1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Boris requesting and HMQ approving an early election would end up with the Tories worse than decimated and probably a 1997 style Labour landslide.
It ain't happening. But would almost be funny if it did.
Why won't it happen? Nick Palmer has made the point that Gordon Brown threatened an election to Labour MPs who were trying to remove him. Unfortunately we have a very elderly and frail monarch who even in her prime would always act on the advice of her prime minister. I wonder what her son is thinking about it all?
She has advisors. I think she would refuse. I also think there could be a big role for the Speaker as this pans out.
There's no reason for the Queen to agree, and who would be left to campaign on his behalf?
If they have any sense the Cabinet Secretary and her Private Secretary will have been discussing this very scenario today.
Their objective will be to avoid putting the Queen in a political position and they can do that by making it clear where the real politics lie and organising alternative political delegations accordingly.
Speaking as someone not averse to a bit of personal storification, I wonder if Boris has one eye on that memoir advance
The more spectacularly chaotic and bizarre he makes his departure, the more publishers will clamour to buy his tell-all autobiography - and the more they will pay
This week will make the perfect ending - to volume one
Yes in his mind he’s just entering the wilderness years.
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
To be honest I read that as “he’s gone anyway, no need to rush this”.
If Johnson were to call a General Election, as a way of clinging to power, or at least attempting to, I would revise all my previous criticism of the FTPA.
As an aide... Were Johnson that stupid (and I really don't think he is), then I think there would be an awful lot of very surprised libdem MPs in the South of England.
But think about it. Maybe if he can't have an election the only way of saving his premiership would be a nuclear war with Russia.
But if that happened, there would be nobody left to read all about Boris in the History books. He would be forgotten with immediate effect.
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Problem with stories like this is that we are getting 2 opposite decisions from different reporters.
The sane thing is for the current 1922 committee to ensure they have enough letters that they perform the deed as their last act...
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
In these circumstances the Queen takes the advice of her Privy Council - which is effectively the Cabinet. Johnson has already lost most of them. Besides, as you keep pointing out the last time they tried something like this over prorogation it was declared illegal. She enabled an illegal act perpetrated by Johnson. Do you not think she will have looked at that and thought never again?
Boris requesting and HMQ approving an early election would end up with the Tories worse than decimated and probably a 1997 style Labour landslide.
It ain't happening. But would almost be funny if it did.
Why won't it happen? Nick Palmer has made the point that Gordon Brown threatened an election to Labour MPs who were trying to remove him. Unfortunately we have a very elderly and frail monarch who even in her prime would always act on the advice of her prime minister. I wonder what her son is thinking about it all?
She has a higher duty to protect the constitution from abuse and this is abuse and her advisors will be telling her that. She's not that frail.
Anyway by time Johnson's car makes its way through traffic to Windsor he will no longer command the House and she can see him to accept his resignation.
Or helicopter. But the humiliation of not getting the chopper back ...
Speaking as someone not averse to a bit of personal storification, I wonder if Boris has one eye on that memoir advance
The more spectacularly chaotic and bizarre he makes his departure, the more publishers will clamour to buy his tell-all autobiography - and the more they will pay
This week will make the perfect ending - to volume one
Boris Johnson finally admits meeting ex-KGB agent Alexander Lebedev while Foreign Secretary, at height of Skripal poisoning crisis without officials or security. He went directly from NATO summit on Russia & Salisbury. Serious national security Qs. How was this allowed to happen? https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1544716533842206720/video/1
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
Boris requesting and HMQ approving an early election would end up with the Tories worse than decimated and probably a 1997 style Labour landslide.
It ain't happening. But would almost be funny if it did.
Why won't it happen? Nick Palmer has made the point that Gordon Brown threatened an election to Labour MPs who were trying to remove him. Unfortunately we have a very elderly and frail monarch who even in her prime would always act on the advice of her prime minister. I wonder what her son is thinking about it all?
Her private secretary, in reality, gives her a huge amount of political and constitutional advice and he's wired into the civil service and Government.
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
That does give him a "window" from tonight to Monday to seek a dissolution.
