Officials fear the dispute could spiral into trade war if checks are stepped up at Calais
One diplomat: “I’m worried that London may not be taking seriously the French threat to choke the flow of freight and let empty shelves put pressure on the British”
I have not had a delay beyond their delivery dates in the years I have used them
In fact talking to family and friends it looks like a lot more Christmas buying is going to Amazon and online and actually starting now to get Christmas done asap
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
Palace Intrigue getting a lot of PB Airspace tonight; When we all know that Prince Charles will be King Something Else in a few years.
I'm more intrigued by Biden today.
If I was meeting God's representative on earth - I think a kneel more than a simple handshake might be more appropriate??
What about all the other faiths???
Yes - I wasn't being clear enough. Biden seems to think a simple hand shake is required when he meets who he thinks is God's representative on earth.
Joe Biden is a Catholic, but he is also President of the United States.
And if you are expecting a sitting POTUS to kiss ANYONE's ring (except for #45 with his mentor Putin, he certainly kissed his "ring" often enough) you are nuttier than even I think you are.
Nope.
If I met who I thought to be was God's representative on earth I would kneel.
If I met anyone who genuinely believed he was God’s representative on earth I think I would probably laugh. I mean, being polite, I would try not to, but seriously.
Catholicism is the most believed religion in the world.
Most attended.. not necessarily believed.eg. French Churches aiui are usually empty save for weddings and baptisms and funerals.
Whatever - I just think it's a bit silly of a religion to believe that there is such a thing as God's represenstative on earth - But then I am Church of Scotland
I agree..
My vicar, who happens to be a lady, is a splendid person who represents what a vicar should be/do. She, nor the person at Canterbury is God's representative on earth.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
Can you name a time when Macron's behaviour has been edifying?
He won because he was less awful than Le Pen.
Given his government's recent rhetoric on Islam, we can't even say that for certain any more.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Whatever the faults of the current lot in Westminster, I simply cannot imagine them behaving like this towards an independent Scotland should that come to pass.
I fear that may be wishful thinking. I'd hope it was the case, but that our leaders would take a more professional and mature approach than emotional, but I think the latter is more likely, and there'd be a market for it on both sides.
I think the key differences are (1) the EU still think we will come crawling back if beaten up enough, which not even the most rabid Unionist would believe of Scotland and (2) they fear other countries might follow our example if we seem to be going OK, which again wouldn't really apply to Wales (the only other part of the UK with any mechanism to secede).
So I don't think we'd see in practice any talk of punishment. We would still have to live together on the same island and ultimately Conservatives are there, in their own conceit anyway, to do whatever works at the time.
I think (2) is much more at the front of their thoughts than (1).
Officials fear the dispute could spiral into trade war if checks are stepped up at Calais
One diplomat: “I’m worried that London may not be taking seriously the French threat to choke the flow of freight and let empty shelves put pressure on the British”
They won't be taking it seriously because it would be politically helpful if the French do that! A technical dispute no one but wonks cares about with the French action thus seeming disproportionate.
Additionally, if it causes empty shelves, and people associate that with French punitive actions, it probably means Boris would get away with other Brexit related problems not the fault of the French as people associate such problem with the perfidious Macron.
All in all, useful for both of them - I'd not be surprised if they are good mates.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
A Guardian analysis points out that Macron had his best result, last time, in Brittany. He needs the fishing vote. And the hard right - MLP, Zemmour, even Barnier Redux - is on his case
This has all the right ingredients to get quite spicy. Of course it assists Boris, as well. He can then blame any Brexit glitches on the dastardly Frogs, for the next year or so
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
It's worked in this country for years. No reason it shouldn't work there, In fact Macron would be a fool not to try.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
It's worked in this country for years. No reason it shouldn't work there, In fact Macron would be a fool not to try.
It's a tactic politicians will always make use of. But recognising it as such it means that more genuine problems with Brexit matters will get lost as Macronian/Borisian types play very obvious games.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
It's worked in this country for years. No reason it shouldn't work there, In fact Macron would be a fool not to try.
It's a tactic politicians will always make use of. But recognising it as such it means that more genuine problems with Brexit matters will get lost as Macronian/Borisian types play very obvious games.
Yes. It's a tactic. The faux outrage from those who used similar manoeuvres and who cheered them on is unedifying.
“ the bloc must show 'total determination', and show 'there is more damage to leaving the Union than remaining'
Just more revealing on the insecurities of the bloc?
