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  • Charles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Opposition parties seek inquiry into Johnson’s Spanish holiday https://www.ft.com/content/74ab3606-0f70-4989-a4f1-2f4c960104fe

    And that’s exactly the problem

    There is nothing for an inquiry to consider. He has disclosed the holiday.

    There is possibly a question - how do you put a price on a stay in a private house

    But if the opposition uses the process to score political points it undermines the process
    Disingenuous: he has disclosed it on the ministerial register, but not on the MPs register. The latter requires disclosing the cost.
    How do you cost a stay in a private villa? You find the cost of a comparable rentable property. It's not difficult, it's been part of the prices for a long time.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,134
    edited November 2021

    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fucking hell, next he'll admit to not knowing 'Paki' is an offensive term.

    Yorkshire head coach Andrew Gale is being investigated by bosses over anti-Semitic social media messages, it has emerged amid the club's deepening racism crisis.

    In a now deleted post on Twitter from November 2010, the then club captain told Paul Dews, who was head of media at Leeds United Football Club at the time, to "Button it y--!"

    Gale told the Jewish News website, which first reported the tweet, that he was “completely unaware” of the offensive nature of the term at the time he sent the message.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/05/yorkshire-cricket-racism-storm-chairman-quits-hits-ecb-latest/

    Good grief.

    I am starting to think Yorkshire CCC won't survive this.
    I think they need to appoint me Chief Executive and Executive Chairman of YCCC and I'll fix all the problems.

    A strong Yorkshire means a strong England.
    I have always found Yorkshire kind of annoying, for a few reasons:

    1. Claiming to be in the North, even though parts of it are closer to London than to the Scottish border
    2. Yorkshire Tea, which self-evidently isn't produced in Yorkshire
    3. Being referred to by its residents as God's own Country, which seems rather boastful and potentially blasphemous, especially if you've ever spent time in some of the ropier bits
    4. Geoffrey Boycott.
    Boycott, I'll concede. You can have YCCC too.

    As a southerner naturalised in Yorkshire I answer the others as follows:
    1. Anything north of Watford Gap is north. Plus Yorkshire folk say bath, not barth.
    2. Yorkshire tea is indeed produced in Yorkshire. The raw ingredients come from elsewhere. Next you'll be claiming that BP petrol isn't really British! :open_mouth:
    3. God's Own Country? Well Jacob Rees-Mogg says it isn't.[1] Case closed?

    [1] https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-yorkshire-is-not-gods-own-country-somerset-is-3146769
    On the basis that JRM is always wrong I will concede 3. On 1. you are basically denying the existence of the Midlands, where I think most of Yorkshire is located. On 2., I think the petrol refining process is a more substantive procedure than mixing up tea leaves from several countries and putting them in a perforated bag. Yorkshire tea is not from Yorkshire (it is from India, Sri Lanka and Kenya).
    Ah, compromise :smile: I'm happy to negotiate.

    On 1. There was a lad at university (in the midlands) from Nottingham who denied he was northern. We didn't believe him, either. I have slightly more sympathy with his position now. Happy to re-set the dividing line to the Humber and disown South Yorkshire (happy, on current events, to lose West Yorkshire, too).
    On 2. Rename the product to 'Yorkshire Teabags'? At least until it turns out the bagging is done in High Wycombe...
    Yorkshire is North of the Humber. Case closed
    So really, it's just southern Northumbria?
    Yes.

    Broadly speaking the South is Wessex plus bits of Mercia, East Anglia is East Anglia, the North is Northumbria and the Midlands the rest of Mercia
    Sussex and Essex are definitely not Wessex, nor was Middlesex when it existed, and nor is Kent for that matter. The south is much more than Wessex plus bits of Mercia.
    This sounds like Schleswig-Holstein debated between a person from Alsace and one from Lorraine.

    I'm staying oot.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Charles said:

    Selebian said:

    Selebian said:

    ydoethur said:

    Fucking hell, next he'll admit to not knowing 'Paki' is an offensive term.

    Yorkshire head coach Andrew Gale is being investigated by bosses over anti-Semitic social media messages, it has emerged amid the club's deepening racism crisis.

    In a now deleted post on Twitter from November 2010, the then club captain told Paul Dews, who was head of media at Leeds United Football Club at the time, to "Button it y--!"

    Gale told the Jewish News website, which first reported the tweet, that he was “completely unaware” of the offensive nature of the term at the time he sent the message.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/05/yorkshire-cricket-racism-storm-chairman-quits-hits-ecb-latest/

    Good grief.

