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"Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Patrick said:

It's naively clumsy. If they want Nige to be leader they should just let him run in the leadership election. He'd walk it. This 'unresignation' looks a bit naff.

Exactly. Plus he could have had the summer off to rest and recuperate.

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

I don't often agree with you about UKIP Mike but in this case you are absolutely right. Farage was a huge asset for UKIP whilst it was growing a few years ago. Now he gas become a liability and needs to step aside.

Very disappointing.

In March, Farage said: "It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat."

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....

FrancisUrquhart said:

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

Pumped up Dave.....has Sam Cam been slipping something in his tea?

I thought Sam had been injecting Dave with the passion pump! TSE nearly had a nervous breakdown. ;-)

Tissue_Price said:

FPT: Tom Bradby series of tweets

Tom Bradby, on Twitter said:

One point about D Cameron is he is slow to take offence, but reluctant to forgive once it is taken. His anger at the BBC was over debates.

He was genuinely furious at the threat to empty chair him and the way he felt he was being pushed into a corner.

As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Not sure what it really means, mind. Easy to say, hard to change anything substantial.

There has clearly been a declaration of war on the BBC today. But what the strategic objectives of the war are is as yet unclear.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

"Farage’s “unresignation” makes him and his party look stupid"
When people mock you, that is when the end is near.

Five years of mocking public schoolboys didn't get Labour very far.

Everything seems to spell doom for UKIP according to their detractors. Even quadrupling their vote was a disaster. This does look silly, but it's unimportant.

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!

What a bitter assessment! I would have preferred an election contest but Farage is the best man to bring together the more libertarian right of the party and the populist left of the party. I think he needs to be more optimistic with his rhetoric, but ultimately the party has acted in the interest of the 4 million UKIP voters, many of whom voted UKIP because of Mr Farage, how many of the other parties make selections that look beyond the interest of party members or trade unions?
With a potential EU referendum round the corner he will do a better job outside parliament holding a pro EU Cameron to account than most of the Tory backbenchers.

isam said:

Tissue_Price said:

isam said:

Best news the party could have had.. No wonder the others are angry

His resignation was rejected... He didn't unresign

The party still looks stupid over it. Why did he promise to resign [if he lost] in the first place? A massive unforced error that (a) made it harder to win Thanet S and (b) led to today's shenanigans

Who cares?

Ukip voters love Farage and the other parties hate him...

He was and is the best man for the job and he is still in situ... Fantastic

I am very sadly genuinely ecstatic!!!

Not all of us by any means Sam. This is a stupid decision and one that will seriously damage UKIP.

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Farage is damaging the Out movement.

Bravo I say.

But, Juncker is doing his damnedest to help the Out side.

It's going to be like the Indyref all over again.

Two inept sides fighting it out, and economic fear/uncertainty wins it for the Status Quo

Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.

Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I thought there was quite a bit to be said for Nigel Farage resigning and a leadership election taking place in the autumn in which he stood against others. He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances.

He should take the break anyway. There's nothing of importance likely to be happening for a few months. If a referendum on the EU is coming, he'll need all his energy for that.

surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown

Farage needs to be kept away from the Out campaign. Those who voted UKIP in the election will vote to leave in the referendum. The Out campaign must convince those who voted Tory to do so as well. Farage is not that man.

isam said:

Ooer

@DouglasCarswell: wtf?

You know if you had stood your own candidate against Carswell you would have won anyway. Of course he would have to resign his seat if he does flip again...

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

kingbongo said:

surely with foolishness like this it's time for Sean_F to consider returning to home port after exploring the confused geography of the statist/libertarian authoritarian/liberal kingdom of UKIP whose ruler has lost any shred of political integrity despite it being his main claim to the crown

I'd want to see what Cameron comes back with from the EU first.

DecrepitJohnL said:

Fear and uncertainty damn near lost. What won it was Gordon Brown.

Nonsense. There is no evidence at all that Brown's intervention swayed a decisive number of votes.

@krishgm: wondering whether to "resign" for a cup of tea until 5pm when I can resubmit myself as a presenter for tonight's #c4news

isam said:

Labour appoint a bloke that no one wanted... Disaster!

Ukip appoint a bloke that they all wanted... Disaster!

Labour 232 seats
UKIP 1

@Tissue_Price

'As one source close to him put it; 'he was the last bar to action against the BBC and now his reluctance has evaporated.'

Cameron will no doubt get a lot of support from Ed and his former shadow cabinet members for standing up against a large corporation.

Tissue_Price said:

Q. How many Lib Dems does it take for a game of polo?

A. All of them.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/martinboon/status/597784391604121600

I'm an Opinion Poll addict, and, and I've been fighting to get off polling data - shut up TSE! - and, um, since last August. I've been in rehab twice, and I don't wanna be like people like Angus Reid, that were.... and stuff like that. I wanna be a survivor.

I mean I died again on Election Night. So, I'm not...I'm not...my cats' lives are out. I...I just wanna say sorry to all the fans and stuff, and uh, I'm glad to be alive, and sorry to me mum as well.

