Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Cochrane Duncan of Camperdown Forth Clyde Caledonia Edinburgh Glasgow
to name a few at random
but if you want writers, plenty of others to choose from.
Thew MalcG? Would be a fearsome vessel, firing red-hot turnips.
When I sailed into Dublin on an Irish tall ship, we fired a potato cannon at a German tall ship that was in harbour.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Cochrane Duncan of Camperdown Forth Clyde Caledonia Edinburgh Glasgow
to name a few at random
but if you want writers, plenty of others to choose from.
Thew MalcG? Would be a fearsome vessel, firing red-hot turnips.
Not very fearsome, as it would be completely intellectually rudderless, always easily outmanoeuvred due to it's dull predictability and terrible to sail on as it is always full of shit
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
"Pour boiling water on a crust of bread; pour the water off and it is ready; season with salt and pepper. Serve in a breakfast cup and eat with a spoon"
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
"Pour boiling water on a crust of bread; pour the water off and it is ready; season with salt and pepper. Serve in a breakfast cup and eat with a spoon"
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
Do we have any Alabama experts on the board today?
I have one day here in the far north west bit. Tuscumbia/Muscle Shoals. By the mighty Tennessee River
I was gonna hike the river or some canyons.... but it's decided to rain. Heavily (the first day of bad weather after a week of pure sun - which returns tomorrow, huzzah)
Things To Do In Alabama When It Rains. Are there any? I thought of driving to Alabama's Most Depressing Town, say Selma, or Bessemer, to indulge in a day of Full on Feasting on American Declinism, but are they that bad? I want BAD. I want Mississippi BAD. Detroit BAD. Shuttered streets, empty factories, fentanyl addicts, desolate malls, maybe a rich Woke student shouting at poor white people about their privilege - in the rain.
Where can I get that?
Quick YouTube (there are channels dedicated to driving the "hood" of these kind of places), Bessemer looks pretty bad. Worst of those kind of places I have been, Gary, Indiana.
Gary, Indiana at one point was the murder capital of the US. You are right, FU, it is a horrible little town on the Southwest corner of Lake Michigan. So depressing. Stopped once on the way from Chicago to Warsaw, Indiana and my hosts were amazed I'd gotten out alive!!!
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Cochrane Duncan of Camperdown Forth Clyde Caledonia Edinburgh Glasgow
to name a few at random
but if you want writers, plenty of others to choose from.
Thew MalcG? Would be a fearsome vessel, firing red-hot turnips.
Not very fearsome, as it would be completely intellectually rudderless, always easily outmanoeuvred due to it's dull predictability and terrible to sail on as it is always full of shit
It would be cheap - running on turnip juice!
Caledonia and Edinburgh might not be optimal.
Hitler renamed the "Deutschland" to the "Lutzow" to guard against potential morale damage if it was sunk; it was. See Moskva .
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Do we have any Alabama experts on the board today?
I have one day here in the far north west bit. Tuscumbia/Muscle Shoals. By the mighty Tennessee River
I was gonna hike the river or some canyons.... but it's decided to rain. Heavily (the first day of bad weather after a week of pure sun - which returns tomorrow, huzzah)
Things To Do In Alabama When It Rains. Are there any? I thought of driving to Alabama's Most Depressing Town, say Selma, or Bessemer, to indulge in a day of Full on Feasting on American Declinism, but are they that bad? I want BAD. I want Mississippi BAD. Detroit BAD. Shuttered streets, empty factories, fentanyl addicts, desolate malls, maybe a rich Woke student shouting at poor white people about their privilege - in the rain.
Where can I get that?
Looks like the area immediately to the west of Montgomery. Wilcox (Camden) and Perry (Marion) counties are to two poorest counties in the state and are adjacent to each other. Per capita income is $12,573 and $13,433 compared to $66,060 for the US as a whole.
Must be some real poverty in the backcountry there ...
Can I prey on your wisdom once more?
At the end of this trip I have ten days spare when it is better for me to be out of the UK (long story, not as exciting as it sounds)
This road trip has been such fun I'm tempted to do another on my own dime. But where? I've seen the southwest deserts many times, so appealing as they are: no. I am sorely tempted by the Wyoming/Dakota area, all that natural spleandour, but the weather looks a bit cold, and I am enjoying the warmth. That also rules out the northern bits of New England like Maine which I have not seen
Which leaves more of the Deep South?
I am drawn to the Carolinas, nice mix of mountains, cities, poverty, wealth, coastline, history? Or is Georgia better? Virginia? Kentucky? Any thoughts? I want variety and history and a feel of remoteness on the backroads....
Drive up the Blue Ridge Parkway, starting in Ashville NC where you can check out the faded glory of the Biltmore for a touch of decadence. Beautiful scenery, good food, great local music. Then proceed north. The Daniel Boone forest is a good diversion to see the back country.
This is SSI's original home turf. Check with him too.
PS You might enjoy the Woodrow Wilson Museum in Staunton, which is only a short diversion from the Parkway.
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
It’s also ridiculous.
Unless you sell the house you can’t realise the gain. So the idea it undoes CoL is absurd.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
Indeed!
As\ for the Inspiration [sic] Class that I was complaining about, its naming has all the homogeneity of an explosion in a Jackson Pollock museum: were there really no other historic ships that could have been picked?
Venturer Bulldog Campbeltown Formidable Active
I do wonder what the matelots will think of serving in the Campbeltown in particular, since its RN prtedecessor was a shite ship - superannuated WW1 destroyer taken out of storage. Only famous for blowing itself up, at the "wrong" time too, as one of us commented the other day ...
Graun on PM in promises to root out culprit re Ms Rayner:
"Sky News has just broadcast the clip now. As he talks about the “terrors of the earth”, Johnson frowns, and looks serious, but hyperbole like this normally implies Johnson is exaggerating for comic effect. There is a risk that a quote intended to show he is taking this seriously could have the opposite effect.