    I am starting to think Yorkshire CCC won't survive this.
    I think they need to appoint me Chief Executive and Executive Chairman of YCCC and I'll fix all the problems.

    A strong Yorkshire means a strong England.
    I have always found Yorkshire kind of annoying, for a few reasons:

    1. Claiming to be in the North, even though parts of it are closer to London than to the Scottish border
    2. Yorkshire Tea, which self-evidently isn't produced in Yorkshire
    3. Being referred to by its residents as God's own Country, which seems rather boastful and potentially blasphemous, especially if you've ever spent time in some of the ropier bits
    4. Geoffrey Boycott.
    Boycott, I'll concede. You can have YCCC too.

    As a southerner naturalised in Yorkshire I answer the others as follows:
    1. Anything north of Watford Gap is north. Plus Yorkshire folk say bath, not barth.
    2. Yorkshire tea is indeed produced in Yorkshire. The raw ingredients come from elsewhere. Next you'll be claiming that BP petrol isn't really British! :open_mouth:
    3. God's Own Country? Well Jacob Rees-Mogg says it isn't.[1] Case closed?

    [1] https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-yorkshire-is-not-gods-own-country-somerset-is-3146769
    On the basis that JRM is always wrong I will concede 3. On 1. you are basically denying the existence of the Midlands, where I think most of Yorkshire is located. On 2., I think the petrol refining process is a more substantive procedure than mixing up tea leaves from several countries and putting them in a perforated bag. Yorkshire tea is not from Yorkshire (it is from India, Sri Lanka and Kenya).
    Ah, compromise :smile: I'm happy to negotiate.

    On 1. There was a lad at university (in the midlands) from Nottingham who denied he was northern. We didn't believe him, either. I have slightly more sympathy with his position now. Happy to re-set the dividing line to the Humber and disown South Yorkshire (happy, on current events, to lose West Yorkshire, too).
    On 2. Rename the product to 'Yorkshire Teabags'? At least until it turns out the bagging is done in High Wycombe...
    Yorkshire is North of the Humber. Case closed
    So really, it's just southern Northumbria?
    Yes.

    Broadly speaking the South is Wessex plus bits of Mercia, East Anglia is East Anglia, the North is Northumbria and the Midlands the rest of Mercia
    Sussex and Essex are definitely not Wessex, nor was Middlesex when it existed, and nor is Kent for that matter. The south is much more than Wessex plus bits of Mercia.
    I was thinking Alfred’s kingdom of Wessex

  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    stodge said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59179219

    I thought this a very fair and reasonable assessment of our current situation with the coronavirus. The case numbers are falling and let's hope it continues but the priority is and remains vaccination and the rising emphasis on getting the booster vaccination to vulnerable older people is to be welcomed.

    The question is the extent to which individually and collectively we can and should be adhering to the 6-month between vaccinations guideline. There are clearly some who have had a booster vaccination in advance of the 6 month period - fair enough. I presume the risk in waiting is one's immunity declines with time.

    Given the encouraging results of offering Pfizer to those who have had two previous Astrazeneca vaccinations, I wonder if we will be able to go that bit further again before vaccination four.

    The second part of this is the undercurrent of criticism of the media coverage and how that feeds people's perceptions (that word, especially for @Anabobazina's benefit). Should the fall in cases be being screamed from the rooftops - the argument is rises in cases are so why shouldn't falls and that's a hard one to gainsay in all honesty.

    Like those who complain the media is always critical of the Government and the Prime Minister, the obvious response is would you prefer a media which is unstintingly supportive of the Government and never broadcasts any criticism - there's plenty of countries where that is the case? Perhaps the price of the privilege of office is to suffer the brickbats.

    Completely wrong, yet again, as this is not about complaining about the media criticising the government. It’s the wilful omission, or downright contradiction, of the DATA that is feeding the perception you are so obsessed with. It’s misinformation, pure and simple. That you seek to airily downplay it is beyond annoying.
  • BigRich said:

    Vaccination news: got a message telling me I could book my booster shot today. Managed to get a slot tomorrow, though they were fairly heavily booked up.

    Also we had nurses in school today finishing off vaccinating Y7-11: all who want one have now (I think) been vaccinated (one dose only, so far at least).

    Just cruise, what proportion of the Y7-11s at your school had the Jab?
    I”d guess 90%+, but it is just a guess.
  • theakestheakes Posts: 930
    Hear the Lib Dems are starting their by election campaign over in North Shropshite this weekend!
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