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  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    They're so predictable aren't they.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump calls for party unity.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,733
    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    The BBC newsroom is going to need a massive amount of therapy to cope with a Trump win. They just don't know how to handle such a prospect.
    What you mean there won't be 100;s of champagne bottle cluttering the corridors ala 1997 and 2008?
    I suspect not. As journalists, they should be excited about a massive upheaval in the political landscape - all the stories and profiles that can be written. But no. They will go into shock and then into mourning
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    How SLOW is St Louis at reporting.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Yeah.

    "You're a young guy; don't be Romney's kamikaze pilot."
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,733

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    The BBC newsroom is going to need a massive amount of therapy to cope with a Trump win. They just don't know how to handle such a prospect.
    What you mean there won't be 100;s of champagne bottle cluttering the corridors ala 1997 and 2008?
    I suspect not. As journalists, they should be excited about a massive upheaval in the political landscape - all the stories and profiles that can be written. But no. They will go into shock and then into mourning
    Lack of champagne will be due to the budget cuts I'm sure ;-)
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    How SLOW is St Louis at reporting.

    Civic life isn't exactly in great shape there.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO narrowing slightly.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Speedy said:

    I can't call Illinois yet for Hillary since most of Chicago is not in yet.

    I am, she leads in Chicago with 25% counted.
    The Cruz-Sanders correlation continues !
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    RodCrosby said:

    MO narrowing slightly.

    It narrowed to 2.5, then widenly slightly. Not enough shift overall, but will make a difference CD-wise
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    RodCrosby said:

    MO narrowing slightly.

    Barely any of St Louis reporting.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Trump finds it in him to thank Rubio !
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Trump calls the negative ads against him as mostly false, 90% false.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    That's me out for the night. A few quid up, nothing major, but Rubio (£-800) off the list.
  • Plato_Says
    Plato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Trump very funny talking about negative TV ads
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump: "reporters are disgusting people, but some are nice"
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Trump seemed to be relaxed by the reality that only a convention stitch-up can get depose him now as GOP candidate. He won't be defeated at the polls by any single candidate.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Kansas City has now gone for Cruz.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    Ryan been there and got the T-shirtin 2012 he will stay House Speaker
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2016

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    I very much Doubt Ryan would want to be VP.

    Especially Trump's VP.

    Ryan wants his policy agenda adopted by trump - that's the game of poker that's being played right now. Ryan's problem is - how do you get a candidate like trump to actually commit to anything?

    He'll do one thing, say another, do another, etc etc.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Speedy said:

    Kansas City has now gone for Cruz.

    Everything's up to date in Kansas City...
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO overall moving a little further to Trump.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Pong said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    I very much Doubt Ryan would want to be VP.

    Especially Trump's VP.

    Ryan wants his policy agenda adopted by trump - that's the real game of poker that's being played.
    Well Trump does need a policy platform - other than building a wall, banning all Muslims from entering the US and 'doing better deals' - so he needs to find someone to help
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Trump at only 13% in St Louis County county ?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Ohio seems to be weirdly pro Clinton compared to Missouri and Illinois (And Michigan for that matter).
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO wavering...

    So hard to call.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).

    That doesn't sound right at all. I'll check tomorrow.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump holding a small lead in MO.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).

    That doesn't sound right at all. I'll check tomorrow.
    NYT:

    Trump 619
    Cruz 393
    Rubio 167
    Kasich 136

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
  • Plato_Says
    Plato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Ross Douthat (September 2015)
    The entire commentariat is going to feel a little silly when Marco Rubio wins every Republican primary.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
    fractional move to Trump...
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
    The only place in the US to have a riot in the last 20 years IIRC.
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    Greene County is all in, unfortunately for Cruz, as is most of the SW. MO should be Trump's now.
  • justin124
    justin124 Posts: 11,527
    Clinton still over 50000 ahead in Illinois despite her margin down to 4%. Her Ohio win does not look quite so stonking as it appeared earlier - now leading 56 to 43.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    sudden spurt for Cruz, into the lead.

    800 votes in it.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz takes the lead in Missouri.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Ted Cruz: "Rubio can paint a tapestry"
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump back in the lead by 1000
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Trump now back in the lead in MO
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz: "come and join us with Fiorina, Perry, the National Review and Mark Levin"

    "This is a 2 way race, we won from alaska to maine"
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz: America will be better tomorrow than yesterday
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    All the votes from the SW bible belt are now in...
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    The places that haven't reported look like Trump places.

    update: trending well to Trump now.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.

