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  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    DM_Andy said:

    If Boris is still leader of the Conservative Party and the Conservative Party hold the majority of seats in the House of Commons then by definition Boris commands the majority of the House. He's not having difficulty getting legislation through the Commons so his government is still functioning. Can the Queen really get involved in the morass of Conservative Party internal politics by doing the PCP's dirty work for them?

    He may be leader, but it is not entirely clear he should remain PM. That is in the Queen’s gift.
    And she has reasonable doubt that he is able to command support from the House.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,901

    Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.

    You forgotten Jennifer Whatshername
    Ms Arcuri will shortly be Secretary of State for Friends with Benefits.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Just asked ally of cabinet minister who is in No 10 calling on PM to go what would happen if he refuses. “Then Boris Johnson won’t have a cabinet,” came the swift reply
    https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1544721477320249344
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565

    dixiedean said:

    I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant.
    We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.

    If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
    Top Tips for governing.....
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    Carnyx said:

    dixiedean said:

    I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant.
    We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.

    If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
    Complete with Brady on the next page.
    And Bertie Blunt's Parrot as Prime Minister.
  • The conservative hereditary peers by-election results were announce earlier today.

    https://www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/lords-information-office/2022/hereditary-peers-by-election-result-brabazon-swinfen.pdf

    A very close run election for the second vacancy. Proper STV in action!!!

    The successful candidates were Lord Remnant and Lord Wrottesley.
    Lord Remnant's statement:

    Live in London and Hampshire, and am a lifelong Conservative. Worked within Government as Chairman of Shareholder Executive, director of UKFI (responsible for Government’s shareholdings in the banks) and director of Northern Rock.
    Currently, a non-executive director of Prudential and Severn Trent, and was recently Deputy Chair of The Takeover Panel. With reducing business interests, would commit enthusiastically to the Lords.
    Other interests: countryside matters.

    Lord Wrottesley's statement:
    I took my seat 25 years ago, but relative youth meant not offering myself for election.
    An Olympian, Chaired British Bobsleigh and Skeleton, now Chairing Ice Hockey UK, sit on the Finance committee of the International Ice Hockey Federation, and the board of GB's best ever performing Winter Sport, British Skeleton.
    A stint in Finance in the noughties, closet tree hugger, as reflected in my business interests. More broadly interested in the environment, defence, housing.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402

    OK, so correct me if I am wrong, but the Sovereign asks the PM whether he/she or anyone else can form a majority. The Tory Party would *simply* need to coalesce around a unity candidate who could. None of them will want a GE.

    But the PM would lie of course.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,526

    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson.
    Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm.
    All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed.

    https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723


    BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...

    Well well, that is a development.
    The Men in Grey Suits think they can get his resignation.....
    Meh - lets assume a stack of them say "we quit if you don't" and then do so. He will send out Rees-Mogg and Dorries and Clarke to say how wonderful he is. And appoint David Duguid and Matt Vickers to Cabinet.
    Excuse me. Matt Vickers is my best friend (not that one, another one of the same name). Funnily enough he posted as a joke on Facebook earlier today that he had also quit. I said I was awaiting the call from No 10 to replace him.
  • MISTYMISTY Posts: 1,594

    OK, so correct me if I am wrong, but the Sovereign asks the PM whether he/she or anyone else can form a majority. The Tory Party would *simply* need to coalesce around a unity candidate who could. None of them will want a GE.

    I suspect that coalescing around a unity candidate would be extremely difficult though. I also suspect Boris knows this.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Leon said:

    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing

    The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris

    That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get

    Which Caesar, though?
    He’s a mix isn’t he? A dash of Julius, a hint of Tiberius, distant echoes of Heliogabulus, not much Augustus
    Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus
    More like (the concubine part of) Gibbon's famous praise of Emperor Gordian:

    “Twenty-two acknowledged concubines and a library of sixty-two thousand volumes attested the variety of his inclinations; and from the productions which he left behind him, it appears that the former as well as the latter were designed for use rather than for ostentation.”
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    Leon said:

    The British Constitution consists of

    A letter to the Times from 1950
    A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
    Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
    Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
    A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
    A diary believed lost during World War 2
    A sturdy hymn

