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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    They're so predictable aren't they.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump calls for party unity.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    The BBC newsroom is going to need a massive amount of therapy to cope with a Trump win. They just don't know how to handle such a prospect.
    What you mean there won't be 100;s of champagne bottle cluttering the corridors ala 1997 and 2008?
    I suspect not. As journalists, they should be excited about a massive upheaval in the political landscape - all the stories and profiles that can be written. But no. They will go into shock and then into mourning
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    How SLOW is St Louis at reporting.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Yeah.

    "You're a young guy; don't be Romney's kamikaze pilot."
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554

    BBC headline: Setback for Trump in White House race

    The BBC newsroom is going to need a massive amount of therapy to cope with a Trump win. They just don't know how to handle such a prospect.
    What you mean there won't be 100;s of champagne bottle cluttering the corridors ala 1997 and 2008?
    I suspect not. As journalists, they should be excited about a massive upheaval in the political landscape - all the stories and profiles that can be written. But no. They will go into shock and then into mourning
    Lack of champagne will be due to the budget cuts I'm sure ;-)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    How SLOW is St Louis at reporting.

    Civic life isn't exactly in great shape there.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO narrowing slightly.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663

    Speedy said:

    I can't call Illinois yet for Hillary since most of Chicago is not in yet.

    I am, she leads in Chicago with 25% counted.
    The Cruz-Sanders correlation continues !
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    RodCrosby said:

    MO narrowing slightly.

    It narrowed to 2.5, then widenly slightly. Not enough shift overall, but will make a difference CD-wise
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    RodCrosby said:

    MO narrowing slightly.

    Barely any of St Louis reporting.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Trump finds it in him to thank Rubio !
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Trump calls the negative ads against him as mostly false, 90% false.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    That's me out for the night. A few quid up, nothing major, but Rubio (£-800) off the list.
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Trump very funny talking about negative TV ads
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Trump: "reporters are disgusting people, but some are nice"
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Trump seemed to be relaxed by the reality that only a convention stitch-up can get depose him now as GOP candidate. He won't be defeated at the polls by any single candidate.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Kansas City has now gone for Cruz.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,736

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    Ryan been there and got the T-shirtin 2012 he will stay House Speaker
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2016

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    I very much Doubt Ryan would want to be VP.

    Especially Trump's VP.

    Ryan wants his policy agenda adopted by trump - that's the game of poker that's being played right now. Ryan's problem is - how do you get a candidate like trump to actually commit to anything?

    He'll do one thing, say another, do another, etc etc.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Speedy said:

    Kansas City has now gone for Cruz.

    Everything's up to date in Kansas City...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO overall moving a little further to Trump.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Pong said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump spoke to Paul Ryan today.

    VERY INTERESTING

    Ryan will back Trump if he's the nominee, despite criticism

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/paul-ryan-would-support-trump-220771
    Now there's a man I'd be offering the vice-Presidency to...
    I very much Doubt Ryan would want to be VP.

    Especially Trump's VP.

    Ryan wants his policy agenda adopted by trump - that's the real game of poker that's being played.
    Well Trump does need a policy platform - other than building a wall, banning all Muslims from entering the US and 'doing better deals' - so he needs to find someone to help
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Trump at only 13% in St Louis County county ?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Ohio seems to be weirdly pro Clinton compared to Missouri and Illinois (And Michigan for that matter).
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO wavering...

    So hard to call.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).

    That doesn't sound right at all. I'll check tomorrow.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump holding a small lead in MO.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    Trump has 47% of delegates so far. Needs 53% of remaining. (New York Times figures).

    That doesn't sound right at all. I'll check tomorrow.
    NYT:

    Trump 619
    Cruz 393
    Rubio 167
    Kasich 136

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
  • Plato_SaysPlato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Ross Douthat (September 2015)
    The entire commentariat is going to feel a little silly when Marco Rubio wins every Republican primary.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
    fractional move to Trump...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Speedy said:

    Cruz is ready to overtake in Missouri.

    Not certain.

    Cruz 0.6% behind but needs a 1.3% lead in the remaining third...
    Looks to me like alot of the remaining votes are from St Louis where they're doing an appalling job of totting up the votes.
    The only place in the US to have a riot in the last 20 years IIRC.
  • LondonBobLondonBob Posts: 467
    Greene County is all in, unfortunately for Cruz, as is most of the SW. MO should be Trump's now.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    Clinton still over 50000 ahead in Illinois despite her margin down to 4%. Her Ohio win does not look quite so stonking as it appeared earlier - now leading 56 to 43.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    sudden spurt for Cruz, into the lead.

    800 votes in it.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz takes the lead in Missouri.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Ted Cruz: "Rubio can paint a tapestry"
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump back in the lead by 1000
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Trump now back in the lead in MO
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz: "come and join us with Fiorina, Perry, the National Review and Mark Levin"

    "This is a 2 way race, we won from alaska to maine"
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Cruz: America will be better tomorrow than yesterday
  • LondonBobLondonBob Posts: 467
    All the votes from the SW bible belt are now in...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    The places that haven't reported look like Trump places.

    update: trending well to Trump now.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.

