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They is when he gets a free ride,other leaders tried it and interrupted by cook.TheScreamingEagles said:Were Labour to lose the election, the best thing they could do, is pick Jim Murphy to replace Ed Miliband.
There's a fire in his belly.
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It's just the usual "SNP Bad" people think she's failing. She has made a mistake - quite a big one, yet done remarkably well for most of it.Plato said:This is confusing me. Ms Sturgeon seems to be trying to be responsible as that's her role - but simultaneously doing the Magic Money thing.
Is that why she's struggling. It's a very mixed message to my ears.0 -
I don't agree with his politics but Murphy is a strong debate performer; a much stronger Scottish Labour leader than those I have seen in recent years.0
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Merely coincidentialantifrank said:
Is this by any chance connected to a betting slip?TheScreamingEagles said:Were Labour to lose the election, the best thing they could do, is pick Jim Murphy to replace Ed Miliband.
There's a fire in his belly.0 -
The non doms still pay UK taxes on UK revenue - £8.3 billion last tax year. Not bad for non-payers of taxes.Cyclefree said:
Tightening the rules on non-doms is not necessarily a left-wing policy. If you choose to live in a country you should jolly well contribute by paying taxes on the same basis as everyone else. I pay taxes at pretty high marginal rates - and both my parents were immigrants - and I am fed up with others inheriting a tax domicile that allows them to live in the same country with the same advantages but pay tax on a lesser and more favourable basis, as if paying tax were some optional hobby.SMukesh said:About non-doms,I think Labour could have done better on a bomb-shell of a policy.
And the Tories have done as well as they could with a popular left-wing policy.
The devil is in the detail, of course, which is where Labour tend to fall over their own shoelaces. But there is something very unappealing about very rich people complaining about being asked to comtribute and saying they'll leave if they don't get things their own way.
Blackmail is still blackmail, whether it's done by some union leader threatening strikes or some wealthy foreigner threatening to leave.
Our economy - even in London - has to amount to more than just servicing the needs of the spoilt rich.
Why not get some facts before ranting?0 -
Wow...where did they get this audience from?0
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Quite. Con, UKIP and 75% of Lab would be in favour. SNP and Greens against. LDs split.Artist said:This talk of Trident is pointless, it would easily pass the House of Commons with or without the SNP.
Outside Scotland (and Brighton maybe) there's no discussion about Trident as an issue, it's assumed that it will be renewed at the appropriate time.0 -
Nicola can thank the Lord that the UKIP bloke has been allowed onto this debate.0
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Ferrets in a sack.0
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Huzzah for Sturgeon putting the vile Coburn in his place over Humza Yousaf0
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I have the same betting slip.TheScreamingEagles said:
Merely coincidentialantifrank said:
Is this by any chance connected to a betting slip?TheScreamingEagles said:Were Labour to lose the election, the best thing they could do, is pick Jim Murphy to replace Ed Miliband.
There's a fire in his belly.
I'm intrigued to know how the Conservatives are going to make better use of Ruth Davidson.0 -
Not everyone's going to head for Geneva en masse on the next flight from Heathrow, but some will, and it doesn't take may billionaires to start creating a shortfall. The point is we don't know where the balance lies hence my view we proceed slowly ratcheting up the non dom "fee" to test the real elasticity of demand so to speak. If you just " ban the lot pronto" a la Ed M this morning ( since seemingly rowed back on by Ed Balls) you risk a nasty revenue fall surprise, and it'll be thee and me asked to make up the difference.marktheowl said:
So where will these people go to? The USA - doesn't have such a thing as non-dom status. France? It's a socialist nightmare so we hear. A tax haven? You'll have a job commuting to work in the city every day or going out for dinner in Mayfair - if someone's minded to go to the inconvenience they probably are already. It's getting rid of an unfair anomaly in the system. Claiming 'all rich people will leave' is getting a little bit like the boy who cried wolf - yes, if you raise taxation to punitive levels, people will leave, but pretending the rich will all decamp en masse at a change which brings us into line with most other countries, or every tinker with the tax code is daft. Even Cameron and Osborne know this, hence why the two main attack lines are that they're doing things already, and that Balls is contradicting himself (quoting him very selectively - it hardly seems up there with 'kick me out if I don't cut immigration'). When Tories have made that argument it's been half-heartedly as a way of deflating enthusiasm for it rather than outraged opposition.taffys said:BBC's Have Your Say is unimpressed with this policy proposal. That surprised me.
Really? When you think of it, this is a de facto shift of the burden of taxation from the wealthy to the ordinary man in the street.
We ban non doms.