Not really. It seems like an obvious plea from France for the bloc to weigh in behind the French.
Yes, and so far the EU doesn't seem to have been that interested in backing France up.
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
It's worked in this country for years. No reason it shouldn't work there, In fact Macron would be a fool not to try.
It's a tactic politicians will always make use of. But recognising it as such it means that more genuine problems with Brexit matters will get lost as Macronian/Borisian types play very obvious games.
Yes. It's a tactic. The faux outrage from those who used similar manoeuvres and who cheered them on is unedifying.
It works both ways. Those who expressed outrage at similar manoeuvres in the opposite direction in the past should also be expressing outrage at it in the other direction, or else prove the previous outrage as faux.
Either such behaviour is an outrage whoever does it, or it is just unedifying political tactics. I'd not be confident in historic consistency from many quarters.
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
Whether it plays out well may be immaterial depending on how well he thinks he is doing politically generally, and what options he thinks are open to him to attempt a distraction.
I expect him to be re-elected, but he does seem nervy.
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
Whether it plays out well may be immaterial depending on how well he thinks he is doing politically generally, and what options he thinks are open to him to attempt a distraction.
I expect him to be re-elected, but he does seem nervy.
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
I wonder how he's planning on dragging this out until the election date without getting embarrassed?
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
I wonder how he's planning on dragging this out until the election date without getting embarrassed?
Doesn't need to drag on continuously, just escalate and deescalate, to keep things bubbling for a nice juicy confrontation to cement the impression closer to it. Until then, a series of diplomatic chevauchée.
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
I wonder how he's planning on dragging this out until the election date without getting embarrassed?
It's about winning, it's about creating an external enemy.
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
Not me. I like Witchell more than I like Brenda.
Odd. I can't understand disliking Brenda, but if you do surely someone parasitic on her is even worse?
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
I wonder how he's planning on dragging this out until the election date without getting embarrassed?
It's about winning, it's about creating an external enemy.
Yeah, but if he falls on his face over this, quite likely imo, his internal enemies will make hay.
I wonder who leaked the letter to Von Der Leyen? The full quote makes it clear that Castex is worried about European public opinion needing to be shown that Brexit is damaging.
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
Not me. I like Witchell more than I like Brenda.
I find the concept of The Royal Correspondent a bit strange. I mean is Whitchell allowed to report on anything else? Or just royal stuff? And with the heir to thrown widely reported to despise him. Weird.
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Also: you should care. Because even if the lab leak hypothesis is wrong - chances of that are now sub-5% - the stuff that is being revealed about NIH, EcoHealth, Chinese labs, is absolutely chilling (and no one outside EcoHealth/Beijing disputes it, even the ultra-Zoonati)
EcoHealth proposed experiments so insane even Fauci said No Way (and he is very pro-Gain of Function, which is why he off-shored it to China after the ban in the USA)
Just one of these experiments was on another virus called Nipah.
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
Queen advised to rest for at least the next fortnight by the doctors.
London Bridge is going to fall down soon isn't it?
I hope not.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
Ok reflection that seems an odd snippet to have leaked. Wtf business is it of ours?
Having made it to 95 in the first place seems a bit mean to take away the evening gin now.
My thought entirely, and it's not like anyone can tell whether it's gin or mineral water
My mother has just reached 93 and is in the last period of her life according to the medics. Alcohol is the last thing on her mind.
Sorry to hear that @squareroot2 - best wishes to her and to you.
But regarding HMQ giving up drinking, I agree with @kle4@IshmaelZ - why on earth was that piece of medical news released?
Because what was released was “doctors have recommended and she has agreed”
Ie she is awake and rational
I never thought otherwise. I cannot see the need to put that message out in such a cryptic way; if it needed saying why not just say she is 'awake and rational'? Or even 'doctors have recommended she take a break for a few days and she has agreed'.
Does formally giving up drink carry some kind of significance for aristos that passes we hoi poloi by?
I wonder who leaked the letter to Von Der Leyen? The full quote makes it clear that Castex is worried about European public opinion needing to be shown that Brexit is damaging.
France gets to show it is standing up for the whole EU by taking on the UK, probably a positive stance, and gets to show at home it is not just meekly doing whatever the EU wants but being proactive in seeking to make it act.
(That said I'm only going on the reported snippets as I cannot read it myself)
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
I wonder who leaked the letter to Von Der Leyen? The full quote makes it clear that Castex is worried about European public opinion needing to be shown that Brexit is damaging.
