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Shortly after Ed Miliband was elected LAB leader in September 2010 some bright spark set up a website devoted to pictures of the opposition leader looking awkward.
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ie miles more electable than Corbo...
Was known as the Tory MP for Johannesburg North
Scottish Labour have imploded even more since May. Their leader is poor and routinely gets slapped about at FMQs. Albeit that's outwith the public ken but she isn't known and isn't visible ANYWHERE else. At least Ruthie gets pictures riding tanks or feeding journalists Soleros.
All this before the infighting has even started. They currently have 106 candidates fighting it out for perhaps 16 to 20 List Seats. There will be dirty tricks and it will further damage Labour.
Not to mention Labour's paws being all over the Forth Road Bridge problems. Often due to their own inept attempts to smear the SNP.
Oh yes Moazzem Begg...he's just a poor boy, nobody loves him, he's just a poor boy, running an Islamic Bookshop...who has also been a Jahadi, attended training camps, etc etc etc and now is involved in CAGE.
Again just terribly unlucky bloke. Wrong place, wrong time. How was he to know that so many of his friends are Islamic extremists and that the Taliban could be a bit naughty.
And last week, some f##king idiot judge released Amram Choudary AGAIN on bail, after being re-arrested for breaking his BAIL.
ISIS must think we are totally bonkers and a load of bed wetters when they read this stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTE6cTBrGcA
Pains me to say it but he is either a genius or very lucky, more likely both
FPT, and apologies for going off topic.
Clearly, there can be no justification for avoiding English criminal law, or attempting to oust the jurisdiction of an English court.
However, plenty of people will submit to arbitration, as an alternative to litigation. And, plenty of people consider themselves bound by moral laws, which are not part of the secular legal system. There is nothing in law to prevent a Jewish woman from applying to our family courts for a divorce, maintenance, or the custody of children. But, she may still feel bound by her own moral laws to get a religious divorce.
The same thing happens quite a lot on the Continent, in those countries where legal marriage is completely separated from religious marriage. People may be married in the eyes of the secular law, but not according to Catholic canon law. And, they may be married in the eyes of the Catholic church, but not in the eyes of the secular law.
There are also uncanny similarities between Paul Staines & Damien McBride.
#justsayin'
Well English teams involvement in the Champions League will be done and dusted very early (AGAIN) this year .
If the chum of low tax paying big businesses, greedy banks and property spivs is at the helm, and Corbyn gone, they'll lose big at the next election and rightly so.
The loathsome creature is no friend of the traditional Tory voter.
One can easily see how a young woman could arrive from another country, and be told by her elders and religious leaders that their community only "accepts" ruling by the irregular courts, and that is would bring great shame on the community to be seen to make a fuss outside their community, it's possible threats might be made in this regard, quietly and out of the public eye, they might also conspire along with other members of her community to not mention the alternatives.
There is nothing in particular that is good bad or indifferent in Osborne that separates him from 99% of other politicians.
Unlike Miliband however he has found time to register the births of his children. Miliband's awkwardness was more than skin deep.
The Tories want to scrap ECHR so they can IMPOSE SHARIA LAW!
I am tempted but, jeez, betting on the Scottish Tories...
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"The crash, the parliamentary expenses scandal and the popular turn against immigration have drained all confidence from the establishment, which has slumped from irrational exuberance to the vigilance of hypochondriacs in under a decade. Whether they deserve to or not, they should relax. Anti-establishment politics is a paper tiger. Britons vent in local and European elections but, when they have to choose a government or settle an existential question in a referendum, they vote with colder blood than we credit. Their livelihoods are at stake in a way the livelihoods of mobile, resilient elites seldom are.
There is something else — nearer to aesthetic taste than risk calculation. Britons dislike the establishment but not as much as they dislike people who rant about the establishment. Withholding trust from MPs and fat cats is only natural; defining your worldview against them smells too much like zealotry."
