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Farage unresigns –
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isam

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

TCPoliticalBetting

"Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

TheScreamingEagles

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

[Deleted User]

It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.

Tissue_Price

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

FrancisUrquhart

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

TheScreamingEagles

It really is a cult in UKIP

Tissue_Price

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

TheScreamingEagles

Via David Morton on twitter

The Farage thing is like when a Dalek shot David Tennant's Doctor and he regenerated. Into another David Tennant Doctor

RobD

Patrick said:

It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.

Exactly. Plus he could have had the summer off to rest and recuperate.

DecrepitJohnL

It's all good fun but who really cares? If their MP were to re-rat, that would be serious (yet also highly amusing).

Scott_P

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

TheScreamingEagles

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

Sean_F

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

TGOHF

8th time lucky ?

Richard_Tyndall

I don't often agree with you about UKIP Mike but in this case you are absolutely right. Farage was a huge asset for UKIP whilst it was growing a few years ago. Now he gas become a liability and needs to step aside.

Very disappointing.

Scott_P

@PickardJE: Farage in March: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat." http://t.co/azJBN6mUcS

@PickardJE: When Farage was asked on Friday if he would definitely resign (by @christopherhope) he replied: “Are you calling me a liar?"

Yes, Nige, we are calling you a liar.

TheScreamingEagles

In March, Farage said: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat."

Sean_F

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.

FrancisUrquhart

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....

SimonStClare

UKiP’s most potent weapon just became a little more ridiculous today.

[Deleted User]

FrancisUrquhart said:

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)

Richard_Tyndall

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

Interesting. For a man who has always claimed to be a Eurosceptic. It is interesting to now see your true colours revealed. You really are a disgraceful little man.

AlastairMeeks

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

There has clearly been a declaration of war on the BBC today. But what the strategic objectives of the war are is as yet unclear.

TheScreamingEagles

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.

It's going to be like the Indyref all over again.

Two inept sides fighting it out, and economic fear/uncertainty wins it for the Status Quo

initforthemoney

TCPoliticalBetting said:

"Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

Five years of mocking public schoolboys didn't get Labour very far.

Everything seems to spell doom for UKIP according to their detractors. Even quadrupling their vote was a disaster. This does look silly, but it's unimportant.

MarkHopkins

Presumably UKIP will have no problem if Carswell decides to un-defect.

isam

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!

TheScreamingEagles

Patrick said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)

Rachel Johnson said on Sky News yesterday, that "Sam Cameron has inserted a passion pump in Dave"

Not what you wanted hear whilst having your breakfast.

Brom

What a bitter assessment! I would have preferred an election contest but Farage is the best man to bring together the more libertarian right of the party and the populist left of the party. I think he needs to be more optimistic with his rhetoric, but ultimately the party has acted in the interest of the 4 million UKIP voters, many of whom voted UKIP because of Mr Farage, how many of the other parties make selections that look beyond the interest of party members or trade unions?
With a potential EU referendum round the corner he will do a better job outside parliament holding a pro EU Cameron to account than most of the Tory backbenchers.

GIN1138

Did anybody take UKIP seriously before this debacle? I mean really?

Richard_Tyndall

isam said:

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!

Not all of us by any means Sam. This is a stupid decision and one that will seriously damage UKIP.

[Deleted User]

TheScreamingEagles said:

Patrick said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)

Rachel Johnson said on Sky News yesterday, that "Sam Cameron has inserted a passion pump in Dave"

Not what you wanted hear whilst having your breakfast.

I find her deeply MILFy. She can bring out her passion pump any time. Just not sure my mental scenario involves Dave!

FalseFlag

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

nigel4england

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

isam

Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!

OblitusSumMe

I suppose this means that we're going to have the "will Farage stand" question at every by-election this Parliament?

Everything changes and yet everything stays the same.

TGOHF

isam said:

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

That was true for Labour and Ed Miliband..

TheScreamingEagles

Richard_Tyndall said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

Interesting. For a man who has always claimed to be a Eurosceptic. It is interesting to now see your true colours revealed. You really are a disgraceful little man.

I see you've not taken the Farage news well, try not to be so grumpy.

I'm sceptical about some aspects of the EU, and can see some circumstances in me voting to withdraw from the EU, but, the way Farage and some Kippers make the argument for withdrawal is repugnant.

DecrepitJohnL

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.

It's going to be like the Indyref all over again.

Two inept sides fighting it out, and economic fear/uncertainty wins it for the Status Quo

Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.

Scott_P

@bbcnickrobinson: EXCLUSIVE Watch @DMiliband first post-election interview - on why Labour lost, how win, on @Ed_Miliband & on his future - 5 p.m. @BBCNews

Tissue_Price

Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?

isam

Ooer

@DouglasCarswell: wtf?

TheScreamingEagles

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

TGOHF

Could be a pub quiz question - "name a seat that Ukip leader Nigel Farage hasn't fought and lost"

AlastairMeeks

I thought there was quite a bit to be said for Nigel Farage resigning and a leadership election taking place in the autumn in which he stood against others. He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances.

