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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Don Brind says Labour hopefuls know their party’s future isn’t in their hands

It’s one of the toughest gigs in politics – going on after TV after a defeat to explain that, really,  your party had done quite well in the circumstances.

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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,197
    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Stay safe bigjohn
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    BJO Head down.. stay quiet..
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    Keep safe Mr Owls, you're doing the right thing. Don't answer telephone or door to anyone until things calm down.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    CBS reports interior ministry saying 1 gunman dead, another "pursued". Stay barricaded.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,486
    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Live updates from Sky on the situation.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1508900/live-updates-brits-hiding-in-hotel-rooms
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.

    Thanks
  • DisraeliDisraeli Posts: 1,106
    Aljazeera reporting that one of the attackers was disguised as a policeman

    "One attacker had been killed by police and a search operation was ongoing, with reports that another attacker was involved.
    Ongoing exchanges of gunfire had earlier been reported between the attackers and security forces, sources told Al Jazeera.
    The attack was on the Imperial Marhaba hotel, local radio said, according to the Reuters news agency. Other reports indicated that two hotels may have been attacked."
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.

    Agreed. He's probably in for a long wait.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    The area seems to be flooded with Tunisian security forces, so perhaps 2nd wave is unlikely. But there is at least 1 gunman unaccounted for.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...

    Sorry, but bollocks.

    These things won't stop until the vast majority of moderate Muslims and imams do something about it within their own communities. Hopefully the fact that it's the middle of Ramadan might help, but I'm not holding anything crossed.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Can you access the minibar?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.

    Agreed. He's probably in for a long wait.
    Happy to wait as long as don't get the family killed
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...

    Really? He's been keener than some other world leaders to not deny that at times in the past at least. Shame. Terrible times.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.

    I understand, this is one thread I fully expect to be totally off topic, and I don't blame PBers for talking about only events in Tunisia.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    I wish the SNP might have a decline or at least a dip to dent their confidence, but it does seem a long way off at present. A Tory meltdown more probable before then, should either happen.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited June 2015
    bigjohnowls said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    Kind of want to suggest we concentrate on keeping John updated as best we can rather than launching into other less important matters.

    Agreed. He's probably in for a long wait.
    Happy to wait as long as don't get the family killed
    Yes, stay calm. It will take the security forces a long time to be absolutely sure they've got the situation fully under control and have neutralised the gunmen.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Head down.. stay quiet.

    Best advice yet, for now. - Not much more you can do Big John other than to stay put. – stay safe & hope you have bottled water to hand.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    A brief moment of levity on a pretty grim day:

    David McCann ‏@bighomeless

    "First time a person has been decapitated in France" sky report. Really Sky? Really??
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    Mr. Price, has Mr. Eagles become Sky's historical adviser?

    Still no updates since last time.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,197
    edited June 2015
    kle4 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...

    Really? He's been keener than some other world leaders to not deny that at times in the past at least. Shame. Terrible times.
    Yeap...it was literally the first thing he said in the press conference. Sajid Javid gets it, when previous attacks he said,

    ‘Lazy to claim French terror attacks nothing to do with Islam’
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,486
    Nothing new on the media at the moment John except the usual talking heads and background stuff. Someone here will let you know as soon as anything changes.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit
  • DisraeliDisraeli Posts: 1,106
    edited June 2015
    Just a week ago David Cameron was criticised for saying that some Muslims "quietly condoned" extreme views. Some thought that he'd gone too far, including Baroness Warsi in his own Party.

    A week really is a long time in politics.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    kle4 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...

    Really? He's been keener than some other world leaders to not deny that at times in the past at least. Shame. Terrible times.
    I think most people give him a pass on that as something that regrettably has to be said in order to cool potential reprisals in this country. I am sure that he is not as naive as that in practice, but there aren't any easy solutions here.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    John - what floor are you on?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,486
    By the way. Do I remember you being from Lincoln? If so i am just down the road so think I should be buying you a pint when you get home.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    John - what floor are you on?
    Don't send them my way but 3
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    I will buy you all lunch when you get back. As long as you stop calling Liz Kendall a witch, natürlich.