It is enormously helpful to Boris, I'm not at all sure it helps France. My guess is some German or Dutchman (or Pole?) saw a chance to rein in Macron - and make him look a bit mad
Queen advised to rest for at least the next fortnight by the doctors.
London Bridge is going to fall down soon isn't it?
I hope not.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
Ok reflection that seems an odd snippet to have leaked. Wtf business is it of ours?
Having made it to 95 in the first place seems a bit mean to take away the evening gin now.
My thought entirely, and it's not like anyone can tell whether it's gin or mineral water
My mother has just reached 93 and is in the last period of her life according to the medics. Alcohol is the last thing on her mind.
Sorry to hear that @squareroot2 - best wishes to her and to you.
But regarding HMQ giving up drinking, I agree with @kle4@IshmaelZ - why on earth was that piece of medical news released?
Because what was released was “doctors have recommended and she has agreed”
Ie she is awake and rational
I never thought otherwise. I cannot see the need to put that message out in such a cryptic way; if it needed saying why not just say she is 'awake and rational'? Or even 'doctors have recommended she take a break for a few days and she has agreed'.
Does formally giving up drink carry some kind of significance for aristos that passes we hoi poloi by?
Yeah when it gets to the stage where they might accidentally pass the port to the right, lines have to be drawn
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
And, beyond worrying, I can do what exactly?
We do still live in democracies - I hope. We are not helpless Chinese peons.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
I'm a staunch supporter of the Queen (but not the Monarchy). She's got to get number one and displace the French.
May 27th 2024.
That's 25 days after the next general election if the FTPA isn't repealed or circumvented.
Is that the over/under line?
I would go under.
The ONS life expectancy calculator gives 98 for a 95 yo female. Which, considering her somewhat better than average living conditions and medical support, should just about do it.
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
And, beyond worrying, I can do what exactly?
We do still live in democracies - I hope. We are not helpless Chinese peons.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
Bubonic??
I will write to my MP and ask him to request the Secretary of State for Justice to prosecute Xi Jinping.
I wonder who leaked the letter to Von Der Leyen? The full quote makes it clear that Castex is worried about European public opinion needing to be shown that Brexit is damaging.
France gets to show it is standing up for the whole EU by taking on the UK, probably a positive stance, and gets to show at home it is not just meekly doing whatever the EU wants but being proactive in seeking to make it act.
(That said I'm only going on the reported snippets as I cannot read it myself)
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
Not me. I like Witchell more than I like Brenda.
Odd. I can't understand disliking Brenda, but if you do surely someone parasitic on her is even worse?
It's not like he's parasitic on her... he doesn't take her money or time or precious bodily fluids. But since you bring parasitism up..
Metaphors are either legitimate or not, you can't have it both ways.
You seem to have moved rather rapidly to the angry left since your very welcome arrival on the site. Just for the record, I shoot grouse, travel regularly to Ireland to h*nt the f*x, and used to thwack red deer on a regular basis. I don't say any of that to be contentious, just to undermine any consensus you think you are building
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
And, beyond worrying, I can do what exactly?
We do still live in democracies - I hope. We are not helpless Chinese peons.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
Bubonic??
I will write to my MP and ask him to request the Secretary of State for Justice to prosecute Xi Jinping.
Daszak is a British citizen, I believe. Certainly many of his colleagues are, and there were plenty of Brits amongst the signatories of the appalling, notorious Lancet letter. Large chunks of the British scientific establishment is implicated on what is now a clear cover-up of "lab leak" as a hypothesis in early 2020, preventing crucial scrutiny at the moment it was most needed
This shit matters, and UK Science has some explaining to do
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
Queen advised to rest for at least the next fortnight by the doctors.
London Bridge is going to fall down soon isn't it?
I hope not.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
Ok reflection that seems an odd snippet to have leaked. Wtf business is it of ours?
Having made it to 95 in the first place seems a bit mean to take away the evening gin now.
My thought entirely, and it's not like anyone can tell whether it's gin or mineral water
My mother has just reached 93 and is in the last period of her life according to the medics. Alcohol is the last thing on her mind.
Sorry to hear that @squareroot2 - best wishes to her and to you.
But regarding HMQ giving up drinking, I agree with @kle4@IshmaelZ - why on earth was that piece of medical news released?
Because what was released was “doctors have recommended and she has agreed”
Ie she is awake and rational
I never thought otherwise. I cannot see the need to put that message out in such a cryptic way; if it needed saying why not just say she is 'awake and rational'? Or even 'doctors have recommended she take a break for a few days and she has agreed'.
