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  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 341
    Lithuania still my favourite.
    Australia was abysmal!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,122
    biggles said:

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    And the aliens themselves.
    "....and now the votes from the Alpha Centauri jury....there might be lag on the line of a few light years...."
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264
    DavidL said:

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    Do aliens get to vote?
    Some perform.
  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 341
    I'm a space fan but Ryder was underwhelming.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264

    biggles said:

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    And the aliens themselves.
    "....and now the votes from the Alpha Centauri jury....there might be lag on the line of a few light years...."
    Or oblivion as we burst into flames courtesy of the Death Star after they saw Australia……
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321
    Xtrain said:

    Lithuania still my favourite.
    Australia was abysmal!

    Yes, worth a punt for last place, along with Serbia and Azerberjan
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,238
    Pulpstar said:

    So many of these songs disappearing up their own arseholes. Australia the worst so far I think
    I'm voting for Moldova so far

    Best reception in the arena, for what that’s worth.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215
    Moldova and our entry are the best so far. The French one was good too.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,329
    Estonia. The best saved til last.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,231
    Estonia closes out the "singing" part of the contest!

    Now for the voting...
  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 341
    He was quite good. Estonia.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,130
    So is this where we get to interesting part of the evening with all those silly musical intermissions out of the road?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264
    MaxPB said:

    Moldova and our entry are the best so far. The French one was good too.

    Nah, Norway!
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,970

    biggles said:

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    And the aliens themselves.
    "....and now the votes from the Alpha Centauri jury....there might be lag on the line of a few light years...."

    Nerd Alert

    A light year is a measure of distance not time
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,122
    MaxPB said:

    Moldova and our entry are the best so far. The French one was good too.

    We liked Portugal

    And the banana wolves
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215
    Switzerland and Australia the worst. If we lose to either of them it's time to call it, this year our entry is actually really good.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,122

    biggles said:

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    And the aliens themselves.
    "....and now the votes from the Alpha Centauri jury....there might be lag on the line of a few light years...."

    Nerd Alert

    A light year is a measure of distance not time
    Oh c'mon, you expect Eurovision hosts to know that?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264
    DavidL said:

    So is this where we get to interesting part of the evening with all those silly musical intermissions out of the road?

    Yes. Definitely the best bit.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    I see that in the running order, Germany were right behind Ukraine.

    Which seems to just invite sardonic comment...
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,935
    Have to agree about Australia. V poor.

    Gun to head trifecta - Ukraine Spain Norway
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,329

    MaxPB said:

    Moldova and our entry are the best so far. The French one was good too.

    We liked Portugal

    And the banana wolves
    Agree on Portugal. Nice song.
  • PensfoldPensfold Posts: 191
    Whilst in other news.

    The 2015 version of Far from the Madding Crowd demonstrated on BBC2 how much better film making was in 1967 with Julie Christe, Terence Stamp and Alan Bates.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,935
    Marr tweeting away about Eurovision. He's Got His Voice Back!
  • PensfoldPensfold Posts: 191
    Pensfold said:

    Whilst in other news.

    The 2015 version of Far from the Madding Crowd demonstrated on BBC2 how much better film making was in 1967 with Julie Christe, Terence Stamp and Alan Bates.

    Apart from the title which is Maddening of course.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    My top 5 , Poland, UK, Ukraine , Romania , Netherlands .

    Australia and Serbia share the wooden spoon.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215
    Top 5 for me - Moldova, UK, France, Spain and Greece

    Bottom 5 - Australia, Switzerland, Serbia, Estonia, Finland
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,975
    I quite liked Greece though no-one else is mentioning it.

    The first half was largely forgettable. Finland, Ukraine, Greece, UK and Estonia were decent. Moldova and Serbia were certainly interesting....
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264
    I’m on catchup a bit behind the rest of you. What on Earth was Serbia?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,660
    When do you get the result? (I'm not watching but have had a couple of bets.)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321
    My top 5 excluding UK.

    Spain, Lithuania, Moldova, Norway and Estonia

  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 892
    Ok so why do we think the UK drifted from 12 pre-song to 15.5 afterwards?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,775
    Pulpstar said:

    So many of these songs disappearing up their own arseholes. Australia the worst so far I think
    I'm voting for Moldova so far

    I think my favourite is Ukraine. Not because of the war, but because it’s the best musically. Serbia and Norway good too.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264

    When do you get the result? (I'm not watching but have had a couple of bets.)

    About 90 days ago when Russia invaded Ukraine…..
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,329

    When do you get the result? (I'm not watching but have had a couple of bets.)

