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You mean like WMD's or a couple of toerags threatening us from thousands of miles away. LOL.Cromwell said:The electorate are tolerant but they will not tolerate a threat to national security and that is how the Tories are going to present him ...the Panorama expose is just a mere hint of what is to come ...Corbyn is just too old and set in his ways to ever change , even if he wished to ..he's just two dimensional , too ''authentic '' too much convictions ...I expect him to be forced to resign within a few months
Hard to believe the armchair right wing philosophers on here predicting his doom , a good laugh though.0 -
I think he has to double down and continue to be himself, within reason and civility. It would be impolite to turn up at the Cenotaph in a vest so I'm sure he won't, but in general people who feel negative about anti-politicians will not be impressed if he starts to dress like an ambitious SPAD.david_herdson said:
The PPE clones in suits are a symptom, not the disease itself. Corbyn in a suit would still fail but his refusal to fit the image of a politician will reinforce the negative opinion of people who want and expect politicians to look like, well, politicians.Jonathan said:PB spends a good proportion of it's time complaining about careerist PPE clones in smart but empty suits dominating politics.
Then the moment something different crops up, it complains about the lack of said smart empty suit.
That said, one has to draw the line somewhere. There was a period early in the 1997 Parliament when I was seriously in the red for family reasons and economised on clothes etc. I remember Lindsay Hoyle, who isn't really a fashion idol, taking me to one side and saying sorry mate - personal austerity is good but you're overdoing it a bit, I can recommend you someone who'll fix that hole in your shoe cheaply. :-)0 -
£4Bn of Scotch exports pa would suggest you are talking mince.malcolmg said:
Because it sucksTOPPING said:
Why is the left against Globalisation?Innocent_Abroad said:
Please explain why that is not a racist remark. Or perhaps you're like Da'esh - you think your own people better than others.Sean_F said:
Patriotism is an extension of kinship. Decent people care for their kin, and want to hand on a decent place to live to their issue.Innocent_Abroad said:
How is "the same true of patriotism"? Are politicians parents and voters children?Luckyguy1983 said:
Loving one's children is not morally wicked, it is an essential part of the continuation of the species. It doesn't just involve partiality to ones own offspring either, it involves taking responsibility for them, nurturing them and at times chastising them, ensuring they achieve their full potential. The same is true of patriotism. Your attitude shows exactly why leftism is a disease on the body politic.SouthamObserver said:
I agree it's not a virtue, but it is a commonly-held feeling, and generally a very positive one - except when it develops into nationalism. Corbyn doesn't feel it and is not capable of pretending to. His world view is very different to most people's.Innocent_Abroad said:
Patriotism is not a virtue. It is simply an extension of the morally wicked practice of preferring one's own children to other people's.SouthamObserver said:Corbyn is unpatriotic. The hard left does not see the world as a collection of nations. It sees it only in terms of class.
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One day, when the kids are away for the night and I don't have any urgent DIY that needs doing, then I may get the chance to sit down and play that game.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Jessop, good quality analysis of the sartorial requirements of the zombie apocalypse.
Ever played The Last Of Us? I realise you probably have sod all time on your hands right now, but it's a fantastically good game [arguably the best ever made].
From what I've seen of it, it looks right up my street.
*The last game I had the time to sit down and finish was Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem.
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Have you been watching the Ultimate Challenge [I think that's the title] on BBC2?
Those volunteers really do like punishment.JosiasJessop said:
The shoulder padding might stop chaffing when using a shoulder-mounted RPG, and the elbow pads would also be more comfortable when shooting from a prone position.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Jessop, you've failed to address the substantive point. Would donkey jackets be appropriate for a zombie apocalypse?
And the bulk of the jacket could hide lots of spare weapons and ammo. So, for winter, it'd be good.0 -
No, but I've heard good things about it. But as you say, I have precious little time even to play Elite, which is my game of choice atm.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Jessop, good quality analysis of the sartorial requirements of the zombie apocalypse.
Ever played The Last Of Us? I realise you probably have sod all time on your hands right now, but it's a fantastically good game [arguably the best ever made].0 -
On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
Beverley C..Maybe she has been trying to get onto the local Labour Party committee0
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This is a very attractive case for Brexit from Dan Hannan:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11644904/A-vision-of-Britain-outside-the-EU-confident-successful-and-free.html0 -
Bizzare article by Fraser. Labour's ritualistic self-destruction holds no policy lessons for the Conservatives political course. Other than the Tories must stay competent and professional, continue with their manifesto, avoid hubris and sneering and jeering too much.Plato said:
But this is part of the reason why I haven't been cheering on Conservatives who voted for Corbyn: be careful what you wish for.0 -
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
Nick- when I helped out in Broxtowe you were wearing an exceptionally nice suit. Even after you got drenched the suit managed to be impervious to it all.NickPalmer said:
I think he has to double down and continue to be himself, within reason and civility. It would be impolite to turn up at the Cenotaph in a vest so I'm sure he won't, but in general people who feel negative about anti-politicians will not be impressed if he starts to dress like an ambitious SPAD.david_herdson said:
The PPE clones in suits are a symptom, not the disease itself. Corbyn in a suit would still fail but his refusal to fit the image of a politician will reinforce the negative opinion of people who want and expect politicians to look like, well, politicians.Jonathan said:PB spends a good proportion of it's time complaining about careerist PPE clones in smart but empty suits dominating politics.