Does formally giving up drink carry some kind of significance for aristos that passes we hoi poloi by?
It’s a huge personal sacrifice for the good of her people. Or something
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
And, beyond worrying, I can do what exactly?
We do still live in democracies - I hope. We are not helpless Chinese peons.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
I wonder who leaked the letter to Von Der Leyen? The full quote makes it clear that Castex is worried about European public opinion needing to be shown that Brexit is damaging.
It is enormously helpful to Boris, I'm not at all sure it helps France. My guess is some German or Dutchman (or Pole?) saw a chance to rein in Macron - and make him look a bit mad
I don't think Macron is particularly popular with his other EU leaders.
The sceptical hate him for being in thrall to the EU. The europhile think him self centred and nationalistic.
Queen advised to rest for at least the next fortnight by the doctors.
London Bridge is going to fall down soon isn't it?
I hope not.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
I'm the very opposite of being a doctor but to me, on tv, and bearing in mind she's 95, she looks quite good. Frail but with an aura of health. She doesn't look ill. Hopefully this post will not age badly.
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
Not me. I like Witchell more than I like Brenda.
I find the concept of The Royal Correspondent a bit strange. I mean is Whitchell allowed to report on anything else? Or just royal stuff? And with the heir to thrown widely reported to despise him. Weird.
It's a BBC thing. Probably dates back to 1920s or whatever.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
Queen advised to rest for at least the next fortnight by the doctors.
London Bridge is going to fall down soon isn't it?
I hope not.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
I'm the very opposite of being a doctor but to me, on tv, and bearing in mind she's 95, she looks quite good. Frail but with an aura of health. She doesn't look ill. Hopefully this post will not age badly.
She has had a tough year though.
I don't think this would be being leaked if it were something minor.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
A morbid thought but what happens if HMQ dies on the eve of, or during, the Cop26 conference?
To be utterly cynical: Johnson gets out of a total hole as the whole thing is shaping up to be a flop.
In all fairness, what does being the host mean in terms of being able to acheive anything from such an exercise? No more than anyone else present really.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
You know what, I've got this tiny feeling IT CAME FROM THE LAB
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
Tbh I stopped reading your post after mention of 'rare cleavage sites' in point 1.
Meh. I was right. I've said it came from the lab since about June of last year. I am vindicated, Ignore all you want
Lol - you may well be right, or you may not be.
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
I am right, and as to one reason why my rightness is important, see my comment down below. These mad fuckers are doing science which could - literally - destroy humanity
And, beyond worrying, I can do what exactly?
We do still live in democracies - I hope. We are not helpless Chinese peons.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
What will be the effect on the practical lives of Brits if the Queen does die? I knwo there will be official mourning but what does that mean beside a lot of Nicolas Witchell and everyone looking really sad on TV ? Will shops shut ,cinemas close etc?
But at its most basic, even if you are a royalist, avoid television for two weeks. And on the day probably several things will close early, but most not I suspect. So practical effect looks like not that much.
And I don't think there's an 'If' about it.
The London Bridge plans might have been revised after complaints about DofE RIP overkill.
Anything but Nicolas Witchell. Charles is not a fan....
It's still possible she could outlive him.
We can all row in behind the notion that HM the Q outlives Nicholas Witchell....
Not me. I like Witchell more than I like Brenda.
Odd. I can't understand disliking Brenda, but if you do surely someone parasitic on her is even worse?
It's not like he's parasitic on her... he doesn't take her money or time or precious bodily fluids. But since you bring parasitism up..
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
French more decent than fellow Anglospherians shock.
lol. What do you expect Biden to do? He doesn't say France is MORE, he is saying France is just as loyal, decent, blah blah diplowank
Biden is the guy who warmly embraced Macron in Cornwall, even as, behind the scenes, he was plotting with Johnson and ScoMo to sabotage the biggest French defence deal in history, steal all France's business, and set up a new Anglo Saxon defence alliance explicitly excluding the French, despite a decade of Australian promises to Paris
He's hardly gonna double down on the insults, there is no need, America got what it wanted (as did Boris and Morrison)
A morbid thought but what happens if HMQ dies on the eve of, or during, the Cop26 conference?
To be utterly cynical: Johnson gets out of a total hole as the whole thing is shaping up to be a flop.
Expectations are so low for it that unless the places burns down during the conference from a freak heatwave it will be sold as a success.
