1kg tub of Lurpak.

    ‘First thing I’d do if I got the job is have a ‘pints of wine and cheese party’ in Number 10 to celebrate’, Allardyce told Paddy Power News.

    ‘A full English the next morning, then straight down to parliament to sort out this cost of living malarkey’.

    ‘Have you seen the prices lately? Four quid for Bisto Gravy Granules? Nine-bleeding-quid for a tub of butter?

    ‘I BROUGHT YOURI DJORKAEFF TO BOLTON FOR LESS THAN THAT AND HE’D WON A WORLD CUP’.


    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2022/07/06/reports-downing-street-to-give-it-to-big-sam-til-the-end-of-season/
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    Leon said:

    I’m bored now. There hasn’t been an unprecedented constitutional outrage for over 20 minutes

    Spoilt - that's your trouble.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Weirdly, JRM had a completely different view when Theresa May was Prime Minister.
    It’s bizarre these people so prepared to trash their reputation for all time with their nonsense. He positions himself as the great defender of the British parliamentary tradition. And comes out with this tosh.

    Bit out of sorts, his sedan-chair carriers managed to toss him onto some sharpish cobblestones this morning.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    Precisely, our unwritten constitution is our greatest strength and also why we're better than America too.

    In America it is much harder to humiliate and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
    Counting chickens before eggs hatch unwise when dealing with likes of Boris Johnson.

    BTW, what great British lawyer could best (or rather worst) perform the Rudy G role for BoJo?
    Geoffrey Cox, surely?

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388

    Sam Allardyce is keen to take over as Prime Minister on an interim basis, Paddy Power News understands.

    With current incumbent Boris Johnson fighting to stay in office amid a series of resignations from his cabinet, Big Sam believes he’s the right man to steady the ship until the next election.

    The 67-year-old feels he’s the ideal candidate to rescue the government from their current predicament having saved clubs such as Bolton, Blackburn, Sunderland and Crystal Palace from Premier League relegation.

    If appointed as interim-PM, Allardyce will make long-time assistant Sammy Lee his deputy with ex-Bolton midfielder Kevin Nolan becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    Despite repeated attempts, Ivan Campo has rebuffed Sam’s offer to succeed Liz Truss as interim-Foreign Minister.

    However, it’s understood Big Sam faces stiff competition for the PM’s job from Jeremy Hunt, Larry the Downing Street cat and a 1kg tub of Lurpak.

    ‘First thing I’d do if I got the job is have a ‘pints of wine and cheese party’ in Number 10 to celebrate’, Allardyce told Paddy Power News.

    ‘A full English the next morning, then straight down to parliament to sort out this cost of living malarkey’.

    ‘Have you seen the prices lately? Four quid for Bisto Gravy Granules? Nine-bleeding-quid for a tub of butter?

    ‘I BROUGHT YOURI DJORKAEFF TO BOLTON FOR LESS THAN THAT AND HE’D WON A WORLD CUP’.


    https://news.paddypower.com/football/2022/07/06/reports-downing-street-to-give-it-to-big-sam-til-the-end-of-season/

    https://youtu.be/oeG9r6HxJgE
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,898

    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: press conference called for 18:00 at Number 10 Total Landscaping, Catford.

    https://twitter.com/IanMartin/status/1544718414895370242

    I'd like to see him trying to show his face in Catford!
    Don't Boris and Carrie own a house down that way?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Leon said:

    I’m bored now. There hasn’t been an unprecedented constitutional outrage for over 20 minutes

    Any word from Durham police?
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Is it possible that Boris summoned a group of loyalists, like Nads and ??PP, to No 10 before he arrived. So as to have a showdown?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Weirdly, JRM had a completely different view when Theresa May was Prime Minister.
    It’s bizarre these people so prepared to trash their reputation for all time with their nonsense. He positions himself as the great defender of the British parliamentary tradition. And comes out with this tosh.

    It’s because he is an arsehole playing the character of a clever Victorian bog brush but in real life he’s a not very bright arsehole. Hope that clears it up.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    Shame that @kinabalu isn't here to pontificate today. He's gone on holiday by mistake, apparently.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    But which is better? There's only one way to find out...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    biggles said:

    moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    Precisely, our unwritten constitution is our greatest strength and also why we're better than America too.

    In America it is much harder to humiliate and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
    Counting chickens before eggs hatch unwise when dealing with likes of Boris Johnson.

    BTW, what great British lawyer could best (or rather worst) perform the Rudy G role for BoJo?
    Geoffrey Cox, surely?