As the Lib Dems have argued in the past, if Johnson is keen to root out people in the Conservative party who have expressed sexist views, other culprits are available."
From the distant perspective of Tuscumbia, Alabama, this looks like a load of kerpiffle about very little
It was a silly, stupid, faintly squalid story, but it not really malign Ms Rayner. It implied she is sexy, and it also implied Boris is such a pathetic lech he can be totally distracted by a middle aged woman with decent legs sitting ten feet away in a mildly short skirt. Boris was made to look worse in the article than Rayner
The Guardian reportage of the reportage was also odd. They talk about the Basic Instinct comparison, and they say "the movie is notorious for the scene where the suspect briefly reveals her vulva"
"Vulva"??
Where did they get that from? Is *vagina* now incorrect? Could this be a trans thingy thingy? Why not say genitals? Vee-jay-jay? Intimate parts? Loins? Groin?
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
Do we have any Alabama experts on the board today?
I have one day here in the far north west bit. Tuscumbia/Muscle Shoals. By the mighty Tennessee River
I was gonna hike the river or some canyons.... but it's decided to rain. Heavily (the first day of bad weather after a week of pure sun - which returns tomorrow, huzzah)
Things To Do In Alabama When It Rains. Are there any? I thought of driving to Alabama's Most Depressing Town, say Selma, or Bessemer, to indulge in a day of Full on Feasting on American Declinism, but are they that bad? I want BAD. I want Mississippi BAD. Detroit BAD. Shuttered streets, empty factories, fentanyl addicts, desolate malls, maybe a rich Woke student shouting at poor white people about their privilege - in the rain.
Where can I get that?
Looks like the area immediately to the west of Montgomery. Wilcox (Camden) and Perry (Marion) counties are to two poorest counties in the state and are adjacent to each other. Per capita income is $12,573 and $13,433 compared to $66,060 for the US as a whole.
Must be some real poverty in the backcountry there ...
Can I prey on your wisdom once more?
At the end of this trip I have ten days spare when it is better for me to be out of the UK (long story, not as exciting as it sounds)
This road trip has been such fun I'm tempted to do another on my own dime. But where? I've seen the southwest deserts many times, so appealing as they are: no. I am sorely tempted by the Wyoming/Dakota area, all that natural spleandour, but the weather looks a bit cold, and I am enjoying the warmth. That also rules out the northern bits of New England like Maine which I have not seen
Which leaves more of the Deep South?
I am drawn to the Carolinas, nice mix of mountains, cities, poverty, wealth, coastline, history? Or is Georgia better? Virginia? Kentucky? Any thoughts? I want variety and history and a feel of remoteness on the backroads....
I personally would recommend the Carolinas. You could do places like Asheville which very cool town with the Great Smoky Mountains via the Blue Ridge Parkway.
Or do the coast, Savannah, Charleston, and up.
Yes, others have recommended Asheville. Ta. That might be the answer!
Very arty town and will find plenty of great food.
How are you finding the price inflation in restaurants? Mrs U normally spends several months a year in US and everybody is telling her she will get a terrible shock when she heads back over for work shortly. Prices through the roof compared to pre-pandemic.
I haven't been paying my own way yet, or at least not much. I did notice that G&Ts in JFK were hideously pricey, but other than that I've been spared
However I have noted that accommodation in general is through the roof. Yes the £ is low at the moment, but it has been lower
But the days when you could get a decent roadside chain motel for a few bucks - nothing fancy, but safe clean and convenient - have gone. They are all north of $100, often a lot more (at least in the areas I am looking, ie not Gary, Indiana)
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
It’s also ridiculous.
Unless you sell the house you can’t realise the gain. So the idea it undoes CoL is absurd.
Depends where you live if you sell it.
If you live in London or the Home Counties and own a property and sell it and move to the North or Midlands it might!
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
Do we have any Alabama experts on the board today?
I have one day here in the far north west bit. Tuscumbia/Muscle Shoals. By the mighty Tennessee River
I was gonna hike the river or some canyons.... but it's decided to rain. Heavily (the first day of bad weather after a week of pure sun - which returns tomorrow, huzzah)
Things To Do In Alabama When It Rains. Are there any? I thought of driving to Alabama's Most Depressing Town, say Selma, or Bessemer, to indulge in a day of Full on Feasting on American Declinism, but are they that bad? I want BAD. I want Mississippi BAD. Detroit BAD. Shuttered streets, empty factories, fentanyl addicts, desolate malls, maybe a rich Woke student shouting at poor white people about their privilege - in the rain.
Where can I get that?
Looks like the area immediately to the west of Montgomery. Wilcox (Camden) and Perry (Marion) counties are to two poorest counties in the state and are adjacent to each other. Per capita income is $12,573 and $13,433 compared to $66,060 for the US as a whole.
Must be some real poverty in the backcountry there ...
Can I prey on your wisdom once more?
At the end of this trip I have ten days spare when it is better for me to be out of the UK (long story, not as exciting as it sounds)
This road trip has been such fun I'm tempted to do another on my own dime. But where? I've seen the southwest deserts many times, so appealing as they are: no. I am sorely tempted by the Wyoming/Dakota area, all that natural spleandour, but the weather looks a bit cold, and I am enjoying the warmth. That also rules out the northern bits of New England like Maine which I have not seen
Which leaves more of the Deep South?
I am drawn to the Carolinas, nice mix of mountains, cities, poverty, wealth, coastline, history? Or is Georgia better? Virginia? Kentucky? Any thoughts? I want variety and history and a feel of remoteness on the backroads....
I personally would recommend the Carolinas. You could do places like Asheville which very cool town with the Great Smoky Mountains via the Blue Ridge Parkway.
Or do the coast, Savannah, Charleston, and up.
Yes, others have recommended Asheville. Ta. That might be the answer!
Very arty town and will find plenty of great food.
