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Very simple:
Con + 2 vs last Survation (2nd May; Mail on Sunday)
Con = vs previous Mirror Survation (1st May)0 -
PB Tories are like Scottish Unionists.SeanT said:
BUT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.HYUFD said:SeanT The key factor is the UKIP vote, if that drifts back to around 10% the Tories will be on about 37% and certainly largest party
With just 40 hours to go. I am mystified by the mass hallucination that has Labour most seats at 4/1
They think they can recover "converts". Kippers are converts, they believe that the "other" is hurting them and they won't "return" because it is now against their fundamental beliefs.0 -
I've left a bottle of whiskey and a revolver in your study...Casino_Royale said:
Lord. We're screwed.Neil said:
You better believe it.Casino_Royale said:
Sh*t. Did he?Neil said:
Until you saw Roger call it for Dave, surely.Casino_Royale said:
The DH call is the worst news I've heard this week.bigjohnowls said:Most seats market
LAB into 5.1 from 5.9
Con 1.2 out to 1.23
EICIPM market Mystic Dan does the trick as back to yesterdays levels after DH declares Dave the winner
Dave drifted like a barge in last 3 hours
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Search is on going for Crossover January, Pulling away February and their mate Majority Winning Leads March. Rumours of them being murdered by the Labour Valentines Day Massacre or the Back after Easter Poll Leads have been dismissed. If any of the PB Hodges do find them can they send them to Rod Crosby as he has a Swingback that has also been missing for months.0
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2% up from the most recent Survation poll, from the Mail on Sunday. 33% from Survation is a good score for the Tories, because of the big score the company gives to UKIP.Plato said:So is it Tories up 2 or not?
The state of the polls is therefore:-
Panelbase, Lab+2%,
Survation Lab +1%,
Populus, Yougov, Com Res tied,
TNS, Opinium, Con +1%,
Ashcroft Con 2%,
ICM, BGM Con +3%,
Ipsos MORI, Con +5%,
Average Con lead 1.1%.0 -
I envy you the wine.nichomar said:Wearing my orange tinted sun glasses and seven years of spani Sh beer and wine, possibly coupled with too much sun my take on lib dem prospects are
Scotland hold 4/5 there are reasons but no time to post them
We will lose
Burnley
Withington
Bradford East
May hold berwick but difficult
We will also lose
Cardiff Cental, BristolWest, Wells, Taunton, Somerton&Frome, the one in Norfolk, Brent Central, possibly Redcar
There will be gains, Watford, OXWAB, and possibly two others so net 52/53 gbut that is too silly so I'll settle for 400 -
Dair Their fundamental belief is for an EU referendum and only 1 PM will give them that0
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I think it's a deliberate misdirection by Labour to make us think it is closer than it really is, and embolden the troops for the final push.kle4 said:How can Labour think they are losing? How bad can their canvassing returns really be telling them they are doing given the rock solid TCTC (equaling a Labour government) of the polls. Silly Labour.
What will be interesting to see (though sadly I will not be around to see it, being at a count), is how disbelieving the pundits and pollsters may be of the exit polls. We have reason to doubt the exit polls more than usual this time apparently, but it'll be fun to see if most people are adamant they will be wrong (If they indicate the LDs holding 40 or something else ridiculous) and then they are almost dead on again.
That said, there really doesn't seem to be any Tory panic or breaking ranks that I've been expecting as long as the polls failed to shift.0 -
Wow. That's my seat.Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".0 -
What's the equivalent to stirring up fear over those dirty Arabs voting though? Cameron to tweet about "women being bused to polling stations in huge numbers" to scare UKIP supporters back into the fold?HYUFD said:SeanT UKIP is lower than its peak, and the drift of voters from rightwing parties to Likud in Israel only happened on election day
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Sean F Average lead poll of polls EICIPM!!!Sean_F said:
2% up from the most recent Survation poll, from the Mail on Sunday. 33% from Survation is a good score for the Tories, because of the big score the company gives to UKIP.Plato said:So is it Tories up 2 or not?