They leave.
We have to make up the tax shortfall.
It's a win for Labour but a minor one, anyone thinking it will shift the polls needs to sober up. I think most people will like the idea, as it seems a fair one, but probably know that it's pretty small beer in the scheme of things.0 -
They did take a big turn in giving him a well deserved kicking....SouthamObserver said:Nicola can thank the Lord that the UKIP bloke has been allowed onto this debate.
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Nicola has put herself in a very bad corner. I doubt it's going to change attitudes but every time she makes a point about poverty or the disabled or anything on those lines, whoever is debating her just has to say "that you making political points off the backs of the most vulnerable again?"
Voters though, will generally just think "oor Nicola got bullied by all those others".0 -
The communist party gathering.Slackbladder said:Wow...where did they get this audience from?
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Scott P
I see you embarassed yourself by quoting Iain Martin again - you really do pick em!
I thought that in the ddebate Murphy finally lost it with Coburn. Understandable to a degree because the UKIP guy is a clown. However Sturgeon showed how to deal with him and that doesn't include behaving just like him!0 -
The only conclusion from tonight debate I have is that with 6 leaders, one hour is probably too little time to cover enough issues0
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She's a star, I get the feeling, whilst she perceives the Union to be under threat, she's going to stay in Holyrood.antifrank said:
I have the same betting slip.TheScreamingEagles said:
Merely coincidentialantifrank said:
Is this by any chance connected to a betting slip?TheScreamingEagles said:Were Labour to lose the election, the best thing they could do, is pick Jim Murphy to replace Ed Miliband.
There's a fire in his belly.
I'm intrigued to know how the Conservatives are going to make better use of Ruth Davidson.
She'd do well in Westminster.0 -
I expect the ban hammer of doom to be applied promptlyPBModerator said:
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Well your right there's certainly no discussion about Trident outside Scotland. But then there's not really a discussion about anything else going on either. I've no idea what support for Trident renewal is like in opinion polls. I wouldn't consider it a foregone conclusion.Sandpit said:
Quite. Con, UKIP and 75% of Lab would be in favour. SNP and Greens against. LDs split.Artist said:This talk of Trident is pointless, it would easily pass the House of Commons with or without the SNP.
Outside Scotland (and Brighton maybe) there's no discussion about Trident as an issue, it's assumed that it will be renewed at the appropriate time.0 -
Davidson,Murphy,Sturgeon,Green party man did well.
UKIP man would have gone down a treat in England,they hated him up there.
Will Rennie too quiet.0 -
Where are these to be held, I am free sunday night.NickPalmer said:
Anna and I have 3 debates in 5 days from Sunday (Sun, Mon, Thur). Should be fun. There are two more soon afterwards. Traditionally, Broxtowe debates till the cows come home - I think we had 7 last time, all of them seen as more or less score draws.FrankBooth said:
3 debates in 6 days and 2 inside 24 hours is a bit much.SouthamObserver said:It'll make no difference, but Sturgeon is being monstered here. She is completely losing it. At least she is better than the UKIP bloke
Poldark or Politics - no contest!0 -
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Which party was the middle panelist - Am raiding in WoW atm so only half listening/watching - Was he another Scottish Labour ?0
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With the clip whizzing across the web, Mr Balls needed to explain his U-turn. Abruptly he stopped doing interviews, and worked frenziedly on a statement.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11522877/General-election-2015-sketch-Ed-Ballss-non-dom-nightmare.html
I don’t know who advised him on that statement – David Icke, perhaps – but their strategy was clear: put it all down to a big, stinking conspiracy. “The Tories edited my interview,” Mr Balls protested. “My interview with the BBC in January was fully consistent with the announcement today.”
Since the clip showed him saying that the abolition would cost money rather than raise it, this claim of consistency was nakedly untrue.
God knows what Mr Balls was like at school. “Sorry, Miss. The dog edited my homework.”0 -
Not up to it according to MikeTykejohnno said:
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Sturgeon ganged up on tonight but she held her ground0 -
@euanmccolm: joy unconfined in tory hq at sturgeon's determination to press for full fiscal autonomy, i'd have thought.0
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BBC Scotland's James Cook. So yes, another SLAB boy.Pulpstar said:Which party was the middle panelist - Am raiding in WoW atm so only half listening/watching - Was he another Scottish Labour ?
He's the one who established #Frenchgate was a lie then spent 48hrs repeating the claim all over the BBC.0 -
Pretty much from the looks of itPulpstar said:Which party was the middle panelist - Am raiding in WoW atm so only half listening/watching - Was he another Scottish Labour ?