How are you finding the price inflation in restaurants? Mrs U normally spends several months a year in US and everybody is telling her she will get a terrible shock when she heads back over for work shortly. Prices through the roof compared to pre-pandemic.
I haven't been paying my own way yet, or at least not much. I did notice that G&Ts in JFK were hideously pricey, but other than that I've been spared
However I have noted that accommodation in general is through the roof. Yes the £ is low at the moment, but it has been lower
But the days when you could get a decent roadside chain motel for a few bucks - nothing fancy, but safe clean and convenient - have gone. They are all north of $100, often a lot more (at least in the areas I am looking, ie not Gary, Indiana)
That was part of the charm of an American road trip, easy to find cheap motel that was decent, cheap diner for hearty grub (normally the state of the place is inverse proportion to quality of food, especially for BBQ, has to be total shack), and of course cheap gas to drive 100s of miles.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Cochrane Duncan of Camperdown Forth Clyde Caledonia Edinburgh Glasgow
to name a few at random
but if you want writers, plenty of others to choose from.
Thew MalcG? Would be a fearsome vessel, firing red-hot turnips.
Not very fearsome, as it would be completely intellectually rudderless, always easily outmanoeuvred due to it's dull predictability and terrible to sail on as it is always full of shit
It would be cheap - running on turnip juice!
Caledonia and Edinburgh might not be optimal.
Hitler renamed the "Deutschland" to the "Lutzow" to guard against potential morale damage if it was sunk; it was. See Moskva .
Didn't stop the RN naming them (and sometimes sinking in them: vide Edinburgh, the enlarged Town class cruiser in WW2).
That was part of the charm of an American road trip, easy to find cheap motel that was decent, cheap dinner for hearty grub, and of course cheap gas to drive 100s of miles.
Until you actually saw the motel room or ate the dinner.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Cochrane Duncan of Camperdown Forth Clyde Caledonia Edinburgh Glasgow
to name a few at random
but if you want writers, plenty of others to choose from.
Thew MalcG? Would be a fearsome vessel, firing red-hot turnips.
Not very fearsome, as it would be completely intellectually rudderless, always easily outmanoeuvred due to it's dull predictability and terrible to sail on as it is always full of shit
Unfair on Malc. He'd be like a heavily armoured monitor or dreadnought. Impressive. Stately. Slow.
Graun on PM in promises to root out culprit re Ms Rayner:
"Sky News has just broadcast the clip now. As he talks about the “terrors of the earth”, Johnson frowns, and looks serious, but hyperbole like this normally implies Johnson is exaggerating for comic effect. There is a risk that a quote intended to show he is taking this seriously could have the opposite effect.
As the Lib Dems have argued in the past, if Johnson is keen to root out people in the Conservative party who have expressed sexist views, other culprits are available."
From the distant perspective of Tuscumbia, Alabama, this looks like a load of kerpiffle about very little
It was a silly, stupid, faintly squalid story, but it not really malign Ms Rayner. It implied she is sexy, and it also implied Boris is such a pathetic lech he can be totally distracted by a middle aged woman with decent legs sitting ten feet away in a mildly short skirt. Boris was made to look worse in the article than Rayner
The Guardian reportage of the reportage was also odd. They talk about the Basic Instinct comparison, and they say "the movie is notorious for the scene where the suspect briefly reveals her vulva"
"Vulva"??
Where did they get that from? Is *vagina* now incorrect? Could this be a trans thingy thingy? Why not say genitals? Vee-jay-jay? Intimate parts? Loins? Groin?
But Sharon Stone does not "expose her vulva" in Basic Instinct
ie, she does not open her legs wide allowing Michael Douglas a long scrutiny of her "labia minora, labia majora, vagina, clitoris, and urethra", that would have been about ten minutes of expert gynaecology
What Douglas gets is a brief flash of pubic hair. Which is probably what the Guardian should have said, to avoid looking pompously ridic
Yes, but vulva is funnier, and more fun to say, than vagina.
EDIT: while I'm about it, the vulva is kind of the point. The vagina, by itself, is a bit clinical. It's all about the context. The context being the vulva.
And while I'm at it, I will also raise a hand in solidarity with all those who can be totally distracted by a middle aged woman with decent legs sitting ten feet away in a mildly short skirt.
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
Lochs aplenty.
True, although CalMac have utilised some of them already. Not a happy precedent given ferry-gate.
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
That was part of the charm of an American road trip, easy to find cheap motel that was decent, cheap dinner for hearty grub, and of course cheap gas to drive 100s of miles.
Until you actually saw the motel room or ate the dinner.
That's not true tho. Often the once-cheap motels are perfectly acceptable. Sometimes they are great. ie they will be in an amazing location just because that's the most convenient place to site the motel. I remember a chain motel in Moab Utah which had astonishing views of the red desert rocks, from every room, and it was about $40 a night
That doesn't seem do-able now
See here. Moab, Utah. Even the mediocre 2 star chain motels are $150 minimum
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
I read that as if it was the start of a rhyme. And was then disappointed that it wasn't.
Let's try again:
A old Hebridean that I once knew Heard of a boat named after K2 His outrage was clear When I told him his dear Ben Nevis had a boat named after it too
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
Graun on PM in promises to root out culprit re Ms Rayner:
"Sky News has just broadcast the clip now. As he talks about the “terrors of the earth”, Johnson frowns, and looks serious, but hyperbole like this normally implies Johnson is exaggerating for comic effect. There is a risk that a quote intended to show he is taking this seriously could have the opposite effect.
As the Lib Dems have argued in the past, if Johnson is keen to root out people in the Conservative party who have expressed sexist views, other culprits are available."
