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  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    "Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
    When people mock you, that is when the end is near.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o
    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,931
    Tissue_Price said:

    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o

    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

    Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    It really is a cult in UKIP
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    isam said:

    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

    The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Via David Morton on twitter

    The Farage thing is like when a Dalek shot David Tennant's Doctor and he regenerated. Into another David Tennant Doctor
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,625
    Patrick said:

    It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.

    Exactly. Plus he could have had the summer off to rest and recuperate.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    It's all good fun but who really cares? If their MP were to re-rat, that would be serious (yet also highly amusing).
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,188
    FPT Casino Royale.

    Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    8th time lucky ?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,480
    I don't often agree with you about UKIP Mike but in this case you are absolutely right. Farage was a huge asset for UKIP whilst it was growing a few years ago. Now he gas become a liability and needs to step aside.

    Very disappointing.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @PickardJE: Farage in March: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat." http://t.co/azJBN6mUcS

    @PickardJE: When Farage was asked on Friday if he would definitely resign (by @christopherhope) he replied: “Are you calling me a liar?"

    Yes, Nige, we are calling you a liar.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    In March, Farage said: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat."
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,188
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.

    But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,931
    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

    How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    UKiP’s most potent weapon just became a little more ridiculous today.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited May 2015
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o

    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

    Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?
    I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,480
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.

    Interesting. For a man who has always claimed to be a Eurosceptic. It is interesting to now see your true colours revealed. You really are a disgraceful little man.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Tissue_Price said:

    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o

    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

    There has clearly been a declaration of war on the BBC today. But what the strategic objectives of the war are is as yet unclear.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Sean_F said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.

    But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.
    It's going to be like the Indyref all over again.

    Two inept sides fighting it out, and economic fear/uncertainty wins it for the Status Quo
  • initforthemoneyinitforthemoney Posts: 736
    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    "Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
    When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

    Five years of mocking public schoolboys didn't get Labour very far.

    Everything seems to spell doom for UKIP according to their detractors. Even quadrupling their vote was a disaster. This does look silly, but it's unimportant.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Presumably UKIP will have no problem if Carswell decides to un-defect.

  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    Tissue_Price said:

    isam said:

    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

    The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans
    Who cares?

    Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

    He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

    I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Patrick said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o

    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

    Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?
    I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)
    Rachel Johnson said on Sky News yesterday, that "Sam Cameron has inserted a passion pump in Dave"

    Not what you wanted hear whilst having your breakfast.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    What a bitter assessment! I would have preferred an election contest but Farage is the best man to bring together the more libertarian right of the party and the populist left of the party. I think he needs to be more optimistic with his rhetoric, but ultimately the party has acted in the interest of the 4 million UKIP voters, many of whom voted UKIP because of Mr Farage, how many of the other parties make selections that look beyond the interest of party members or trade unions?
    With a potential EU referendum round the corner he will do a better job outside parliament holding a pro EU Cameron to account than most of the Tory backbenchers.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,940
    edited May 2015
    Did anybody take UKIP seriously before this debacle? I mean really?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,480
    isam said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    isam said:

    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

    The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans
    Who cares?

    Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

    He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

    I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!
    Not all of us by any means Sam. This is a stupid decision and one that will seriously damage UKIP.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited May 2015
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Patrick said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets :o

    Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

    One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

    He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

    As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

    Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?
    I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)
    Rachel Johnson said on Sky News yesterday, that "Sam Cameron has inserted a passion pump in Dave"

    Not what you wanted hear whilst having your breakfast.
    I find her deeply MILFy. She can bring out her passion pump any time. Just not sure my mental scenario involves Dave!
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

    Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    I suppose this means that we're going to have the "will Farage stand" question at every by-election this Parliament?

    Everything changes and yet everything stays the same.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    edited May 2015
    isam said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    isam said:

    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

    The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans
    Who cares?

    Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

    That was true for Labour and Ed Miliband..

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.