    Law 15.2 of the Laws of Cricket.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,361
    Leon said:

    The British Constitution consists of

    A letter to the Times from 1950
    A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
    Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
    Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
    A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
    A diary believed lost during World War 2
    A sturdy hymn

    The scorecard of a 1904 first-class match between MCC and Yorkshire.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    The British Constitution consists of

    A letter to the Times from 1950
    A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
    Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
    Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
    A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
    A diary believed lost during World War 2
    A sturdy hymn

    And the laws of cricket.
    Beat me to it!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    IshmaelZ said:

    DavidL said:

    Starting to feel that Zahawi must have thought that Tywin Lannister was a bit of a softy really whose generosity and loyalty got taken advantage of.

    Yeah cool move

    BUT fatal to leadership ambitions I think. Too much of a snake, esp coming after Boris
    He's about to become the new Gove - whatever his competency, he cannot be trusted by parliamentary allies.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    HMQ needs to send one of the kids out to meet Boris if he tries it.
    'Shes not in' 'shes gone to Auntie Brendas'
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863

    Leon said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I think the economy has been really steady under him.
    Proper lols. He can retire on that

    “During my Chancellorship, the pound was more stable than under any other Chancellor since the war”
    FTSE up, £ up against €.

    He might be the best Chancellor ever, per day.
    And the shortest in office. And the only one with a beard since Roman times.
  • NorthofStokeNorthofStoke Posts: 1,758

    OK, so correct me if I am wrong, but the Sovereign asks the PM whether he/she or anyone else can form a majority. The Tory Party would *simply* need to coalesce around a unity candidate who could. None of them will want a GE.

    Also, do the opposition really want one now? Could be high risk and they may soon be leaderless too?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,431
    Scott_xP said:

    Just asked ally of cabinet minister who is in No 10 calling on PM to go what would happen if he refuses. “Then Boris Johnson won’t have a cabinet,” came the swift reply
    https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1544721477320249344

    Has Johnson actually gone back to number 10?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Leon said:

    The British Constitution consists of

    A letter to the Times from 1950
    A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
    Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
    Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
    A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
    A diary believed lost during World War 2
    A sturdy hymn

    As it should be! Evolution, not some dusty document drafted up by a bunch of old white bores.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,267
    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    The British Constitution consists of

    A letter to the Times from 1950
    A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
    Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
    Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
    A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
    A diary believed lost during World War 2
    A sturdy hymn

    And the laws of cricket.
    The missing piece is written in invisible ink on the back of one of the receipts for Pitt The Younger’s port purchases.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Nadine has turned up at No10

    this could get lively

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544722318055931906
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    HMQ needs to send one of the kids out to meet Boris if he tries it.
    'Shes not in' 'shes gone to Auntie Brendas'

    When Andrew greets you at the door you know you are in the doghouse.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,154

    Shapps packing a revolver


    Presumably there is already a bottle of whisky on the premises?
    And a packet of Silk Cut.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,662
    Mad Nad enters No 10

    Caretaker PM!!
  • Mad Nads is in Downing Street.

    Just imagine if she is there for the delegation. Imagine being brought back to reality by Mad Nads.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    Has Johnson actually gone back to number 10?

    Nope

    Hiding in a Parliamentary fridge
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838

    Carnyx said:

    dixiedean said:

    I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant.
    We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.

    If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
    Complete with Brady on the next page.
    And Bertie Blunt's Parrot as Prime Minister.
    *looks up*. Definitely tactful of you not to give the title in full, especially today.
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 888
    Dorries going into No 10, SURELY she isn't in the Cab Min delegation?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I think the economy has been really steady under him.
    Proper lols. He can retire on that

    “During my Chancellorship, the pound was more stable than under any other Chancellor since the war”
    FTSE up, £ up against €.

    He might be the best Chancellor ever, per day.
    And the shortest in office. And the only one with a beard since Roman times.
    Is there a photo wall in Number 11? It’ would be hilarious if he snook on based on one day. Like Collingwood’s MBE for the Ashes.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Newly released: a letter from Boris Johnson rejecting Nicola Sturgeon's request for a transfer of power to hold an independence referendum. Apparently amid everything else today, he's had time to "carefully consider" her arguments, and he "cannot agree that now is the time"... https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/1544722471047274498/photo/1
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,127
    Nadine Dorries walking into Number 10? To soothe Boris's brow after the rest of the Cabinet has told him to go?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,526
    Scott_xP said:

    Nadine has turned up at No10

    this could get lively

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544722318055931906

    Fight! Fight! Fight!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,901

    Dorries going into No 10, SURELY she isn't in the Cab Min delegation?