    Obviously it's a very stressful situation but you are absolutely doing the right thing in sitting tight.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    bigjohnowls said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    John - what floor are you on?
    Don't send them my way but 3
    OK, that's good.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    edited June 2015
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Price, has Mr. Eagles become Sky's historical adviser?

    Still no updates since last time.

    Behave yourself, my knowledge of France is vast and deep unlike you Mr Calais is in Normandy.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Tissue_Price said:

    kle4 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Well Cameron straight out of the gate with "nothing to do with Islam"....sighs...

    Really? He's been keener than some other world leaders to not deny that at times in the past at least. Shame. Terrible times.
    I think most people give him a pass on that as something that regrettably has to be said in order to cool potential reprisals in this country. I am sure that he is not as naive as that in practice, but there aren't any easy solutions here.
    Zero tolerance on exteme Islam is the only option. There is no middle ground or playing nicely or worrying about offending people which will work.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    bigjohnowls said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    John - what floor are you on?
    Don't send them my way but 3
    Chin up BJO - this may be your only opportunity to sign off as ‘your man on the spot’ :lol:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    I'm sure your lunch will be waiting for you, with extra champagne!

    No updates on news channels in last 5 mins, last report was of 2 gunmen, 1 dead and 1 fled, possibly dressed as tourist or policeman.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,800
    If this is ISIS or an ISIS backed group, then this is an act of war on the West.

    There's no other way this will work. We need to burn this cancer away.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Death toll still 27?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    There are still no reports of any hostage situations or any further attacks so it is looking likely that there won't be, but it will take a lot of time to be sure. It's good advice to stay calm and stay where you are. Definitely don't answer the room phone.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    Mr. Disraeli, Warsi's the epitome of what's wrong with tokenism.

    Mr. Eagles, that's geography, not history. My knowledge of France is very good [albeit two thousand years out of date].

    Mr. Slackbladder, that won't happen. A few weeks ago we had a potential PM shrieking about making Islamophobia a criminal offence.

    Mr. Owls, as Mr. Price said, it must be extremely frightening but staying put with your family is the right option. PB can provide you and them with a trustworthy link to the outside world, which (when the time comes) will also be very useful.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    I guess this is the hotel:

    http://uk.venere.com/ho458550/tunisia/el-kantaoui/clubhotel-riu-bellevue-park/

    3rd floor looks well protected from anything going on outside.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    bigjohnowls said:

    Death toll still 27?

    Some reports saying "dozens". Mostly brits and germans.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,271
    edited June 2015
    Slackbladder said:

    If this is ISIS or an ISIS backed group, then this is an act of war on the West.

    There's no other way this will work. We need to burn this cancer away.

    Well apparently they are now infiltrating the EU migrant boats sailing from Libya to Italy, those poor unfortunates we have to take our fair share of...
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Tissue_Price

    'I think most people give him a pass on that as something that regrettably has to be said in order to cool potential reprisals in this country. I am sure that he is not as naive as that in practice, but there aren't any easy solutions here.'

    Agree,he's trying to keep the lid on it knowing that most people's patience is now exhausted with this $hite.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    You could try to email or private tweet to the FCO. I'd have thought they"ll have someone on the ground by now.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,000
    bigjohnowls said:

    Death toll still 27?


    Yes. It has all gone quiet and repetitive on the news channels which might suggest that there is a major security operation ongoing to ensure that any potential gunman is accounted for but very little new is happening. This is obviously good news.

    Stay safe and still John. It is the only sensible thing to do at the moment.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 44,135
    BJO stay safe.

    Please be aware that depending on levels of coordination social media will be being monitored. Please do not give information on your own situation.