The state of the polls is therefore:-
Panelbase, Lab+2%,
Survation Lab +1%,
Populus, Yougov, Com Res tied,
TNS, Opinium, Con +1%,
Ashcroft Con 2%,
ICM, BGM Con +3%,
Ipsos MORI, Con +5%,
Average Con lead 1.1%.0 -
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?0 -
No - Nicola isbigjohnowls said:
sEAN f Average lead poll of polls EICIPM!!!Sean_F said:
2% up from the most recent Survation poll, from the Mail on Sunday. 33% from Survation is a good score for the Tories, because of the big score the company gives to UKIP.Plato said:So is it Tories up 2 or not?
The state of the polls is therefore:-
Panelbase, Lab+2%,
Survation Lab +1%,
Populus, Yougov, Com Res tied,
TNS, Opinium, Con +1%,
Ashcroft Con 2%,
ICM, BGM Con +3%,
Ipsos MORI, Con +5%,
Average Con lead 1.1%.0 -
You predicted consistent Labour leads right up until the GE. How did that work out for you?compouter2 said:Search is on going for Crossover January, Pulling away February and their mate Majority Winning Leads March. Rumours of them being murdered by the Labour Valentines Day Massacre or the Back after Easter Poll Leads have been dismissed. If any of the PB Hodges do find them can they send them to Rod Crosby as he has a Swingback that has also been missing for months.
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I'm a little curious as to the aired thoughts of David Milliband in all this. Has he said anything?0
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Logically all the parties ought to fire their hired-in election strategists because none of them has achieved anything. The polls are exactly where they were 6 weeks ago.
The trouble with tactical voting is that it completely masks what people actually want. I recall in 1983 hearing from gloomy defeated lefties at university that Fatcha had no mandate to govern because 56% of the electorate had "voted against her". I pointed out that if you're going to interpret non-support in that way then 72% had "voted against" Labour so she still had every right to govern.
When you've got people voting UKIP to prevent a referendum by getting Labour in, and others voting SNP so Labour will win and screw the English, and voting Conservative so UKIP will lose, the actual vote percentages become literally almost completely meaningless. We know 28% of Labouroids will vote for a donkey in a red rosette - which is pretty much what Miliband is - but WTF anyone else's poll share means, I can't really fathom.0 -
Probably, but not easily.bigjohnowls said:
Sean F Average lead poll of polls EICIPM!!!Sean_F said:
2% up from the most recent Survation poll, from the Mail on Sunday. 33% from Survation is a good score for the Tories, because of the big score the company gives to UKIP.Plato said:So is it Tories up 2 or not?
The state of the polls is therefore:-
Panelbase, Lab+2%,
Survation Lab +1%,
Populus, Yougov, Com Res tied,
TNS, Opinium, Con +1%,
Ashcroft Con 2%,
ICM, BGM Con +3%,
Ipsos MORI, Con +5%,
Average Con lead 1.1%.0 -
Latest SPIN 24 seat lead for Toriesbigjohnowls said:
sEAN f Average lead poll of polls EICIPM!!!Sean_F said:
2% up from the most recent Survation poll, from the Mail on Sunday. 33% from Survation is a good score for the Tories, because of the big score the company gives to UKIP.Plato said:So is it Tories up 2 or not?
The state of the polls is therefore:-
Panelbase, Lab+2%,
Survation Lab +1%,
Populus, Yougov, Com Res tied,
TNS, Opinium, Con +1%,
Ashcroft Con 2%,
ICM, BGM Con +3%,
Ipsos MORI, Con +5%,
Average Con lead 1.1%.0 -
Why will what happens at Holyrood matter a toss?SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.
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As ever your political insight knows no start.Bond_James_Bond said:
Why will what happens at Holyrood matter a toss?SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.
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Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.0 -
I am really excited to see Dave booted out of Downing Street and replaced as leader. Nearly as excited as I am at the prospect of a Labour coalition government.Speedy said:
I think the prospect of a Cameron premiership under the thumb of Clegg and no EU referendum is equally appalling.HYUFD said:Speedy When they hover over their ballot papers and the prospect of a Miliband premiership under the thumb of Salmond and no EU referendum hovers into view I would not be surprised if a few stick with the blue team in the end
But just to see Cameron's face when he's booted out of No.10 tips the scales to UKIP with many of their voters.
Hopefully the EdStone is given a prominent location for the next 5 years.
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He's been working on the EdStone for the last 2 monthsOmnium said:I'm a little curious as to the aired thoughts of David Milliband in all this. Has he said anything?