    She is there to offer the pity fuck once they have forced him out.

    Question. Is Mrs Johnson in Downing Street...?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,565
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited July 2022
    It doesn’t matter whether the Tory Party are unified over a proper successor.

    They (and in reality, a representative body of senior figures, ie the men in grey suits) only need to be unified over someone who can do the job in a caretaking capacity.

    In other words, step forward PM Sir Graham Brady or Dame Theresa May.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    If ever there was a case for a written constitution then Boris Johnson has made it through his complete disregard for convention

    If ever there's a case for an unwritten constitution then Boris Johnson being removed within 24 hours, despite the written rules saying he was safe, shows precisely why it is worth keeping. 👍
    I sort of agree, except the rule saying he was safe was an internal Tory party rule,not a part of the constitution. Until certain Tory members make them one and the same.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    Scott_xP said:

    Just asked ally of cabinet minister who is in No 10 calling on PM to go what would happen if he refuses. “Then Boris Johnson won’t have a cabinet,” came the swift reply
    https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1544721477320249344

    Has Johnson actually gone back to number 10?
    Recently saw someone who looked just like him driving to Dundee in his bare feet.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    edited July 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: press conference called for 18:00 at Number 10 Total Landscaping, Catford.

    https://twitter.com/IanMartin/status/1544718414895370242

    LOL! That's a clever reference to that that dolt Rudy Giuliani mistakenly calling a Potus crisis press conference at the Four Seasons garden centre, thinking it was the Four Seasons hotel.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,431

    Mad Nad enters No 10

    Caretaker PM!!

    Don't even joke about it!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402
    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    IIRC, Japanese PM Taro Aso called the 2009 Japan GE before the LDP could oust him as party leader, but that didn't end well for the LDP:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Japanese_general_election

    Clearly not, it led to the only extended period out of office for them in nigh on 70 years!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Rees Mogg has, i'm told, caught the time tunnel back to 1878.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    Tommy Lascelles is a direct descendent of shortest-serving PM George Canning.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,402
    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Who rules himself out as next PM.
    Before everyone else does of course.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298

    Rees Mogg has, i'm told, caught the time tunnel back to 1878.

    Where better place to fight extension of the franchise?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    Rees Mogg has, i'm told, caught the time tunnel back to 1878.

    No he hasn't - given his flaky understanding of constitutional conventions, which he often invents on the fly, I think he is from a steampunk alternative universe.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,863
    Greased piglet to pork scratchings in a single day

    Hopefully :)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,811

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747
    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Speaking of which, he’s been unnervingly quiet in recent hours
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,289
    Boris should declare himself Lord Protector. Worked for Cromwell when he was in a tight spot
  • MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Oh that's a relief, I was thinking we needed a search party for a welfare check.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,632
    Scott_xP said:

    Nadine has turned up at No10

    this could get lively

    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1544722318055931906

    This is going to turn into that massive fight in one of the Anchorman films.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838
    kle4 said:

    Rees Mogg has, i'm told, caught the time tunnel back to 1878.

    No he hasn't - given his flaky understanding of constitutional conventions, which he often invents on the fly, I think he is from a steampunk alternative universe.
    Well, zips are far too new-fangled for him.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485

    dixiedean said:

    I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant.
    We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.

    If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
    Top Tips for governing.....
    Student Grant Shapps doing Graham Brady Old Lady's bidding and trying to rid us of the Fat Slug.

    Penny Morders and Her Double Entendres waiting in the wings.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: press conference called for 18:00 at Number 10 Total Landscaping, Catford.

    https://twitter.com/IanMartin/status/1544718414895370242

    LOL! That's a clever reference to that that dolt Rudy Giuliani mistakenly calling a Potus crisis press conference at the Four Seasons garden centre, thinking it was the Four Seasons hotel.
    Hey, I'm the guy who (I'm assuming) gave Scott the idea! (A thread or so ago.)
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838

    The banter heuristic INSISTS on Theresa May stepping back into the role.