    I doubt he's any different to any other person "behind the eyes".
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Take the 1.33 on Trump in Missouri, the remaining counties look good for him to me.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    AndyJS said:

    Cruz is dead behind the eyes - there is nothing there. Nothing at all.

    I doubt he's any different to any other person "behind the eyes".
    There is no spark, no inspiring rhetoric, no real passion. He comes over a lot more manufactured than he did a week ago.

    He knows he can't get to 1237 and doesn't really seem to be willing to fight. Where is the real drive to want to lead the US of A?
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Cruz needs to be 2.4% ahead in the last 11%.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RodCrosby said:

    The places that haven't reported look like Trump places.

    update: trending well to Trump now.

    St.Louis City County is still at 0%
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 160 votes ahead.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RodCrosby said:

    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 votes ahead.

    Jefferson County is in on DDHQ, Trump takes an extra 4000 vote lead.
    But it will all come down to the City of St. Louis.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    And a sudden spurt wins it for Trump, I think.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Speedy said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Damn. narrowing again.

    Trump 300 votes ahead.

    Jefferson County is in on DDHQ, Trump takes an extra 4000 vote lead.
    But it will all come down to the City of St. Louis.
    CNN are saying 99% counted, but that must be wrong. Right?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    99% of Missouri in but about 500 votes in in St Louis ?!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    AndyJS said:

    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.

    PLenty of voters in St Louis !
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MO could be a weird one, with the PV winner (if Cruz) losing heavily in the delegates...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    CNN says 99% in but 4 counties have reported nothing so far. Maybe not many voters there.

    PLenty of voters in St Louis !
    Maybe they mean 99% of counties have started reporting, which is a bit misleading.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?

    I think it has 13.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    How many congressional districts are there in Missouri ?

    Eight, but they did something odd, giving them 5 delegates each, instead of the usual 3.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    lead narrows to 2600, with 2 counties yet to declare.

    lead 3000 with one to declare.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    RodCrosby said:

    lead narrows to 2600, with 2 counties yet to declare.

    I greened up for £5 profit on Trump at 1.07 ;p
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    St Louis City is in Trump wins.

    There is still some outstanding precincts in St.Louis county and suburbs though.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Extraordinarily low number of GOP votes in St Louis City city
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Trump's geographical spread of his votes in St Louis looks masterful.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
    sorry, you're correct.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    RodCrosby said:

    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.

    Net Cruz + 800 votes when it fills.

    St Louis still to come in which is (narrowly) Trump
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Trump about 3000 ahead with two counties to declare?

    The Guardian website says 20% of precincts still to report. Declared so far: 2,408 out of 3,041 precincts.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
    Way behind CNN.
    The actual votes for the candidates are the same, 334k vs 331k. Precincts reporting now 2628/3041.
    sorry, you're correct.
    Impressed by the Guardian website since they're the only ones giving precincts reporting that I've seen so far.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    Missouri called for Sanders who now trails Clinton in Illinois by 2.6%
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Pulpstar said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Boone county is only 74% counted. Strong Cruz.

    Net Cruz + 800 votes when it fills.

    St Louis still to come in which is (narrowly) Trump
    And another 500 votes for Cruz from Jackson.
    Trump will get 500 votes from Perry.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Boone and St.Charles have almost finished now.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Maybe Trump will have a more efficient distribution, giving him more CD delegates, even if Cruz 'wins'.

    GP (although behind in the count) is pointing to that scenario.
    http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-R
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Trump leads by 2,966 with 83.6% of precincts reporting.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    St. Louis county is now almost completely in.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/mo/Rep best source for Missouri

    Decision Desk shows the relative populations in the districts well though
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    St. Louis county is now almost completely in.

    Just 7,000 votes from St Louis City so far.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/mo/Rep best source for Missouri

    Decision Desk shows the relative populations in the districts well though

    Their "99% counted" isn't very clear. Actually 10% of precincts to come.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    OK, toss a coin.

    TRUMP!

    A good night for him, whatever.

    And it's goodnight from me.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    All of Jackson is in and Perry, Trump still 2.5k ahead.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-R

    Missouri Delegates:

    Statewide

    Almost certainly Trump I think

    At least 4 CDs

    So he has at least 32 delegates from Missouri, possibly 37. Could be 42/
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    Is Trump ahead in the polls in California?
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    I'm calling Illinois for Hillary and Missouri for Sanders.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Speedy said:

    I'm calling Illinois for Hillary and Missouri for Sanders.

    Yes. And it looks like Trump has won 4 out of 5 states being contested tonight.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    AndyJS said:

    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    Is Trump ahead in the polls in California?
    16 point lead in California:

    http://capoliticalreviewcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/16-CA-GOP-Presidential-Primary-Poll-March.pdf
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
    Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
    Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

    That is very good news for Trump.
    If he wins Missouri.
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