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Without doubt - wonder why labour can't see the red flashing lights.SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.0 -
We've had crossover for the past fortnight. Just not good enough crossover for the Conservatives.Neil said:
You predicted consistent Labour leads right up until the GE. How did that work out for you?compouter2 said:Search is on going for Crossover January, Pulling away February and their mate Majority Winning Leads March. Rumours of them being murdered by the Labour Valentines Day Massacre or the Back after Easter Poll Leads have been dismissed. If any of the PB Hodges do find them can they send them to Rod Crosby as he has a Swingback that has also been missing for months.
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I was queueing to have my car washed at the Kosovan car wash in North Finchley on Saturday. Standing next to it was a UKIP canvasser trying to hand out anti-immigration leaflets to passers by.
Smart move.
Wonder if he went across to them and told them he wanted them all sent back?0 -
Women vote Conservative more strongly than men, so I don't think that one would work.Neil said:
What's the equivalent to stirring up fear over those dirty Arabs voting though? Cameron to tweet about "women being bused to polling stations in huge numbers" to scare UKIP supporters back into the fold?HYUFD said:SeanT UKIP is lower than its peak, and the drift of voters from rightwing parties to Likud in Israel only happened on election day
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So you don't know either.Neil said:
As ever your political insight knows no start.Bond_James_Bond said:
Why will what happens at Holyrood matter a toss?SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.0 -
David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.0 -
It seems a bit wrong though - somehow the future is supposed to contain sunlight, butterflys, and hills, and well frankly not Ed Milliband.SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.
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It's UKIP voters Cameron would be seeking to worry in this situation. But you're right - the obvious equivalent is not to tweet about women voting in large numbers but about students.JEO said:
Women vote Conservative more strongly than men, so I don't think that one would work.Neil said:
What's the equivalent to stirring up fear over those dirty Arabs voting though? Cameron to tweet about "women being bused to polling stations in huge numbers" to scare UKIP supporters back into the fold?HYUFD said:SeanT UKIP is lower than its peak, and the drift of voters from rightwing parties to Likud in Israel only happened on election day
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Coatbridge MP Tom Clarke winning his Monklands West seat in 1992 when he didn't have to worry about losing one of the safest Labour seats in Scotland to the SNP:
At 3:28:09
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARifiLUKwxA0 -
The #EdStone is chuckies. It will never be seen again.MP_SE said:
I am really excited to see Dave booted out of Downing Street and replaced as leader. Nearly as excited as I am at the prospect of a Labour coalition government.Speedy said:
I think the prospect of a Cameron premiership under the thumb of Clegg and no EU referendum is equally appalling.HYUFD said:Speedy When they hover over their ballot papers and the prospect of a Miliband premiership under the thumb of Salmond and no EU referendum hovers into view I would not be surprised if a few stick with the blue team in the end
But just to see Cameron's face when he's booted out of No.10 tips the scales to UKIP with many of their voters.
Hopefully the EdStone is given a prominent location for the next 5 years.0 -
I hereby concede to labour. I do hope you govern well with the SNP.0
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Maybe because there isn't a red flashing light, but a yellow one.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Without doubt - wonder why labour can't see the red flashing lights.SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.
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Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
A point obvious to everyone but themselves. They really do imagine everyone is as deranged as they are.0 -
The buzz going around those in the supposed 'know', is that the GE will see a substantially increase in voting numbers. If true, and not some random remark, then my hopes of a remarkable change may be realised.0
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Describing yourself as "The party of the working man" for 100 years tends to be bad when attitudes change even when you drop the slogan, the memory persists.JEO said:
Women vote Conservative more strongly than men, so I don't think that one would work.Neil said:
What's the equivalent to stirring up fear over those dirty Arabs voting though? Cameron to tweet about "women being bused to polling stations in huge numbers" to scare UKIP supporters back into the fold?HYUFD said:SeanT UKIP is lower than its peak, and the drift of voters from rightwing parties to Likud in Israel only happened on election day
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Like so many of your anecdotes, that somehow doesn't have the ring of truth.Bond_James_Bond said:I was queueing to have my car washed at the Kosovan car wash in North Finchley on Saturday. Standing next to it was a UKIP canvasser trying to hand out anti-immigration leaflets to passers by.