    Pleeeease ...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103
    Leon said:

    Boris should declare himself Lord Protector. Worked for Cromwell when he was in a tight spot

    Cromwell had a parliament willing to acclaim him as such (and more, in fact, had he and the army been on board). I don't think Boris has that.
  • NorthofStokeNorthofStoke Posts: 1,758
    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Is any further degradation passible?
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: press conference called for 18:00 at Number 10 Total Landscaping, Catford.

    https://twitter.com/IanMartin/status/1544718414895370242

    I'd like to see him trying to show his face in Catford!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,635

    The banter heuristic INSISTS on Theresa May stepping back into the role.

    She could go to the country with a bold plan to solve social care and warn against a coalition of chaos under Keir Starmer.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    moonshine said:

    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Speaking of which, he’s been unnervingly quiet in recent hours
    In a few hours he might be Chancellor.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,838

    moonshine said:

    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Speaking of which, he’s been unnervingly quiet in recent hours
    In a few hours he might be Chancellor.
    When Dilyn accepts and then resigns a few hours later?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    kle4 said:

    Leon said:

    Boris should declare himself Lord Protector. Worked for Cromwell when he was in a tight spot

    Cromwell had a parliament willing to acclaim him as such (and more, in fact, had he and the army been on board). I don't think Boris has that.
    If he’s out then I’m willing to do it. I’d be benevolent ruler, unless you wear shoes with no socks.

  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,380
    edited July 2022
    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Bloody hell you're right, I've just realised that my satire could genuinely have been HYUFD. Except he wouldn't have used the f****** word, of course, so I'm safe.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,632
    moonshine said:

    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Speaking of which, he’s been unnervingly quiet in recent hours
    Be gentle with HYUFD today, I remember how devastated I was when Dave announced his retirement.

    It felt like a gut punch and a kick in the balls.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Boris Johson's new theme song

    Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    The banter heuristic INSISTS on Theresa May stepping back into the role.

    NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,747
    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    Senior Tory MPs not happy with PM threat to call an early election a saying it would embarrass the Queen

    “It would be deemed to be inappropriate [constitutionally] to put the sovereign in a position where she has to make a controversial decision”, says one


    https://twitter.com/Smyth_Chris/status/1544723611214290944

    These same Tory MPs cheered when he embarrassed the Queen with the 2019 prorogation.

    I am so hoping that Boris provides the theatre of refusing to go. It would be a fitting ending to the level of drama he has caused over the past 2½ years.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,652
    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Fabricant is like a value range version of Johnson.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    May as caretaker.
    First thing she does is go walking for the weekend.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784

    Boris Johson's new theme song

    Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow
    Toxic might be more appropriate!
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052

    moonshine said:

    MaxPB said:

    Boris should act swiftly and sack Zahawi for disloyalty.
    He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.

    I fear HYFUD has hacked your account Al!
    Speaking of which, he’s been unnervingly quiet in recent hours
    Be gentle with HYUFD today, I remember how devastated I was when Dave announced his retirement.

    It felt like a gut punch and a kick in the balls.
    As a pedant I feel the need to point out that if you’ve just been punched in the gut you are likely to have doubled over and so it’s very hard to then kick you in the balls.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,310
    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Fabricant is like a value range version of Johnson.
    He is a result of a back to the future liaison/ love child between Boris Johnson and Mad Nad
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    Allegedly one of Johnson's heroes was Winston Churchill.

    I doubt Churchill would ever behave as poorly as Johnson currently is. And old Winston did have his moments...
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    If anyone wants some light relief (and I'm sure no one does because there's plenty going on right now) I find the live feed from Tattersalls to be very entertaining.

    http://db.tattersalls.com:8080/4DCGI/Sale/Live?site=NMT
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,828
    It's a real problem isn't it. Theresa May stayed on longer than she probably should have done, it was always said of Gordon Brown that he'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of Downing St. Jeremy Corbyn was no confidenced by most of his MPs but refused to go.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    If he does refuse to go, which I think is quite possible, then he could be about to inflict on the Conservative Party every bit as much damage as Black Wednesday.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Fabricant is like a value range version of Johnson.
    He is a result of a back to the future liaison/ love child between Boris Johnson and Mad Nad
    I just think a Fabricant is a synthetic human from Blade Runner.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813

    May as caretaker.
    First thing she does is go walking for the weekend.