In these circumstances the Queen takes the advice of her Privy Council - which is effectively the Cabinet. Johnson has already lost most of them. Besides, as you keep pointing out the last time they tried something like this over prorogation it was declared illegal. She enabled an illegal act perpetrated by Johnson. Do you not think she will have looked at that and thought never again?
I think the Privy Councillors Cameron, May, Brown, Blair, and Major would also get a hearing.
. . . . [Washington State Office of Fiscal Management] OFM showed Seattle’s population at 742,000 and the Census Bureau’s number was 734,000 — a difference of only about 8,000. The two agencies’ estimates for King County were different by about 35,000, which isn’t so huge considering the total population was nearly 2.3 million last year.
The two agencies are on different timetables in releasing their population data. The Census Bureau has a greater lag time — their 2021 figures came out only this spring — while OFM just released its 2022 estimates last week.
The new OFM data shows growth has picked up steam as we emerge from the pandemic. . . .
. . . . King County grew by around 30,000 from April 1, 2021 to April 1, 2022, and the population passed the 2.3 million mark. Most of the county’s growth was in Seattle, which is a similar pattern to what we saw in the 2010s, when Seattle grew at a much faster rate than the suburbs.
Seattle’s population hit 762,500 in 2022, up around 20,000 from the year before. That’s an increase of 2.7%, which isn’t so far off from the impressive growth rates we saw in the boom era of the 2010s.
In comparison, King County (not including Seattle) grew by only around 10,500 residents, or a .7% increase.
The primary engine of growth in King County was migration, with about 22,000 more people moving in than moving away in the one-year period. OFM’s data also shows roughly 23,500 births and 15,000 deaths in King County, for what’s called a “natural increase” of close to 8,300. . . .
SSI - for the first 25 years or so that I lived in Seattle, the city population share relative to the rest of the state AND rest of King County was slowly dropping, a trend that had been going on for decades prior.
In recent years, the trend reversed, as could be seen on a year-to-year basis in the growth of voter registration and turnout in Seattle, especially in neighborhoods with growing numbers of techies.
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Problem with stories like this is that we are getting 2 opposite decisions from different reporters.
The sane thing is for the current 1922 committee to ensure they have enough letters that they perform the deed as their last act...
I suspect Old Lady has received cabinet assurances of defenestration so they dont change rules and store up future trouble for a more worthy leader
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Disputed
But anyway new committee will stand on a change the rules manifesto
And anyway the Cabinet is about to resign en masse
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Well well, that is a development.
The Men in Grey Suits think they can get his resignation.....
1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Not really. It would just require the deputy PM to show he has the support of Parliament as a caretaker.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
Which Caesar, though?
He’s a mix isn’t he? A dash of Julius, a hint of Tiberius, distant echoes of Heliogabulus, not much Augustus
1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Only in the UK could part of our (unwritten) constitution be based on a letter to the Times in 1950
If I understand correctly the 1922 have decided NOT to change their rules today.
Boris wriggles out again. He has his eye on outlasting Theresa May, and indeed the now vanishingly slim possibility of a dead cat from who knows where.
Having said that, the 1922 is not the be-all and end-all.
As I understand it, is no longer possible to fill all the ministerial posts, and nor does he appear to enjoy the support of Cabinet. Those facts alone would ordinarily end things.
The Lascelles Principles are a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom beginning in 1950, under which the Sovereign can refuse a request from the Prime Minister to dissolve Parliament if three conditions are met:
(1) the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", (2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and (3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons
All three apply. It was literally written for circumstances like this.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
Which Caesar, though?
He’s a mix isn’t he? A dash of Julius, a hint of Tiberius, distant echoes of Heliogabulus, not much Augustus
Guardian political editor confirms the previous post
Jessica Elgot @jessicaelgot · 6m New - 1922 committee will not change rules tonight. Elections for the new committee will take place with results Monday night. Rules could then change by Tuesday. Jessica Elgot @jessicaelgot Committee decided it’s “only right” they know the change has full confidence of the party.