I'm no Tory but, given the way Conservatives choose their leaders, it's going to be very hard to keep Osborne out of the contest and out of the final two to go to the membership.
The question then becomes Osborne vs ? - Johnson, May, Hammond, Clarkson, A.N Other or S.O Else ? The membership may not be as easy an electorate to manipulate as the parliamentary party and it's purely for that reason Osborne isn't a shoo-in.
This would be the first time the Conservatives have chosen their leader whilst in office under the post-Hague reforms so in effect the electorate of the Conservative membership will be choosing the Prime Minister. I'm sure whomsoever succeeds Cameron will have the difficult balancing act of continuity vs reward (keep the good Cabinet Ministers while promoting your friends and favourites).
Unlike in 1990, there's no clear evidence any other candidate would do as well if not better than the current incumbent (and some evidence one or two prospective candidates might do a good deal worse) but there's nobody arguing Cameron should run and win the 2020 GE and stand down immediately afterward.After all, it's the defeated who quit after the election, not the victorious.
Brown spent a decade publicly and privately undermining his PM. Osborne has been very loyal.
Brown inherited a golden economic legacy and squandered it, Osborne inherited an absolute mess and is slowly but surely fixing it.
Really the comparison is puerile.
@PickardJE: Can't help noticing that the traffic light is set to RED @MartinHoscik @robindepeyer Whatever that means.
GOWNBPL.
But more to the point, I don't think they will choose him unless he can manoeuvre so as to get into the last two against someone clearly inadequate.
From the position of incumbency they won a decade ago the SNP have built themselves as the new Scottish establishment. It isn't anti-establishment politics, it is just a change in establishment.
If we look at budgets, Osborne is very Brownian in his presentation. Rarely are things as they seem and many decisions are not made for the right reasons. He has also kicked tough decisions into the long grass, rather continually concentrating on short term-ish.
In terms of the recovery, the UK has gone pretty well, but cuts are nowhere near as large as spun and we are again stoking up house price inflation as a source of wealth and no sign of the march of the makers / Northern Powerhouse.
I could go on....Is Osborne as bad a chancellor as Brown, no. Is he very Brownian, yes, although I would say it is a combination of Brown + Mandelson. And the public reaction to him is very similar.
I think the similarity ends there - one is a total scumbag who sought to smear opponents with lies, the other is a great example of freedom of speech and holding the executive to account in a democracy.
He (or someone else) may be made tory leader before the election... but would he or they become PM straight away? We have a fixed term parliament now.
He or whoever may be elected leader in October or November 2019. But Cameron may stay as PM and one way or another go to the Palace on 8 May 2020 to recommend a new PM.
To give one example... The USA manages for 2 to 3 months with an outgoing President before the new one is sworn in.
BTW - we are still in 2015. May 2020 is an awful long way away. Only PBers could be obsessing about what might happen on October 2019.
But that is more or less the point of these 'courts' isn't it? Why would they exist except to try to impose another set of values than those which English or Scottish law enshrine?
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But this site has big selection to choose from...
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Their paws are all over the Forth Road Bridge. They know it. They even tried to smear the SNP with an email to Scottish Labour Councillor without even trying to explain why the Scottish Labour Councillor did nothing (perhaps because the email didn't ask for anything to be done, it's just comedy).
SLAB must know that there will be reams of damaging releases about their cancellation of a new bridge, their opposition to a new bridge and their attempts to block a new bridge in the Minority parliament.
It's almost as if Scottish Labour played a bluff when it was blindingly obvious to everyone that the bluff would be called.
FPT: Miss Cyclefree, I remember being taught at school that charity was largely poor people in rich countries giving to rich people in poor countries.
Do right-wing bloggers have nothing better to do than comment on Corbyn's cards ?
Crap career choice then, George!
*looks at betting slips* The new Tory leader won't be Osborne or Johnson.
But with a small "c"......