Smart move.
Wonder if he went across to them and told them he wanted them all sent back?0 -
Speedy Romney was not the incombent and did not face a major rightwing 3rd party candidate0
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Not these days they don't. Crossover happened in 2005.JEO said:
Women vote Conservative more strongly than men, so I don't think that one would work.Neil said:
What's the equivalent to stirring up fear over those dirty Arabs voting though? Cameron to tweet about "women being bused to polling stations in huge numbers" to scare UKIP supporters back into the fold?HYUFD said:SeanT UKIP is lower than its peak, and the drift of voters from rightwing parties to Likud in Israel only happened on election day
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Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English Language, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.0 -
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
You told me at Dirty Dicks you were definitely voting UKIP
Will that make you and several thousand others accessories!!0 -
SeanT Neil The principle is the same, voters drifting from rightwing minor parties to the main centre right party at the last moment, in Israel it was over fear of becoming run by Arabs, here it would be because of fear of being run by Scots0
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Dair No, all the polls show the most important issues for UKIP voters are the EU and immigration (which is linked to the EU anyway because of free movement)0
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It's also part of the job description. A lot better to be fretting about the worst case scenarios than thinking they're in the bag. It's also inevitable with the amount of data now that it creates that type of anxiety. If you've invested time and hope in Labour coming out with something which can be considered a win (a dead heat with the Tories given the rest of the arithmetic) then it makes sense that you'd be filled with dread over any data which gave the impression of losing. As it's clear no one's going to win outright, the focus is all on what could go wrong. Hence on the other side the nonsense that started happening when the Tories bodged the start of the campaign and Ed turned out to be able to stand up unaided.SeanT said:
I'm actually tempted to make a political bet (for the first time ever, outwith pb wagers). The groupthink Mike identifies is ridic.Speedy said:
It is amazing that Labour most seats is on 5.1, with only one poll out of nine showing Tory most seats.bigjohnowls said:Most seats market
LAB into 5.1 from 5.9
Con 1.2 out to 1.23
EICIPM market Mystic Dan does the trick as back to yesterdays levels after DH declares Dave the winner
Dave drifted like a barge in last 3 hours
And I reckon Casino nails the reason for Labour anxiety and depression, it's because they know that even if they win they will be forced into a horrible alliance with the SNP, a marriage made in Hades which could damage the party very badly, long term.
So I reckon half of them subconsciously don't want to win (that is, if they can't get an outright maj, which they can't) and this negativity is feeding through into overdone pessimism.
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The LibDems will not make any gains, I'm afraid, unless Dorothy pulls off something truly incredible. You'll be 5,000 behind in Oxwab.nichomar said:Wearing my orange tinted sun glasses and seven years of spani Sh beer and wine, possibly coupled with too much sun my take on lib dem prospects are
Scotland hold 4/5 there are reasons but no time to post them
We will lose
Burnley
Withington
Bradford East
May hold berwick but difficult
We will also lose
Cardiff Cental, BristolWest, Wells, Taunton, Somerton&Frome, the one in Norfolk, Brent Central, possibly Redcar
There will be gains, Watford, OXWAB, and possibly two others so net 52/53 gbut that is too silly so I'll settle for 40
Redcar is a dead cert loss, too I'm afraid. You've forgotten Norwich South.
LibDems 4-1 on 11-20 seats remains the greatest value bet of the election (although as the LibDems seem to be heading from 9% to 11% in the polls, I may be a loser on this one...)0 -
Clutching at straws comes to mindSpeedy said:
Maybe because there isn't a red flashing light, but a yellow one.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Without doubt - wonder why labour can't see the red flashing lights.SeanT said:On the upside, EICIPM for about a year.
EICIPMFAAY
His awful no-deal Coalition with the chortling Nats will last til next Holyrood elex, then collapse into the smoking timbers of its own burning contradictions. Labour will be charred in the disaster.0 -
Here in Brigg & Goole local Conservative activists have decamped to Pudsey to help - they must be confident here. Labour need a 5.9% swing in Brigg & Goole.
I'm a Labour supporter and wouldn't be surprised if Andrew Percy increased his majority
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Ach, Dair, haud yer wheesht. It fair gars the southron loons on PB grue when we aise the lied o our forefaithers ...Dair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.