The more I think about it, the more I am convinced he is - at least partly - staging this all as theatre for the purposes of the memoir sales. He is not stupid, he does like drama, he knows how to tell a story, he understands publishing
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
You seem to be implying, that best interests of (currently) United Kingdom or the (allegedly) Conservative and Unionist Party, are of LESS consideration to Boris Johnson than his own selfish interest?
Could BJx2 make the same claim re: his (reputed) hero & role model, WSC?
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
To be honest I read that as “he’s gone anyway, no need to rush this”.
Or "As we're about to have an election, wait until next Monday before deciding."
If I understand correctly the 1922 have decided NOT to change their rules today.
Boris wriggles out again. He has his eye on outlasting Theresa May, and indeed the now vanishingly slim possibility of a dead cat from who knows where.
Having said that, the 1922 is not the be-all and end-all.
As I understand it, is no longer possible to fill all the ministerial posts, and nor does he appear to enjoy the support of Cabinet. Those facts alone would ordinarily end things.
He can outlast May be announcing his resignation tonight and saying he will serve until his successor is elected, with the election to end one day after he overtakes May.
If he refuses to resign, then it becomes a case of the 1922 is elected on a change the rules mandate and he's gone by next week with immediate effect.
If I understand correctly the 1922 have decided NOT to change their rules today.
Boris wriggles out again. He has his eye on outlasting Theresa May, and indeed the now vanishingly slim possibility of a dead cat from who knows where.
Having said that, the 1922 is not the be-all and end-all.
As I understand it, is no longer possible to fill all the ministerial posts, and nor does he appear to enjoy the support of Cabinet. Those facts alone would ordinarily end things.
As said above by someone else, I wonder if the 1922 has been asked by the Cabinet to “stand down, it’s in hand”. That way the rules can be made at a more sedate pace, and be less brutal on the successor.
The Lascelles Principles are a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom beginning in 1950, under which the Sovereign can refuse a request from the Prime Minister to dissolve Parliament if three conditions are met:
(1) the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", (2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and (3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons
All three apply. It was literally written for circumstances like this.
The monarch can refuse.
Only correction is that Point 2 is (supposedly) no longer relevant...
Boris requesting and HMQ approving an early election would end up with the Tories worse than decimated and probably a 1997 style Labour landslide.
It ain't happening. But would almost be funny if it did.
Why won't it happen? Nick Palmer has made the point that Gordon Brown threatened an election to Labour MPs who were trying to remove him. Unfortunately we have a very elderly and frail monarch who even in her prime would always act on the advice of her prime minister. I wonder what her son is thinking about it all?
She has a higher duty to protect the constitution from abuse and this is abuse and her advisors will be telling her that. She's not that frail.
Anyway by time Johnson's car makes its way through traffic to Windsor he will no longer command the House and she can see him to accept his resignation.
Or helicopter. But the humiliation of not getting the chopper back ...
We will know things are serious if HMQ drives to Buckingham Palace in order to save time.
1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Only in the UK could part of our (unwritten) constitution be based on a letter to the Times in 1950
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
Boris Johnson finally admits meeting ex-KGB agent Alexander Lebedev while Foreign Secretary, at height of Skripal poisoning crisis without officials or security. He went directly from NATO summit on Russia & Salisbury. Serious national security Qs. How was this allowed to happen? https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/status/1544716533842206720/video/1
Don't say rude things about Mr Lebedev. He's getting appointed Foreign Secretary tomorrow.
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
That he does not have confidence from the House. She would not “refuse”, she would defer, until the above fact is transparent.
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
The majority in parliament don't want one and a stable majority government can be formed?
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
That he no longer commands a majority and she expects to be formally asked to appoint the person who does shortly.
Boris requesting and HMQ approving an early election would end up with the Tories worse than decimated and probably a 1997 style Labour landslide.
It ain't happening. But would almost be funny if it did.
Why won't it happen? Nick Palmer has made the point that Gordon Brown threatened an election to Labour MPs who were trying to remove him. Unfortunately we have a very elderly and frail monarch who even in her prime would always act on the advice of her prime minister. I wonder what her son is thinking about it all?