    Interesting. For a man who has always claimed to be a Eurosceptic. It is interesting to now see your true colours revealed. You really are a disgraceful little man.
    I see you've not taken the Farage news well, try not to be so grumpy.

    I'm sceptical about some aspects of the EU, and can see some circumstances in me voting to withdraw from the EU, but, the way Farage and some Kippers make the argument for withdrawal is repugnant.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sean_F said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is damaging the Out movement.

    Bravo I say.

    But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.
    It's going to be like the Indyref all over again.

    Two inept sides fighting it out, and economic fear/uncertainty wins it for the Status Quo
    Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bbcnickrobinson: EXCLUSIVE Watch @DMiliband first post-election interview - on why Labour lost, how win, on @Ed_Miliband & on his future - 5 p.m. @BBCNews
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?
  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    Ooer

    @DouglasCarswell: wtf?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    edited May 2015
    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Could be a pub quiz question - "name a seat that Ukip leader Nigel Farage hasn't fought and lost"
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I thought there was quite a bit to be said for Nigel Farage resigning and a leadership election taking place in the autumn in which he stood against others. He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances.

    He should take the break anyway. There's nothing of importance likely to be happening for a few months. If a referendum on the EU is coming, he'll need all his energy for that.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    I don't often agree with you about UKIP Mike but in this case you are absolutely right. Farage was a huge asset for UKIP whilst it was growing a few years ago. Now he gas become a liability and needs to step aside.

    Very disappointing.

    I disagree, OGH is just sour mouthed that no one in the L/Dems wants little Nicky back.
    The vast majority of kippers want him to stay as he still has much to give UKIP in the way of leadership. True UKIP needs more leaders and they will have them in time. It's also true that no one is indispensable, but to say that farage isn't still an asset is just plain sour grapes.
  • kingbongokingbongo Posts: 393
    surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,386
    What's the problem? Dallas, the TV series, managed it with the shower scene.

    Seriously, the NEC could refuse to accept Ed's resignation too. Now that would be funny.

  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    Farage needs to be kept away from the Out campaign. Those who voted UKIP in the election will vote to leave in the referendum. The Out campaign must convince those who voted Tory to do so as well. Farage is not that man.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    TGOHF said:



    isam said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    isam said:

    Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

    His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

    The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans
    Who cares?

    Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

    That was true for Labour and Ed Miliband..

    Haha hardly!!! I never heard anyone speak well of Ed as a leader, but they voted labour anyway

    Why would other parties even have an opinion on this? Farage is hugely popular in Ukip, I didn't hear any criticism of him since the election, I said I hoped he would stay and he has

    Let's all be happy! You have your majority and we still have our man!
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    isam said:

    Ooer

    @DouglasCarswell: wtf?

    You know if you had stood your own candidate against Carswell you would have won anyway. Of course he would have to resign his seat if he does flip again...
  • TCPoliticalBettingTCPoliticalBetting Posts: 10,819
    initforthemoney said:

    TCPoliticalBetting said:

    "Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
    When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

    Five years of mocking public schoolboys didn't get Labour very far.

    Everything seems to spell doom for UKIP according to their detractors. Even quadrupling their vote was a disaster. This does look silly, but it's unimportant.
    The question is how it will play out with the voters. Farage's promise of resigning is I suggest in the top 3 list of election promises that voters will remember from UKIP. Farage&UKIP have now broken it. Maybe it will be ok but do consider the possibility that a sizable number of voters will remember it and dissapprove.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    FalseFlag said:

    Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

    Looks like it doesn't it?!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    antifrank said:

    I thought there was quite a bit to be said for Nigel Farage resigning and a leadership election taking place in the autumn in which he stood against others. He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances.

    He should take the break anyway. There's nothing of importance likely to be happening for a few months. If a referendum on the EU is coming, he'll need all his energy for that.