    I doubt he's any different to any other person "behind the eyes".
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Take the 1.33 on Trump in Missouri, the remaining counties look good for him to me.
  • oxfordsimon
    oxfordsimon Posts: 5,845
    AndyJS said:

    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.

    I doubt he's any different to any other person "behind the eyes".
    There is no spark, no inspiring rhetoric, no real passion. He comes over a lot more manufactured than he did a week ago.

    He knows he can't get to 1237 and doesn't really seem to be willing to fight. Where is the real drive to want to lead the US of A?
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Cruz needs to be 2.4% ahead in the last 11%.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    RodCrosby said:

    The places that haven't reported look like Trump places.

    update: trending well to Trump now.

    St.Louis City County is still at 0%
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 160 votes ahead.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    RodCrosby said:

    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 votes ahead.

    Jefferson County is in on DDHQ, Trump takes an extra 4000 vote lead.
    But it will all come down to the City of St. Louis.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    And a sudden spurt wins it for Trump, I think.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Speedy said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 votes ahead.

    Jefferson County is in on DDHQ, Trump takes an extra 4000 vote lead.
    But it will all come down to the City of St. Louis.
    CNN are saying 99% counted, but that must be wrong. Right?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    99% of Missouri in but about 500 votes in in St Louis ?!
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    AndyJS said:

    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.

    PLenty of voters in St Louis !
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO could be a weird one, with the PV winner (if Cruz) losing heavily in the delegates...
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.

    PLenty of voters in St Louis !
    Maybe they mean 99% of counties have started reporting, which is a bit misleading.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?

    I think it has 13.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?

    Eight, but they did something odd, giving them 5 delegates each, instead of the usual 3.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    lead narrows to 2600, with 2 counties yet to declare.

    lead 3000 with one to declare.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    RodCrosby said:

    lead narrows to 2600, with 2 counties yet to declare.

    I greened up for £5 profit on Trump at 1.07 ;p
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    St Louis City is in Trump wins.

    There is still some outstanding precincts in St.Louis county and suburbs though.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Extraordinarily low number of GOP votes in St Louis City city
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Trump's geographical spread of his votes in St Louis looks masterful.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
    sorry, you're correct.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    RodCrosby said:

    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.

    Net Cruz + 800 votes when it fills.

    St Louis still to come in which is (narrowly) Trump
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
    sorry, you're correct.
    Impressed by the Guardian website since they're the only ones giving precincts reporting that I've seen so far.
  • justin124
    justin124 Posts: 11,527
    Missouri called for Sanders who now trails Clinton in Illinois by 2.6%
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.

    Net Cruz + 800 votes when it fills.

    St Louis still to come in which is (narrowly) Trump
    And another 500 votes for Cruz from Jackson.
    Trump will get 500 votes from Perry.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Boone and St.Charles have almost finished now.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Maybe Trump will have a more efficient distribution, giving him more CD delegates, even if Cruz 'wins'.

    GP (although behind in the count) is pointing to that scenario.
    http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-R
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Trump leads by 2,966 with 83.6% of precincts reporting.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    St. Louis county is now almost completely in.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/mo/Rep best source for Missouri

    Decision Desk shows the relative populations in the districts well though
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    St. Louis county is now almost completely in.

    Just 7,000 votes from St Louis City so far.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/mo/Rep best source for Missouri

    Decision Desk shows the relative populations in the districts well though

    Their "99% counted" isn't very clear. Actually 10% of precincts to come.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    OK, toss a coin.

    TRUMP!

    A good night for him, whatever.

    And it's goodnight from me.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    All of Jackson is in and Perry, Trump still 2.5k ahead.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-R

    Missouri Delegates:

    Statewide

    Almost certainly Trump I think

    At least 4 CDs

    So he has at least 32 delegates from Missouri, possibly 37. Could be 42/
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    Is Trump ahead in the polls in California?
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    I'm calling Illinois for Hillary and Missouri for Sanders.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    I'm calling Illinois for Hillary and Missouri for Sanders.

    Yes. And it looks like Trump has won 4 out of 5 states being contested tonight.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    AndyJS said:

    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    Is Trump ahead in the polls in California?
    16 point lead in California:

    http://capoliticalreviewcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/16-CA-GOP-Presidential-Primary-Poll-March.pdf
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    That is very good news for Trump.
    If he wins Missouri.
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