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The big battle on Sunday trading was fought in the early 90s and the current arrangement under which the opening hours of large supermarkets was restricted to six hours was very much a compromise.
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I can't think of any better endorsement for this policy than that.
Mr. Eagles, are you suggesting One True Voice is not the Messiah?
FPT: Bit quiet, but those into motorsport might be interested in Rallycross. Saw a little last night (I was channel-hopping whilst waiting for news on the dog). Very short races, but quite exciting. It was on Quest (Freeview 37, give or take) about 8pm.
No betting opportunities, though.
When Hungary gets going, I'll check for No Safety Car. The Hungaroring is notable for being tedious, and also for having the fewest safety cars of any circuit. The track is wide, there's lots of run-off and the corners are medium speed which means overtaking/following is hard (decreasing car-to-car collisions) and the odds on a high speed crash into the barriers are long.
Safety Car isn't impossible, though, as reliability's a bit rubbish for some teams this year and a breakdown in certain areas would demand one. Uncertain if the Virtual Safety Car counts (there have been two this year but both occurred in races which also saw a real one emerge).
Some of his pieces/tweets before the election, confirmed that.
He's like a Tory Sion Simon.
And condolences on the news of your hound.
"Yes, she knows some people like to go to church and switch off but she thinks more flexible retail options will brighten up Sundays."
'Brighten up sundays' - make it a bit more convienient for people like me who sometimes fancy doing a bit of a shop at 7 pm on a Sunday but it's stretching the point to say it'll "brighten up a Sunday" doing a grocery shop !
I am in favour of the Tory proposal, mind.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11722536/Top-job-for-Jeremy-Corbyn-in-Labours-next-Shadow-Cabinet-in-bid-to-thwart-party-split.html
'Spy chiefs are warning that new and terrible atrocities are inevitable in the UK – and security services may not be able to stop them.
The dire warning comes as a Mirror survey reveals up to 1.5 million Britons could be supporters of Islamic State.
On the 10th anniversary of the 7/7 bombings highlights hardcore support for the terror network, with one in 11 Brits holding a “positive” view of the group.
But the disturbing poll of 2,016 British adults taken over the weekend also found support for the group was up 2% to 9%.
It found 3% have a “very favourable view”, up 1% from a year ago – suggesting around half of Britain’s three million Muslims could be IS sympathisers.'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-terror-attacks-inevitable-theres-6016015
"Indeed, only this morning Juncker wailed that he had "tried very hard. If only everybody else had tried as hard.""
Cameron was so right about that man.
He's probably against the spinning jenny, Uber and privatisation of British Airways.
Data tables aren't up yet.
But they also warned: "It would cause outrage among other MPs and probably see resignations from current Shadow Cabinet members.""
Field writes: “My constituents tell me that despite submitting a DS 1500 form drawing attention to a terminal illness, they have been asked directly to their face whether they think they will soon die and by what date they expect to be dead. In one case my constituent’s mother was asked by when she expected her daughter to die and in front of her daughter.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/06/terminally-ill-benefit-claimants-asked-when-they-expect-to-die-mp-says?CMP=share_btn_fb
Rather than Sunday shopping.
Back it but insist there is a carrot in there for the workers as a quid pro quo.
I expect Kendall will be in favour, and Corbyn against. Cooper's positioning will be interesting.
Tescos up here, like other main supermarkets, is open 24 hours 7 days a week. My favourite cheese shop is shut on both Sundays and Mondays. Each choice no doubt reflects the business model and choice of the proprietors. What has the law got to do with it?
If someone does not want to work Sundays then they need to get a job where that is not a part of the business model. Again, what does the law have to do with it?
Burnham is showing poor judgment here.
Tim Montgomerie ن ✔@montie
Embarrassing: Way too personal from Michael Fallon against Ed Miliband
To be serious it suggests that there isn't going to be much in the way of new thinking in his Labour Party. Has he even considered that the measure might give some extra hours or jobs for those who most need it? We do need some credible opposition - looks like it'll be down to the SNP.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11721480/Budget-2015-Shops-to-trade-for-longer-on-Sundays-under-radical-new-plans.html
Are you suggesting he's (to use a more up to date comparison) the Conservative Owen Jones?
No doubt the SNP will oppose this on the grounds that it is a convenient topic to legislate for a petty differential between Scotland and England.
https://www.gov.uk/trading-hours-for-retailers-the-law
It would be good to know what Andy Burnham thinks of them.
http://www.usdaw.org.uk/About-Us/News/2012/April/Usdaw-members-overwhelmingly-oppose-suspension-of
Remember, he was IDS' Chief of Staff when IDS was Tory leader, we all know what a halcyon period that was for the Tory party.
Montie too naive to figure this out.
I always think those survey should also contain a 'placebo' question:
"What do you think about the activities of the PTTQ group?"
Obviously, have "Don't know" as an answer. I would guess as many as a third of people would not admit ignorance, and would give a random answer.