She has a higher duty to protect the constitution from abuse and this is abuse and her advisors will be telling her that. She's not that frail.
Anyway by time Johnson's car makes its way through traffic to Windsor he will no longer command the House and she can see him to accept his resignation.
Or helicopter. But the humiliation of not getting the chopper back ...
We will know things are serious if HMQ drives to Buckingham Palace in order to save time.
Or gets Charles to do it in Buck House. Where is the Chooky Rosay by the way?
The Lascelles Principles are a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom beginning in 1950, under which the Sovereign can refuse a request from the Prime Minister to dissolve Parliament if three conditions are met:
(1) the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", (2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and (3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons
All three apply. It was literally written for circumstances like this.
The monarch can refuse.
Only correction is that Point 2 is (supposedly) no longer relevant...
Probably because there are often elections at times of crisis or recession.
But I think it's an aggravating factor and comes into play if (1) and (3) are in force.
1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Only in the UK could part of our (unwritten) constitution be based on a letter to the Times in 1950
1) if the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job", 2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and 3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons".
point 2 is supposedly irrelevant now but surely points 1 and 3 hold - it would just require the Tory Party to hold a coronation rather than an election...
Only in the UK could part of our (unwritten) constitution be based on a letter to the Times in 1950
Why am I slightly proud of this?
I am what holds this country back
Where do you stand on Morris Dancer's refusal to use the quote function?
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
2017 was under the terms of FTPA and supported by the Commons
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Well well, that is a development.
The Men in Grey Suits think they can get his resignation.....
Meh - lets assume a stack of them say "we quit if you don't" and then do so. He will send out Rees-Mogg and Dorries and Clarke to say how wonderful he is. And appoint David Duguid and Matt Vickers to Cabinet.
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
I think HMQ would grant a dissolution if Boris asked for it. Since Churchill has she ever gone against the wishes of her Prime Minister?
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
In 2017 there was a law that required Parliament to show its strong support for an election in advance. Not now.
I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant. We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.
Speaking as someone not averse to a bit of personal storification, I wonder if Boris has one eye on that memoir advance
The more spectacularly chaotic and bizarre he makes his departure, the more publishers will clamour to buy his tell-all autobiography - and the more they will pay
This week will make the perfect ending - to volume one
Why would anyone part with good money to read it, you wouldn't be able to believe a word in it. If he does do one I hope bookshops have the decency to put it in the fiction section.
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
You forgotten Jennifer Whatshername
Arise, Baroness Arcuri of Ride-em-cowboy (Countess of Westward Ho!)
BREAKING The 1922 committee executive has met and decided not to change the rules to allow a second no confidence vote in Boris Johnson. Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm. All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed. https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
Problem with stories like this is that we are getting 2 opposite decisions from different reporters.
The sane thing is for the current 1922 committee to ensure they have enough letters that they perform the deed as their last act...
I suspect Old Lady has received cabinet assurances of defenestration so they dont change rules and store up future trouble for a more worthy leader
Does anyone really think, that Boris Johnson would NOT stoop to bullying a 96-year old great-granny?
I mean, he practically wiped his fat, foul you-know-what on the Queen's tablecloth the eve of her husband's funeral.
I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant. We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.
If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
There’s a reason he’s been breeding millions of children…..
The cabinet table would look like a field of dandelions.
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
You forgotten Jennifer Whatshername
Arise, Baroness Arcuri of Ride-em-cowboy (Countess of Westward Ho!)
Old cowpoke lingo "rode hard, put away wet" springs to, ahem, mind.
Come on Boris, just for the bants, fire those Cabinet Ministers in grey suits and replace them with Carrie Johnson, Lord Lebedev, Dilyn the dog, Stanley Johnson, the Russian violinist, the Canadian hairdresser, and Darius Guppy.
You forgotten Jennifer Whatshername
Arise, Baroness Arcuri of Ride-em-cowboy (Countess of Westward Ho!)
I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant. We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.
Well, Mr Johnson knows all about the Sibylline Books, being a classicist, or so I presume.