From the distant perspective of Tuscumbia, Alabama, this looks like a load of kerpiffle about very little
It was a silly, stupid, faintly squalid story, but it not really malign Ms Rayner. It implied she is sexy, and it also implied Boris is such a pathetic lech he can be totally distracted by a middle aged woman with decent legs sitting ten feet away in a mildly short skirt. Boris was made to look worse in the article than Rayner
The Guardian reportage of the reportage was also odd. They talk about the Basic Instinct comparison, and they say "the movie is notorious for the scene where the suspect briefly reveals her vulva"
"Vulva"??
Where did they get that from? Is *vagina* now incorrect? Could this be a trans thingy thingy? Why not say genitals? Vee-jay-jay? Intimate parts? Loins? Groin?
But Sharon Stone does not "expose her vulva" in Basic Instinct
ie, she does not open her legs wide allowing Michael Douglas a long scrutiny of her "labia minora, labia majora, vagina, clitoris, and urethra", that would have been about ten minutes of expert gynaecology
What Douglas gets is a brief flash of pubic hair. Which is probably what the Guardian should have said, to avoid looking pompously ridic
And there was me thinking "pompously ridic" was the Guardian's USP.
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
If they wanted them cancelled, they should have named them Duke of York and Duke of Sussex.
The sample are entirely from the target group for the policy
100% failure rate
Not so. I imagine people smuggling fees are paid up front, so it is entirely conceivable that PP's policy works, if at all, at point of origin in Asia or Africa where people will decide it is no longer worth finding the $5000 if it just gets you to Rwanda, whereasthose who have made it to Calais have invested all the money and 90% of the effort and think it's worth one final push.
That was part of the charm of an American road trip, easy to find cheap motel that was decent, cheap dinner for hearty grub, and of course cheap gas to drive 100s of miles.
Until you actually saw the motel room or ate the dinner.
That's not true tho. Often the once-cheap motels are perfectly acceptable. Sometimes they are great. ie they will be in an amazing location just because that's the most convenient place to site the motel. I remember a chain motel in Moab Utah which had astonishing views of the red desert rocks, from every room, and it was about $40 a night
That doesn't seem do-able now
See here. Moab, Utah. Even the mediocre 2 star chain motels are $150 minimum
As for the food, yes, that can be challenging, but less so here in the south where there is soul food everywhere
On top of inflation, I was reading about this the other day. Basically mom and pop motels are been driven out the market, where now the "system" has become individual entrepreneurs own / finance the physical location and a small number of chain brands service them for a significant management fee and cut of the revenue. The chain brand might not be on the front of the door, but they are the ones providing all the staff, the cleaning, etc etc etc. The big brands have been aggressively moving into this business model to ensure they don't have to worry about AirBnB.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
We have a capital ship named the Prince of Wales, a title that covers a not generally impressive series of blokes. Thankfully there's no longer an HMS Duke of York..
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
We are a parliamentary democracy not a direct democracy, as the 2016 to 2019 period proved it was only getting a Tory majority in December 2019 that delivered Brexit through Parliament into law in 2020.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Contradicts Sky recent piece filmed in Calais with real refugees declaring they are changing their plans as they do not want to be sent to Rwanda
My point was that those deterred are unlikely to ever find themselves in Calais.
Those interviewed were in Calais and made their fear of going to Rwanda very clear
If they were already in Calais and it deterred them they'd be looking to leave Calais at the time.
They likely wouldn't be in Calais anymore and wouldn't be heading there anymore.
Almost by definition, apart from when the policy is introduced, those who are deterred won't be found but that's because they're deterred.
That will go over Scott's head though.
Twitter is saying there have been no cross Channel boats in the last 4 days
No idea if this is true, or - if it is true - whether it is "Rwanda" doing it
If the plan succeeds then it will be a coup for Patel. The whole idea, of course, is DETERRENCE. You only have to send a few people to Rwanda and there's a good chance the entire trafficking network will collapse. The risk is too great. You spend $10k to get to England and you might end up in Rwanda??
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
I read that as if it was the start of a rhyme. And was then disappointed that it wasn't.
Let's try again:
A old Hebridean that I once knew Heard of a boat named after K2 His outrage was clear When I told him his dear Ben Nevis had a boat named after it too
IT did, a landing ship tank HMS Ben Nevis. I think however the Nevis name went to a Loch-class frigate - a much more nautical sort of vessel ...
The policy is designed to stop people crossing from Calais.
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
And when Australia took this approach, it stopped right away.....no of course not. Its only when it was clear they were actually going to do this and continue to do it for a very long time.
Now the British scheme seems a total mess, and the government flip flop on everything.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
I read that as if it was the start of a rhyme. And was then disappointed that it wasn't.
Let's try again:
A old Hebridean that I once knew Heard of a boat named after K2 His outrage was clear When I told him his dear Ben Nevis had a boat named after it too
IT did, a landing ship tank HMS Ben Nevis. I think however the Nevis name went to a Loch-class frigate - a much more nautical sort of vessel ...
The policy is designed to stop people crossing from Calais.
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
Nor is this:
I imagine people smuggling fees are paid up front, so it is entirely conceivable that PP's policy works, if at all, at point of origin in Asia or Africa where people will decide it is no longer worth finding the $5000 if it just gets you to Rwanda, whereas those who have made it to Calais have invested all the money and 90% of the effort and think it's worth one final push.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
It really is ridiculous that some just cannot let go and realise Brexit has happened, rather than encourage the UK and EU to work together for our mutual benefit rather than sow conspiracy theories
It also has to be said the remain camp had all the cards and just lost a campaign they should have won, not helped by Obama telling us to go to the back of the queue
As for the wallpaper there are some very nice quality emulsion paints on the market
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
If they wanted them cancelled, they should have named them Duke of York and Duke of Sussex.
Are they even slightly deployable? They just seem like floating liabilities. (Internationally made clear by the BBC)
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Contradicts Sky recent piece filmed in Calais with real refugees declaring they are changing their plans as they do not want to be sent to Rwanda
My point was that those deterred are unlikely to ever find themselves in Calais.