Even if that happens, Johnson will walk away from the inferno, dust himself down, declare that England is rising once again, and call an early general election.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
But this is a Macron trying to arrange it to be harder, I.e. exactly what is implied by ‘punishment beatings’. I don’t expect our friends in the EU to give use special treatment. We left the place where that existed. But it would be nice if our allies (NATO) and the country we spent money and lives to liberate didn’t actively set out to harm us for having the temerity to leave the EU.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
Perhaps. But this is the French Prime Minister asking the European Commission to SHOW European public opinion that Brexit will be more harmful to Britain than Remaining.... and this is in regard to some fishing licences??!!
So it really is all about Brexit, it's fuck all to do with fish, France wants Britain to hurt, and to be seen to be hurting, so other European countries don't get ideas about quitting. That's it. That's what it says
Your pathetic shrug really is a giveaway. If a British Leaver prime minister sent a letter like this, asking for a European ally to be harmed, solely for the benefit of some public opinion, you and all your fellow Remoaners would blow a fucking gasket
But will it necessarily play out well for Macron? It's doubtful he'll be able to turn it into an EU v UK matter unless the UK side has breached some agreement. But then does he back down quickly or escalate to non-fishing areas?
I wonder how he's planning on dragging this out until the election date without getting embarrassed?
It's about winning, it's about creating an external enemy.
To be fair to Macron, I don't think he created the notion of Les Rosbifs being the external enemy.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
If only there was a phrase, in French*, that meant to make a display of punishment to prevent further infractions by others.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
Ok Wickham's wrong though. That letter does not say "France tells Brussels it must demonstrate that Britain has been damaged by leaving the EU".
Nor does the letter call on the EU to "damage" a former member state, as you suggested earlier.
It calls for a punishment beating, to educate European public opinion on the evils of Brexit. That's what it says. Denying this is futile. Remainers are cretins
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
If only there was a phrase, in French*, that meant to make a display of punishment to prevent further infractions by others.
(I am assuming not actually a French idiom)
I believe it was a French response to the execution of a British admiral, pour encourager les autres. Not sure what Les had done though...
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
Ok Wickham's wrong though. That letter does not say "France tells Brussels it must demonstrate that Britain has been damaged by leaving the EU".
Nor does the letter call on the EU to "damage" a former member state, as you suggested earlier.
It calls for a punishment beating, to educate European public opinion on the evils of Brexit. That's what it says. Denying this is futile. Remainers are cretins
No, Leavers are cretins.
Solidarity is the basis of a Union and we are no longer in it.
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
That says, There are disadvantages to leaving the Union just as there are disadvantages to staying in it.
"that there is MORE damage to leaving the Union than in staying there"
Hardly the "punishment beating" we were told though.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
If only there was a phrase, in French*, that meant to make a display of punishment to prevent further infractions by others.
(I am assuming not actually a French idiom)
I believe it was a French response to the execution of a British admiral, pour encourager les autres. Not sure what Les had done though...
I don't see this as helpful for Macron or France. A leading EU country calling on the EU to "damage" a former member state, to prove the folly of leaving the EU?
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
What a weird way to find out that even with a decade + of zero use, my French appears to be better than that of... 99% of the Brexit commmentariat in the UK.
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
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I have not had a delay beyond their delivery dates in the years I have used them
In fact talking to family and friends it looks like a lot more Christmas buying is going to Amazon and online and actually starting now to get Christmas done asap
But this isn't really about French fishing boats. This Wag The Dog shit, where Macron is seeking to make political capital out of an argument with the old enemy. He's hoping that he can bring the EU in, and declare a famous victory (leading to his reelection next year).
It's pretty unedifying behaviour.
My vicar, who happens to be a lady, is a splendid person who represents what a vicar should be/do. She, nor the person at Canterbury is God's representative on earth.
He won because he was less awful than Le Pen.
Given his government's recent rhetoric on Islam, we can't even say that for certain any more.
Additionally, if it causes empty shelves, and people associate that with French punitive actions, it probably means Boris would get away with other Brexit related problems not the fault of the French as people associate such problem with the perfidious Macron.
All in all, useful for both of them - I'd not be surprised if they are good mates.
This has all the right ingredients to get quite spicy. Of course it assists Boris, as well. He can then blame any Brexit glitches on the dastardly Frogs, for the next year or so
In fact Macron would be a fool not to try.
I wonder whether she's had some sort of minor stroke. Might explain the advice about giving up drinking.