    Ideally function on receive only, from PB for example.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,862
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    I have missed my a all inclusive lunch.Pleas keep any. Updates on situation at Bellevue. Situation in our room is 3 of us scared to shit

    John - what floor are you on?
    Don't send them my way but 3
    OK, that's good.
    Probably not a good idea to post too much content of where John is on a public online forum. Very low risk, I very much doubt they follow pb, but still.

  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,700
    The number being reported on twitter has remained steady at 27 since around 1330BST.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    BJO, FYI
    British Embassy Tunis +216 71 108 700 BritishEmbassyTunis@fco.gov.uk
    Says on website it's closed Friday afternoons but possibly worth a try if you have a phone to hand.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    British nationals are been told to get in touch with the the British embassy in Tunisia
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    "Interior Ministry spokesman Mohammed Ali Aroui says the police operation to catch a second gunman behind the attack on the beach resort is ongoing and the exchange of fire is continuing, reports AP. He says one gunman behind "the terrorist attack was killed during an exchange of fire with security forces"."

    Source - BBC
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,998
    From the BBC:

    Interior Ministry spokesman Mohammed Ali Aroui says the police operation to catch a second gunman behind the attack on the beach resort is ongoing and the exchange of fire is continuing, reports AP. He says one gunman behind "the terrorist attack was killed during an exchange of fire with security forces".
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Stay safe Mr BJO.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Sandpit said:

    BJO, FYI
    British Embassy Tunis +216 71 108 700 BritishEmbassyTunis@fco.gov.uk
    Says on website it's closed Friday afternoons but possibly worth a try if you have a phone to hand.

    Ta
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Phones not working and don't want to use landline inn room for obvious reasons
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    bigjohnowls said:

    Phones not working and don't want to use landline inn room for obvious reasons

    Make sure you put the phones on silent.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,197
    edited June 2015
    BBC got Maajid Nawaz on, and of course he actually speaking the truth...nothing to do with Islam is nonsense, as is everything to do with.

    Having to school the interviewer on why Ramadan isn't just about fasting.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Best of luck BJO.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,321
    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,197
    Apparently the beheaded guy in France was a local business man who had previously abducted.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    Dr. Spyn, very good news, though caution's still required.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    AndyJS said:

    Best of luck BJO.

    Indeed.

    bigjohnowls - don't keep us informed unless you're 100% sure that it's safe to do so. You can tell us the story of your escape later; don't take any chances if you might be heard typing or texting.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,874
    Saying this attack has nothing to do with Islam is a bit like saying Lance Armstrong wasn't a cyclist.
  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    When is the West going to stop pussyfooting with the Islamic nutjobs
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Thoughts with you, BJO.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited June 2015
    Holy Hell @bigjohnowls

    Fingers crossed that it's all over before much longer - like others, have TV and Twitter on for any news for you and yours.

    Sounds like you've had some good advice. Head down and think you deserve a crateful of Keep Calm mugs when you get back to Blighty. This will be a cracking anecdote one day...

    @Slackbladder - there's three attacks today, some media heads are saying this is a lone wolf attack, that seems odd given the Kuwait, French and Tunisian actions.
    Slackbladder said:

    If this is ISIS or an ISIS backed group, then this is an act of war on the West.

    There's no other way this will work. We need to burn this cancer away.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    What David Cameron actually said: Source - Sky News
    "This is a threat that faces all of us. These events have taken place today in Tunisia and in France but they can happen anywhere. We all face this threat.

    "There will be a ministerially-chaired Cobra meeting, the Government's emergency committee, later on this afternoon to make sure we are doing everything we can to co-operate and co-ordinate with other countries and any information that we have we share with them in fighting this threat."

    "We have got to do all we can to help.

    "That means co-operating on counter-terrorism, building our capacity on counter-terrorism, it means dealing with the threat at source whether that is lSIL (another name for Islamic State) in Syria and Iraq or whether it is other extremist groups around the world.

    "Perhaps more important than anything is poisonous radical narrative that is turning so many young minds and we have to combat it with everything we have."