    I sent him a twit:

    mike kaye ‏@atmikekayes3 13m13 minutes ago
    @bertsprouler @UKIP_Voter @SuzanneEvans1 @GuidoFawkes @Nigel_Farage
    Still, I hope that Nigel takes a well deserved vacation 4 rejuvination
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,188
    kingbongo said:

    surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown

    I'd want to see what Cameron comes back with from the EU first.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    https://twitter.com/martinboon/status/597784391604121600
  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    DecrepitJohnL said:

    Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.

    Nonsense. There is no evidence at all that Brown's intervention swayed a decisive number of votes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,197
    isam said:

    FalseFlag said:

    Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

    Looks like it doesn't it?!
    Interesting to note that Kippers saved their deposits in every single one of the "Essex in London" seats, even lefty East Ham and Walthamstow.
    In Ilford North, they got 8.9%.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @krishgm: wondering whether to "resign" for a cup of tea until 5pm when I can resubmit myself as a presenter for tonight's #c4news
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,800
    There is a sliding scale of stupidness isn't there? i'm pretty sure UKIP were on it already.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,197
    isam said:

    Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

    Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!

    Labour 232 seats
    UKIP 1
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    edited May 2015
    @Tissue_Price

    'As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Cameron will no doubt get a lot of support from Ed and his former shadow cabinet members for standing up against a large corporation.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
    Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Tissue_Price said:

    Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?

    A. All of them.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    john_zims said:

    @Tissue_Price

    'As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

    Cameron will no doubt get a lot of support from Ed and his former shadow cabinet members for standing up against a large corporation.

    The BBC are predators, not producers.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,197
    edited May 2015
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/martinboon/status/597784391604121600

    I'm an Opinion Poll addict, and, and I've been fighting to get off polling data - shut up TSE! - and, um, since last August. I've been in rehab twice, and I don't wanna be like people like Angus Reid, that were.... and stuff like that. I wanna be a survivor.

    I mean I died again on Election Night. So, I'm not...I'm not...my cats' lives are out. I...I just wanna say sorry to all the fans and stuff, and uh, I'm glad to be alive, and sorry to me mum as well.

    I just want them to know that it's not cool. It's not a cool thing to be an addict. It's not...you know, you're a slave to it, and it took...it's taken everything away from me that I loved, and so I've got to rebuild my life.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,386
    Mr Antifrank,

    "He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances."

    That's been true.

    But with Carswell stating today that he wasn't interested in the job, I suspect collusion.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    They got one more MP elected at a GE than ever before.

    The next watershed will be when they get one elected who isn't a defector being re-elected.

    Very good news for those of us who are pro-Europe. Farage completely discredits the out movement and this keeps him front and centre.

    Should also lead to comedy when he loses the referendum and doesn't quit over that either!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

    Repeatedly.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
    Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?
    I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

    You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    I've found MalcolmG

    https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/597785899791974402
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,756
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    I do like Isabel Hardman.

    Farage should resign. You could argue him contesting for the leadership against others is valid, but just staying on is not. Daft sod.

    Mr. Eagles, entirely possible to not be a Kipper and be very sceptical of the EU.
  • AllyPally_RobAllyPally_Rob Posts: 605
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

    How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....
    I can just picture check in this morning...

    "Would you mind placing your hand luggage on the belt Mr Miliband?"....."Umm it appears you have gone over the baggage allowance Sir. You may want to remove that large stone before boarding"
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.
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  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    Sean_F said:

    FPT Casino Royale.

    Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

    This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

    I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
    Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?
    I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

    You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?
    David Cameron won a majority, increased his share of the vote and MPs, the latter achievement was the first by a PM in a century, serving a full term.

    In terms strategists, David Cameron = Norman Schwarzkopf, Nigel Farage, is the man dressed in the cat suit, outside Picadilly Basin, who shouts meow at anyone who walks pass.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,197
    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
    Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?
    I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

    You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?
    "You've got a little fight in you - I like that!" :)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,931
    AllyPally_Rob said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

    How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....
    I can just picture check in this morning...