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I can respect Ruth Davidson because she believes in what she says even if I don't agree with it. That Murphy though is just a gravy train scrounger and the BBC are subsidy junkies who don't want anything to change no matter how effed it is.0
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"Tongue sandwiches? Bleah! Eat what? But it's been in somebody else's mouth!"John_M said:
Ox tongue is a delicacy. Black pudding is delicious, either with fat or oatmeal. I just love offal in general; it's cheaper, tastier and usually more nutritious than 'normal' meat.Plato said:I notice nobody has confessed to eating tongue...
welshowl said:
It's not like either really in my view at least. Not as "dense" in taste or certainly texture. But we may all taste things slightly differently I suppose. We'll never know!Plato said:Ah ha! Controversy!
I expected it to be like kidney or liver in terms of taste. Love liver, hate kidney [the smell makes me want to barf]welshowl said:@Ms Plato
The white bits are fat in black pudding, though there may be barley in some versions. It's a bit like a very dry sausage (fat aside) in terms of texture. Not quite certain how to describe the taste- slightly dry meaty but not very strong.
Quote from Sir Henry at Rawlinson End.
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sell SNP at mid-twenties.nigel4england said:
Not up to it according to MikeTykejohnno said:
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"As a one-off, this might be acceptable but there's a wholly undesirable anti-rich, anti-success, anti-business element to Labour's campaigning that needs challenging and defeating before it does the country serious harm. Or, alternatively, Labour needs to demonstrate that it would do serious harm."
It's only the result of Tory ineptness that Labour have been able to run with this hare for so long. It started in a very small way when the gauche presenter Clarkson punched his junior for not getting him a steak. A smiling Cameron told us in effect that's what masters of the universe do so get used to it.... It was a parable for the next fortnight.
Then the letter from the businessmen to The Telegraph. Being lectured on the need for austerity by self interested multi millionaire Tory donors didn't didn't make people feel we were all in this together particularly when a smiling Cameron announced that it conclusively proved that business men didn't trust Labour.......
Today was a step change. This was nothing to do with business people not trusting Labour. This was confirmation that in Toryworld the new royalty are multi millionaire business men and rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply to them. I don't think voters will like it.0 -
No thanks!Alistair said:
sell SNP at mid-twenties.nigel4england said:
Not up to it according to MikeTykejohnno said:
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Let's see if anyone can find a recording of the Defence Secretary in January saying we should scrap Trident...Tykejohnno said:
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Rewriting history the Ed Balls way.Roger said:David
"As a one-off, this might be acceptable but there's a wholly undesirable anti-rich, anti-success, anti-business element to Labour's campaigning that needs challenging and defeating before it does the country serious harm. Or, alternatively, Labour needs to demonstrate that it would do serious harm."
It's only the result of Tory ineptness that Labour have been able to run with this hare for so long. It started in a very small way when the gauche presenter Clarkson punched his junior for not getting him a steak. A smiling Cameron told us in effect that's what masters of the universe do so get used to it.... It was a parable for the next fortnight.
Then the letter from the businessmen to The Telegraph. Being lectured on the need for austerity by self interested multi millionaire Tory donors didn't didn't make people feel we were all in this together particularly when a smiling Cameron announced that it conclusively proved that business men didn't trust Labour.......
Today was a step change. This was nothing to do with business people not trusting Labour. This was confirmation that in Toryworld the new royalty are multi millionaire business men and rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply to them. I don't think voters will like it.0 -
@TelePolitics: Tories: Ed Miliband will leave UK open to 'nuclear blackmail' if he does deal with SNP http://t.co/WSfi1Qmkue
As confirmed by Nicola in Aberdeen0 -
It actually confirmed two things:Roger said:David
"As a one-off, this might be acceptable but there's a wholly undesirable anti-rich, anti-success, anti-business element to Labour's campaigning that needs challenging and defeating before it does the country serious harm. Or, alternatively, Labour needs to demonstrate that it would do serious harm."
It's only the result of Tory ineptness that Labour have been able to run with this hare for so long. It started in a very small way when the gauche presenter Clarkson punched his junior for not getting him a steak. A smiling Cameron told us in effect that's what masters of the universe do so get used to it.... It was a parable for the next fortnight.
Then the letter from the businessmen to The Telegraph. Being lectured on the need for austerity by self interested multi millionaire Tory donors didn't didn't make people feel we were all in this together particularly when a smiling Cameron announced that it conclusively proved that business men didn't trust Labour.......