Then the moment something different crops up, it complains about the lack of said smart empty suit.
That said, one has to draw the line somewhere. There was a period early in the 1997 Parliament when I was seriously in the red for family reasons and economised on clothes etc. I remember Lindsay Hoyle, who isn't really a fashion idol, taking me to one side and saying sorry mate - personal austerity is good but you're overdoing it a bit, I can recommend you someone who'll fix that hole in your shoe cheaply. :-)0 -
Her point is valid, LinkedIn is supposed to be for establishing business networks and commercial partnerships, but all I ever got from it was recruitment companies and multi-level marketers trying to get me to "connect" to their business. The number of genuine connections was drowned out by the noise.foxinsoxuk said:Ms Proudman makes an interesting distinction. Linkedin for professional purposes, Facebook for social things.
I joined it way back in the early 2000s when it seemed to be useful but about 2 or 3 years ago I had had enough and deleted my account. These days, it is a waste of space like most social media.
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I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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As long as people are clean generally, and exercise sensibly I couldn't care less about what they wear. I guess that's why I could never be a politician, or many other things.
Maybe this shows my ignorance, but did his "donkey jacket" have a patch on one shoulder for hod carrying? That would have added to its utility.0 -
My wife came home after a management change, complaining that the new boss wore cheap, plastic shoes. Sure enough he turned out to be a disaster and she left shortly after.Beverley_C said:
On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
Any form of stout, and preferably waterproof, boot will do.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.
Timberland are a good solid choice.
I've currently got a good pair of North Face walking shoe that'll do at a pinch.0 -
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Beverley C..Maybe she has been trying to get onto the local Labour Party committee
I hope she finds some kindred spirits there because apparently LinkedIn is not the place.... 0 -
I agree. Satin is far superior ....Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
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Plato..Silk..I was thinking there might just be some Fashionistas lurking deep within his entourage..of both sexes.. maybe for the occasional swish around the miners lamp lit darkened bedroom..one must be egalitarian..0
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Mr. Barber, must admit I've never heard of that. Anyway, I do recommend you play it.0
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The prosecution rests M'Lud .....tyson said:My wife came home after a management change, complaining that the new boss wore cheap, plastic shoes. Sure enough he turned out to be a disaster and she left shortly after.
Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.
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Me neither. The odd idiot in the 80/90s but not in years since.
BTW - did you see the Louis Louboutin docu on More4? Now those are shoes.Beverley_C said:
I read that article and I came across this bit near the bottom: "... in a blog on the left-wing website Left Foot Forward, Ms Proudman wrote: 'The crux of the matter is that men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman's clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter."Plato said:She's been marvellously monstered by the Mail today - serves her right.
I find that view of the world completely alien. Perhaps, due to her work, she sees the worst side of humanity, but most men I have come across are not even remotely close to fitting that profile.0 -
I prefer desert boots - softer than Martens and more stylish.
Does anyone wear Chelsea boots nowadays? Personally I think they're hideous - but there were the in male footware in the 70s.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
Anyway, calling our Punters out there.....if Jowell wins the London nomination, what would you suggest? Would it be worth a shifty late punt on Yvette?
When I was walking Trosky this morning it occurred to me that there could be a silent majority in the Labour membership. And all the fascination with Corbyn could have hardened them (under the radar of the polls), much like the SNP meme worked for the Tories.0 -
Beverley C..Satin may be made from silk. but pure silk comes from the hardworking and underprivileged silk worms and their industrial endeavours must be appreciated and encouraged until the proletariat demand enough and stop their exploitation by the global conglomerates and capitalist masters and cease production altogether... gather ye silk worms whilst ye may..then they all die of course..but justice will be served..0
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Cheap shoes really are a false economy, a decent, moderately expensive pair will last for years, requiring occasional re-soling and heeling.0
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I've been wearing flip flops since May. I drive in bare feet. It'll be a shock to the system to have to resort to proper foot wear come winter.Plato said:
I prefer desert boots - softer than Martens and more stylish.