He should take the break anyway. There's nothing of importance likely to be happening for a few months. If a referendum on the EU is coming, he'll need all his energy for that.

MikeK

Richard_Tyndall said:

I don't often agree with you about UKIP Mike but in this case you are absolutely right. Farage was a huge asset for UKIP whilst it was growing a few years ago. Now he gas become a liability and needs to step aside.

Very disappointing.

I disagree, OGH is just sour mouthed that no one in the L/Dems wants little Nicky back.
The vast majority of kippers want him to stay as he still has much to give UKIP in the way of leadership. True UKIP needs more leaders and they will have them in time. It's also true that no one is indispensable, but to say that farage isn't still an asset is just plain sour grapes.

kingbongo

surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown

CD13

What's the problem? Dallas, the TV series, managed it with the shower scene.

Seriously, the NEC could refuse to accept Ed's resignation too. Now that would be funny.

Life_ina_market_town

Farage needs to be kept away from the Out campaign. Those who voted UKIP in the election will vote to leave in the referendum. The Out campaign must convince those who voted Tory to do so as well. Farage is not that man.

isam

TGOHF said:

isam said:

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

That was true for Labour and Ed Miliband..

Haha hardly!!! I never heard anyone speak well of Ed as a leader, but they voted labour anyway

Why would other parties even have an opinion on this? Farage is hugely popular in Ukip, I didn't hear any criticism of him since the election, I said I hoped he would stay and he has

Let's all be happy! You have your majority and we still have our man!

FalseFlag

isam said:

Ooer

@DouglasCarswell: wtf?

You know if you had stood your own candidate against Carswell you would have won anyway. Of course he would have to resign his seat if he does flip again...

TCPoliticalBetting

initforthemoney said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

"Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

Five years of mocking public schoolboys didn't get Labour very far.

Everything seems to spell doom for UKIP according to their detractors. Even quadrupling their vote was a disaster. This does look silly, but it's unimportant.

The question is how it will play out with the voters. Farage's promise of resigning is I suggest in the top 3 list of election promises that voters will remember from UKIP. Farage&UKIP have now broken it. Maybe it will be ok but do consider the possibility that a sizable number of voters will remember it and dissapprove.

isam

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

MikeK

antifrank said:

I thought there was quite a bit to be said for Nigel Farage resigning and a leadership election taking place in the autumn in which he stood against others. He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances.

He should take the break anyway. There's nothing of importance likely to be happening for a few months. If a referendum on the EU is coming, he'll need all his energy for that.

I sent him a twit:

mike kaye ‏@atmikekayes3 13m13 minutes ago
@bertsprouler @UKIP_Voter @SuzanneEvans1 @GuidoFawkes @Nigel_Farage
Still, I hope that Nigel takes a well deserved vacation 4 rejuvination

Sean_F

kingbongo said:

surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown

I'd want to see what Cameron comes back with from the EU first.

TheScreamingEagles

https://twitter.com/martinboon/status/597784391604121600

Life_ina_market_town

DecrepitJohnL said:

Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.

Nonsense. There is no evidence at all that Brown's intervention swayed a decisive number of votes.

Sunil_Prasannan

isam said:

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

Interesting to note that Kippers saved their deposits in every single one of the "Essex in London" seats, even lefty East Ham and Walthamstow.
In Ilford North, they got 8.9%.

Scott_P

@krishgm: wondering whether to "resign" for a cup of tea until 5pm when I can resubmit myself as a presenter for tonight's #c4news

Slackbladder

There is a sliding scale of stupidness isn't there? i'm pretty sure UKIP were on it already.

Sunil_Prasannan

isam said:

Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!

Labour 232 seats
UKIP 1

Brom

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

john_zims

@Tissue_Price

'As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Cameron will no doubt get a lot of support from Ed and his former shadow cabinet members for standing up against a large corporation.

TheScreamingEagles

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

Tissue_Price

Tissue_Price said:

Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?

A. All of them.

Tissue_Price

john_zims said:

@Tissue_Price

'As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Cameron will no doubt get a lot of support from Ed and his former shadow cabinet members for standing up against a large corporation.

The BBC are predators, not producers.

Sunil_Prasannan

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/martinboon/status/597784391604121600

I'm an Opinion Poll addict, and, and I've been fighting to get off polling data - shut up TSE! - and, um, since last August. I've been in rehab twice, and I don't wanna be like people like Angus Reid, that were.... and stuff like that. I wanna be a survivor.

I mean I died again on Election Night. So, I'm not...I'm not...my cats' lives are out. I...I just wanna say sorry to all the fans and stuff, and uh, I'm glad to be alive, and sorry to me mum as well.

I just want them to know that it's not cool. It's not a cool thing to be an addict. It's not...you know, you're a slave to it, and it took...it's taken everything away from me that I loved, and so I've got to rebuild my life.

Richard_Nabavi

But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

CD13

Mr Antifrank,

"He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances."

That's been true.

But with Carswell stating today that he wasn't interested in the job, I suspect collusion.

Bond_James_Bond

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

They got one more MP elected at a GE than ever before.

The next watershed will be when they get one elected who isn't a defector being re-elected.