    "Would you mind placing your hand luggage on the belt Mr Miliband?"....."Umm it appears you have gone over the baggage allowance Sir. You may want to remove that large stone before boarding"
    LOL....
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ramping much?

    @ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

    Repeatedly.
    This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    TGOHF said:

    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

    No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,847
    David Miliband preparing to become PM in 2025 ?
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Brom said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.
    Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?
    I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

    You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?
    David Cameron won a majority, increased his share of the vote and MPs, the latter achievement was the first by a PM in a century, serving a full term.

    In terms strategists, David Cameron = Norman Schwarzkopf, Nigel Farage, is the man dressed in the cat suit, outside Picadilly Basin, who shouts meow at anyone who walks pass.
    When you're in a 150 year old party, with a 9 million voter base even when things are going badly, support of the media, support of the richest people in the country and facing an incompetent opposition strategy becomes a lot easier.

    Take nothing away from Lynton Crosby and the rest, he was worth every penny and in hindsight ran a great campaign, but Mr Farage has done more relatively speaking for his party than Mr Cameron has.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,885
    antifrank said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

    Repeatedly.
    This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.
    Hey, all my election predictions were spot on if you ignore the ones that weren't
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited May 2015
    antifrank said:

    This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

    There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TGOHF said:

    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

    No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

    Return ticket to Clacton ?
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    isam said:

    FalseFlag said:

    Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

    Looks like it doesn't it?!
    You don't think that this will be rammed down his throat for the next 5 years?
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    TGOHF said:

    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.
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    Things couldn't be going better for Cameron. This is a monumental mistake. The one thing Farage is, is an outsider speaking his mind. This is how he gets away with the mistakes. If we cannot believe what he is saying then UKIP are badly damaged because the brand is very closely associated with him. The one thing is that it may be a good day to bury it with the reshuffle going on.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    TGOHF said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TGOHF said:

    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

    No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

    Return ticket to Clacton ?
    Robin Brant made up news during the election campaign and he's still making it up.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,265
    Scott_P said:

    Ramping much?

    @ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

    I hope that he runs for leader. 5 further years of Con majority would suit me well.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    Nemtynakht said:

    Sean_F said:

    FPT Casino Royale.

    Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

    This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

    I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.
    Has she ever run a business, had a real job, created a real job? Has she ever been a net taxpayer?
  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Slackbladder said:

    Maybe Farage has just re-generated, and he'll be back looking like Tom Baker.

    He's more Colin Baker, than Tom Baker
    Hilda Baker
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,931
    Scott_P said:

    Ramping much?

    @ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

    What could go wrong....

    http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48338000/jpg/_48338601_milliband_banana_uppa_224.jpg
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    MikeK said:

    TGOHF said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    TGOHF said:

    Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
    very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

    No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

    Return ticket to Clacton ?
    Robin Brant made up news during the election campaign and he's still making it up.
    Yes Robin Brant clearly has no love lost for the purples. I'm surprised UKIP didn't specifically call him out on the campaign trail for some of his slurs.

    But yes no prizes for guessing Mr Carswell won't be overly enamored with this decision!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    antifrank said:

    This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

    There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.
    I've been wrong about embarrassing numbers of things this time around - I'm going to be putting up a post in the next couple of days when I've got through listing them all. The only comfort that I have is that I am in good company.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,244
    currystar said:

    isam said:

    FalseFlag said:

    Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

    Looks like it doesn't it?!
    You don't think that this will be rammed down his throat for the next 5 years?
    He resigned and they didn't accept it

    Why would anyone but kippers care?
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    nigel4england said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    From the UKIP statement

    The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

    How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

    How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?
    It is all about winning seats.

    You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

    How did he manage to lose that.
    For a fledgling party it's all about winning vote share, which will be transformed into seats at a later date.

    How do you feel about UKIP being the only challengers to Labour in the North?

    I nearly voted Tory for the first time, if I lived in a marginal I probably would have done, however arrogant egotistical twats like you are always there to remind me not to.
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