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This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
I'm afraid you're absolutely right. The absolutism of Farage and some of the UKIP crowd which makes it seem like EFTA/EEA would be some kind of national disgrace turns off a lot of business that would otherwise be quite keen on Out.0 -
This is becoming increasingly absurd.HYUFD said:SeanT Neil The principle is the same, voters drifting from rightwing minor parties to the main centre right party at the last moment, in Israel it was over fear of becoming run by Arabs, here it would be because of fear of being run by Scots
Calm down HYUFD.0 -
You told me at Dirty Dicks you were definitely voting UKIPbigjohnowls said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
Will that make you and several thousand others accessories!!
I don't follow you?0 -
Interesting article from Lord A:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/election-2015-voting-tactically-has-become-more-fraught-in-new-political-order-10227034.html0 -
The public seem strangely unaware that the UK is sleepwalking into a minority Labour government. I am guessing there'll be a lot of surprised voters out there on May 9th wondering why their Ukip vote translated into so few MPs and how come the SNP will dictate events in the next parliament. The consolation for the Lib Dems is that today's poliing so far sees them on 10% which gives them an outside chance of beating Ukip's popular vote in the unlikely event the latter have as poor night as the shortly to become embarrassed Dan Hodges expects.0
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A lot of my family and friends who generally don't vote are quite worried about the prospect of a Labour government. Some of these people were Labour voters. Almost all of them are backing Tory or Lib Dem. One relative has not voted in 30 years and will be voting Tory.MikeK said:The buzz going around those in the supposed 'know', is that the GE will see a substantially increase in voting numbers. If true, and not some random remark, then my hopes of a remarkable change may be realised.
Maybe to the average person on the street the newspaper scare tactics are getting through. This does not appear to be reflected in the polling though.
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This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English Language, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
Yes, I agree with that. Although I would say UKIP has forced Cameron to commit to an EU referendum I think he otherwise wouldn't have held.
It badly needs moderate leadership.0 -
The thing which fascinates me most is that, once the result is known, all the pundits will start telling us how it was always obvious it was going to turn out the way it did.
If only one could read the runes without benefit of hindsight!0 -
Oh, they were talking about concrete barriers and blockhouses not a year ago. Nothing new there.Speedy said:
This is becoming increasingly absurd.HYUFD said:SeanT Neil The principle is the same, voters drifting from rightwing minor parties to the main centre right party at the last moment, in Israel it was over fear of becoming run by Arabs, here it would be because of fear of being run by Scots
Calm down HYUFD.
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Speedy You may not like it, but that is what happened, final polls had it neck and neck or Labour just in front Netanyahu said 'Arab voters are heading to the polling stations in droves' and he ended up with a clear lead and comfortably leading the largest party
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/17/binyamin-netanyahu-israel-arab-election0 -
Wouldnt he be best off getting in the TARDIS to the day before the INDY ref and telling no voters how badly it would go.Dair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
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My 55 pounds to hep the GOTV WILL make the difference but don't under estimate the Lib Dems resilience0
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Yes, I agree with that. Although I would say UKIP has forced Cameron to commit to an EU referendum I think he otherwise wouldn't have held.Casino_Royale said:
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English Language, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
It badly needs moderate leadership.
So long as UKIP and Farage is the official voice of Out, then Out will lose. And probably lose quite badly.0 -
I'm afraid you're absolutely right. The absolutism of Farage and some of the UKIP crowd which makes it seem like EFTA/EEA would be some kind of national disgrace turns off a lot of business that would otherwise be quite keen on Out.rcs1000 said:
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
Absolutely bang on. So frustrating.0 -
On the latest set of abusive Scottish Nationalist trolls of whom Nicola Sturgeon said
"The SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon,described the fracas as disgraceful and “absolutely nothing to do with the SNP”."
I see two of the three trolls who have nonconnection to tue SNP have just had their SNP membership suspended, and as we discovered the other day the third was a former SNP Candidate.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/snp-suspends-members-over-glasgow-protest-1-3763501
Glorious.
When will they notice that the Three Monkeys act has stopped working?