    "The people who do these things, they sometimes claim they do it in the name of Islam. They don't.

    "Islam is a religion of peace. They do it in the name of a twisted and perverted ideology that we have to confront with everything that we have.

    "We must stop the poisoning of these young minds in our country, in other European countries, and around the world."
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,198
    edited June 2015
    It should not be forgotten that In Canada the Liberals, traditionally Canada's centre-left party although now challenged by the NDP as you point out, won a majority across Canada in the general elections from 1993-2000 when the BQ won 54 seats and 44 seats and 38 seats respectively and most seats in Quebec at the 1993, 1997 and 2000 elections. So Labour does not need to overtake the SNP, just win back some seats to help it achieve a majority, with Scotland getting more powers and a new Labour leader things may develop.

    it is true of course that Kendall is the 'uber Blairite' candidate in the race but Burnham too was first promoted to be a Minister by Blair and in 2010 was considered a Blairite candidate. He was loyal to Blair when the Brownites moved against him but also loyal to Brown when the Blairites tried, in turn, to undermine him so he may be better placed than Kendall to unite all wings of the party. Cooper is clearly the Brownite candidate in the race and Corbyn the candidate of the Old Left.

    As for election 2020, it is early days, but if Osborne cuts the top tax rate in July while slashing welfare and public spending that could boost Labour, even if economically there may be arguments in favour and who knows how EU ref will impact on Tory unity. The fact that Cameron will not be leading the Tories in 2020 also removes their best asset

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    @bigjohnowls Is there anyone you want us to contact to let them know you're all okay right now?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    Miss Plato, they probably mean it as a reference to either an individual or very small group working by themselves in a basic way (ie go there, attack) rather than a larger, more complicated scheme.

    Also worth noting Tunisia and France have both been hit twice this year.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    @BJO can you email the embassy?

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Jesus, that has stopped me short. BJO, mate: all thoughts with you and your family. You are going to be OK. Just keep your head down and everyone close. With very best wishes.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Pulpstar said:

    Saying this attack has nothing to do with Islam is a bit like saying Lance Armstrong wasn't a cyclist.

    Speaking of which, given the escalation of incidents in France, I really wouldn't want to be riding Le Tour on the 14th July this year.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Plato said:

    @bigjohnowls Is there anyone you want us to contact to let them know you're all okay right now?

    Thanks for offer but whilst hotel is still in lockdown don't want to alarm anyone who is in blissful ignorance still
  • DisraeliDisraeli Posts: 1,106
    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
    Using Google translate:
    "According to Tunisian media, a second assailant was arrested."
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
    "According to the Tunisian media, a second attacker has been arrested"
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
    Google translate:

    https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.lematin.ch/monde/DIRECT-Au-moins-27-morts-dans-une-attaque-a-Sousse/story/21716500&edit-text=
  • isamisam Posts: 42,271
    Sandpit said:

    What David Cameron actually said: Source - Sky News

    "This is a threat that faces all of us. These events have taken place today in Tunisia and in France but they can happen anywhere. We all face this threat.

    "There will be a ministerially-chaired Cobra meeting, the Government's emergency committee, later on this afternoon to make sure we are doing everything we can to co-operate and co-ordinate with other countries and any information that we have we share with them in fighting this threat."

    "We have got to do all we can to help.

    "That means co-operating on counter-terrorism, building our capacity on counter-terrorism, it means dealing with the threat at source whether that is lSIL (another name for Islamic State) in Syria and Iraq or whether it is other extremist groups around the world.

    "Perhaps more important than anything is poisonous radical narrative that is turning so many young minds and we have to combat it with everything we have."

    "The people who do these things, they sometimes claim they do it in the name of Islam. They don't.

    "Islam is a religion of peace. They do it in the name of a twisted and perverted ideology that we have to confront with everything that we have.