Today was a step change. This was nothing to do with business people not trusting Labour. This was confirmation that in Toryworld the new royalty are multi millionaire business men and rules that apply to the rest of us don't apply to them. I don't think voters will like it.
1. Labour are much more interested in punishing the wealthy than raising the tax take, party before country every time.
2. It also confirmed that Labour do not understand economics.0 -
Now we know the SNP is in favour of Full Fiscal Autonomy from next year will they say where the cuts will be made?0
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Oblitus Quebec shows the issue would be over
Overall a reasonable night for Murphy tonight, and for Davidson and Rennie, not great for Sturgeon but no disaster, Harvie barely got a look in and where he did who looked well off to the margins, Cockburn played the panto villain well, went down badly with most, but might play better with his few target voters0 -
We're supposed to be grateful, are we, that people living here paid some tax! FFS - let's grow a pair as a country. By all means, be open for business and investment but there is no earthly reason why we have to cow-tow to the demands of a few rich people.weejonnie said:
The non doms still pay UK taxes on UK revenue - £8.3 billion last tax year. Not bad for non-payers of taxes.Cyclefree said:
Tightening the rules on non-doms is not necessarily a left-wing policy. If you choose to live in a country you should jolly well contribute by paying taxes on the same basis as everyone else. I pay taxes at pretty high marginal rates - and both my parents were immigrants - and I am fed up with others inheriting a tax domicile that allows them to live in the same country with the same advantages but pay tax on a lesser and more favourable basis, as if paying tax were some optional hobby.SMukesh said:About non-doms,I think Labour could have done better on a bomb-shell of a policy.
And the Tories have done as well as they could with a popular left-wing policy.
The devil is in the detail, of course, which is where Labour tend to fall over their own shoelaces. But there is something very unappealing about very rich people complaining about being asked to comtribute and saying they'll leave if they don't get things their own way.
Blackmail is still blackmail, whether it's done by some union leader threatening strikes or some wealthy foreigner threatening to leave.
Our economy - even in London - has to amount to more than just servicing the needs of the spoilt rich.
Why not get some facts before ranting?
If I - a non-Labour supporter - can see the merits in tightening the rules so that people do not take advantage unfairly those who are reacting as if Labour had proposed the slaughter of the first born are, I would suggest, a tad out of touch with how this will play with people who feel that governments (from New Labour on) have been rather too concerned with what a few rich people think rather than the rather larger number of the rest of us.
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The Tories edited the crash of 2008. Gordon had abolished Boom and Bust so it can't have happened while he was in charge...TheWatcher said:Rewriting history the Ed Balls way.
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@michaelsavage: Tories are considering a plan to bar the sons & daughters of the super-rich from inheriting "non-dom" status. See tomorrow's Times. #GE20150
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Cyclefree
"Tightening the rules on non-doms is not necessarily a left-wing policy.............."'
Very good post Cyclefree.
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And just as we say that, it looks like the Tories are running with Trident as a manifesto commitment tomorrow. Good on them.FrankBooth said:
Well your right there's certainly no discussion about Trident outside Scotland. But then there's not really a discussion about anything else going on either. I've no idea what support for Trident renewal is like in opinion polls. I wouldn't consider it a foregone conclusion.Sandpit said:
Quite. Con, UKIP and 75% of Lab would be in favour. SNP and Greens against. LDs split.Artist said:This talk of Trident is pointless, it would easily pass the House of Commons with or without the SNP.
Outside Scotland (and Brighton maybe) there's no discussion about Trident as an issue, it's assumed that it will be renewed at the appropriate time.
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Mike
You should audition for a job with BBC Scotland. With your solid anti SNP views you are just the sort of chap they are looking for!
I thought Coburn demonstrated why it is a problem to put UKIP on a panel and expect coherent debate, Harvey underperformed this evening (he is better than he showed), Rennie was marginally better than yesterday when he was trully awful, Davidson worse than yesterday when she was good, Strugeon held her ground well under a four pronged assault and finally Murphy looks far to often like he is about to go right over the edge. Apart from Coburn he is just about the least likable performer on television.0 -
Reminds me of the old student joke about fish fingers - one wouldn't want to eat them, where had they been?dr_spyn said:
"Tongue sandwiches? Bleah! Eat what? But it's been in somebody else's mouth!"John_M said:
Ox tongue is a delicacy. Black pudding is delicious, either with fat or oatmeal. I just love offal in general; it's cheaper, tastier and usually more nutritious than 'normal' meat.Plato said:I notice nobody has confessed to eating tongue...
welshowl said:
It's not like either really in my view at least. Not as "dense" in taste or certainly texture. But we may all taste things slightly differently I suppose. We'll never know!Plato said:Ah ha! Controversy!