Does anyone wear Chelsea boots nowadays? Personally I think they're hideous - but there were the in male footware in the 70s.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
Satin is a total bugger to tailor though. The way the bits slip about and refuse to move as the fabric has such a direction.
I gave in decades ago - handstitching was the only answer.Beverley_C said:
I agree. Satin is far superior ....Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
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Who would you define as being seen to be rank rotten and be elected PM by the public?malcolmg said:
Who knows what will happen, most people are really hacked off with politician's and it is not inconceivable that lots of the people will take the hump with the Tories as they go ever more right wing. As we have seen with others you can be rank rotten and still make PM, the public are fickle and people are unsettled.TwistedFireStopper said:I must be a terrible person. I'm fiercely patriotic and in a zombie apocalypse, I'd trip someone else's kids up, so that mine could escape!
On topic. Corbyn will only be a disaster for Labour if the Blairites and centre left decide to cause problems. Of course he's unelectable, but it must be possible for the PLP to grit their teeth and work with him, and tread water to get past 2020 and then elect someone more creditable.
It will be difficult. The press will slaughter him, and PMQs will be tasty. I just hope the Southam Observer wing of the party can pick up the pieces after 2020, or before if it all implodes early.
Blair and Cameron were not seen up front as rank rotten. Blair maybe now but in 1997 he was Teflon Tony.
Brown was always rank rotten but he never won an election either. Corbyn can't inherit the Premiership like Brown did.0 -
Plato..Chelsea |Boots..Called Beatles here.. I have two pairs..one Brown and one Black..good with jeans..Church,s...I also have a fully fur lined pair of Panama Jacks..for those cooler moments..0
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Ms C,
"The crux of the matter is that men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman's clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter."
I think she's confusing it with my local rugby club.
Easy mistake to make if she has already made up her mind.
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No I missed that. I could never justify that sort of money for shoes that look like one night out would be all they could stand. I would be more tempted to follow the example of that woman some years ago who painted the bottoms of her shoes with red paint.Plato said:BTW - did you see the Louis Louboutin docu on More4? Now those are shoes.
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Dan Hannan has written the books about a positive vision for Britain outside the EU, he's been thinking it through for years and will be a huge asset to the Leave campaign. He's also a very articulate public speaker.JEO said:This is a very attractive case for Brexit from Dan Hannan:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11644904/A-vision-of-Britain-outside-the-EU-confident-successful-and-free.html0 -
That sounds like an accurate description of 1st century Rome, but a bizarre description of the modern UK.Plato said:Me neither. The odd idiot in the 80/90s but not in years since.
BTW - did you see the Louis Louboutin docu on More4? Now those are shoes.Beverley_C said:
I read that article and I came across this bit near the bottom: "... in a blog on the left-wing website Left Foot Forward, Ms Proudman wrote: 'The crux of the matter is that men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman's clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter."Plato said:She's been marvellously monstered by the Mail today - serves her right.
I find that view of the world completely alien. Perhaps, due to her work, she sees the worst side of humanity, but most men I have come across are not even remotely close to fitting that profile.
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Absolutely. Cheap shoes can do huge damage to your feet. And, leather shoes are essential in hot weather, so that your feet can perspire.blackburn63 said:Cheap shoes really are a false economy, a decent, moderately expensive pair will last for years, requiring occasional re-soling and heeling.
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How grim, but if the silkworms pop their clogs then polyester can make some wonderful fabrics for those of us who appreciate such things. As for the proles.... well, there is always burlap....richardDodd said:Beverley C..Satin may be made from silk. but pure silk comes from the hardworking and underprivileged silk worms and their industrial endeavours must be appreciated and encouraged until the proletariat demand enough and stop their exploitation by the global conglomerates and capitalist masters and cease production altogether... gather ye silk worms whilst ye may..then they all die of course..but justice will be served..
Onwards and upwards comrades
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In this age of austeritylite and conscious of "us all in it together" I have endeavoured in vain to recommend to Mrs JackW footwear with a high degree of durability and functionality and without all the base frippery of fashion.Plato said:I prefer desert boots - softer than Martens and more stylish.
Does anyone wear Chelsea boots nowadays? Personally I think they're hideous - but there were the in male footware in the 70s.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.
Utter failure beckoned and was not to be denied !!
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A veritable Eutopia.JEO said:This is a very attractive case for Brexit from Dan Hannan:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11644904/A-vision-of-Britain-outside-the-EU-confident-successful-and-free.html0 -
Jelly shoes are the work of the devil.
Revolting looking and halves the wearer's IQ.Sean_F said:
Absolutely. Cheap shoes can do huge damage to your feet. And, leather shoes are essential in hot weather, so that your feet can perspire.blackburn63 said:Cheap shoes really are a false economy, a decent, moderately expensive pair will last for years, requiring occasional re-soling and heeling.
