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  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    I'm ready to call Ohio for Kasich.
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838
    edited March 2016
    Kasich into 8.6 for the nomination

    8.2 ... yo
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    3% in kasish lead increasing
  • DanSmith
    DanSmith Posts: 1,215
    MikeL said:

    This is surely looking very, very good for Trump.

    Why is he still 1.42 for the nomination?

    It is bizarre. You look at all the remaining winner takes all states, he's going to pretty much sweep the lot. Will be enough to get him over the threshold.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    MikeL said:

    This is surely looking very, very good for Trump.

    Why is he still 1.42 for the nomination?

    Because he is doing worse than expectations and in delegates.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    AndyJS said:

    Found the GOP Ohio page on Betfair. Trump currently 6:

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.123432158

    Hope you made money with me finding and posting the Exit Poll numbers 45 minutes before polls closed.
    Unfortunately not, I was looking at census data for an EU referendum spreadsheet I'm doing.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Speedy said:

    MikeL said:

    This is surely looking very, very good for Trump.

    Why is he still 1.42 for the nomination?

    Because he is doing worse than expectations and in delegates.
    Slightly. Maybe.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Trump may regret not trying to get 5% more votes in Ohio, at the cost of 5% in Florida. It looks like Rubio is so dead and buried that the 5% would have made a difference. It won't cost Trump the nomination though.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    4% in lead of over 2000 to Kasish
  • DanSmith
    DanSmith Posts: 1,215
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Trump may regret not trying to get 5% more votes in Ohio, at the cost of 5% in Florida. It looks like Rubio is so dead and buried that the 5% would have made a difference. It won't cost Trump the nomination though.

    I think the momentum boost he gets from crushing Rubio in Florida is probably worth it. Media/voters will write off Kasich as a home win.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    6% and Kasish over 14000 ahead
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    bigjohnowls said:

    4% in lead of over 2000 to Kasish

    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/ohio/

    gaze into the future :)
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Question: Do we have any Clinton vs Trump polling for Florida? As in the past Florida has proved so important for POTUS and CNN are explaining the reasons why Trump is so popular with GOP supports in Florida.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Kasich with >5% lead with >10% counted (test 3)

    No real close ones so far
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    9% 20k lead
  • DanSmith
    DanSmith Posts: 1,215
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Question: Do we have any Clinton vs Trump polling for Florida? As in the past Florida has proved so important for POTUS and CNN are explaining the reasons why Trump is so popular with GOP supports in Florida.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.html

    It's close.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sky News with a special election programme.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    Trump has narrowly won Illinois according to exit polls. Missouri too close to call.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    I call N.C. for Trump.

    And Ohio for Kasich.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Looks miles behind:

    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/dem/president/ohio/

    Indeed let's call this Clinton >5% lead, greater than 10% counted (test 4)
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    FL called for Trump..
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    ABC just said matter-of-factly that Rubio will drop out. Is there any official word yet?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Exit polls: both Missouri and Illinois too close to call between Clinton and Sanders.
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Oh god I turn on Newsnight to watch the stuff about Syria and f##king Bad Al is on...

    You seem to have an odd and unhealthy obsession with Syria. I am not sure it is one the Syrian people appreciate however, Francis.
  • NickPalmer
    NickPalmer Posts: 21,724
    edited March 2016
    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    williamglenn said:

    ABC just said matter-of-factly that Rubio will drop out. Is there any official word yet?

    He officially denied he would.

    Fingers crossed my 1.25 Rubio-before-Cruz bet is a winner.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited March 2016
    Really interesting map CNN just flashed up showing states won by candidates for candidates from both parties...and roughly it seemed to me where Trump has won, Clinton has won and where Trump has Lost, Clinton has lost....
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    williamglenn said:

    ABC just said matter-of-factly that Rubio will drop out. Is there any official word yet?

    He officially denied he would.

    Fingers crossed my 1.25 Rubio-before-Cruz bet is a winner.
    Chairman's vote of confidence
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    NickPalmer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/nc/
  • Plato_Says
    Plato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Doesn't he need to suspend rather than quit, so he's still got control over his delegates?
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    williamglenn said:

    ABC just said matter-of-factly that Rubio will drop out. Is there any official word yet?

    He officially denied he would.

    Fingers crossed my 1.25 Rubio-before-Cruz bet is a winner.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Really interesting map CNN just flashed up showing states won by candidates for candidates from both parties...and roughly it seemed to me where Trump has won, Clinton has won and where Trump has Lost, Clinton has lost....