I expected it to be like kidney or liver in terms of taste. Love liver, hate kidney [the smell makes me want to barf]welshowl said:@Ms Plato
The white bits are fat in black pudding, though there may be barley in some versions. It's a bit like a very dry sausage (fat aside) in terms of texture. Not quite certain how to describe the taste- slightly dry meaty but not very strong.
Quote from Sir Henry at Rawlinson End.
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Here's what I would cut if I were John Swinney.SouthamObserver said:Now we know the SNP is in favour of Full Fiscal Autonomy from next year will they say where the cuts will be made?
Payment to Westminster for London debt - £5bn
Overpayment to Westminster for Defence - cut £1.5bn (40%)
Payment to Westminster for "UK Spending" - cut £2bn (85%)
Scottish surplus with OIl Minimum £1.5bn
Nice. Extra money for public spending or freedon to slash taxes.0 -
Just enough to slaughter the Lost Deposit party though.MikeSmithson said:
Basically Sturgeon is not up to it.Itwasrigged said:Cook destroyed the last shred of credibility he had left. Welcome to the Jim Murphy show, the anal riming of Murphy is becoming nauseating.
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Yep, Sturgeon mistake pride of place in BBC News summary.
That statement is really going to hurt her personally. Shouldn't hurt the SNP.0 -
ElectionForecast's latest prediction puts Labour on 270, an increase from 2010 of just 12 seats:
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You omitted the punch line: "I'll have an egg".dr_spyn said:
"Tongue sandwiches? Bleah! Eat what? But it's been in somebody else's mouth!"John_M said:
Ox tongue is a delicacy. Black pudding is delicious, either with fat or oatmeal. I just love offal in general; it's cheaper, tastier and usually more nutritious than 'normal' meat.Plato said:I notice nobody has confessed to eating tongue...
welshowl said:
It's not like either really in my view at least. Not as "dense" in taste or certainly texture. But we may all taste things slightly differently I suppose. We'll never know!Plato said:Ah ha! Controversy!
I expected it to be like kidney or liver in terms of taste. Love liver, hate kidney [the smell makes me want to barf]welshowl said:@Ms Plato
The white bits are fat in black pudding, though there may be barley in some versions. It's a bit like a very dry sausage (fat aside) in terms of texture. Not quite certain how to describe the taste- slightly dry meaty but not very strong.
Quote from Sir Henry at Rawlinson End.
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I have them on 270 in the competition, I think they are copying me.AndyJS said:ElectionForecast's latest prediction puts Labour on 270, an increase from 2010 of just 12 seats:
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Brian Taylor on BBC Less likely than otherwise Sturgeon will make a manifesto commitment for another referendum unless a material change of circumstances eg an EU exit-1
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And on the BBC news they run that line in the small video of quotes from the debate.(must be the pro-Labour bias...)Dair said:Nicola has put herself in a very bad corner. I doubt it's going to change attitudes but every time she makes a point about poverty or the disabled or anything on those lines, whoever is debating her just has to say "that you making political points off the backs of the most vulnerable again?"
Voters though, will generally just think "oor Nicola got bullied by all those others".0 -
I too can see the merits of tightening the rules ( slowly ) but in a world that is more mobile and interconnected than ever both from a personal and capital perspective (especially for the mega rich) you've got to tread with caution ( even if holding one's nose so to speak).Cyclefree said:
We're supposed to be grateful, are we, that people living here paid some tax! FFS - let's grow a pair as a country. By all means, be open for business and investment but there is no earthly reason why we have to cow-tow to the demands of a few rich people.weejonnie said:
The non doms still pay UK taxes on UK revenue - £8.3 billion last tax year. Not bad for non-payers of taxes.Cyclefree said:
Tightening the rules on non-doms is not necessarily a left-wing policy. If you choose to live in a country you should jolly well contribute by paying taxes on the same basis as everyone else. I pay taxes at pretty high marginal rates - and both my parents were immigrants - and I am fed up with others inheriting a tax domicile that allows them to live in the same country with the same advantages but pay tax on a lesser and more favourable basis, as if paying tax were some optional hobby.SMukesh said:About non-doms,I think Labour could have done better on a bomb-shell of a policy.
And the Tories have done as well as they could with a popular left-wing policy.
The devil is in the detail, of course, which is where Labour tend to fall over their own shoelaces. But there is something very unappealing about very rich people complaining about being asked to comtribute and saying they'll leave if they don't get things their own way.
Blackmail is still blackmail, whether it's done by some union leader threatening strikes or some wealthy foreigner threatening to leave.