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I'm afraid you're absolutely right. The absolutism of Farage and some of the UKIP crowd which makes it seem like EFTA/EEA would be some kind of national disgrace turns off a lot of business that would otherwise be quite keen on Out.rcs1000 said:
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
With EFTA/EEA it would be easier to get businesses on board and is less uncertain than a complete withdrawal. Richard North's book Flexit covers this option. It is not something I have read but intend to.0 -
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
I can never quite understand UKIP. They seem to now have a large number of normal, down-to-Earth spokesmen, and I've met a lot of very thoughtful UKIP supporters over the years. Yet they still put up some absolute nutcases as candidates. It would do them a world of good if they just asked every candidate a dozen or so questions about their views on race, homosexuality, and the new world order. For their next leader they need someone who is less of a showman and more willing to do the hard graft of sorting out the party.0 -
BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private schoolDair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.
ROFL it really is 24/7 paranoid bollocks with you Dair. Plain barking.0 -
Cameron will not promise to disenfranchise everyone one who is not jewish and annex the West Bank, like Netanyahu promised in order to get the far-right vote.HYUFD said:Speedy You may not like it, but that is what happened, final polls had it neck and neck or Labour just in front Netanyahu said 'Arab voters are heading to the polling stations in droves' and he ended up with a clear lead and comfortably leading the largest party
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/17/binyamin-netanyahu-israel-arab-election
And I'm stopping this conversation now, before I fall to the same level of hypothetical absurdity as you have.
The Tories are set to lose the election with 48hrs to go, get over it and plan for the next election.0 -
Wow - it's that bad for Labour? Not tying into the national poll picture which looks much rosier...Franklin said:Here in Brigg & Goole local Conservative activists have decamped to Pudsey to help - they must be confident here. Labour need a 5.9% swing in Brigg & Goole.
I'm a Labour supporter and wouldn't be surprised if Andrew Percy increased his majority
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I don't follow you?Casino_Royale said:
You told me at Dirty Dicks you were definitely voting UKIPbigjohnowls said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
Will that make you and several thousand others accessories!!
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena
Is Blay not the UKIP candidate?
Maybe i got hold of wrong end of stick?0 -
Speedy The entire Tory final campaign has been built on Miliband being in Sturgeon and Salmond's pocket, EVEL and an EU referendum, time will tell if it hits home.0
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Nope their fundamental belief is the need to leave the EU and Cameron will not allow that under any circumstances.HYUFD said:Dair Their fundamental belief is for an EU referendum and only 1 PM will give them that
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I know its unlikely, but if events in Scotland over the last 48 hours shift some support back to LAB and they end up on 30%, how many seats would fall back to them from the SNP?0
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This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
But, far more people care about immoderate, statist, anti-immigrant policies than about wonkish libertarian Euroscepticism. Democracy works and the Nice Eurosceptic party would do about as well as the New Whigs or Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol. Cameron was definitely right about Twitter and he may yet prove to be right about Ukip, even if he wasn't at the time.0 -
Brigg and Goole is target 86murali_s said:
Wow - it's that bad for Labour? Not tying into the national poll picture which looks much rosier...Franklin said:Here in Brigg & Goole local Conservative activists have decamped to Pudsey to help - they must be confident here. Labour need a 5.9% swing in Brigg & Goole.
I'm a Labour supporter and wouldn't be surprised if Andrew Percy increased his majority
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So long as UKIP and Farage is the official voice of Out, then Out will lose. And probably lose quite badly.rcs1000 said:
Yes, I agree with that. Although I would say UKIP has forced Cameron to commit to an EU referendum I think he otherwise wouldn't have held.Casino_Royale said:
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English Language, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
It badly needs moderate leadership.
Whether we like it or not, it is immigration that matters most to the British public. If Cameron negotiates reasonable limits on immigration In will win. If the Better Off Out campaign can claim "they only way to stop open borders is to leave", then Out will win. Referenda are not about personalities, but issues.0 -
oops, looks like I no longer have a UKIP candidate to vote for http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-56415370
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I can never quite understand UKIP. They seem to now have a large number of normal, down-to-Earth spokesmen, and I've met a lot of very thoughtful UKIP supporters over the years. Yet they still put up some absolute nutcases as candidates. It would do them a world of good if they just asked every candidate a dozen or so questions about their views on race, homosexuality, and the new world order. For their next leader they need someone who is less of a showman and more willing to do the hard graft of sorting out the party.JEO said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Well that is simple, the large number of UKIP members are new ones, it takes time for party members to rise up the ranks to the level of candidates in GE, in the next election they will probably make up the lions share of GE candidates, but not in this one.0 -
It has stopped working among people who already hate them. We will see on the 7th whether it has stopped working among waverers, but it is undoubtedly advantageous to them to have all elements of nationalism on their side, from the calmest and most moderate to the angriest and most intemperate.MattW said:On the latest set of abusive Scottish Nationalist trolls of whom Nicola Sturgeon said
"The SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon,described the fracas as disgraceful and “absolutely nothing to do with the SNP”."