Believe it or not, there is a substantial minority of people who don't actually know who ISIS is, and if asked would think it likely to be a shop or a charity. (There was a business called ISIS that rapidly rebranded itself).
When Hitchingbroke Hospital announced its return to the NHS Burnham's comment was along the lines of 'Our thoughts are with the staff at this difficult time'
Patients? What patients?
Andy Burnham is the slight favourite to become the next leader of the Labour party, as he is preferred by 15 per cent of people.
An Ipsos Mori poll shows that 14 per cent of British adults support Yvette Cooper as the next Labour leader - just one percentage point behind Burnham.
A fake candidate called "Stewart Lewis" was the preferred choice for three per cent of British adults and six per cent of Labour supporters.
http://tinyurl.com/BurnhamTheScouseEdMiliband
*his, of course, meaning Incitatus'.
The much bigger issue around supermarkets is the current wages subsidy the state currently provides them (and many other businesses, of course).
This is Mike's reply to a tweet showing Tom Watson is on course to become Deputy Leader
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/618344963835883520
'Shadow Chancellor ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11722536/Top-job-for-Jeremy-Corbyn-in-Labours-next-Shadow-Cabinet-in-bid-to-thwart-party-split.html
Burnham & Corbyn the ultimate dream team.
My local Tesco's hires a number of individuals that most other companies wouldn't touch, any time I do a full shop there you pass an employee with a disability (mental or physical) or Downs etc - we could do with less mocking of companies hiring unskilled workers for legal wages here. Blame the politicians for creating a mess of welfare, not companies.
'Well polls show backing for renationalisation of the railways and gas and electricity industries, it is not a minority view, even though I disagree with it'
With Corbyn part of Burnham's dream team they will definitely find a whole bunch of other stuff to nationalize as well.
It will make Ed look like a wimp.
We still have other absurdities such as limitations on when supermarkets can sell alcohol. They cope by closing the relevant aisles.
One of the more absurd examples is that we have been coming to the Metro Centre for a Christmas Shop/family weekend for over 20 years. Not being able to buy things until 11 on a Sunday just seems absurd, especially since I am always hankering to start the journey back north by mid afternoon. These days you are allowed to "look" and even queue at the tills but it is still annoying. It restricts the ability of these shops to attract the custom they need to survive, thrive and provide employment.
Money is not flowing from the state to them, it is entirely the other way around.
*innocent face*
I've often met non-Labour voters, especially women, who say they think it's a bit of a shame not to ensure that Sunday's a bit of a break from the normal hectic life. I don't think I've ever met a voter who said that this change was important to them, though of course if shops are open people will use them. It's not obvious that it will increase actual total purchases, so the economic benefits are unclear.
The current law as I understand it allows long opening hours for small shops - I doubt if those Tescos mentioned are Tesco Extras?
@Morris_Dancer, condolences on your loss.
There is not that much VAT on food.
Should sports centres, restaurants, pubs and petrol stations only open for a certain number of hours on a Sunday ?
Labour stuck in the '70s - blinded by their loyalty to the supply side.
More generally, it's amusing to see people call for less red-tape and/or more local decision making, and then oppose these when they are offered.
You think that I think that the only thing large supermarkets sell is food?
What I hope will happen tomorrow is that there will be a significant increase in the minimum wage with offsetting reductions in WTC and CTC so that more of the cost of labour falls on the person obtaining the benefit of it. WTC and CTC should also taper out at a lower level, possibly the current cap for benefits.
Tomorrow may well be the most important political event of this Parliament. It will set the agenda for a rebalancing of our economy onto a sustainable path and set the political context for political debate thereafter.
Of course, given the current mess in the EZ and the age of this recovery it is all too possible that the country will be blown off the path that Osborne will set. But tomorrow will fix the agenda and the future battlefields. I presume Hattie will be doing the reply.
Ask yourself, why Labour wasn't able to damage the Tories over the NHS during the election campaign.
I'll give you a clue, it was down in part to Labour's Shadow Health Secretary.
There will be plenty of small Co-op shops though, which gain (as our very local one does) from the local Morrisons shutting at 16.00 on Sundays. At 15.30 the car park is nearly empty; at 16.30 it is often full.
If the staff of a Co-op (Labour linked, of course) should be able to work for longer on Sundays, I think the Labour party should let people working for less (ahem) enlightened supermarkets do the same.
It's a anachronism. Plenty of other people have to work on Sundays; the task is ensuring that employers do not take the p*ss.
As an aside, a German friend of ours moved over here from Bavaria a few months back, and her first post was on how lovely it was to be able to go to the shops on a Sunday. If only because they arrived at their new house on a Sunday, and the hubby had forgotten to get any groceries.
Why can't John Lewis operate to the same hours if they choose ?
And, to be fair, Ed polled pretty well against the greatest Prime Minister of the 21st century. Shame the polling was wrong, but you can't have everything.
The Sunday Trading Act works: retailers can trade, customers can shop, shopworkers can spend time with families. Why change it?
Labour are a laughing stock.