    Isn't he an actually decent lawyer though?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    Straight out of The Thick of It.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,041

    Kit Malthouse, police minister and a close ally to the PM, is also in the delegation

    How big is this bloody delegation?
    It’s like Murder on the Orient Express, everybody wants their fingerprints on the dagger.
    Not Dorries
  • eekeek Posts: 28,370
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    If their concern is an election resulting in a Labour SNP coalition then calling one now with Bozo leading the Tory party is the safest way of ensuring that result won't occur.

    An election with Bozo as Tory Party leader would result in Labour and the Lib Dems having a working majority between them and probably enough seats for Labour to Govern by themselves.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    I think the pro-Boris group's colours are blue; the anti-Boris group wear purple.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,591
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    If anyone wants some light relief (and I'm sure no one does because there's plenty going on right now) I find the live feed from Tattersalls to be very entertaining.

    http://db.tattersalls.com:8080/4DCGI/Sale/Live?site=NMT

    That's oddly fascinating.
    Those guys are great - could listen to them all day, have been a couple of times.
    I used to love going to auctions as a kid. My dad would take me to Telford auctions some Saturday mornings. Of course, it was cars, plant, machinery and tools rather than horses, but it was still fascinating.

    I was always terrified of sneezing and making a bid...
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    He truly is 'Braitain' Trump'
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/24/is-boris-johnson-really-britains-trump
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    Kit Malthouse, police minister and a close ally to the PM, is also in the delegation

    How big is this bloody delegation?
    It’s like Murder on the Orient Express, everybody wants their fingerprints on the dagger.
    Not Dorries
    No one wants their fingerprints on Dorries.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    If BoZo doesn't go (?) this may be what ends him...

    Boris Johnson has finally admitted to meeting his billionaire, former KGB friend - without officials - just days after attending a high-level NATO summit.

    This Prime Minister is a threat to national security and is unfit for his office.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-kgb-diana-johnson-prime-minister-evening-standard-b2117199.html
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    I thought he was the constitutional expert? Only 25,351 people voted for Boris.


    Looks like we need someone to leak his evening Zoom call with the Queen.

    "You have no authority here, Boris Johnson"
    LOL "You have no authority here, insert rebel Cabinet name here" surely
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,191
    Boris seems to be getting our system mixed up with a presidential one
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,041
    Graham Brady just walked into the cabinet office
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Kit Malthouse, police minister and a close ally to the PM, is also in the delegation

    What is Sage of Mar-a-Lardo is advising? Perhaps via Mad Nad the British MTG?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486
    biggles said:


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Oh my God. This is a perfect farce. Is the PPS having to keep them from meeting each other by manoeuvring them through different rooms?

    It’s amusingly like the Blackader II (or blackader 11 to Nads) where his puritan aunt arrives on same evening as a piss up and they have to keep the two groups apart.

    And as the saying in Downing Street goes “Great boo’s up”.
  • StockyStocky Posts: 10,215
    edited July 2022

    Kit Malthouse, police minister and a close ally to the PM, is also in the delegation

    How big is this bloody delegation?
    It’s like Murder on the Orient Express, everybody wants their fingerprints on the dagger.
    I hope Rob Butler (Aylesbury) is in the delegation. Then we can say that the butler did it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    edited July 2022

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    I thought he was the constitutional expert? Only 25,351 people voted for Boris.


    Looks like we need someone to leak his evening Zoom call with the Queen.

    "You have no authority here, Boris Johnson"
    He is either a titanic fool, or an incredibly brazen liar.

    He knows damn well the number of people voting for the PM's party has nothing whatsoever to do with the formal process.

    Why does he come up with this crap? It makes him a laughing stock to anyone who can wikipedia the constitution, and anyone who doesn't care about the rules won't care if he was right or not.

    Tory MPs absolutely have a right to decide who their own leader is. That it will affect the Premiership is technically secondary.

    I'll say this for Boris - I think he is genuinely a bright man, unlike JRM.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    Graham Brady just walked into the cabinet office

    Old Lady and Gove. A beautiful end
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Royal rumble!
    Enter JRM brandishing a chair.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    The conversations taking place in Number 10 today are going to be the subject of so many TV films and dramas over the next few decades.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    te and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
    Counting chickens before eggs hatch unwise when dealing with likes of Boris Johnson.

    BTW, what great British lawyer could best (or rather worst) perform the Rudy G role for BoJo?
    Geoffrey Cox, surely?

    Isn't he an actually decent lawyer though?
    Only in one sense of the word….