Those interviewed were in Calais and made their fear of going to Rwanda very clear
If they were already in Calais and it deterred them they'd be looking to leave Calais at the time.
They likely wouldn't be in Calais anymore and wouldn't be heading there anymore.
Almost by definition, apart from when the policy is introduced, those who are deterred won't be found but that's because they're deterred.
That will go over Scott's head though.
Twitter is saying there have been no cross Channel boats in the last 4 days
No idea if this is true, or - if it is true - whether it is "Rwanda" doing it
If the plan succeeds then it will be a coup for Patel. The whole idea, of course, is DETERRENCE. You only have to send a few people to Rwanda and there's a good chance the entire trafficking network will collapse. The risk is too great. You spend $10k to get to England and you might end up in Rwanda??
That is correct. The aim is to deter people from making the crossing. The other aspect of this as well is that it makes the smugglers’ model riskier to migrants / less attractive. You can’t offer as a smuggler “even if you get intercepted, you get another chance” if a lot of the men attempting the journey think “I’ll end up in Rwanda.” I suspect that will be the ultimate success of the policy.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
We are a parliamentary democracy not a direct democracy, as the 2016 to 2019 period proved it was only getting a Tory majority in December 2019 that delivered Brexit through Parliament into law in 2020.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
You say that now...evidence item 1 m'lud, the prorogation of Parliament.
All the Brexiteers were crying foul. "The sovereign 2017 Parliament is undemocratic because it will not enact the will of the people, who voted (in a non- binding referendum) to leave the EU".
Now I am not blaming you HY, you are, like myself a good honest yeoman serf who voted Remain.
That was part of the charm of an American road trip, easy to find cheap motel that was decent, cheap dinner for hearty grub, and of course cheap gas to drive 100s of miles.
Until you actually saw the motel room or ate the dinner.
That's not true tho. Often the once-cheap motels are perfectly acceptable. Sometimes they are great. ie they will be in an amazing location just because that's the most convenient place to site the motel. I remember a chain motel in Moab Utah which had astonishing views of the red desert rocks, from every room, and it was about $40 a night
That doesn't seem do-able now
See here. Moab, Utah. Even the mediocre 2 star chain motels are $150 minimum
As for the food, yes, that can be challenging, but less so here in the south where there is soul food everywhere
On top of inflation, I was reading about this the other day. Basically mom and pop motels are been driven out the market, where now the "system" has become individual entrepreneurs own / finance the physical location and a small number of chain brands service them for a significant management fee and cut of the revenue. The chain brand might not be on the front of the door, but they are the ones providing all the staff, the cleaning, etc etc etc. The big brands have been aggressively moving into this business model to ensure they don't have to worry about AirBnB.
It's a damn shame, as it has taken a lot of fun out of the Great American Roadtrip
Time was, you didn't really have to worry about accommodation. You drove the interstate and you pulled over when exhausted, the place would be $50 a night, it would have ice and a fridge, a coffee machine, a vending machine, it would be clean and secure, saddle up next morning and on you go
If you have to WORRY about the next stop - will it be $200? - then that makes everything three times less appealing
The prices for some of these chain motels now are insane. $250 a night for something bleak on a strip mall near Nashville? You can get 4-5 star hotels in beautiful parts of Europe for that
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
It's not even positive for very many of us. Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more. From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
Of all the migrants and asylum seekers I spoke to in Calais and Dunkirk, none of them are deterred by Priti Patel’s policy of sending illegal arrivals to Rwanda
Contradicts Sky recent piece filmed in Calais with real refugees declaring they are changing their plans as they do not want to be sent to Rwanda
My point was that those deterred are unlikely to ever find themselves in Calais.
Those interviewed were in Calais and made their fear of going to Rwanda very clear
If they were already in Calais and it deterred them they'd be looking to leave Calais at the time.
They likely wouldn't be in Calais anymore and wouldn't be heading there anymore.
Almost by definition, apart from when the policy is introduced, those who are deterred won't be found but that's because they're deterred.
That will go over Scott's head though.
Twitter is saying there have been no cross Channel boats in the last 4 days
No idea if this is true, or - if it is true - whether it is "Rwanda" doing it
If the plan succeeds then it will be a coup for Patel. The whole idea, of course, is DETERRENCE. You only have to send a few people to Rwanda and there's a good chance the entire trafficking network will collapse. The risk is too great. You spend $10k to get to England and you might end up in Rwanda??
While I understand the idea, four days of data isn't going to be enough to confirm. The Rwanda deportation will actually have to happen to a few migrants, otherwise the rest will quickly get canny to the empty threat.
We'll know after a few years. Politically, a huge evidence-free win for Patel.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
If they wanted them cancelled, they should have named them Duke of York and Duke of Sussex.
Are they even slightly deployable? They just seem like floating liabilities. (Internationally made clear by the BBC)
The Duke of York isn't
The Duke of Sussex seems deployable, but is currently not in commission
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
The policy is designed to stop people crossing from Calais.
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
And when Australia took this approach, it stopped right away.....no of course not. Its only when it was clear they were actually going to do this and continue to do it for a very long time.
Now the British scheme seems a total mess, and the government flip flop on everything.
Is it a mess?
The Spectator @spectator · 2h New on the Spectator data hub: no migrants have been detected crossing the Channel in small boats for the past five days.
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
It's not even positive for very many of us. Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more. From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
Also, in re HYUFD's point saying great, Londoners can sell up and move to the country, where does that leave the folk actually living in Cornwall, Richmondshire, etc., with the local property market driven up?
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
It really is ridiculous that some just cannot let go and realise Brexit has happened, rather than encourage the UK and EU to work together for our mutual benefit rather than sow conspiracy theories
It also has to be said the remain camp had all the cards and just lost a campaign they should have won, not helped by Obama telling us to go to the back of the queue
As for the wallpaper there are some very nice quality emulsion paints on the market
No, no!