If you gamble, the T&Cs of your contract with your bookmaker - when you open your account - will require you to renounce all ability to use the UK legal system to pursue claims. Instead, you need to use IBAS. (Or whatever it's called.)
The Beth Din and Sharia courts are similar. They have no juristiction over people who do not sign their rights over to them. (And if you are happy to accept binding arbitration of IBAS or a Beth Din or a Sharia court, surely that's your concern.)
More fundamentally, there are two separate issues here:
1. Are people being pressured into accepting the jurisdiction of these institutions?
2. Is there anything specifically about religious "courts" that makes them more onerous than civil ones?
With a minority of one.
It seems so stupid today. So full of hubris and a marked underestimation of the ability of the SNP to do (at least) a reasonable job. Or perhaps they genuinely over-estimated their own abilities and Labour thought they actually did a good job which could not be matched.
For want of a vote**, a seat was lost,
For want of a seat, an election was lost,
For want of an election, a parliament was lost,
For want of a parliament, a nation was lost.
** technically, IIRC, it was 72 votes in the closest seat.
It may not be the dumbest decision of all time. But for extinguishing of the United Kingdom, it was certainly the most important. 37 people, decided the fate of the UK.
2. Yes. We are talking about attempts by certain communities to bypass UK and EU Law of human rights, in order to control people who have little or no understanding of the British legal system. That is disgraceful in a Western democracy. Comparisons to eg a contract between a British company and a French company being subject to French law or arbitration is disengenuous.
Labour's failure was a refusal to commission the new bridge during their time in office when it was clearly needed.
2. Yes. We are talking about attempts by certain communities to bypass UK and EU Law of human rights, in order to control people who have little or no understanding of the British legal system. That is disgraceful in a Western democracy. Comparisons to eg a contract between a British company and a French company being subject to French law or arbitration is disengenuous.'
To be fair, these are not easy things to get your head around from a narrow, middle-class liberal perspective.
There is of course another point too - before long these courts are going to start trespassing into areas of criminal law as well. I wonder how white liberals will rationalise that.
In 2006 when the clamour for a new bridge was getting impossible to ignore, SLAB returned £1.5bn to the UK Treasury unspent as they could not find any projects to use the money on.
Right 789,
Left 551,
FN 356,
Corsican Nationalists 24.
This compares with 2010,
Left 1,177
Right 511,
FN 116,
Other 43
The Liberal councillor who was chair of FETA said that no work was required at the time.
...and there was much rejoicing...
Source please, because it's fairly clear it was not: the maintenance was made to fit the budget, not vice versa.
Sturgeon's and MacKay's fingerprints are the ones Dair should be commenting on. The paper trail is available, we don't need to wait to see what MacKay will show - nearly everything has already been leaked. SNP votes are dying out in Fife and Lothians as people realise the danger the SNP were gambling their lives away with.
As for Boswell, well, until someone found his personal company accounts and published them, he was pretty safe - now the HMRC and Parliamentary Standards are going to be looking a little closer at him, and gossip is going around that there may just be a few more juicy details still to come out (his local party did not want him to represent them, obviously they knew more about him)- which leaves Thomson.
Sturgeon, as a lawyer with even small experience of conveyancing saw within seconds the game was up and dealt with it swiftly. Thomson is not in trouble about double dealing house sellars although that is morally unacceptable, she is though, in with the banks and building societies who were provided details of the mortgage requests. Once maybe an error, 13 times does look rather suspicious.
Salmond's visit to Holyrood (yes, he is still an MSP as well as an MP) the other day was not only to remind people (Nats) that he is still alive. We are waiting for another version of the "if nominated I'll decline. If drafted I'll defer. And if elected I'll resign," before we see him take up the baton, leading the SNP into the election battle next year, should Nicola be forced from the FM hot seat.
Rather than the Labour party collapsing, it is actually the SNP which have the greater problems.
Unfortunately they seem more interested in Shaker Ahmer and the massive legal aid involved in trying to prevent the UK deporting terrorist sympatisers.