  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Heathener said:

    Is it possible that Boris summoned a group of loyalists, like Nads and ??PP, to No 10 before he arrived. So as to have a showdown?

    Oh Kate McCann beat me to it. ;)

    So before he showed up he summoned whatever loyalists were left. Nads obvs. PP? Who knows.

    This is all so unedifying. Disastrous for the Conservative Party that he doesn't understand decency.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    IshmaelZ said:

    BREAKING:

    Told that Graham Brady is in the Cabinet Office *now*

    He's expected to see the prime minister shortly

    But he may have to join the queue given the sheer number of Cabinet ministers who also want to see Boris Johnson

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    It's like that Airplane scene where they queue up to slap the hysterical woman

    Who's carrying the pistol?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957

    The conversations taking place in Number 10 today are going to be the subject of so many TV films and dramas over the next few decades.

    Paging Peter Morgan.
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,293
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    Why on earth would the SNP want to be in government?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Downing Street source says PM’s staff are telling waiting ministers - both loyalists and those who want him to quit - that he’s still not back from House of Commons.

    “They are still saying that he hasn't returned. He got back half an hour ago.”

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544730039803068421
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    kle4 said:

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    I thought he was the constitutional expert? Only 25,351 people voted for Boris.


    Looks like we need someone to leak his evening Zoom call with the Queen.

    "You have no authority here, Boris Johnson"
    He is either a titanic fool, or an incredibly brazen liar.
    I think you are overlooking the realistic possibility that he is, in fact, both.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    The good news for Boris is that the resignations seem to have been stuck on 36 for (in relative terms) a while now :smiley:
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Raab has arrived in the rear of the building.
    Hes waiting to be told who's side he is on
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    Why would forcing the PM out lead to a snap election? It would only do that if the 'loyalists' (who may actually be rebels in a few minutes) themselves decided to bring down the government alongside Labour and the SNP.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    I think the pro-Boris group's colours are blue; the anti-Boris group wear purple.
    Who gets to wear the horned shamen hat?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662
    Rather than a pistol and a bottle of whiskey we need a DSR-Precision DSR 50 Sniper Rifle and a bottle of BJs favourite Champagne for him to share with Dorres when hes mowed the rebels down
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402
    Graham Brady heading for the OK Corral too. It's gonna be crowded.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    I thought he was the constitutional expert? Only 25,351 people voted for Boris.


    Looks like we need someone to leak his evening Zoom call with the Queen.

    "You have no authority here, Boris Johnson"
    He is either a titanic fool, or an incredibly brazen liar.
    I think you are overlooking the realistic possibility that he is, in fact, both.
    I'm an optimist when it comes to human nature.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,591
    "Dad, what are you watching?"
    "Horse sales."
    "Isn't that horse slavery?"
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Heathener said:

    Heathener said:

    Is it possible that Boris summoned a group of loyalists, like Nads and ??PP, to No 10 before he arrived. So as to have a showdown?

    Oh Kate McCann beat me to it. ;)

    So before he showed up he summoned whatever loyalists were left. Nads obvs. PP? Who knows.

    This is all so unedifying. Disastrous for the Conservative Party that he doesn't understand decency.
    Leave 'im, Nadine, 'e's not wurf it
  • Whatever happens, I just hope they let him keep the hi-vis.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    boulay said:

    biggles said:


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Oh my God. This is a perfect farce. Is the PPS having to keep them from meeting each other by manoeuvring them through different rooms?

    It’s amusingly like the Blackader II (or blackader 11 to Nads) where his puritan aunt arrives on same evening as a piss up and they have to keep the two groups apart.

    And as the saying in Downing Street goes “Great boo’s up”.
    This is going to make a brilliant film one day.

  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    Scott_xP said:

    Downing Street source says PM’s staff are telling waiting ministers - both loyalists and those who want him to quit - that he’s still not back from House of Commons.

    “They are still saying that he hasn't returned. He got back half an hour ago.”

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544730039803068421

    Hiding in the wardrobe.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813

    TOPPING said:

    Scott_xP said:

    No 10 divided:

    Two groups of Cabinet ministers are gathered in No 10

    Loyalists who argue that forcing PM out would lead to snap election & Labour SNP coalition

    Newly minted rebels who want him gone

    They are gathered *in different parts of the building*

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544728307895341056

    I think the pro-Boris group's colours are blue; the anti-Boris group wear purple.
    Who gets to wear the horned shamen hat?
    Nadine, surely.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    dixiedean said:

    Royal rumble!
    Enter JRM brandishing a chair.