    Interestingly she has been very quiet….
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    OllyT said:

    Leon said:

    Speaking as someone not averse to a bit of personal storification, I wonder if Boris has one eye on that memoir advance

    The more spectacularly chaotic and bizarre he makes his departure, the more publishers will clamour to buy his tell-all autobiography - and the more they will pay

    This week will make the perfect ending - to volume one

    Why would anyone part with good money to read it, it will just be one lie after another. You wouldn't be able to believe a word he says. If he does do one I hope booksellers have the good grace to put it in the fiction section.
    Whether fact or fiction, Boris is hopeless at long-form anyway. As far as I can tell his greater “works” are pretty much unreadable.
    Picked up the Churchill "book" from a $1 bargain bin. Was overcharged by at least two bucks.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589

    The conservative hereditary peers by-election results were announce earlier today.

    https://www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/lords-information-office/2022/hereditary-peers-by-election-result-brabazon-swinfen.pdf

    A very close run election for the second vacancy. Proper STV in action!!!

    The successful candidates were Lord Remnant and Lord Wrottesley.
    Lord Remnant's statement:

    Live in London and Hampshire, and am a lifelong Conservative. Worked within Government as Chairman of Shareholder Executive, director of UKFI (responsible for Government’s shareholdings in the banks) and director of Northern Rock.
    Currently, a non-executive director of Prudential and Severn Trent, and was recently Deputy Chair of The Takeover Panel. With reducing business interests, would commit enthusiastically to the Lords.
    Other interests: countryside matters.

    Lord Wrottesley's statement:
    I took my seat 25 years ago, but relative youth meant not offering myself for election.
    An Olympian, Chaired British Bobsleigh and Skeleton, now Chairing Ice Hockey UK, sit on the Finance committee of the International Ice Hockey Federation, and the board of GB's best ever performing Winter Sport, British Skeleton.
    A stint in Finance in the noughties, closet tree hugger, as reflected in my business interests. More broadly interested in the environment, defence, housing.

    No way, he’s really called “Lord Remnant”? That’s a hell of a case of nominative determinism.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,784

    Foxy said:

    dixiedean said:

    Reduced to Fabricant on R4.

    Fabricant is like a value range version of Johnson.
    He is a result of a back to the future liaison/ love child between Boris Johnson and Mad Nad
    I just think a Fabricant is a synthetic human from Blade Runner.
    Clearly part of Fabricant is synthetic...
  • moonshine said:

    All this is a great proof of concept of our democracy and unwritten constitution. The reason why we’re better than Russia is we can humiliate and defenestrate our leaders to casually.

    Precisely, our unwritten constitution is our greatest strength and also why we're better than America too.

    In America it is much harder to humiliate and defenestrate poor leaders so casually.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,592
    TOPPING said:

    If anyone wants some light relief (and I'm sure no one does because there's plenty going on right now) I find the live feed from Tattersalls to be very entertaining.

    http://db.tattersalls.com:8080/4DCGI/Sale/Live?site=NMT

    That's oddly fascinating.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,052
    Heathener said:

    If he does refuse to go, which I think is quite possible, then he could be about to inflict on the Conservative Party every bit as much damage as Black Wednesday.

    Not necessarily, if it’s the Tory Party that’s seen to extract him. “We we taken hostage for 2.5 years Guv”.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,289
    I’m bored now. There hasn’t been an unprecedented constitutional outrage for over 20 minutes
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,103

    May as caretaker.
    First thing she does is go walking for the weekend.

    Interestingly she has been very quiet….
    Could you make a statement when you are paralysed by hysterical laughter?
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Heathener said:

    If he does refuse to go, which I think is quite possible, then he could be about to inflict on the Conservative Party every bit as much damage as Black Wednesday.

    Blonde Wednesday.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    May as a Caretaker PM would be a sensible choice, won't happen of course.
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