    Yes I noted that too.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    NickPalmer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
    I
    NickPalmer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
    I've found CNN and DDHQ as a pair work well

    http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/ohio/
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    CNN Florida

    GOP 72% in
    Trump 45.5% (projected winner)
    Rubio 27. 6%
    Cruz 16.4%
    Kasich 6. 6%


    Dems 77% in
    Clinton 65. 2% in (projected winner )
    Sanders 32. 6%
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    NickPalmer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
    I'm using DecisionDesk, CNN and 538.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    NickPalmer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Sanders in with a chance in Ohio.

    Where is the best site for ongoing results - DecisionDesk? Nothing there from Ohio yet.
    I like this one

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/oh/Rep
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    If Illinois goes big enough for Trump it effectively becomes WTA.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    LondonBob said:

    If Illinois goes big enough for Trump it effectively becomes WTA.

    Far more interesting race than Florida or Ohio. NC is itneresting but the delegate counts aren't very sensitive.
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    Think there was a lot of anti Trump voting by Democrats in Ohio, open primary.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Really interesting map CNN just flashed up showing states won by candidates for candidates from both parties...and roughly it seemed to me where Trump has won, Clinton has won and where Trump has Lost, Clinton has lost....

    I know, the only spoilers are the home states of their competitors.

    And Hillary having only one opponent rather than 3 that Trump has.
    If Hillary had more credible opponents then the Democrats would also have gone to a convention.
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    My early exuberant Kasich for POTUS bets are finally paying dividends!
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    The small Trump and Hillary characters on the Guardian are amusing.
  • williamglenn
    williamglenn Posts: 56,289
    "Springfield, IL to extend polls until 8:30 due to turnout, Illinois Republican Party confirms to ABC"
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    LondonBob said:

    Think there was a lot of anti Trump voting by Democrats in Ohio, open primary.

    Their decision to do so could have handed the state to Sanders.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Mortimer said:

    My early exuberant Kasich for POTUS bets are finally paying dividends!

    Where does Kasich go after Ohio?
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    AndyJS said:

    Mortimer said:

    My early exuberant Kasich for POTUS bets are finally paying dividends!

    Where does Kasich go after Ohio?
    Nowhere - they're paying dividends because there are finally buyers......

    :-)
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    AndyJS said:

    LondonBob said:

    Think there was a lot of anti Trump voting by Democrats in Ohio, open primary.

    Their decision to do so could have handed the state to Sanders.
    Clinton is miles ahead according to CNN/DDHQ - are you going off somehting else?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Here's RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBIO !
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Marco Rubio is speaking.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    He's congratulating Donald Trump !
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    1% counted in MO.

    Trump leads 2:1
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Freed of the burden of the race, he's sounding quite normal now !
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited March 2016
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    AndyJS said:

    LondonBob said:

    Think there was a lot of anti Trump voting by Democrats in Ohio, open primary.

    Their decision to do so could have handed the state to Sanders.
    Clinton is miles ahead according to CNN/DDHQ - are you going off somehting else?
    Exit polls. Clinton narrowly ahead but they could be wrong again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/oh/Dem
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    I think he's bowing out the race !
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Rubio conceding in Florida on Sky News
  • tpfkar
    tpfkar Posts: 1,578
    Sounds like Rubio is dropping out of the race in a drunken student union. Just embarrassing!
  • Plato_Says
    Plato_Says Posts: 11,822
    Just saw an amazing stat, Romney won FL with 750k votes, Trump's almost there with half counted.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Is Rubio going to endorse Cruz or Kasich?
  • asjohnstone
    asjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    AndyJS said:

    Mortimer said:

    My early exuberant Kasich for POTUS bets are finally paying dividends!

    Where does Kasich go after Ohio?
    Does it matter if he can be laid off for a profit tonight?

    Obviously now is the time to trade out
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Bizarre how Clinton is so far ahead of the exit polling in Ohio. Is there some huge difference between Michigan and Ohio ?

    Have Sanders voters going to Kasich murdered him there.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Plato_Says said:

    Just saw an amazing stat, Romney won FL with 750k votes, Trump's almost there with half counted.

    60% counted, on 895k
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Question: Do we have any Clinton vs Trump polling for Florida? As in the past Florida has proved so important for POTUS and CNN are explaining the reasons why Trump is so popular with GOP supports in Florida.

    Trump will likely win Florida, it was 2% more GOP than the nation in 2012 and it went for Bush Snr in 1992
  • Mortimer
    Mortimer Posts: 14,229
    Pulpstar said:

    I think he's bowing out the race !

    It does sound like it....
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Florida looking great for the GOP on turnout tonight.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Rubio says he has lived paycheque to paycheque, looks like he might be again!
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    Florida looking great for the GOP on turnout tonight.

    PP have 1.66
    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/other-politics/us-states-betting

    Not sure if that's value TBH
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Mortimer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I think he's bowing out the race !