I see two of the three trolls who have nonconnection to tue SNP have just had their SNP membership suspended, and as we discovered the other day the third was a former SNP Candidate.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/snp-suspends-members-over-glasgow-protest-1-3763501
Glorious.
When will they notice that the Three Monkeys act has stopped working?0 -
Maybe you don't understand the BBC. It has language guidelines which have to be adhered to by reporters. If BBC Scotland has started using the term "public" school for private schools then the term is being approved and authorised by the BBC Trust. The BBC has historically used the correct terms "private" or "independent", usually the latter.Alanbrooke said:
BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private schoolDair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.
ROFL it really is 24/7 paranoid bollocks with you Dair. Plain barking.
This is a change in BBC policy. Any specifically provocative language change by the BBC is a policy decision and their journalists are well aware of it.
It is possible BBC Scotland are ignoring the BBC Trust rules. They continue to do so when referring to Rangers, continually questioning their status as a continuing club founded in 1872. The Trust has actually ruled on this but BBC Scotland continue to break the Trust rules. It is possible this is a BBC Scotland decision against Trust guidelines.0 -
My ticket is now booked for the Finborough Arms for Thursday night.
Who from here is also going?0 -
I'm afraid you're absolutely right. The absolutism of Farage and some of the UKIP crowd which makes it seem like EFTA/EEA would be some kind of national disgrace turns off a lot of business that would otherwise be quite keen on Out.rcs1000 said:
This is why I think UKIP are the worst thing to happen to the Eurosceptic movement/Better off out.TheScreamingEagles said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Being in favour of that is now associated with opposition to gay marriage, dislike of foreigners/non whites/non Brits.
What UKIP is needs is the likes of Richard Tyndall/Sean Fear front and centre otherwise David Cameron is going to be associated with two unique contributions to the English, one about Twitter and one about the fruitcakes.
All parties have there stupids; this suspended kipper is an ex Tory, so go figure. A kipper was badly beaten up by 5 thugs yesterday. The fact is UKIP is growing and getting stronger and both @TSE and @rcs1000 cannot stand it, hence their bile and a smear whenever they see a chance.0 -
I can never quite understand UKIP. They seem to now have a large number of normal, down-to-Earth spokesmen, and I've met a lot of very thoughtful UKIP supporters over the years. Yet they still put up some absolute nutcases as candidates. It would do them a world of good if they just asked every candidate a dozen or so questions about their views on race, homosexuality, and the new world order. For their next leader they need someone who is less of a showman and more willing to do the hard graft of sorting out the party.JEO said:
Certainly not. That video shows that man to be deeply unpleasant. I have a wife who originates from Eastern Europe.Casino_Royale said:
Are you still dithering about whether to vote for UKIP?antifrank said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
People like this are an absolute disgrace. They could set back the cause of UK independence from the EU for decades.
Yes, I think UKIP have a real problem with candidate selection. There really is no excuse for getting it this wrong - on, let's face it, far more than one occasion.
I might easily have ordered a postal vote, already voted for this guy, returned it, and now been able to do absolutely nothing about it.
That makes me feel slightly sick.0 -
Sheer cringe at the sycophancy0
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Nuttier than ever, is anything not a plot ?Dair said:
Maybe you don't understand the BBC. It has language guidelines which have to be adhered to by reporters. If BBC Scotland has started using the term "public" school for private schools then the term is being approved and authorised by the BBC Trust. The BBC has historically used the correct terms "private" or "independent", usually the latter.Alanbrooke said:
BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private schoolDair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.
ROFL it really is 24/7 paranoid bollocks with you Dair. Plain barking.