Our economy - even in London - has to amount to more than just servicing the needs of the spoilt rich.
Why not get some facts before ranting?
If I - a non-Labour supporter - can see the merits in tightening the rules so that people do not take advantage unfairly those who are reacting as if Labour had proposed the slaughter of the first born are, I would suggest, a tad out of touch with how this will play with people who feel that governments (from New Labour on) have been rather too concerned with what a few rich people think rather than the rather larger number of the rest of us.0 -
Ishmael_X said:
You omitted the punch line: "I'll have an egg".dr_spyn said:
"Tongue sandwiches? Bleah! Eat what? But it's been in somebody else's mouth!"John_M said:
Ox tongue is a delicacy. Black pudding is delicious, either with fat or oatmeal. I just love offal in general; it's cheaper, tastier and usually more nutritious than 'normal' meat.Plato said:I notice nobody has confessed to eating tongue...
welshowl said:
It's not like either really in my view at least. Not as "dense" in taste or certainly texture. But we may all taste things slightly differently I suppose. We'll never know!Plato said:Ah ha! Controversy!
I expected it to be like kidney or liver in terms of taste. Love liver, hate kidney [the smell makes me want to barf]welshowl said:@Ms Plato
The white bits are fat in black pudding, though there may be barley in some versions. It's a bit like a very dry sausage (fat aside) in terms of texture. Not quite certain how to describe the taste- slightly dry meaty but not very strong.
Quote from Sir Henry at Rawlinson End.
A fine film.
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To Murphy You're shamefully using the most vulnerable to make a political point".Cyclefree said:
What was the mistake please?Dair said:Yep, Sturgeon mistake pride of place in BBC News summary.
That statement is really going to hurt her personally. Shouldn't hurt the SNP.
Terrible soundbite for anyone on the left (tbh for anyone, left right or centre but especially left).0 -
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Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
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@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%0
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Thank you!Dair said:
To Murphy You're shamefully using the most vulnerable to make a political point".Cyclefree said:
What was the mistake please?Dair said:Yep, Sturgeon mistake pride of place in BBC News summary.
That statement is really going to hurt her personally. Shouldn't hurt the SNP.
Terrible soundbite for anyone on the left (tbh for anyone, left right or centre but especially left).
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Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Basically its still tied.0 -
I do love these random Scum stats. 99% of one legged nuns with a false arm will be voting Tory. 88% of Brummies who own dwarf hamsters thinks Red Ed looks weird.Then the next tweet. Labour ahead by ....Tykejohnno said:
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She said "Something material would have to change in terms of the circumstances or public opinion".HYUFD said:Brian Taylor on BBC Less likely than otherwise Sturgeon will make a manifesto commitment for another referendum unless a material change of circumstances eg an EU exit
With 48% of Scotland wanting the Second Referendum within five years, public opinion is already there. It will be in the 2016 Manifesto. They can safely scoop up 50% of the vote with that commitment in place.0 -
Didn't you post something earlier about a poll tonight ?compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
Tic Toc Tic Toc!
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Nah lots f the Tories still skiing and many more in the sun till next week.FrancisUrquhart said:
Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Basically its still tied. 0 -
Quick, change all your bets, YouGov have Labour ahead by one!compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
Tic Toc Tic Toc!
My God what have I done? I have the Cons to win a minority, Kellner says I am doomed!
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A relative of mine, who watches old Brillo far more than I do, reckons he's a closet Nat. Could this be true?Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
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It was a survation poll for the Jewish Chronicle wasn't it?compouter2 said:
I do love these random Scum stats. 99% of one legged nuns with a false arm will be voting Tory. 88% of Brummies who own dwarf hamsters thinks Red Ed looks weird.Then the next tweet. Labour ahead by ....Tykejohnno said:
Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics
Nearly 70 per cent of Britain’s Jewish community plan to vote Tory http://sunpl.us/60144rBq pic.twitter.com/eMeUpTSO5M0 -
The most recent Trident polling I can find is from 2013
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/07/15/trident-keep-scrap-or-downgrade/
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Quite right. Too hungover to fill out an online poll.felix said:
Nah lots f the Tories still skiing and many more in the sun till next week.FrancisUrquhart said:
Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Basically its still tied.0 -
Labour still ahead in the Yougov polls. The Swingback Tsunami is running out of Tic Tocs!Tykejohnno said:
Didn't you post something earlier about a poll tonight ?compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
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From a con to a nat,how did that happen ;-)Stark_Dawning said:
A relative of mine, who watches old Brillo far more than I do, reckons he's a closet Nat. Could this be true?Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Sturgeon ganged up on tonight but she held her ground
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Mike Smithson praises Willie Rennie' s performance and claims Nicola Sturgeon isn't up to it.