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Actually, in my experience, the bigger the bloke the gentler he usually is. It is the 5ft ones with a Napoleon complex that I worry aboutCD13 said:Ms C,
"The crux of the matter is that men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman's clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter."
I think she's confusing it with my local rugby club.
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I remain hopeful!tyson said:Anyway, calling our Punters out there.....if Jowell wins the London nomination, what would you suggest? Would it be worth a shifty late punt on Yvette?
When I was walking Trosky this morning it occurred to me that there could be a silent majority in the Labour membership. And all the fascination with Corbyn could have hardened them (under the radar of the polls), much like the SNP meme worked for the Tories.0 -
Exactly. I have always maintained that strappy sandals and slingbacks let the air circulate and keep smells and fungi at bay.Sean_F said:
Absolutely. Cheap shoes can do huge damage to your feet. And, leather shoes are essential in hot weather, so that your feet can perspire.blackburn63 said:Cheap shoes really are a false economy, a decent, moderately expensive pair will last for years, requiring occasional re-soling and heeling.
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In fairness In my misspent youth there was some of the fights, sexism and banter. Now, only banter remains, god bless it.CD13 said:Ms C,
"The crux of the matter is that men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman's clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter."
I think she's confusing it with my local rugby club.
Easy mistake to make if she has already made up her mind.
However, her remarks seem to hark back to a bygone, now mostly vanished age. Of course, who knows what its like on the mean streets of London; I'm a confirmed provincial these days.0 -
The Mongols wore a silk vest under their armour. If pierced by an arrow, the arrow was wrapped around by the silk, making it far easier to remove without causing the often-fatal tissue damage.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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I am sure that Jezza will be opposed to the cruelty of sericulture. The Human League were forthright on the subject back in the day:Beverley_C said:
How grim, but if the silkworms pop their clogs then polyester can make some wonderful fabrics for those of us who appreciate such things. As for the proles.... well, there is always burlap....richardDodd said:Beverley C..Satin may be made from silk. but pure silk comes from the hardworking and underprivileged silk worms and their industrial endeavours must be appreciated and encouraged until the proletariat demand enough and stop their exploitation by the global conglomerates and capitalist masters and cease production altogether... gather ye silk worms whilst ye may..then they all die of course..but justice will be served..
Onwards and upwards comrades
https://youtu.be/CNrnmDmffRc0 -
Newstatesman saying both Tessa and Khan claiming victory0
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A pb thread on shoes and silk v satin.... You can tell there isn't much going on in politics right now.0
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PB has always known Sean Fear was into leather ....Sean_F said:
Absolutely. Cheap shoes can do huge damage to your feet. And, leather shoes are essential in hot weather, so that your feet can perspire.blackburn63 said:Cheap shoes really are a false economy, a decent, moderately expensive pair will last for years, requiring occasional re-soling and heeling.
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You should be cautious of that Lilico chap...Plato said:0 -
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I draw the line at men in flip flops. Clogs yes, flip flops - nope.
I also drive in bare feet, and rarely wear shoes at all unless it's too painful not to/going into shops.
Never wore them as a kid either and the habit stuck. Still love them though.tyson said:I've been wearing flip flops since May. I drive in bare feet. It'll be a shock to the system to have to resort to proper foot wear come winter.
Plato said:I prefer desert boots - softer than Martens and more stylish.
Does anyone wear Chelsea boots nowadays? Personally I think they're hideous - but there were the in male footware in the 70s.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
As every woman knows, shoes make the outfit.0 -
New poll:
PEOPLE opposed to assisted suicide are still absolutely convinced it is any of their business, according to a new survey.
The poll asked, ‘Someone you don’t know with a horrible disease wants a close friend or relative to help them end their lives – what the fuck has it got to do with you?’.
According to the survey 11 percent said ‘a bit the fuck to do with me’, 30 percent said ‘a lot the fuck to do with me’ and 18 percent said that absolutely everything was their business all the time.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/opponents-of-assisted-suicide-still-convinced-its-any-of-their-business-201002012428
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So would you recommend a silk vest under the Donkey jacket? My Zombie apocalypse wardrobe only need appropriate trousers for completion...MarqueeMark said:
The Mongols wore a silk vest under their armour. If pierced by an arrow, the arrow was wrapped around by the silk, making it far easier to remove without causing the often-fatal tissue damage.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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How interesting. I watched a docu about silk in bullet/arrow proofing and with 6 layers - that'd stop a bolt.