Brexit is done, but if it has been done on the illicit whim of Vladimir Putin and not on the express wish of the British people this wrong must be righted, and the only fair way is a rerun of the original vote.
I am sure that Brexit has been such a success that nothing will change, but foreign foes can't be seen to subvert our democracy.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
Even if there was overwhelming evidence of Russian interference how do you re-run the EU ref when the UK has already left . The problem with any case is how do you quantify the impact of interference and prove that it moved enough votes .
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
Much too late, surely.
There has been much discussion away from the Uk about certain key figures who financially backed the various Leave campaigns. To say the least there is a case to answer. However I also accept that we may not want to air this dirty laundry, at least until Putin is gone.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
If they wanted them cancelled, they should have named them Duke of York and Duke of Sussex.
Are they even slightly deployable? They just seem like floating liabilities. (Internationally made clear by the BBC)
The Duke of York isn't
The Duke of Sussex seems deployable, but is currently not in commission
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
As you're on, what should the ships in the prospective Indy Scottish fleet be called? Obviously the "Rabbie Burns". But, who else?
Sir Walter was a unionist as was Buchan. Not sure about RLS. Maybe the "Irvine Welsh" and the "Hugh MacDiarmid"?
Name the ships after the mountains - Ben Nevis, Ben MacDui, Braeriach, etc.
A Hebridean of my acquaintance, when told of a boat named after a mountain, was semi-outraged. Not, apparently, the thing to do.
I read that as if it was the start of a rhyme. And was then disappointed that it wasn't.
Let's try again:
A old Hebridean that I once knew Heard of a boat named after K2 His outrage was clear When I told him his dear Ben Nevis had a boat named after it too
IT did, a landing ship tank HMS Ben Nevis. I think however the Nevis name went to a Loch-class frigate - a much more nautical sort of vessel ...
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
It's not even positive for very many of us. Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more. From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
Also, in re HYUFD's point saying great, Londoners can sell up and move to the country, where does that leave the folk actually living in Cornwall, Richmondshire, etc., with the local property market driven up?
Unless most of London and the Home counties move up North or to Cornwall little different.
That of course will never happen, even if more people are mainly WFH and some have moved out of London for more space
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
We are a parliamentary democracy not a direct democracy, as the 2016 to 2019 period proved it was only getting a Tory majority in December 2019 that delivered Brexit through Parliament into law in 2020.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
You say that now...evidence item 1 m'lud, the prorogation of Parliament.
All the Brexiteers were crying foul. "The sovereign 2017 Parliament is undemocratic because it will not enact the will of the people, who voted (in a non- binding referendum) to leave the EU".
Now I am not blaming you HY, you are, like myself a good honest yeoman serf who voted Remain.
There was never any doubt that the 2017 parliament had the legal right to block implementation of the referendum result.
But just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it right to do it.
For example, the Supreme Court had the right to rule on prorogation starting from its conclusion and working backwards to find some way to claim to justify it.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
We are a parliamentary democracy not a direct democracy, as the 2016 to 2019 period proved it was only getting a Tory majority in December 2019 that delivered Brexit through Parliament into law in 2020.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
You say that now...evidence item 1 m'lud, the prorogation of Parliament.
All the Brexiteers were crying foul. "The sovereign 2017 Parliament is undemocratic because it will not enact the will of the people, who voted (in a non- binding referendum) to leave the EU".
Now I am not blaming you HY, you are, like myself a good honest yeoman serf who voted Remain.
Yes but the prorogation of Parliament made sod all difference. Parliament still refused to vote for Brexit and the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional anyway.
Only the Tory majority in December 2019 delivered Brexit as I said
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
It's not even positive for very many of us. Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more. From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
Also, in re HYUFD's point saying great, Londoners can sell up and move to the country, where does that leave the folk actually living in Cornwall, Richmondshire, etc., with the local property market driven up?
Unless most of London and the Home counties move up North or to Cornwall little different.
That of course will never happen, even if more people are mainly WFH and some have moved out of London for more space
You don't need many people to move to displace the locals, when the ability to buy second homes conferred by high London prices is added, come to think of it.
Mind, the entire Irish Navy has a complement of just over 1,000 officers and ratings. One of the benefits of being contiguous to a nuclear-armed G7 NATO member.
The latest RN warship class naming scheme is completely convoluted - modern marketing colliding with RN tradition and history and the latter rather sinking ...
The carriers should have been Ark Royal and Invincible but the QE and PoW names were artfully selected to make cancellation politically difficult.
If they wanted them cancelled, they should have named them Duke of York and Duke of Sussex.
Are they even slightly deployable? They just seem like floating liabilities. (Internationally made clear by the BBC)
The Duke of York isn't
The Duke of Sussex seems deployable, but is currently not in commission
Thank God for Cambridge!
Mind you, without of the Duke of Edinburgh, we have a major loss of strategic capability...
The policy is designed to stop people crossing from Calais.
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
And when Australia took this approach, it stopped right away.....no of course not. Its only when it was clear they were actually going to do this and continue to do it for a very long time.
Now the British scheme seems a total mess, and the government flip flop on everything.
Is it a mess?
The Spectator @spectator · 2h New on the Spectator data hub: no migrants have been detected crossing the Channel in small boats for the past five days.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
Much too late, surely.
Yeah it is, we’re out, it’s done.
But it wouldn’t look good, to say the least. Especially if the government knew and simply ignored it for, well, politics. For their backbenchers. For whatever reason. Not now Russia’s the baddie, unequivocally.
I don’t think it’ll get that far. It’s just interesting to ponder the hypothetical fallout.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
We are a parliamentary democracy not a direct democracy, as the 2016 to 2019 period proved it was only getting a Tory majority in December 2019 that delivered Brexit through Parliament into law in 2020.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
You say that now...evidence item 1 m'lud, the prorogation of Parliament.