    It does sound like it....
    He's using past tense alot.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    HYUFD said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Question: Do we have any Clinton vs Trump polling for Florida? As in the past Florida has proved so important for POTUS and CNN are explaining the reasons why Trump is so popular with GOP supports in Florida.

    Trump will likely win Florida, it was 2% more GOP than the nation in 2012 and it went for Bush Snr in 1992
    Trump is a good fit for Florida, and Kasich in Ohio, but I don't think that they can win both.
    Only if Trump and Kasich are on the same ticket, which I think is unlikely.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    Mortimer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I think he's bowing out the race !

    It does sound like it....
    He's using past tense alot.
    http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Florida looking great for the GOP on turnout tonight.

    PP have 1.66
    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/other-politics/us-states-betting

    Not sure if that's value TBH
    Lol no, just backing republicans generally is way better than that.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Rubio blames everybody, conservatives, establishment ect ect.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Rubio backs Kasich or Cruz?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Wonder if he'll endorse Cruz/
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    bigjohnowls said:

    Rubio backs Kasich or Cruz?

    Both.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    "Strong Judeo christian values" sounds kind of Cruz
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    2 precincts in and Missouri looking good for Trump, not even in the south where he should be strong. Of course could be outliers.
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739
    edited March 2016
    Speedy said:

    Rubio blames everybody, conservatives, establishment ect ect.

    Not my fault though.
    Rubio whining
    Oh and God decided he wouldn't win, too
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    "Strong Judeo christian values" sounds kind of Cruz

    People endorse the sort of person they want to be (Cruz), not the sort of person they are (Kasich).
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Bit of an odd speech. He's bowing out though,
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    Bit of an odd speech. He's bowing out though,

    Well thank **** for that. I mean, Bush mark II finally leaves the Betfair exchange.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Rubio blames the establishment for looking down on conservatives but America needs a principled and hopeful conservative movement not one based on fear
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    bigjohnowls said:

    Rubio backs Kasich or Cruz?

    I expect Norman Braman will tell him to back anyone but Trump, what Rubio as an individual thinks is beside the point.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Rubio's telling his back story again.

    Can anyone guess what job his Dad did ?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    First results from Illinois very good for Trump (50%).

    This is the key state tonight.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Not God's plan
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    "Strong Judeo christian values" sounds kind of Cruz

    People endorse the sort of person they want to be (Cruz), not the sort of person they are (Kasich).
    There are people that want to be Ted Cruz??!?!
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Rubio suspends campaign.
  • LondonBob
    LondonBob Posts: 467
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    First results from Illinois very good for Trump (50%).

    This is the key state tonight.

    Northern Marianas and a strong Illinois can recover losing Ohio.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    SUSPENDED.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Question: Do we have any Clinton vs Trump polling for Florida? As in the past Florida has proved so important for POTUS and CNN are explaining the reasons why Trump is so popular with GOP supports in Florida.

    Trump will likely win Florida, it was 2% more GOP than the nation in 2012 and it went for Bush Snr in 1992
    Trump is a good fit for Florida, and Kasich in Ohio, but I don't think that they can win both.
    Only if Trump and Kasich are on the same ticket, which I think is unlikely.
    Indeed and Trump will not do that while Hillary could lose both and still win if she wins Virginia and Nevada
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    Rubio drops out.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    Interesting, it appears Apple iCloud wasn't "hacked" as first thought...it was celebs falling for phishing scams.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35817814
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    AndyJS said:

    Rubio suspends campaign.

    Speedy said:

    Rubio drops out.

    RodCrosby said:

    SUSPENDED.

    Well that's a 25% return from Hills...
  • tpfkar
    tpfkar Posts: 1,578
    edited March 2016
    Impressed with Sky News, Rubio used the phrase "campaign is suspended" and half a second later it was the caption on the screen. Some fast fingers there.

    It's an odd speech, a bit of everything, rowdy crowd pleasing, self-criticism, big vision, church sermon, not quite sure where it's going. Perhaps to end in a rendition of My Way?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Rubio has now suspended his campaign
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Have all the Sanders supporters gone and supported Kasich ? :D
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838
    Rubio setting
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    AndyJS said:

    Rubio suspends campaign.

    Speedy said:

    Rubio drops out.

    RodCrosby said:

    SUSPENDED.

    Well that's a 25% return from Hills...
    Congrats.
  • Wanderer
    Wanderer Posts: 3,838
    tpfkar said:

    Perhaps to end in a rendition of My Way?

    That would have been so great.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,722
    edited March 2016
    Rubio-bot appears to have had a software update. They have tweaked the emotio package, but it does still seem to be bugged with repetition problems.
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