Speaking as someone not averse to a bit of personal storification, I wonder if Boris has one eye on that memoir advance
The more spectacularly chaotic and bizarre he makes his departure, the more publishers will clamour to buy his tell-all autobiography - and the more they will pay
This week will make the perfect ending - to volume one
Why would anyone part with good money to read it, it will just be one lie after another. You wouldn't be able to believe a word he says. If he does do one I hope booksellers have the good grace to put it in the fiction section.
Whether fact or fiction, Boris is hopeless at long-form anyway. As far as I can tell his greater “works” are pretty much unreadable.
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
We had the Fixed Term Parliaments Act in 2017, so it was Parliament that voted for an early election and it wasn't up to the Queen.
If ever there was a case for a written constitution then Boris Johnson has made it through his complete disregard for convention
If ever there's a case for an unwritten constitution then Boris Johnson being removed within 24 hours, despite the written rules saying he was safe, shows precisely why it is worth keeping. 👍
If Boris is still leader of the Conservative Party and the Conservative Party hold the majority of seats in the House of Commons then by definition Boris commands the majority of the House. He's not having difficulty getting legislation through the Commons so his government is still functioning. Can the Queen really get involved in the morass of Conservative Party internal politics by doing the PCP's dirty work for them?
A letter to the Times from 1950 A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing A portent in the sky over Whitstable! A diary believed lost during World War 2 A sturdy hymn
In these circumstances the Queen takes the advice of her Privy Council - which is effectively the Cabinet. Johnson has already lost most of them. Besides, as you keep pointing out the last time they tried something like this over prorogation it was declared illegal. She enabled an illegal act perpetrated by Johnson. Do you not think she will have looked at that and thought never again?
I do not think she is that bothered, but we will know soon enough.
Boris Johnson staying in Parliament and refusing to go home to Number 10 and face his mutinous cabinet, channelling the energy of a wayward teen refusing to go home to his seething parents after stealing their car https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/1544720613385932801
OK, so correct me if I am wrong, but the Sovereign asks the PM whether he/she or anyone else can form a majority. The Tory Party would *simply* need to coalesce around a unity candidate who could. None of them will want a GE.
I think we should.base the constitution on letters to Viz, Daily Star, Express and Hexham Courant. We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.
If we based our entire system of government on Viz Top Tips the country would be improved beyond recognition.
A letter to the Times from 1950 A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing A portent in the sky over Whitstable! A diary believed lost during World War 2 A sturdy hymn
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I have 5000 reasons that would be a good idea.
Their objective will be to avoid putting the Queen in a political position and they can do that by making it clear where the real politics lie and organising alternative political delegations accordingly.
The old software seems to have crashed.
Instead 1922 executive elections will be held on Monday 2pm to 4pm.
All 18 places on the executive will be up for grabs. Proxy votes allowed.
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1544715690237726723
BoZo won't resign, and they can't make him...
The book would end drably if he just meekly resigned after a mild ticking off from Ben Wallace. The book, the story, the life, the whole mythos of Boris Johnson requires that he is assassinated with much shedding of blood and screams in dark alleys. That’s the only way Caesar could fall, ditto Boris
That’s ONE reason he is dragging this out, with every dramatic hour that passes with him still in place, he adds another £20k to the advance he will get
The sane thing is for the current 1922 committee to ensure they have enough letters that they perform the deed as their last act...
Surely he wouldn't would he?
If the PM refuses to go the message is clear - they will resign themselves
It's the final extraordinary standoff with the PM - surely no way he can survive this
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544716808267112451
Seattle Times ($) -
. . . . [Washington State Office of Fiscal Management] OFM showed Seattle’s population at 742,000 and the Census Bureau’s number was 734,000 — a difference of only about 8,000. The two agencies’ estimates for King County were different by about 35,000, which isn’t so huge considering the total population was nearly 2.3 million last year.
The two agencies are on different timetables in releasing their population data. The Census Bureau has a greater lag time — their 2021 figures came out only this spring — while OFM just released its 2022 estimates last week.