    It doesn't take quite as long as an STV count, but not far off.
  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 341
    My top 3
    Lithuania
    Ukraine
    Estonia

    Bottom 3
    Australia
    Moldova
    Belgium
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 174

    When do you get the result? (I'm not watching but have had a couple of bets.)

    I believe results start to come in around 11pm, all results in by 11.45pm
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,932
    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,502
    I don't have a TV. First time in 4 months I've regretted that decision.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,231

    When do you get the result? (I'm not watching but have had a couple of bets.)

    Counting starts at 9am tomorrow (only kidding!)
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,775
    Spain and their Smackie Bum Bum song for the win
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,231

    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury

    12 years of Tory mis-rule.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,932
    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,935
    To clarify, my trifecta was my predicted top 3 not my fav top 3.

    My fav top 3 were Spain, Serbia, Norway.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,577

    Where's Leon?

    Hanging out with @Cyclefree ’s daughter?

    😇
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,231

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Ratings, ratings, ratings!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,502
    For people with radios. Fascinating documentary on the "repetitive beats" legislation on R4 tonight.
    Including a very young Blair. And a not so young Corbyn.
    A salutary lesson on a Culture War.
    It isn't new.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,932
    On a train back from Cambridge to London. Let's just say that @Leon would be loving it.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,330
    edited May 2022

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Most Australians' families are of European origin however
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 892
    dixiedean said:

    I don't have a TV. First time in 4 months I've regretted that decision.

    No PC/laptop or phone?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264
    edited May 2022

    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury

    We had to make do with drafty, leaking, temporary classrooms and one book between three. Character building.

    And bring back the turkey twizzlers, Smash, and beans followed by banana and custard with a nice thick skin.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,409
    I have seen references to Eurovision in both US and NZ media.

    Bizarre; it seems to be growing in global reach.

    I’ve never seen it.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited May 2022
    Uk dropped to 4th in the betting behind Ukraine, Sweden and Spain
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,932
    MaxPB said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
    If you're going to let Australia in then why not Korea? At least they actually produce good pop music.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,130
    DavidL said:

    So is this where we get to interesting part of the evening with all those silly musical intermissions out of the road?

    I definitely spoke too soon didn't I?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215

    MaxPB said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
    If you're going to let Australia in then why not Korea? At least they actually produce good pop music.
    Nah, Australia is a bants country, they're in it because they don't take themselves too seriously.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,425

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
    It IS this country. @Cyclefree has unintentionally misled you. She is not posting her daughters pictures here.
    No misleading - unintentional or otherwise. That's what the phrase "Gorgeous day today - as you can see below" means.

    Next time I'll put "IN THE PHOTO BELOW".

    Honestly ....
  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 341
    Favourite winner ever.
    Vicky Leandros "Apres Toi".
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215
    ping said:

    Uk dropped to 4th in the betting behind Ukraine, Sweden and Spain

    The Spanish lady was particularly watchable.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,975
    dixiedean said:

    I don't have a TV. First time in 4 months I've regretted that decision.

    I thought you were going to say it's moments like this that remind you why you don't!

    I do believe you can still listen in to the results on the wireless.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277

    MaxPB said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
    If you're going to let Australia in then why not Korea? At least they actually produce good pop music.
    They eat dogs ! We wouldn’t want a few pooches getting the chop if South Korea win and want to celebrate !
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,330

    MaxPB said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
    If you're going to let Australia in then why not Korea? At least they actually produce good pop music.
    Korea is not in Europe and nor are most Koreans of European ancestry, unlike most Australians
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215

    I have seen references to Eurovision in both US and NZ media.

    Bizarre; it seems to be growing in global reach.

    I’ve never seen it.

    The UK has got huge social media reach into the English speaking world, it's not a huge surprise that a social media friendly event has become more popular in the last 10 years.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,425

    Where's Leon?

    Hanging out with @Cyclefree ’s daughter?

    😇
    I do hope not! A flint dildo knapper is not quite what I had in mind. Also she will make mincemeat of him.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,502

    dixiedean said:

    I don't have a TV. First time in 4 months I've regretted that decision.

    No PC/laptop or phone?
    I could.
    But I resisted.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,789
    In 1961 the UK came second with the Allisons "Are you sure". One of the duo was a class ahead of me at school.
  • ExiledInScotlandExiledInScotland Posts: 1,530
    Our puppy liked the Norwegian wolves
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,525

    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury

    Everybody should look at that article if only to see the photo of Gove about halfway down. It's astonishing - he looks like a coked-up alien.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,215

    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury

    Everybody should look at that article if only to see the photo of Gove about halfway down. It's astonishing - he looks like a coked-up alien.
    Are we sure that he isn't?
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 892
    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321

    Don't want to detract from Eurovision but our kids' schools are falling down. Or does anyone who matters go private?