All the Brexiteers were crying foul. "The sovereign 2017 Parliament is undemocratic because it will not enact the will of the people, who voted (in a non- binding referendum) to leave the EU".
Now I am not blaming you HY, you are, like myself a good honest yeoman serf who voted Remain.
Yes but the prorogation of Parliament made sod all difference. Parliament still refused to vote for Brexit and the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional anyway.
Only the Tory majority in December 2019 delivered Brexit as I said
The prorogation was still grossly illegal and undemocratic.
"Your Honour, I'm not going to plead guilty to this mugging, I only scored 5p and a Curly-Wurly."
The policy is designed to stop people crossing from Calais.
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
And when Australia took this approach, it stopped right away.....no of course not. Its only when it was clear they were actually going to do this and continue to do it for a very long time.
Now the British scheme seems a total mess, and the government flip flop on everything.
Is it a mess?
The Spectator @spectator · 2h New on the Spectator data hub: no migrants have been detected crossing the Channel in small boats for the past five days.
It explains so much of the mess we are in. If you are a homeowner, life has challenges but is still fundamentally fairly peachy. If you aren't, well- good luck.
And any fiddling with tax rates, fuel bills or anything else is tiny in comparison.
Yup because homeowners have been given the homes for free years ago without any savings or sacrifices on their part and anyone who says otherwise is just Tory scum. There you go. Happy now.
I didn't mention Tory Scum, and actually, I'm one of the lucky ones. I got on the housebuying train just before it went stratospheric. In a way that a twenty year younger version of me couldn't have.
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
It's not even positive for very many of us. Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more. From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
Also, in re HYUFD's point saying great, Londoners can sell up and move to the country, where does that leave the folk actually living in Cornwall, Richmondshire, etc., with the local property market driven up?
Yes: I will concede that high house prices are good news for those who own many houses or who want o move to a cheaper house. But that is a tiny, tiny proportion of the electorate. Most of us want to own exactly one house and for that house to be the best house it can affordably be. Most people are also quite keen on the friends and relatives being able to afford a nice house, and, more abstractly, on the number of people who cannot afford a house at all, or who are spending most of their income on accommodation costs, to be very low. High house prices are inimical to this.
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
If the vote had been compromised by Russia, the only fair course of action would be to rerun the EU Referendum, we are not a Russian autocracy, we are a democracy after all.
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
It really is ridiculous that some just cannot let go and realise Brexit has happened, rather than encourage the UK and EU to work together for our mutual benefit rather than sow conspiracy theories
It also has to be said the remain camp had all the cards and just lost a campaign they should have won, not helped by Obama telling us to go to the back of the queue
As for the wallpaper there are some very nice quality emulsion paints on the market
No, no!
Brexit is done, but if it has been done on the illicit whim of Vladimir Putin and not on the express wish of the British people this wrong must be righted, and the only fair way is a rerun of the original vote.
I am sure that Brexit has been such a success that nothing will change, but foreign foes can't be seen to subvert our democracy.
I understand many have been very upset by Brexit, but the only way to improve it is for both sides to grow up and work together to improve the relationship
Never ending leavers and remainers fighting yesterday's battles is plain tedious
Am I trolling here? Perhaps just a little bit, so I apologise. But these crazy cats are trying to take this to court. I’m not sure whether I admire them or think they’re batshit crazy…
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
Much too late, surely.
There has been much discussion away from the Uk about certain key figures who financially backed the various Leave campaigns. To say the least there is a case to answer. However I also accept that we may not want to air this dirty laundry, at least until Putin is gone.
And where would you stop?
If Le Pen had got in, reverse that too? Reverse all German foreign policy for the last few decades? Trump? A second indy-ref?
These have also been, or will be, influenced by Russian interference.
Actually, looking at the possible deal with India, would it not be advisable to make their way there and get on one of the new methods by which Indian citizens are to be enabled to come here.
Do we have any Alabama experts on the board today?
I have one day here in the far north west bit. Tuscumbia/Muscle Shoals. By the mighty Tennessee River
I was gonna hike the river or some canyons.... but it's decided to rain. Heavily (the first day of bad weather after a week of pure sun - which returns tomorrow, huzzah)
Things To Do In Alabama When It Rains. Are there any? I thought of driving to Alabama's Most Depressing Town, say Selma, or Bessemer, to indulge in a day of Full on Feasting on American Declinism, but are they that bad? I want BAD. I want Mississippi BAD. Detroit BAD. Shuttered streets, empty factories, fentanyl addicts, desolate malls, maybe a rich Woke student shouting at poor white people about their privilege - in the rain.
Where can I get that?
Quick YouTube (there are channels dedicated to driving the "hood" of these kind of places), Bessemer looks pretty bad. Worst of those kind of places I have been, Gary, Indiana.
Gary, Indiana at one point was the murder capital of the US. You are right, FU, it is a horrible little town on the Southwest corner of Lake Michigan. So depressing. Stopped once on the way from Chicago to Warsaw, Indiana and my hosts were amazed I'd gotten out alive!!!
I know Indiana quite well from the David Soul song Silver Lady. The wind and rain cuts through you, there, and leaves you chilled to the bone. Bleak, as you say. Best to play the song rather than visit. This applies to quite a few places in America, come to think of it. Galverston is another good example. Just play the song and leave it at that.
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Hitler renamed the "Deutschland" to the "Lutzow" to guard against potential morale damage if it was sunk; it was. See Moskva
I just need the £ to stop collapsing, now
Unless you sell the house you can’t realise the gain. So the idea it undoes CoL is absurd.
100% failure rate
As\ for the Inspiration [sic] Class that I was complaining about, its naming has all the homogeneity of an explosion in a Jackson Pollock museum: were there really no other historic ships that could have been picked?