Silk rugs are hard to beat for durability too.MarqueeMark said:
The Mongols wore a silk vest under their armour. If pierced by an arrow, the arrow was wrapped around by the silk, making it far easier to remove without causing the often-fatal tissue damage.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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Jim Pickard @PickardJE 11 mins11 minutes ago
Rightly or wrongly some of the rival camps believe Corbyn will get more than 70 per cent of support among new "registered supporters."0 -
Bloody lefties and prizes for all......rottenborough said:Newstatesman saying both Tessa and Khan claiming victory
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Your generous instincts overwhelmed your judgment, I think - I don't think anyone has ever complimented me on my dress sense, except my very first girlfriend, who was possibly deluded by love. A more typical response was the voter who said, "Look, I'm going to vote for you, but if you didn't look like a tramp it might help, eh?"tyson said:Nick- when I helped out in Broxtowe you were wearing an exceptionally nice suit. Even after you got drenched the suit managed to be impervious to it all.
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There's a video of the Cenotaph 1981 about 10 seconds into this. Even Maggie had to tug him into line. Poor bloke. He couldn't walk properly due to a near-fatal car smash in 1963, and was blind in one eye.Pro_Rata said:Michael Foot at the Cenotaph has some inexplicably totemic status in the in-laws household as the single most shocking political event of the last 40 years. In their version of events, he spent the entire time playing pocket billiards.
Having never seem the film of it myself - was he playing pocket billiards?
In any case, it looks they're going to be talking about Jezza for decades to come.
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*claps*Tissue_Price said:
New poll:
PEOPLE opposed to assisted suicide are still absolutely convinced it is any of their business, according to a new survey.
The poll asked, ‘Someone you don’t know with a horrible disease wants a close friend or relative to help them end their lives – what the fuck has it got to do with you?’.
According to the survey 11 percent said ‘a bit the fuck to do with me’, 30 percent said ‘a lot the fuck to do with me’ and 18 percent said that absolutely everything was their business all the time.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/opponents-of-assisted-suicide-still-convinced-its-any-of-their-business-2010020124280 -
Terence Stamp (not a material man at all - as far as I know, he doesn't even own a house) told me that his one great luxury is hand-made shoes. He had dozens of pairs, all beautifully tailored to his feet.
When he appeared in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert he spent weeks in extravagant (but crap quality) footwear. By the time he finished filming, his feet had been so bent out of shape that none of his hand-made shoes fitted....0 -
Actually Roger thought that you wore a suit very well- we had a brief conversation about it.
Thought you might be interested in this:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/778/720/415/
It is a very sad time when Americans are drawing up petitions about our cruelty to animals.NickPalmer said:
Your generous instincts overwhelmed your judgment, I think - I don't think anyone has ever complimented me on my dress sense, except my very first girlfriend, who was possibly deluded by love. A more typical response was the voter who said, "Look, I'm going to vote for you, but if you didn't look like a tramp it might help, eh?"tyson said:Nick- when I helped out in Broxtowe you were wearing an exceptionally nice suit. Even after you got drenched the suit managed to be impervious to it all.
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Mr. Mark, pb is imply following the Morris Dancer trend, after I tweeted yesterday that I know more about Roman military footwear than women's shoes
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If only you'd taken some fashion tips from TSE and hair husbandry advice from OGH then you might still be delighting us from the HoC and been able to nominate Jezza too.NickPalmer said:
Your generous instincts overwhelmed your judgment, I think - I don't think anyone has ever complimented me on my dress sense, except my very first girlfriend, who was possibly deluded by love. A more typical response was the voter who said, "Look, I'm going to vote for you, but if you didn't look like a tramp it might help, eh?"tyson said:Nick- when I helped out in Broxtowe you were wearing an exceptionally nice suit. Even after you got drenched the suit managed to be impervious to it all.
All for the sake of a reluctance to wear red shoes and a furry animal up top ....
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Are not all "registered supporters" new?Slackbladder said:Jim Pickard @PickardJE 11 mins11 minutes ago
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I had a lie in this morning.
"As the old maxim goes, you only get one opportunity to make a first impression, Corbyn should use it to make a positive impression to the wider electorate and not a controversial impression." TSE.
I think that TSE has fallen in love with Corbyn. Could he be vying for a new job as his dresser?0 -
FrankBooth said:
Bloody lefties and prizes for all......rottenborough said:Newstatesman saying both Tessa and Khan claiming victory
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I'm not sure that a Jowell victory would tell us much more than 1) she's been much more successful than Kendall in ensuring she's not defined as a Blairite; and 2) London Labour is a little less Corbynite than the rest of the country.tyson said:Anyway, calling our Punters out there.....if Jowell wins the London nomination, what would you suggest? Would it be worth a shifty late punt on Yvette?
