Since it was founded in 2004 the Conservativehome website has proved to be a good indicator of the mood amongst party members so this afternoon’s survey with 55% wanting Johnson out is not good news for the PM less than 2 hours before his fate is decided by the parliamentary party.
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May as well beg like a dog
(I can think of an easy correction, and you all should be able to think of many more.)
Why wouldn't you if you were?
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1533830669264093185
Scott_xP said:
Very much worth reading while Johnson’s fate hangs in the balance https://twitter.com/redhistorian/status/1533780722304942085
I said:
That's a pretty fair assessment and one I largely agree with but I would make 2 points.
Firstly, and critically, where is the economic competence that the government is so sorely lacking going to come from? The only one who might have offered it is Rishi but he has been holed below the water line by his own FPN.
Secondly, the next 18 months are going to be very difficult, no matter who is leader. A whole lot of grief is coming and the government is going to struggle very badly with numerous things out of its control. Is this really going to set up any new leader for the next election or should Boris have to take this grief for now and change leaders later?
If I was a Tory MP tonight I really don't know what I would do. There are no good choices, to be honest. Its what is the least bad.
It was arguably a reasonable line before the VONC was called, but he needed a different line now.
Then we have the by-elections...
I might go for a tad lower margin if I guessed now, but not that much, and I don't see the need to resile from an already stated guess.
Patrick Maguire @patrickkmaguire
Tory MPs say Boris Johnson cited “Putin’s aggression” as a reason not to oust him at meeting of 1922 Committee just now twitter.com/patrickkmaguir…
https://twitter.com/jonsopel/status/1533832411863195650
He is Sir John Falstaff, and we will miss the cakes and ale
Perhaps his current appearance isn't the best thing he could be doing.
I think the bounder Johnson has set England on course for several decades of decline.
Ill be really pissed off if so. Cowards.
Tee hee hee. Election disaster in GE is heading their way. The public 'aint gonna forget what he has done imho.
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1533822102092095490?s=20&t=EGpA8wfcZlW2Ifw4mT6gbw
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1533813344414703617?s=20&t=EGpA8wfcZlW2Ifw4mT6gbw
Part of me would love to see him unceremoniously booted out. But it might be a case of better the devil you know. I dread to think who the membership of the party might foist on us if Johnson is defenestrated.
Metaphorically. If forced to imagine sex with Boris I would imagine it is fairly perfunctory but there’s quite a lot of it
Raab PM by Friday?
Quite a position from Steve Baker.
6.4 now
"Handbags at the ‘22…
Mark Harper asks why “colleagues should continue to defend the indefensible” and asks why PM removed references to “honesty and integrity” from foreword of ministerial code
Adds: “There’s no point the prime minister pulling a face at me.”
and
"Boris Johnson says he takes “real exception” to Harper questioning his honesty and integrity
Responds with reference to leadership in the Nolan principles and argues he showed that during the pandemic
MP heckles: “That’s not what the Sue Gray report says.”"
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1533832652138086401
The jokes are falling flat.
BUT THAT WASN'T THE POINT I WAS MAKING!
@moonshine argued that we'd still have mask mandates if Hunt was PM. My argument was that as even the European countries has gotten rid of theirs, I doubt we'd be going out on a limb
Its not about YOU forgiving and moving on you myopic fuckers
Boris Johnson says he takes “real exception” to Harper questioning his honesty and integrity
Responds with reference to leadership in the Nolan principles and argues he showed that during the pandemic
MP heckles: “That’s not what the Sue Gray report says.”
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1533832736083005440
They may scrape home in 2024 (like 92) for no other reason that it takes a lot of lose a landslide majority in one go... but I'm convinced the 2030s will be a Labour decade and a good ten years or more of Opposition is on the way for Con.
2 out of the 5 questions to Johnson were hostile.
That's interesting... only five questions? They've already made their minds up, haven't they? To me that's another bad sign for Boris.
(I might be completely wrong, of course!)
He will be gone by July if not before
If Churchill had said at the time there was "no obvious successor", there were 5 future Prime Ministers in the Commons
In all seriousness- the fact he was openly asked 2 hostile questions (out of 5) suggests that things are close. I think many have been underestimating the mood in the parliamentary party.
On the flip side, if he does lose it, there will be no greater joy than to see an end to his career in such a manner
Statement expected shortly
https://twitter.com/GlennBBC/status/1533835725367541762
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1533835719168376832
This is true.
The day he leaves will be his best day in office.
I didn’t clock any among scores of MPs heading into 1922 cmtte meeting just now. A colleague has spotted one.
https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/1533834685968703491
Maybe he'll offer Boris a job?
Then I remember that this guy runs the country I live in. If he doesn't go until 8.30 pm, that's 30 minutes too long.
https://twitter.com/RichardVaughan1/status/1533835945446887424
So those odds are value. I've certainly topped up.
Projection:
LAB 56%
CON 33%
IND 3%
REFUK 3%
LIB DEM 2%
GREENS 2%
YORKSHIRE PARTY 1%
BRITAIN FIRST 1%
https://twitter.com/ChrisBurn_Post/status/1533836369696538625
Projection:
LAB 56%
CON 33%
IND 3%
REFUK 3%
LIB DEM 2%
GREENS 2%
YORKSHIRE PARTY 1%
BRITAIN FIRST 1%
https://twitter.com/ChrisBurn_Post/status/1533836369696538625
If it’s 100-140 he’ll be out in 6 months to a year if not sooner.
Below 100 probably safe but unlikely to fight the GE.
It’s all just a matter of timing now.
Projection:
LAB 56%
CON 33%
IND 3%
REFUK 3%
LIB DEM 2%
GREENS 2%
YORKSHIRE PARTY 1%
BRITAIN FIRST 1%
THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER