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Opinium polling on Partygate v Beergate – – politicalbetting.com

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edited May 2022 in General
Opinium polling on Partygate v Beergate – – politicalbetting.com

Beergate seems to have given some a reason to like Starmer:> 1in4 have a more favourable view of Keir Starmer due to the way he has responded to the accusations of rule breaking.> A third have a more negative view of Boris Johnson due to his response to Partygate. pic.twitter.com/t0fNnsJr7A

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  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    edited May 2022
    IST unlike SKS in GE2024
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165
    Why is Noel Fielding hosting Eurovision?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    Thank god I'm not first twice in a row. Not sure what that would mean.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 66,759
    Applicant said:

    Thank god I'm not first twice in a row. Not sure what that would mean.

    You have to represent the UK at Eurovision next year #nulpoints
    Couldn't possibly be worse than Jemini.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,243
    But, but - were not PBers assuring one another, that Boris Johnson was gonna come off looking BETTER than Keir Starmer?

    Instead, on these numbers PM is looking way WORSE than LOTO to the Great British Public.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    No Tory Eurovision leads since December 6th!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723

    No Tory Eurovision leads since December 6th!

    No Tory Eurovision leads since December 6th!

    Cant even see one from space man
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    Applicant said:

    Thank god I'm not first twice in a row. Not sure what that would mean.

    You have to represent the UK at Eurovision next year #nulpoints
    Apparently the UK has a good chance according to Graham Norton.

    As for our entry Sam Ryder;

    'Ryder is in a long-term relationship with his partner Lois. He cites David Bowie, Elton John, and Queen as his music influences. Ryder believes in aliens, and once wanted to pursue a career as an astronaut. He claims that he once saw a UFO while in Hawaii as a child.'
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    The Rasmus representing Finland!
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 7,461
    edited May 2022
    I enjoyed the typo in the header (Opinium's tweet):

    While 3 in 5 think Starmer broke the rules, only 30% think he did so internationally.

    So 30% think Starmer is a global rule breaker. Harsh.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    Integrity convincing for 23%. I'm going in to bridge sales, 1 in 4 are potential clients
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,587

    But, but - were not PBers assuring one another, that Boris Johnson was gonna come off looking BETTER than Keir Starmer?

    Instead, on these numbers PM is looking way WORSE than LOTO to the Great British Public.

    Nonetheless Boris wins the penalty shootout.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    Applicant said:

    Thank god I'm not first twice in a row. Not sure what that would mean.

    You have to represent the UK at Eurovision next year #nulpoints
    Next year is already decided. A sacked SKS and Angie Rayner will sing a duet 'Forensic Ginger Curry'
    They will provisionally go by the name 'Integrity'


  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 7,461

    IST unlike SKS in GE2024

    200TH time that you've said that.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    Never mind Eurovision, the big triumph for Ukraine would be lifting the World Cup on 18 December. However, first they have to get past Scotland.

    World Cup Qualifier - Path A Winner - Best prices

    Scotland 3.75
    Ukraine 4.33
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    The French entry feels a bit arabic. Interesting....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922

    The French entry feels a bit arabic. Interesting....

    Sung in Breton*, no less.

    * nearest relatives Welsh and Cornish.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    Norway a bit surreal :lol:
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,960

    Norway a bit surreal :lol:

    But wifey loved it!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,281
    tlg86 said:

    Why is Noel Fielding hosting Eurovision?

    Naff programme requires a naff host?
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    HYUFD said:
    Yesterday’s YouGov Baxters thus (new boundaries):

    Lab 298 seats (+103)
    Con 262 (-116)
    SNP 50 (+2)
    LD 16 (+8)
    PC 4 (+2)
    Grn 1 (nc)
    Speaker 1 (nc)
    NI 18


  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    tlg86 said:

    Why is Noel Fielding hosting Eurovision?

    Mika's there too!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,587
    edited May 2022
    Is that Mika hosting with Morticia Addams?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165

    tlg86 said:

    Why is Noel Fielding hosting Eurovision?

    Mika's there too!
    He really is there! My comment was a joke. The girl looks a bit like Fielding.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Why is Noel Fielding hosting Eurovision?

    Mika's there too!
    He really is there! My comment was a joke. The girl looks a bit like Fielding.
    Yes, I know! Just I haven't seen or heard of Mika since his hits "Grace Kelly" and "Big Girls" in the Noughties!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,153
    Hope Ukraine win tonight. Also would be pleased if UK go top 10 👍
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 66,759

    Hope Ukraine win tonight. Also would be pleased if UK go top 10 👍

    Let's not be silly here.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339
    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,022
    At what level is it worth laying Ukraine? I mean, it's not totally certain, is it?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    I preferred it when eurovision fans were forced to hide their sick, morally reprehensible perversion and have secret eurovision parties whilst us real men listened to Johnny Cash or something.
    Then it all got messed up and the fancy boys took over with their gawdy outfits and gadding about.
    If my fists weren't bloodied from punching the walls I'd shake one.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165

    At what level is it worth laying Ukraine? I mean, it's not totally certain, is it?

    I was just thinking the opposite. But I’m not brave enough to pile in at 1.4
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 156
    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Just before the invasion where the odds were alot more reflective of where Ukraine would finish without the "war factor" they were floating around top 10. So they should pick up a respectable amount of point from Judges, but they are going to get 12's across the board from public vote.

    I wouldn't lay on them personally at all. Just my opinion though.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Just before the invasion where the odds were alot more reflective of where Ukraine would finish without the "war factor" they were floating around top 10. So they should pick up a respectable amount of point from Judges, but they are going to get 12's across the board from public vote.

    I wouldn't lay on them personally at all. Just my opinion though.
    Thanks. Noted.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    But you would the Spanish singer?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    Quite a Bond-theme vibe from Lithuania, or is it just me.
  • XtrainXtrain Posts: 337

    Quite a Bond-theme vibe from Lithuania, or is it just me.

    My fave so far!
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 24,587

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    But you would the Spanish singer?
    So Me Too passed both Spain and Sheffield by.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069

    Quite a Bond-theme vibe from Lithuania, or is it just me.

    Yes, quite a sixties easy listening vibe. 9.4 for a top ten place seems a reasonable punt.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    All those people who have been criticising Eurovision for Political voting all these years and now wanting a Ukraine win.

    Definitely not hypocrites!!

    I would prefer the best song to win ie the UK
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339
    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165
    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
    Just backed them @21. Probably a loser, but I’m inclined to agree that it was executed very well.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    Who's the Irish entrant this year? Is it Johnny Logan or is this his off year?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
    I liked San Marino and Israel

    Didnt make it out of SF2 though
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,074
    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    tlg86 said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
    Just backed them @21. Probably a loser, but I’m inclined to agree that it was executed very well.
    You must have gone Bananas
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    tlg86 said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
    Just backed them @21. Probably a loser, but I’m inclined to agree that it was executed very well.
    "And before that wolf eats my grandma
    Give that wolf a banana"
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069

    Who's the Irish entrant this year? Is it Johnny Logan or is this his off year?

    Went out in the Semi Final.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    edited May 2022
    Good evening

    The polls seem virtually static at present maybe because the public are not enthused by any party

    Mind you if you look at the approval ratings of Boris and Starmer they are near the same 27% to 28% and equal as best PM, at just 25%

    Maybe it is a plague on all your houses
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    Is it just me or has the quality stepped up from previous years?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,851

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    But you would the Spanish singer?
    Reminded me of Kamala Harris.

    Anyway, I did Uke at 2.7 weeks ago, smug city.

    Some good songs actually. It's a high class renewal.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 4,555
    On topic, of course we have had wall-to-wall coverage of Partygate for several months, while Beergate has only been a thing for a week or two. So we will, of course, have to see how they develop in parallel.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    But you would the Spanish singer?
    So Me Too passed both Spain and Sheffield by.
    You must be in agony if you passed Spain and Sheffield.

    A tiny little stone nearly killed me
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,851
    geoffw said:

    Is it just me or has the quality stepped up from previous years?

    No, I think you're right.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    Foxy said:

    Who's the Irish entrant this year? Is it Johnny Logan or is this his off year?

    Went out in the Semi Final.
    No Johnny Logan you see.
    Stupid Irish killing my hilarious 'remember when Johnny Logan was like always the Irish entrant' joke
    Semi final? Who the fuck enters a qualifier for this drivel?!

    Yeah, I was gonna have a vasectomy but I went out in the semi final
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069
    geoffw said:

    Is it just me or has the quality stepped up from previous years?

    Yes, some good ones this year, and Moldova still to come...
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339
    edited May 2022

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    But you would the Spanish singer?
    So Me Too passed both Spain and Sheffield by.
    And here was me about to make the obvious #metoo joke…..

    “You’d lay the Spanish entry? Me too”.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,931
    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Spain gets the lads and dads vote according to the At the Races form site.
    https://www.attheraces.com/tips/atr-tipsters/eurovision-2022-betting-guide
  • pingping Posts: 3,724
    Laid Sweden on the winner w/o Ukraine market @ 2.36
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 23,931
    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165
    geoffw said:

    Is it just me or has the quality stepped up from previous years?

    Really? It seems worse than normal to me!
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 156
    Of the last 18 UK Eurovision acts only 1 had finished in the top 10......
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
    Course we do

    Chesterfield Sheffield to name but 2
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
    Course we do

    Chesterfield Sheffield to name but 2
    Liz Truss suggests Mark Field
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,851
    tlg86 said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Foxy said:

    Spain, my tip for winner w/o Ukraine.

    We are all assuming Ukraine wins, but will the juries give it votes? The public won’t be enough.
    Winner w/o Ukraine market should be OK if Spain tops it.

    Plenty of flesh and a good dance tune. Works for me.

    I wouldnt lay Ukraine at any price.
    Should be Norway of course.
    Just backed them @21. Probably a loser, but I’m inclined to agree that it was executed very well.
    Yes, cut above. Top 5, I reckon. Maybe top 3.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    tlg86 said:

    geoffw said:

    Is it just me or has the quality stepped up from previous years?

    Really? It seems worse than normal to me!
    De gustibus non est disputandum.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069

    Of the last 18 UK Eurovision acts only 1 had finished in the top 10......

    Englebert?
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,397
    Cyclefree - Good luck to your daughter. From what you have said about her, I am sure she will do well in the future.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922

    Of the last 18 UK Eurovision acts only 1 had finished in the top 10......

    Jade Ewen - It's My Time - 2009
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 156
    Foxy said:

    Of the last 18 UK Eurovision acts only 1 had finished in the top 10......

    Englebert?
    Nope, he finished 25th out of 26
  • MPartridgeMPartridge Posts: 156

    Of the last 18 UK Eurovision acts only 1 had finished in the top 10......

    Jade Ewen - It's My Time - 2009
    Yep, a very solid 5th place
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    I'm sure I saw the Moldovan band busking on the Tube the other day :lol:
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,074
    edited May 2022

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
    I know. It is about 5 mins from where I live. Hence my phrase "as you can see below".

    The pics from Greece are of theatres and temples and other ancient ruins.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,960
    Moldova looks like a fun party place.....
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,165
    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    I did Scafell Pike today (got up in 2 hours, which I’m very happy with).

    This was Wast Water this afternoon:


  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 14,884

    Cyclefree said:

    "Far from the Madding Crowd" on BBC2 for those who do not give a tinker's cuss about Eurovision.

    Gorgeous day here today - as you can see below. I have been sitting in the sunshine designing my vegetable potager and other lovely garden matters.

    Daughter is in Greece having gone to Croatia first. Youngest son is joining her tomorrow. It is a long and well deserved holiday for them both. He was her front of house manager for the last year of her lease and bloody good at it. The last 3 years have been tough but she has made a profit, has learnt a huge amount and proved herself to be quite the tough entrepreneur. I look forward to seeing what she does next.

    I know all the criticisms made of jobs in hospitality but, at its best, it can teach those working in it so much. And it is so much harder than it looks to get it right. Snobbery about what is involved in doing so and doing it profitably is unnecessary.

    At the moment Daughter is sending me pictures of all the beautiful places she's visiting in Greece, which is making me quite envious.


    That is a field. We have fields in this country.
    It IS this country. @Cyclefree has unintentionally misled you. She is not posting her daughters pictures here.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    Decent Bonnie Tyler impression from the Swedish lass :)
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,171
    https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexit-witness-archive/andrew-mccormick/

    This is a very detailed interview with Andrew McCormick, a senior Northern Ireland civil servant, about Brexit and what was happening behind the scenes. It is very detailed and you need to understand all the acronyms, but it’s fascinating.

    In summary, the UK Government knew exactly what they were signing up to with the Northern Ireland Protocol all along.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    Aussie bloke's costume weighed 40 kg, allegedly!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,841
    If the UK wins do we get sanctioned for denying Ukraine and thus enabling Putin?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,772
    I think I am inclined to agree with the Australian. Definitely not the same.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339

    https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexit-witness-archive/andrew-mccormick/

    This is a very detailed interview with Andrew McCormick, a senior Northern Ireland civil servant, about Brexit and what was happening behind the scenes. It is very detailed and you need to understand all the acronyms, but it’s fascinating.

    In summary, the UK Government knew exactly what they were signing up to with the Northern Ireland Protocol all along.

    And? The Government thought it useful for the election and always planned a 180 on it. Whether you think that’s a scandal depends on whether you want this PM in power.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    UK's Sam Ryder!
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    Park in it, man.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    Where's Leon?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,723
    Brilliant performance UK Sam Ryder
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,069

    Brilliant performance UK Sam Ryder

    Yes, a good choice this year.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,842
    So many of these songs disappearing up their own arseholes. Australia the worst so far I think
    I'm voting for Moldova so far
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 4,339

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    And the aliens themselves.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 48,922
    Serbian hand-washing song!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,772

    I wonder if Ryder will get the alien believers on board?

    Do aliens get to vote?
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 4,534
    UK and Poland are my faves , Australia was self indulgent angst on steroids .
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