When I was walking Trosky this morning it occurred to me that there could be a silent majority in the Labour membership. And all the fascination with Corbyn could have hardened them (under the radar of the polls), much like the SNP meme worked for the Tories.0 -
Eeewwwww!!!!foxinsoxuk said:
I am sure that Jezza will be opposed to the cruelty of sericulture. The Human League were forthright on the subject back in the day:
What an absolutely dreadful piece of music.
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Corbyn needs a Gannex raincoat! Don't see them too often now.0
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Yes, but if you call them havaianas instead of flip flops, they miraculously become fashionable again.Plato said:I draw the line at men in flip flops. Clogs yes, flip flops - nope.
I also drive in bare feet, and rarely wear shoes at all unless it's too painful not to/going into shops.
Never wore them as a kid either and the habit stuck. Still love them though.tyson said:I've been wearing flip flops since May. I drive in bare feet. It'll be a shock to the system to have to resort to proper foot wear come winter.
Plato said:I prefer desert boots - softer than Martens and more stylish.
Does anyone wear Chelsea boots nowadays? Personally I think they're hideous - but there were the in male footware in the 70s.foxinsoxuk said:
As a traditionalist I go for Doc Martens for a Zombie apocalypse, though German Paratrooper boots are a valid second choice. Any thoughts?Beverley_C said:On topic - clothes are important as people do judge by clothing. However I note that no one seems to have commented on what sort of shoes Mr Corbyn prefers.
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70% means at an absolute minimum 85,000 people in UK believe Corbyn should be Labour leader. 131 per constituency on average.david_herdson said:
Are not all "registered supporters" new?Slackbladder said:Jim Pickard @PickardJE 11 mins11 minutes ago
Rightly or wrongly some of the rival camps believe Corbyn will get more than 70 per cent of support among new "registered supporters."0 -
MM ..It might not seem like politics to you..but to a silk worm it is ..er...on the subject of flip flops and enclosed feet creating fungus,,the wily locals swear by Vicks Vapour Rub to kill off nail fungus...and it is cheaper than any of he other branded versions0
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UKIP National Conference 2015
UKIP returns to Doncaster Racecourse for our biggest conference yet from Thursday, September 24 - Saturday, September 26.
Following our great success at Doncaster last year we have decided to go back to this brilliant venue for this September’s annual party conference.
Having quadrupled our vote share in the General Election, and with the British people for the first time in 40 years being offered a referendum on membership of the European Union, there has never been a more exciting time to be a member and supporter of UKIP as we continue to lead the political debate in this country.
We hope you will join us to listen to a wide range of top speakers including some exciting invited guests who will all be making the case for the theme of this year's conference ‘Out of the EU and Into the World’. Please see ticket prices below. Further information regarding getting to conference, accommodation and the surrounding area will be available shortly.
Well you won't catch me going to Doncaster. A big mistake on venue, I believe. The conference should have been held in London, to show the world that UKIP is still alive.0 -
Surely the ultimate act of defiance towards the Zombie hordes would be a kilt?foxinsoxuk said:
So would you recommend a silk vest under the Donkey jacket? My Zombie apocalypse wardrobe only need appropriate trousers for completion...MarqueeMark said:
The Mongols wore a silk vest under their armour. If pierced by an arrow, the arrow was wrapped around by the silk, making it far easier to remove without causing the often-fatal tissue damage.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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Didn't Maggie tuck everyone into line?RodCrosby said:
There's a video of the Cenotaph 1981 about 10 seconds into this. Even Maggie had to tug him into line. Poor bloke. He couldn't walk properly due to a near-fatal car smash in 1963, and was blind in one eye.Pro_Rata said:Michael Foot at the Cenotaph has some inexplicably totemic status in the in-laws household as the single most shocking political event of the last 40 years. In their version of events, he spent the entire time playing pocket billiards.
Having never seem the film of it myself - was he playing pocket billiards?
In any case, it looks they're going to be talking about Jezza for decades to come.
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Well Corbyn will get an immediate pay rise and a nice new chauffeur driven car. So he ought to be able to afford a new suit and tie. But if he really believes in such things then why has he been wondering round the campaign trail dressed like a 3rd rate polytechnic lecturer?MikeK said:I had a lie in this morning.
"As the old maxim goes, you only get one opportunity to make a first impression, Corbyn should use it to make a positive impression to the wider electorate and not a controversial impression." TSE.
I think that TSE has fallen in love with Corbyn. Could he be vying for a new job as his dresser?0 -
Thanks, tyson, have signed and shared to Facebook. I personally persuaded the last Labour SoS responsible (Hilary Benn) of the scientific case against the cull (essentially that it speeds up badger movement and thereby spreads the disease if you kill badgers in selected areas) and was very sorry to see the idiotic policy reintroduced.tyson said:Actually Roger thought that you wore a suit very well- we had a brief conversation about it.