I just want them to know that it's not cool. It's not a cool thing to be an addict. It's not...you know, you're a slave to it, and it took...it's taken everything away from me that I loved, and so I've got to rebuild my life.

Mr Antifrank,

"He looks as though he's badly in need of a rest and his usual bonhomie has been notably absent in recent media appearances."

That's been true.

But with Carswell stating today that he wasn't interested in the job, I suspect collusion.

Richard_Nabavi said:

But surely Mark Reckles must have won? Kelly Tolhurst was an embarrasing disaster who could get too sentences out without making a fool of herself, were we not told?

Repeatedly.

I've found MalcolmG

https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/597785899791974402

FrancisUrquhart said:

Scott_P said:

@MrHarryCole: Miliband texting the NEC right now from Ibiza: http://t.co/mhJOL9Af6m http://t.co/0aYxDe8xeN

How are the exit polls looking...we still looking good....

I can just picture check in this morning...

"Would you mind placing your hand luggage on the belt Mr Miliband?"....."Umm it appears you have gone over the baggage allowance Sir. You may want to remove that large stone before boarding"

Sean_F said:

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

"You've got a little fight in you - I like that!"

Ramping much?

@ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

TGOHF said:

Robin Brant ‏@robindbrant 42s42 seconds ago
very senior @UKIP fig tells bbc @Nigel_Farage decision to stay 'was a mistake', which would undermine his record for straight talking.

No prizes for guessing who that 'very senior figure' is.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Brom said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

nigel4england said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

From the UKIP statement

The NEC also concluded that UKIP’s general election campaign had been a great success.

How the heck is a net loss of one MP a great success?

How is going from 3% to 13% not a success?

It is all about winning seats.

You had two incumbents, and Reckless, to quote someone here, was up against the inept Kelly Tolhurst

How did he manage to lose that.

I don't think that's his fault. You cannot do much more as a leader than increase your vote by 400% and come 2nd in 120 seats. The reason UKIP didn't win at least a handful of seats was a failure in strategy and lack of resources, not a failure in leadership.

Who is responsible for the strategy if not the leader?

I'd imagine a team of people, including Raheem Kassam, Gawain Towler, Suzanne Evans, Chris Bruni-Lowe, Paul Lambert, Patrick O'Flynn and Nigel Farage himself.

You do realise David Cameron doesn't do everything on his own don't you?

David Cameron won a majority, increased his share of the vote and MPs, the latter achievement was the first by a PM in a century, serving a full term.

In terms strategists, David Cameron = Norman Schwarzkopf, Nigel Farage, is the man dressed in the cat suit, outside Picadilly Basin, who shouts meow at anyone who walks pass.

When you're in a 150 year old party, with a 9 million voter base even when things are going badly, support of the media, support of the richest people in the country and facing an incompetent opposition strategy becomes a lot easier.

Take nothing away from Lynton Crosby and the rest, he was worth every penny and in hindsight ran a great campaign, but Mr Farage has done more relatively speaking for his party than Mr Cameron has.

antifrank said:

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.

isam said:

FalseFlag said:

Gotta love Farage, this will annoy all the right people.

Looks like it doesn't it?!

You don't think that this will be rammed down his throat for the next 5 years?

Nemtynakht said:

Sean_F said:

FPT Casino Royale.

Read the article by Libby Purves in today's Times. She records all the comments she's received in her twitter account, from various luminaries, recording their horror, astonishment, and despair at the Conservatives' victory. Apparently, we now live in Mordor; immigrants will be deported; the NHS will be dismantled, and the poor will starve.

This is a massive problem for Labour. The absolute crap I have seen on my Facebook in the last few days has been appalling. The gullibility of those who now think the NHS will be privatised is breathtaking, as Cameron stood on increased funding, for a service that is extremely important to middle England. It's a none issue really. Liz Kendall hit it on the head when she said what is important is what works. A little bit more work in the NHS by private companies will be tolerated if it works.

I think she would be a massive risk for Cameron as he does seem condescending toward women.

Has she ever run a business, had a real job, created a real job? Has she ever been a net taxpayer?

Scott_P said:

Ramping much?

@ChrisGibsonNews: Big David Miliband exclusive coming up at 5pm @bbcnickrobinson @DMiliband @Ed_Miliband @BBCNews

What could go wrong....

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48338000/jpg/_48338601_milliband_banana_uppa_224.jpg

Richard_Nabavi said:

antifrank said:

This election made fools of most of us. It's a little unfair to pick on the kippers when there's scarcely a poster on pb who could not be made to blush about one prediction or another.

There's no dishonour in being wrong. What is to be avoided in political betting is not to admit the possibility that you might be wrong. It can be very bad for your wallet to make that mistake.

I've been wrong about embarrassing numbers of things this time around - I'm going to be putting up a post in the next couple of days when I've got through listing them all. The only comfort that I have is that I am in good company.