Very good news for those of us who are pro-Europe. Farage completely discredits the out movement and this keeps him front and centre.

Should also lead to comedy when he loses the referendum and doesn't quit over that either!

TheScreamingEagles

Richard_Nabavi said:

But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

Repeatedly.

Brom

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

TheScreamingEagles

I've found MalcolmG

https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/597785899791974402

Morris_Dancer

Good afternoon, everyone.

I do like Isabel Hardman.

Farage should resign. You could argue him contesting for the leadership against others is valid, but just staying on is not. Daft sod.

Mr. Eagles, entirely possible to not be a Kipper and be very sceptical of the EU.

AllyPally_Rob

FrancisUrquhart said:

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....

I can just picture check in this morning...

"Would you mind placing your hand luggage on the belt Mr Miliband?"....."Umm it appears you have gone over the baggage allowance Sir. You may want to remove that large stone before boarding"

TGOHF

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Nemtynakht

Sean_F said:

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.

TheScreamingEagles

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

David Cameron won a majority, increased his share of the vote and MPs, the latter achievement was the first by a PM in a century, serving a full term.

In terms strategists, David Cameron = Norman Schwarzkopf, Nigel Farage, is the man dressed in the cat suit, outside Picadilly Basin, who shouts meow at anyone who walks pass.

Sunil_Prasannan

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

"You've got a little fight in you - I like that!"

FrancisUrquhart

AllyPally_Rob said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....

I can just picture check in this morning...

"Would you mind placing your hand luggage on the belt Mr Miliband?"....."Umm it appears you have gone over the baggage allowance Sir. You may want to remove that large stone before boarding"

LOL....

Scott_P

Ramping much?

@ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

AlastairMeeks

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

Repeatedly.

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

Richard_Nabavi

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

Pulpstar

David Miliband preparing to become PM in 2025 ?

Brom

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

David Cameron won a majority, increased his share of the vote and MPs, the latter achievement was the first by a PM in a century, serving a full term.

In terms strategists, David Cameron = Norman Schwarzkopf, Nigel Farage, is the man dressed in the cat suit, outside Picadilly Basin, who shouts meow at anyone who walks pass.

When you're in a 150 year old party, with a 9 million voter base even when things are going badly, support of the media, support of the richest people in the country and facing an incompetent opposition strategy becomes a lot easier.

Take nothing away from Lynton Crosby and the rest, he was worth every penny and in hindsight ran a great campaign, but Mr Farage has done more relatively speaking for his party than Mr Cameron has.

TheScreamingEagles

antifrank said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

Repeatedly.

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

Hey, all my election predictions were spot on if you ignore the ones that weren't

Richard_Nabavi

antifrank said:

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.

TGOHF

Richard_Nabavi said:

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

Return ticket to Clacton ?

currystar

isam said:

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

You don't think that this will be rammed down his throat for the next 5 years?

Nemtynakht

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.
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Things couldn't be going better for Cameron. This is a monumental mistake. The one thing Farage is, is an outsider speaking his mind. This is how he gets away with the mistakes. If we cannot believe what he is saying then UKIP are badly damaged because the brand is very closely associated with him. The one thing is that it may be a good day to bury it with the reshuffle going on.

MikeK

TGOHF said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

Return ticket to Clacton ?

Robin Brant made up news during the election campaign and he's still making it up.

Chameleon

Scott_P said:

Ramping much?

@ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

I hope that he runs for leader. 5 further years of Con majority would suit me well.

Bond_James_Bond

Nemtynakht said:

Sean_F said:

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.

Has she ever run a business, had a real job, created a real job? Has she ever been a net taxpayer?

Flightpathl

TheScreamingEagles said:

Slackbladder said:

Maybe Farage has just re-generated, and he'll be back looking like Tom Baker.

He's more Colin Baker, than Tom Baker

Hilda Baker

FrancisUrquhart

Scott_P said:

Ramping much?

@ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

What could go wrong....

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48338000/jpg/_48338601_milliband_banana_uppa_224.jpg

Brom

MikeK said:

TGOHF said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

Return ticket to Clacton ?

Robin Brant made up news during the election campaign and he's still making it up.

Yes Robin Brant clearly has no love lost for the purples. I'm surprised UKIP didn't specifically call him out on the campaign trail for some of his slurs.

But yes no prizes for guessing Mr Carswell won't be overly enamored with this decision!

AlastairMeeks

Richard_Nabavi said:

antifrank said:

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.

I've been wrong about embarrassing numbers of things this time around - I'm going to be putting up a post in the next couple of days when I've got through listing them all. The only comfort that I have is that I am in good company.

isam

currystar said:

isam said:

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

You don't think that this will be rammed down his throat for the next 5 years?

He resigned and they didn't accept it

Why would anyone but kippers care?

nigel4england

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

For a fledgling party it's all about winning vote share, which will be transformed into seats at a later date.

How do you feel about UKIP being the only challengers to Labour in the North?

I nearly voted Tory for the first time, if I lived in a marginal I probably would have done, however arrogant egotistical twats like you are always there to remind me not to.