Thought you might be interested in this:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/778/720/415/
It is a very sad time when Americans are drawing up petitions about our cruelty to animals.0 -
I have always felt an instinctive contempt for fashion in that adhering to it is effectively allowing other people to dictate how we should appear. It would show strength of character to openly ignore it and to simply follow personal preferences. What would the reaction be if a party leader decided to dress like Neville Chamberlain by wearing an open tie collar?0
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Flightpath Would that be a 3rd rate Poly or a 3rd rate lecturer..or both0
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Do you have a position on sericulture? The Human League not withstanding...NickPalmer said:
Thanks, tyson, have signed and shared to Facebook. I personally persuaded the last Labour SoS responsible (Hilary Benn) of the scientific case against the cull (essentially that it speeds up badger movement and thereby spreads the disease if you kill badgers in selected areas) and was very sorry to see the idiotic policy reintroduced.tyson said:Actually Roger thought that you wore a suit very well- we had a brief conversation about it.
Thought you might be interested in this:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/778/720/415/
It is a very sad time when Americans are drawing up petitions about our cruelty to animals.
PS I thought you looked smart at the Broxtowe pub. Sadly cannot recall your shoes...0 -
So you agree with me that TSE should be Corbyns dresser?flightpath01 said:
Well Corbyn will get an immediate pay rise and a nice new chauffeur driven car. So he ought to be able to afford a new suit and tie. But if he really believes in such things then why has he been wondering round the campaign trail dressed like a 3rd rate polytechnic lecturer?MikeK said:I had a lie in this morning.
"As the old maxim goes, you only get one opportunity to make a first impression, Corbyn should use it to make a positive impression to the wider electorate and not a controversial impression." TSE.
I think that TSE has fallen in love with Corbyn. Could he be vying for a new job as his dresser?
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From the Snow intv on C4 - Corbyn doesn't appear to want his £139k salary, or a car or much else.flightpath01 said:
Well Corbyn will get an immediate pay rise and a nice new chauffeur driven car. So he ought to be able to afford a new suit and tie. But if he really believes in such things then why has he been wondering round the campaign trail dressed like a 3rd rate polytechnic lecturer?MikeK said:I had a lie in this morning.
"As the old maxim goes, you only get one opportunity to make a first impression, Corbyn should use it to make a positive impression to the wider electorate and not a controversial impression." TSE.
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Seriously WTF????SeanT said:lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.
A con artist knew the best way to scrounge money off Corbyn was to PRETEND to be an IRA bomber on the run.
I just..... no..I'm been dreaming for the last few months, I'll wake up and it'll be 3rd May or something in a minute or two.
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SeanT said:
lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.
A con artist knew the best way to scrounge money off Corbyn was to PRETEND to be an IRA bomber on the run.
twitter.com/JHunters_Corner/status/626672897164201984
Should we file what is happening to the Labour party under "Tragedy" or "Farce"?
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I think the difference is, the more you think about Michael Foot, while it is true his policies would have done great harm to the nation and its people, the man himself seemed to have been a thoroughly decent individual. One wonders how he would cope with the dichotomy that currently infects the left, between equality, human rights and peace, with the deep throating of islamicism by the Labour movement, and a willingness to turn a blind eye to the most appalling and thoroughly indecent behaviour both at home and abroad.RodCrosby said:
There's a video of the Cenotaph 1981 about 10 seconds into this. Even Maggie had to tug him into line. Poor bloke. He couldn't walk properly due to a near-fatal car smash in 1963, and was blind in one eye.Pro_Rata said:Michael Foot at the Cenotaph has some inexplicably totemic status in the in-laws household as the single most shocking political event of the last 40 years. In their version of events, he spent the entire time playing pocket billiards.
Having never seem the film of it myself - was he playing pocket billiards?
In any case, it looks they're going to be talking about Jezza for decades to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIxqSNgKmU
The Labour love affair with Islam and its nurturing as a voting block has caused great damage to the movement in the wider native population, and more recent immigrant groups who look on in horror.0 -
''lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.,,
Amazingly, Tim Montgomerie has actually written something interesting about what the tories will do.
http://www.capx.co/how-the-tories-will-take-on-corbyn/
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That is the best and most optimistic article I've ever read from an Out supporter.JEO said:This is a very attractive case for Brexit from Dan Hannan:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11644904/A-vision-of-Britain-outside-the-EU-confident-successful-and-free.html
Much more of that positive style and much less Farage negatives and I could be tempted to go for Out and I think Out could actually win.0 -
I'm currently reading a biography of Genghis Khan by Frank McGlynn. The Mongols wore armour, but the silk shirt was the final barrier. Both the Mongols and their enemies typically used poisoned arrows, so it was essential to draw the arrow out, with a minimum of damage.Plato said:How interesting. I watched a docu about silk in bullet/arrow proofing and with 6 layers - that'd stop a bolt.