Venturer
Bulldog
Campbeltown
Formidable
Active
I do wonder what the matelots will think of serving in the Campbeltown in particular, since its RN prtedecessor was a shite ship - superannuated WW1 destroyer taken out of storage. Only famous for blowing itself up, at the "wrong" time too, as one of us commented the other day ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Heartsease_(K15)
However I have noted that accommodation in general is through the roof. Yes the £ is low at the moment, but it has been lower
But the days when you could get a decent roadside chain motel for a few bucks - nothing fancy, but safe clean and convenient - have gone. They are all north of $100, often a lot more (at least in the areas I am looking, ie not Gary, Indiana)
OGH and Vanilla bans people for using that word.
If you live in London or the Home Counties and own a property and sell it and move to the North or Midlands it might!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pansy
And then sunk by a Fairey Swordfish biplane.
EDIT: while I'm about it, the vulva is kind of the point. The vagina, by itself, is a bit clinical. It's all about the context. The context being the vulva.
And while I'm at it, I will also raise a hand in solidarity with all those who can be totally distracted by a middle aged woman with decent legs sitting ten feet away in a mildly short skirt.
More detail here - https://www.eucitizenship.org/news/article/15
I know it probably won’t happen, but what if it did, what if they could get a court to declare that the referendum wasn’t a free and fair election cos of Russian interference? God that would unleash a shitstorm.
I mean, I’m as Remainy as they come but Jesus, I’m not sure I’d want to go through something like that…
It seemed to have had an 'interesting' life; she was apparently sunk by the Indonesian Air Force...
That doesn't seem do-able now
See here. Moab, Utah. Even the mediocre 2 star chain motels are $150 minimum
https://tinyurl.com/yx9ko8mb
As for the food, yes, that can be challenging, but less so here in the south where there is soul food everywhere
Let's try again:
A old Hebridean that I once knew
Heard of a boat named after K2
His outrage was clear
When I told him his dear
Ben Nevis had a boat named after it too
Anyway, on topic, if Johnson is deposed, what happens to the wallpaper?
They likely wouldn't be in Calais anymore and wouldn't be heading there anymore.
Almost by definition, apart from when the policy is introduced, those who are deterred won't be found but that's because they're deterred.
That will go over Scott's head though.
The referendum result itself changed nothing legally
No idea if this is true, or - if it is true - whether it is "Rwanda" doing it
If the plan succeeds then it will be a coup for Patel. The whole idea, of course, is DETERRENCE. You only have to send a few people to Rwanda and there's a good chance the entire trafficking network will collapse. The risk is too great. You spend $10k to get to England and you might end up in Rwanda??
But the effect of house prices going up by 20k in three months is positive for some, negative for others, and it does dwarf the other figures we study in minute detail.
And the bottom line is that £20 000 in three months... that more than most doctors, headteachers, solicitors have made. For a box of bricks that you live in. I'm not blaming those of use who benefit from it, but something's not right somewhere, surely?
Calais is full of people wanting to cross.
They have not been deterred.
This is not complicated
But you are a simpleton.
Now the British scheme seems a total mess, and the government flip flop on everything.
I imagine people smuggling fees are paid up front, so it is entirely conceivable that PP's policy works, if at all, at point of origin in Asia or Africa where people will decide it is no longer worth finding the $5000 if it just gets you to Rwanda, whereas those who have made it to Calais have invested all the money and 90% of the effort and think it's worth one final push.
It also has to be said the remain camp had all the cards and just lost a campaign they should have won, not helped by Obama telling us to go to the back of the queue
As for the wallpaper there are some very nice quality emulsion paints on the market
All the Brexiteers were crying foul. "The sovereign 2017 Parliament is undemocratic because it will not enact the will of the people, who voted (in a non- binding referendum) to leave the EU".
Now I am not blaming you HY, you are, like myself a good honest yeoman serf who voted Remain.
Time was, you didn't really have to worry about accommodation. You drove the interstate and you pulled over when exhausted, the place would be $50 a night, it would have ice and a fridge, a coffee machine, a vending machine, it would be clean and secure, saddle up next morning and on you go
If you have to WORRY about the next stop - will it be $200? - then that makes everything three times less appealing
The prices for some of these chain motels now are insane. $250 a night for something bleak on a strip mall near Nashville? You can get 4-5 star hotels in beautiful parts of Europe for that
Sure, my house is worth more money. But if I want to move, the house I want to move to will cost even more.
From a personal point of view, I would be far happier if house prices halved - on paper, I would be less wealthy, but the chance of my daughters being able to afford to own a house when they grow up would be much increased.
We'll know after a few years. Politically, a huge evidence-free win for Patel.
https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1518591504499023873?s=21&t=d066hOpF0SoTfz_MBKTEvQ
The Duke of Sussex seems deployable, but is currently not in commission
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Priti Patel for PM!
It's the same reason no one can really tell if the government's Covid response was good/middling/bad.
Brexit is done, but if it has been done on the illicit whim of Vladimir Putin and not on the express wish of the British people this wrong must be righted, and the only fair way is a rerun of the original vote.
I am sure that Brexit has been such a success that nothing will change, but foreign foes can't be seen to subvert our democracy.
That of course will never happen, even if more people are mainly WFH and some have moved out of London for more space
But just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it right to do it.
For example, the Supreme Court had the right to rule on prorogation starting from its conclusion and working backwards to find some way to claim to justify it.
Only the Tory majority in December 2019 delivered Brexit as I said
But it wouldn’t look good, to say the least. Especially if the government knew and simply ignored it for, well, politics. For their backbenchers. For whatever reason. Not now Russia’s the baddie, unequivocally.
I don’t think it’ll get that far. It’s just interesting to ponder the hypothetical fallout.
"Your Honour, I'm not going to plead guilty to this mugging, I only scored 5p and a Curly-Wurly."
Who saw that a few months ago?
Never ending leavers and remainers fighting yesterday's battles is plain tedious
If Le Pen had got in, reverse that too? Reverse all German foreign policy for the last few decades? Trump? A second indy-ref?
These have also been, or will be, influenced by Russian interference.