Either such behaviour is an outrage whoever does it, or it is just unedifying political tactics. I'd not be confident in historic consistency from many quarters.
I expect him to be re-elected, but he does seem nervy.
translates assounds like "dead" in Hebrew apparently.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59090067
"3 takeaways from the recently released EcoHealth grant proposals & reports:
1. By March 2018, they had a roadmap for detecting & inserting novel rare (furin) cleavage sites into novel low risk SARS-like viruses.
2. By 2019, chimeric human pathogen MERS-CoV research was ongoing.
3. Several groups of people were aware of either one or both of the points above and decided not to say anything about it for close to 2 years since SARS2 emerged in Wuhan."
https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1454083865556000775?s=20
But regarding HMQ giving up drinking, I agree with @kle4 @IshmaelZ - why on earth was that piece of medical news released?
These are difficult days to face
Ie she is awake and rational
I can't really get exercised by it. If you're right, what practical difference would it make? I already know China is a nasty, controlling, dangerous regime... and thers f*ck all I (or the rest of the world, it seems) can do about it.
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1454180320169930753
That's 25 days after the next general election if the FTPA isn't repealed or circumvented.
EcoHealth proposed experiments so insane even Fauci said No Way (and he is very pro-Gain of Function, which is why he off-shored it to China after the ban in the USA)
Just one of these experiments was on another virus called Nipah.
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2109/2109.09112.pdf
https://twitter.com/quay_dr/status/1450005470454824965?s=20
Covid-19 has a Case Fatality Ratio of about 1%.
Nipah has a CFR of maybe 75%
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/next-pandemic/nipah-virus
Does formally giving up drink carry some kind of significance for aristos that passes we hoi poloi by?
France gets to show it is standing up for the whole EU by taking on the UK, probably a positive stance, and gets to show at home it is not just meekly doing whatever the EU wants but being proactive in seeking to make it act.
(That said I'm only going on the reported snippets as I cannot read it myself)
I would go under.
Public opinion must see the guilty parties brought to justice, and scientists must be told Fuck This Bubonic Shit
I will write to my MP and ask him to request the Secretary of State for Justice to prosecute Xi Jinping.
It sounds unhinged, even if it has its own cold logic. It was also a private letter. I reckon it was leaked to hurt French interests and/or specific politicians. It could just be some internal French rivalry: an enemy of Macron/Castex
That letter *doesn't* say that the EU should hurt the UK to show that Brexit was a bad idea. It really just doesn't.
https://twitter.com/sylviademars/status/1454191198982316038
You seem to have moved rather rapidly to the angry left since your very welcome arrival on the site. Just for the record, I shoot grouse, travel regularly to Ireland to h*nt the f*x, and used to thwack red deer on a regular basis. I don't say any of that to be contentious, just to undermine any consensus you think you are building
This shit matters, and UK Science has some explaining to do
He says, end of page one, that the EU must *show* (montrer) that it is more harmful to leave than to stay (qu'il y a davantage de dommages à quitter l'Union qu'à y demeurer).
Nope. Years yet I think. I hope.
The sceptical hate him for being in thrall to the EU. The europhile think him self centred and nationalistic.
I don't think this would be being leaked if it were something minor.
To be honest it is not a complete shock, you've always had an undercurrent of darkness.
Indeed a statement of banal truth.
Biden is the guy who warmly embraced Macron in Cornwall, even as, behind the scenes, he was plotting with Johnson and ScoMo to sabotage the biggest French defence deal in history, steal all France's business, and set up a new Anglo Saxon defence alliance explicitly excluding the French, despite a decade of Australian promises to Paris
He's hardly gonna double down on the insults, there is no need, America got what it wanted (as did Boris and Morrison)
Nor does the letter call on the EU to "damage" a former member state, as you suggested earlier.
So it really is all about Brexit, it's fuck all to do with fish, France wants Britain to hurt, and to be seen to be hurting, so other European countries don't get ideas about quitting. That's it. That's what it says
Your pathetic shrug really is a giveaway. If a British Leaver prime minister sent a letter like this, asking for a European ally to be harmed, solely for the benefit of some public opinion, you and all your fellow Remoaners would blow a fucking gasket
(I am assuming not actually a French idiom)
And there’s no one whiter (literally) than a Scotchman.
It wasn’t just a waste of money – it failed to prevent two more lockdowns.
ANDREW ORLOWSKI"
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/10/29/the-catastrophe-of-nhs-test-and-trace/
Solidarity is the basis of a Union and we are no longer in it.