This is a change in BBC policy. Any specifically provocative language change by the BBC is a policy decision and their journalists are well aware of it.
It is possible BBC Scotland are ignoring the BBC Trust rules. They continue to do so when referring to Rangers, continually questioning their status as a continuing club founded in 1872. The Trust has actually ruled on this but BBC Scotland continue to break the Trust rules. It is possible this is a BBC Scotland decision against Trust guidelines.0 -
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardenabigjohnowls said:
I don't follow you?Casino_Royale said:
You told me at Dirty Dicks you were definitely voting UKIPbigjohnowls said:
Wow. That's my seat.Casino_Royale said:Plato said:More gaiety. mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-blay-ukip-suspends-parliamentary-5641537#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Robert Blay, who is standing in North East Hampshire, made the shocking threat of violence against Conservative Ranil Jayawardena.
Former bank accountant Blay, 55, who used to be a member of the Conservative Party, told our reporter that Jayawardena had been tipped to potentially be the country’s first British Asian Prime Minister.
And in a vile and shocking outburst, he raged: “If he is I will personally put a bullet between his eyes.
"If this lad turns up to be our Prime Minister I will personally put a bullet in him. That’s how strong I feel about it.
“I won’t have this f***** as our Prime Minister. I absolutely loathe him.”
The shocking remarks were made to a Daily Mirror investigator at a public meeting on Saturday attended by party leader Nigel Farage.
A UKIP spokesman said tonight: “"Mr Blay has been suspended with immediate effect".
Will that make you and several thousand others accessories!!
Is Blay not the UKIP candidate?
Maybe i got hold of wrong end of stick?
Crossed wires BJO. That's correct, but I finally decided to vote Conservative in the last month.
The (strong) push was EICIPM and the pull was the Conservative manifesto, which is the best I think I could realistically have hoped for.0 -
Final Ashcroft coming Thursday AM0
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As many predicted here, that strategy was a failure, is a failure and always be a failure.HYUFD said:Speedy The entire Tory final campaign has been built on Miliband being in Sturgeon and Salmond's pocket, EVEL and an EU referendum, time will tell if it hits home.
I predict that you will ask for the Tory campaign's head on a plate in about 54 hours from now for that stupid strategy.
Goodnight.0 -
If its something the SNP did, sure.Alanbrooke said:
Nuttier than ever, is anything not a plot ?Dair said:
Maybe you don't understand the BBC. It has language guidelines which have to be adhered to by reporters. If BBC Scotland has started using the term "public" school for private schools then the term is being approved and authorised by the BBC Trust. The BBC has historically used the correct terms "private" or "independent", usually the latter.Alanbrooke said:
BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private schoolDair said:David Tennant SLAB advert is risible. All about the past, past, past.
Interestingly BBC Scotland are not scheduling it separately. It is officially part of the Reporting Scotland news bulletin. BBC Scotland also trying to Unionise the language referring to Gordonstoun as a "public" school when it's a private school.
ROFL it really is 24/7 paranoid bollocks with you Dair. Plain barking.
This is a change in BBC policy. Any specifically provocative language change by the BBC is a policy decision and their journalists are well aware of it.
It is possible BBC Scotland are ignoring the BBC Trust rules. They continue to do so when referring to Rangers, continually questioning their status as a continuing club founded in 1872. The Trust has actually ruled on this but BBC Scotland continue to break the Trust rules. It is possible this is a BBC Scotland decision against Trust guidelines.0 -
Please could someone kindly tell me what EICIPM means?
Many thanks!0 -
From electoralcalculus, using the populus uk-wide numbers and Scotland numbers of 18 for con, 4 for LD:AllyPally_Rob said:I know its unlikely, but if events in Scotland over the last 48 hours shift some support back to LAB and they end up on 30%, how many seats would fall back to them from the SNP?
SNP 49, Lab 25 = 54 for nats, 5 for lab
SNP 44, Lab 30 = 42 for nats, 14 for lab
SNP 39, Lab 35 = 29 for nats, 23 for lab
I may be off slightly but I think that's approximately it0 -
I wonder if some of the group think and betting is based on the judgement, the Tories look blatantly more competent and deserve to win, the British people must eventually notice this, therefore they will win.
What if they don't? The evidence suggests the people are about to make a dreadful mistake0
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