    While it is possible to imagine events unfolding like West Side Story, I am picturing it more like a scene from the Marriage of Figaro...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    If even Grant Shapps thinks Johnson's unfit to be PM, the game is really up.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565

    Rather than a pistol and a bottle of whiskey we need a DSR-Precision DSR 50 Sniper Rifle and a bottle of BJs favourite Champagne for him to share with Dorres when hes mowed the rebels down

    "Say hello to my little friend....."

    "Not you, Nads."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    "14M people elected Boris, MPs dont have the authority to remove him" - JRM

    Popcorn time

    Not really true.
    Unnecessary second word there.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    This is a great One Stop Shop for picking up what is being said, by the way.

    I know some tweets get irritating but at times like this it's invaluable to have selective ones posted up.

    Thank you to you all.

    x
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    The good news for Boris is that the resignations seem to have been stuck on 36 for (in relative terms) a while now :smiley:

    I spoke too soon, it's 37 now, according to Sky News.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058

    Rather than a pistol and a bottle of whiskey we need a DSR-Precision DSR 50 Sniper Rifle and a bottle of BJs favourite Champagne for him to share with Dorres when hes mowed the rebels down

    Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 Watt Range (a la Terminator)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Downing Street source says PM’s staff are telling waiting ministers - both loyalists and those who want him to quit - that he’s still not back from House of Commons.

    “They are still saying that he hasn't returned. He got back half an hour ago.”

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544730039803068421

    Hiding in the wardrobe.
    Wine fridge surely. Unless that is an allusion to C. S. Lewis?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565

    The good news for Boris is that the resignations seem to have been stuck on 36 for (in relative terms) a while now :smiley:

    Waiting to make a splash on Channel 4 news.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,388
    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Downing Street source says PM’s staff are telling waiting ministers - both loyalists and those who want him to quit - that he’s still not back from House of Commons.

    “They are still saying that he hasn't returned. He got back half an hour ago.”

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544730039803068421

    Hiding in the wardrobe.
    Why? Has the fridge broken?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Pulpstar said:

    Boris seems to be getting our system mixed up with a presidential one

    It's where you find out who is loyal, and who is a minion - the latter think it traitorous to go against a leader, no matter what, even though our system allows for political decapitations like this.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839
    One reads that the current 1922 exec has decided not to change the rules, so Lame Dog will be limping on into next week. Exactly who will be sat around the cabinet table with him by this point, who knows? Any ministers who've told him to go are going to look patently ridiculous if they hang about beyond this evening.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Right, I think I've constructed the scenario where by 11am tomorrow Ian Blackford is Prime Minister.

    It does rely on Boris Johnson and the Conservative party being a pile of clown shoes buffoons so highly unlikely I know...
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662
    Has HYUFD left to storm Parliament in support of Boris yet??
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 888
    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Downing Street source says PM’s staff are telling waiting ministers - both loyalists and those who want him to quit - that he’s still not back from House of Commons.

    “They are still saying that he hasn't returned. He got back half an hour ago.”

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1544730039803068421

    Hiding in the wardrobe.
    What if he decides not to come back tonight and kip at the HoC?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Downing Street source: “It’s 110% over. We’re demoralised, distraught and distressed.”
    https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/1544731059715276801

    NOW they know how we feel...
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 174
    Which ministers haven't said anything yet?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,220
    Scott_xP said:

    dixiedean said:

    Royal rumble!
    Enter JRM brandishing a chair.

    While it is possible to imagine events unfolding like West Side Story, I am picturing it more like a scene from the Marriage of Figaro...
    Final scene from Bugsy Malone.

    "We could have been anything that we wanted to be..."
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,632
    Nearly 2,700 comments today so far.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,749
    boulay said:

    biggles said:


    Kate McCann
    @KateEMcCann
    🚨I understand there are TWO different groups of MPs currently in Downing Street - the ones who want the PM gone and the ones preparing a fightback (with or without PM…) Nadine Dorries is in the latter, suggestion that Zahawi could be too…

    https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1544726906418913286

    Oh my God. This is a perfect farce. Is the PPS having to keep them from meeting each other by manoeuvring them through different rooms?

    It’s amusingly like the Blackader II (or blackader 11 to Nads) where his puritan aunt arrives on same evening as a piss up and they have to keep the two groups apart.
    Or perhaps like "The Happiest Days of Your Life" with Alastair Sim?

    "We're waiting for an explanation!"
    "Can't you see I'm trying to think of one?"
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