Silk rugs are hard to beat for durability too.MarqueeMark said:
The Mongols wore a silk vest under their armour. If pierced by an arrow, the arrow was wrapped around by the silk, making it far easier to remove without causing the often-fatal tissue damage.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
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I saw that tweet at the time, and judged it not an opportune moment to retweet it or share it on here. Just in case anyone came to their senses.SeanT said:lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.
A con artist knew the best way to scrounge money off Corbyn was to PRETEND to be an IRA bomber on the run.0 -
Modern body armour works on the same principle as the 'catching of arrows' as outlined by Mark I think. Layers of kevlar material absorb the bullet by virtue of the weave or webbing of the material.Plato said:I do like silk, it's so versatile - but why anyone would have silk sheets is beyond me. All those creases. And totally unsuitable for warmer weather.
The history of silk in the development of bullet-proof vests is rather interesting.richardDodd said:The ubiquitous Donkey Jacket..the perfect silent protest garment...comes in all colours and fabrics as long as it is in black and made of wool or cotton..silk by special order...who,d a thunk it..
But are you referring to silk as an alternative to kevlar? It seems goats have been genetically engineered to produce the chemical constituents of spider silk, the resulting material is called Biosteel. A strand of Biosteel can be up to 20 times stronger than an equivalent strand of steel.
Chicken feathers are also a possibility. They are spinning them into cloth that is lightweight and very sturdy.Its thought that because the feathers have a fine honeycomb texture, they could be resistant to bullets.
Who'dathunkit.0 -
Corbyn is our king,SeanT said:lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.
A con artist knew the best way to scrounge money off Corbyn was to PRETEND to be an IRA bomber on the run.
https://twitter.com/JHunters_Corner/status/626672897164201984
Corbyn is our king,
He always lets the Tories in,
Corbyn is our king.0 -
Au contraire. Fashion is useful for exploring new trends, materials, colours and looks and taking those and adapting them to your personal style. It is also nice to change your wardrobe every so often for new colours or materials, but it pays to be choosy.justin124 said:I have always felt an instinctive contempt for fashion in that adhering to it is effectively allowing other people to dictate how we should appear.
Slavishly following fashion is for teenagers and early tweens.
For example, I know what looks good on me and what does not. You will never get me in an Empire Line simply because I know it will look rubbish on me, so even if they became the height of fashion I would not buy one.
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That's fair, but I do tend to think we've ended up with careerest PPE clones, or as I prefer to refer to them, identikit party automatons, because that is what has worked with the public. Those who break the mould in an interesting way are refreshing, and Corbyn's understated manner is also a little refreshing (not that much though, he's not that different), and of course perhaps those clones have reached the end of their effectiveness, but I think thepoint is correct that people expect leaders to be a bit different. We complain about them being boring, and all empty suits and the like, but it is also what we expect and someone has to be very good to be different and still seem like the right 'sort' to be PM.Jonathan said:PB spends a good proportion of it's time complaining about careerist PPE clones in smart but empty suits dominating politics.
Then the moment something different crops up, it complains about the lack of said smart empty suit.
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OMG! This should send jitters all trough the body politic; but I bet it won't. Nothing like the establishment for turning a blind eye at things they have no wish to see. Lets see if the BBC reports it....hoho!SeanT said:lol. Corbyn is so horrendously unfit to be LOTO it is now surreal.
A con artist knew the best way to scrounge money off Corbyn was to PRETEND to be an IRA bomber on the run.
https://twitter.com/JHunters_Corner/status/6266728971642019840 -
I still cannot beleive that Corbyn will win...
No group of people are that deluded. Are they?0 -
OMG! This should send jitters all trough the body politic;
Its worth remembering that many younger people did not live through the troubles and have no idea who the IRA are or what they are capable of in NI or on the British mainland.0 -
I think we all sympathised with Foots eyesight problem and his age. But his judgement in not even buttoning up this green coat and thus exposing a scruffy looking tweed non black tie was appalling.RodCrosby said:
There's a video of the Cenotaph 1981 about 10 seconds into this. Even Maggie had to tug him into line. Poor bloke. He couldn't walk properly due to a near-fatal car smash in 1963, and was blind in one eye.Pro_Rata said:Michael Foot at the Cenotaph has some inexplicably totemic status in the in-laws household as the single most shocking political event of the last 40 years. In their version of events, he spent the entire time playing pocket billiards.
Having never seem the film of it myself - was he playing pocket billiards?
In any case, it looks they're going to be talking about Jezza for decades to come.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIxqSNgKmU0