    "We must stop the poisoning of these young minds in our country, in other European countries, and around the world."
    Football hooligans weren't real football fans either, but big changes were made to the way everyone who wanted to watch football was allowed to, for the greater good
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    MarkHopkins said:


    @BJO can you email the embassy?

    Not letting me e mail unfortunately
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2015
    COBRA meeting at 4pm, to be chaired by Philip Hammond.

    twitter.com/PHammondMP/status/614428340955578368
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,534
    BJO, hoping the worst is over now.

    FWIW, check if the bath is metal. If so, first sound of gunfire, get your faamily to lie down inside it.

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    edited June 2015
    MarkHopkins said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
    Google translate:

    https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.lematin.ch/monde/DIRECT-Au-moins-27-morts-dans-une-attaque-a-Sousse/story/21716500&edit-text=
    Wow, Google Translate has got a lot better.

    Key bit

    "15:30 According to Tunisian media, a second assailant was arrested. "

    No UK media reporting the same yet.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate
    According to Tunisian media , a second assailant was arrested . #Sousse #attentat Http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Not to put the mockers on things, but I’ve seen no secondary confirmation from major news orgs. - Will do so immediately if that changes.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    Stay put.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    Do not peak outside until it is confirmed that everything is safe, or I will do nothing but threads about AV for the next week.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    bigjohnowls said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Second gunman has been captured.

    Selon les médias tunisiens, un deuxième assaillant aurait été arrêté. #Sousse #attentat http://www.lematin.ch/21716500

    Looks good can anyone translate

    As far as I can make out the last entry says that right now there is no reliable information on the ground.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,874
    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    bigjohnowls said:

    Plato said:

    @bigjohnowls Is there anyone you want us to contact to let them know you're all okay right now?

    Thanks for offer but whilst hotel is still in lockdown don't want to alarm anyone who is in blissful ignorance still
    Stay sensible and keep safe mate
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
    Yes, probably should wait until more concrete confirmation before risking it.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
    Needless to add, I suppose, but their are likely to be scenes unsuitable for well, everybody, but particular young'uns...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    A Shia mosque in Kuwait was hit by a suicide attack today:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33287136
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited June 2015
    Some tourist guy called Steve Johnson staying at the 'Imperial Marhaba Hotel" (sic) saying it's all over and many armed police have arrived to control the situation.

    I have no idea of the veracity of that statement, unfortunately.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    Do not peak outside until it is confirmed that everything is safe, or I will do nothing but threads about AV for the next week.
    Staying put
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Agree - the hotel attack in Mumbai caught guests thinking it was all over before it really was.

    No sense in risking it until the all clear is announced. There's no news pic coming out here in the UK apart from old ones of hotel frontage and a helicopter. Looks like the whole area is on lock down for a while yet.

    How's the rest of the family?
    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    I agree with those saying you should stay where you are. It's safer.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,097
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
    Needless to add, I suppose, but their are likely to be scenes unsuitable for well, everybody, but particular young'uns...
    I would give a big warning to anyone before they click on the Twitter trend "Tunisia".
    Don't. Other international media are not as self-censorious as they are in the UK.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,776
    Mr. Sandpit, a sound warning. Some time ago I was looking for news on ISIS, and saw a picture I wasn't looking for [thankfully it wasn't as horrendous as it could've been].
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,965
    Plato said:

    Agree - the hotel attack in Mumbai caught guests thinking it was all over before it really was.

    No sense in risking it until the all clear is announced. There's no news pic coming out here in the UK apart from old ones of hotel frontage and a helicopter. Looks like the whole area is on lock down for a while yet.

    How's the rest of the family?

    Pulpstar said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Any updates appreciated beginning to think about peaking outside but we are all 3 scardy poos

    I'd strongly advise against it right now, the entire global media turns into a big echo chamber of slightly misreported/out of date events at this point.
    Not good they ran off at the first gunshot I was stupid enough to think it was part of the entertainment and carried on swimming for about 30 seconds till I realised everyone running past me was not a good sign
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