Presumably anticipates LIb Dem gains in Scotland as a consequence. Still at least he did not call her "Nicola Mugabe" as the former MP for the soon-to-be SNP seat of Gordon did :-)0 -
Actually if the trend (1% a day towards Con based on this and the lost poll) continues for the next 29 days... blue dawn anyone??compouter2 said:
Labour still ahead in the Yougov polls. The Swingback Tsunami is running out of Tic Tocs!Tykejohnno said:
Didn't you post something earlier about a poll tonight ?compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
Tic Toc Tic Toc!
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You've got a cheek! Where do you think that "London" debt came from? Overspending by Scottish chancellors Brown and Darling followed by bailing out Scottish banks Royal Bank of Scotland and Halifax Bank of Scotland.Dair said:
Here's what I would cut if I were John Swinney.SouthamObserver said:Now we know the SNP is in favour of Full Fiscal Autonomy from next year will they say where the cuts will be made?
Payment to Westminster for London debt - £5bn
Overpayment to Westminster for Defence - cut £1.5bn (40%)
Payment to Westminster for "UK Spending" - cut £2bn (85%)
Scottish surplus with OIl Minimum £1.5bn
Nice. Extra money for public spending or freedon to slash taxes.
As for UK spending, a lot of that goes on welfare payments. I must have missed Scotland's full employment rate!0 -
Sure is, and we all know what outcome that will lead to.FrancisUrquhart said:
Basically its still tied.Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
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Just to prove PB Hodges are the ones to follow and have their finger on the pulse.
Tom "Tory" Bradby, summing up todays events "You will have to chalk this up as a Labour win today".
PB Hodges always learn.....PB Hodges always right........0 -
YouGov = Tick Tock. Tick Tock.0
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Was that it,the way you posted I was expecting labour in front by 10% ;-)compouter2 said:
Labour still ahead in the Yougov polls. The Swingback Tsunami is running out of Tic Tocs!Tykejohnno said:
Didn't you post something earlier about a poll tonight ?compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
Tic Toc Tic Toc!
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Even after the disbanding of the Scottish regiments, that is a £3.5 Billion hole to fill...Garethofthevale said:
You've got a cheek! Where do you think that "London" debt came from? Overspending by Scottish chancellors Brown and Darling followed by bailing out Scottish banks Royal Bank of Scotland and Halifax Bank of Scotland.Dair said:
Here's what I would cut if I were John Swinney.SouthamObserver said:Now we know the SNP is in favour of Full Fiscal Autonomy from next year will they say where the cuts will be made?
Payment to Westminster for London debt - £5bn
Overpayment to Westminster for Defence - cut £1.5bn (40%)
Payment to Westminster for "UK Spending" - cut £2bn (85%)
Scottish surplus with OIl Minimum £1.5bn
Nice. Extra money for public spending or freedon to slash taxes.
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Nah,between 1 and 3% will see His Crapness gleamng from Number 10 the day after pollig day.Tykejohnno said:
Was that it,the way you posted I was expecting labour in front by 10% ;-)compouter2 said:
Labour still ahead in the Yougov polls. The Swingback Tsunami is running out of Tic Tocs!Tykejohnno said:
Didn't you post something earlier about a poll tonight ?compouter2 said:Labour 1% in front. Lord Crosby of Swingback should be defrocked.
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That's not the impression I get. Although I do remember him saying he was a lapsed republican on This Week (just checked -twitter.com/afneil/status/475025568321507328 ). Glad to see he has embraced the sensibleness that is monarchism...Stark_Dawning said:
A relative of mine, who watches old Brillo far more than I do, reckons he's a closet Nat. Could this be true?Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Sturgeon ganged up on tonight but she held her ground
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It's not that. This week, I've been telling YouGov that I'm voting Lib Dem = No Tory leadRobD said:
Quite right. Too hungover to fill out an online poll.felix said:
Nah lots f the Tories still skiing and many more in the sun till next week.FrancisUrquhart said:
Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Basically its still tied.
So if I get polled for tomorrow's poll, I'll say I'm voting Tory = Tory lead0 -
Are you the YouGov Panel?TheScreamingEagles said:
It's not that. This week, I've been telling YouGov that I'm voting Lib Dem = No Tory leadRobD said:
Quite right. Too hungover to fill out an online poll.felix said:
Nah lots f the Tories still skiing and many more in the sun till next week.FrancisUrquhart said:
Tory coming back from their holidays...Scott_P said:@SunPolitics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 34%, LAB 35%, LD 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 5%
Basically its still tied.