The new OFM data shows growth has picked up steam as we emerge from the pandemic. . . .
. . . . King County grew by around 30,000 from April 1, 2021 to April 1, 2022, and the population passed the 2.3 million mark. Most of the county’s growth was in Seattle, which is a similar pattern to what we saw in the 2010s, when Seattle grew at a much faster rate than the suburbs.
Seattle’s population hit 762,500 in 2022, up around 20,000 from the year before. That’s an increase of 2.7%, which isn’t so far off from the impressive growth rates we saw in the boom era of the 2010s.
In comparison, King County (not including Seattle) grew by only around 10,500 residents, or a .7% increase.
The primary engine of growth in King County was migration, with about 22,000 more people moving in than moving away in the one-year period. OFM’s data also shows roughly 23,500 births and 15,000 deaths in King County, for what’s called a “natural increase” of close to 8,300. . . .
SSI - for the first 25 years or so that I lived in Seattle, the city population share relative to the rest of the state AND rest of King County was slowly dropping, a trend that had been going on for decades prior.
In recent years, the trend reversed, as could be seen on a year-to-year basis in the growth of voter registration and turnout in Seattle, especially in neighborhoods with growing numbers of techies.
But anyway new committee will stand on a change the rules manifesto
And anyway the Cabinet is about to resign en masse
Robert Peston
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And Shapps has just walked in to 10 Downing St to deliver the message to Johnson he has to resign
He has also brought in an agency worker to take over the job short term...
Boris wriggles out again. He has his eye on outlasting Theresa May, and indeed the now vanishingly slim possibility of a dead cat from who knows where.
Having said that, the 1922 is not the be-all and end-all.
As I understand it, is no longer possible to fill all the ministerial posts, and nor does he appear to enjoy the support of Cabinet. Those facts alone would ordinarily end things.
(1) the existing Parliament is still "vital, viable, and capable of doing its job",
(2) if a general election would be "detrimental to the national economy", and
(3) if the Sovereign could "rely on finding another prime minister who could govern for a reasonable period with a working majority in the House of Commons
All three apply. It was literally written for circumstances like this.
The monarch can refuse.
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New - 1922 committee will not change rules tonight. Elections for the new committee will take place with results Monday night. Rules could then change by Tuesday.
Jessica Elgot
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Committee decided it’s “only right” they know the change has full confidence of the party.
Could BJx2 make the same claim re: his (reputed) hero & role model, WSC?
If he refuses to resign, then it becomes a case of the 1922 is elected on a change the rules mandate and he's gone by next week with immediate effect.
BUT fatal to leadership ambitions I think. Too much of a snake, esp coming after Boris
https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/1544718099294916610
Have they met him..?
I am what holds this country back
He's been a fucking useless Chancellor anyway, so no big loss.
We didn't need a general election in 2017. The Queen agreed to it. Prime ministers will often seek a dissolution after 4 years of sitting. What is her justification for refusing?
But I think it's an aggravating factor and comes into play if (1) and (3) are in force.
Like now.
While all of this is going on, Liz Truss is currently cruising at 35,000ft above the Persian Gulf on her way to a G20 meeting in Indonesia.
https://www.flightradar24.com/KRH645/2c87f8c8 https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1544717781022679040/photo/1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Japanese_general_election
An executive committee elected to change the rules answers that.
We could randomly draw one for advice at times of constitutional crisis.
I mean, he practically wiped his fat, foul you-know-what on the Queen's tablecloth the eve of her husband's funeral.
The cabinet table would look like a field of dandelions.
“During my Chancellorship, the pound was more stable than under any other Chancellor since the war”
Wasn't he the wiseguy Goodfellas was based on?
Speaking darkly about loyalty.
A letter to the Times from 1950
A sentence drunkenly written on the label of a bottle of Dow’s port, possibly by William Bagehot
Seven husky words spoken by the dying King Charles II to Nell Gwynne
Nineteen pages of impenetrable code known only to Alan Turing
A portent in the sky over Whitstable!
A diary believed lost during World War 2
A sturdy hymn
https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/1544720613385932801