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/may/14/england-crumbling-schools-risk-warn-no-10-education-department-treasury

    Everybody should look at that article if only to see the photo of Gove about halfway down. It's astonishing - he looks like a coked-up alien.
    He takes a bad photo, but there the photographer has captured his inner lizard very well.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,256
    Well that Indycar race was very chaotic in the rain. Anything else happening tonight?
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 174
    I'm tempted to lay UK finishing in the top 5, reckon we are on for 7th
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Sandpit said:

    Well that Indycar race was very chaotic in the rain. Anything else happening tonight?

    Some singy songy thing happening in a foreign country. ‘tis all.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805

    I'm tempted to lay UK finishing in the top 5, reckon we are on for 7th

    I laid UK on the winner w/o Ukraine market @3.5 during the performance. They’ve drifted significantly, since.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,264

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    Seems generous tbh.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Because it's a laugh.
    If you're going to let Australia in then why not Korea? At least they actually produce good pop music.
    Nah, Australia is a bants country, they're in it because they don't take themselves too seriously.
    This years entry though does. Going for the camp Trans vote just a bit too blatently and seriously.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,660

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    I had a small bet on Ukraine at 4/1, presumably thanks to a tip on here shortly after the invasion started.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    I am not convinced. Are Eurovision voters really following current affairs? I have no idea, so wouldnt back or lay Ukraine.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,030
    Is there an exit poll?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,329
    HYUFD said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Most Australians' families are of European origin however
    Or African, if you go back far enough.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,166
    Well we watched bits of Eurovision during the ad breaks for the quiz show on ITV. Dreary ballad after dreary ballad after dreary ballad, just like I remember from the 80s. But then flicked over again at the end and they were on to the mid session filler, which allowed my daughter to marvel at how unlike us the Europeans are in their idea of what telly should be like. And then the quick recaps of the songs - and the Moldovan entry looked fun. I've since looked it up on YouTube and it was genuinely enjoyable. Well done Moldova.
    Granted I didn't see all of it and no doubt there were some other fun bits among the identiballads, but I'm rooting for Moldova. And Ukraine, and the UK, obviously.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,970
    Norton just said "In space no-one can hear you scream at your hairdresser"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,651
    Foxy said:

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    I am not convinced. Are Eurovision voters really following current affairs? I have no idea, so wouldnt back or lay Ukraine.
    In 2014 the Eurovision crowd booed the Russian entry (which I thought was quite good), so even back then people interested in Eurovision followed things somewhat.

    Enough now to win? I haven't a clue, but it'd be hard to miss.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    Azerbaijan today:



  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,330
    edited May 2022

    HYUFD said:

    Why is Australia in Eurovision? My geography is not great, but I am pretty sure it's not in Europe.

    Most Australians' families are of European origin however
    Or African, if you go back far enough.
    That was before the first settlements in Europe.

    Since the populated European continent emerged then if you added those nations whose populations are mainly of European ancestry to the European nations who compere in Eurovision, then Canada, New Zealand, the USA, Chile and Argentina as well as Australia would be the maximum number of competitors in Eurovision
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,166
    Foxy said:

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    I am not convinced. Are Eurovision voters really following current affairs? I have no idea, so wouldnt back or lay Ukraine.
    I had a small bet on them at about 4s, I think. I think even the demographics with less interest than us in current affairs probably have an idea what's going on there. I think the chances of a 'show whose side we are on' vote are high. But I didn't see the song, and the song needs to be at least ok-ish for the sympathy vote to be enough.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,651
    TimT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    Azerbaijan today:



    Azerbaijan seems to have suffered quite the calamity, such that the very ground has been shifted 90 degrees. Presumably some sort of powerful earthquake, I hope you are there on relief efforts.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    Lol Greece from NL
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 174
    Nothing for Ukraine....wow
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,231
    UK third at the moment!
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Oooooh

    Ukraine drifting in the betting….
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,975
    I did mention Greece.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,321

    Nothing for Ukraine....wow

    Yes, but this is the Jury vote, not the popular vote.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,166
    Also, the audience still appear to be masked. Are masks still a thing in Italy and elsewhere on the continent?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,651

    Nothing for Ukraine....wow

    None so ruthless and cold hearted as Eurovision watchers.
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 563

    So has anyone had a big bet on Ukraine? They were 1.65 about 2 days or so ago. Now 1.35

    I have a big bet at average 1.56. Fairly confident but not completely.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,584
    .
    TimT said:

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    Azerbaijan today:


    Some serious camber on their roads.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,641
    Bizarre Inc Spain haven't won since 1970
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,023
    What happened to all the predictions of Ukraine getting sympathy votes?
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