So if I get polled for tomorrow's poll, I'll say I'm voting Tory = Tory lead0 -
The CD or LP wasn't bad either.TheWatcher said:Ishmael_X said:
You omitted the punch line: "I'll have an egg".dr_spyn said:
"Tongue sandwiches? Bleah! Eat what? But it's been in somebody else's mouth!"John_M said:
Ox tongue is a delicacy. Black pudding is delicious, either with fat or oatmeal. I just love offal in general; it's cheaper, tastier and usually more nutritious than 'normal' meat.Plato said:I notice nobody has confessed to eating tongue...
welshowl said:
It's not like either really in my view at least. Not as "dense" in taste or certainly texture. But we may all taste things slightly differently I suppose. We'll never know!Plato said:Ah ha! Controversy!
I expected it to be like kidney or liver in terms of taste. Love liver, hate kidney [the smell makes me want to barf]welshowl said:@Ms Plato
The white bits are fat in black pudding, though there may be barley in some versions. It's a bit like a very dry sausage (fat aside) in terms of texture. Not quite certain how to describe the taste- slightly dry meaty but not very strong.
Quote from Sir Henry at Rawlinson End.
A fine film.
http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/articles/playscript.htm
"Once, ever the gentleman, Hubert had offered his seat to a lady in a public lavatory. There was considerable misunderstanding."0 -
Ouch - Michael Fallon in the Times
"Ed Miliband stabbed his own brother in the back to become Labour leader. Now he is willing to stab the UK in the back to become PM"0 -
Certainly you have to devise a policy that works. I am, though, a bit sceptical about this ultra mobility claim. There is a reason why so much money comes to the UK: its stability, lack of corruption, rule of law, democracy, judicial system etc. These are immensely valuable and not easily found in very many other places. We have a stronger card to play than some seem to think.welshowl said:
I too can see the merits of tightening the rules ( slowly ) but in a world that is more mobile and interconnected than ever both from a personal and capital perspective (especially for the mega rich) you've got to tread with caution ( even if holding one's nose so to speak).Cyclefree said:
We're supposed to be grateful, are we, that people living here paid some tax! FFS - let's grow a pair as a country. By all means, be open for business and investment but there is no earthly reason why we have to cow-tow to the demands of a few rich people.weejonnie said:
The non doms still pay UK taxes on UK revenue - £8.3 billion last tax year. Not bad for non-payers of taxes.Cyclefree said:
Tightening the rules on non-doms is not necessarily a left-wing policy. If you choose to live in a country you should jolly well contribute by paying taxes on the same basis as everyone else. I pay taxes at pretty high marginal rates - and both my parents were immigrants - and I am fed up with others inheriting a tax domicile that allows them to live in the same country with the same advantages but pay tax on a lesser and more favourable basis, as if paying tax were some optional hobby.SMukesh said:
The devil is in the detail, of course, which is where Labour tend to fall over their own shoelaces. But there is something very unappealing about very rich people complaining about being asked to comtribute and saying they'll leave if they don't get things their own way.
Blackmail is still blackmail, whether it's done by some union leader threatening strikes or some wealthy foreigner threatening to leave.
Our economy - even in London - has to amount to more than just servicing the needs of the spoilt rich.
Why not get some facts before ranting?
If I - a non-Labour supporter - can see the merits in tightening the rules so that people do not take advantage unfairly those who are reacting as if Labour had proposed the slaughter of the first born are, I would suggest, a tad out of touch with how this will play with people who feel that governments (from New Labour on) have been rather too concerned with what a few rich people think rather than the rather larger number of the rest of us.
Turning ourselves into Lichtenstein-on-Thames risks undermining some of the social cohesion needed to underpin the democracy, rule of law etc.
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? Don't pay to read the Scum, so wouldn't know. Just read it under the Labour lead confirmation. Notice there are quite a few of these random polls on there when I go on to view what the Labour lead is.isam said:
It was a survation poll for the Jewish Chronicle wasn't it?compouter2 said:
I do love these random Scum stats. 99% of one legged nuns with a false arm will be voting Tory. 88% of Brummies who own dwarf hamsters thinks Red Ed looks weird.Then the next tweet. Labour ahead by ....Tykejohnno said:
Sun Politics ✔ @SunPolitics
Nearly 70 per cent of Britain’s Jewish community plan to vote Tory http://sunpl.us/60144rBq pic.twitter.com/eMeUpTSO5M0
