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Sturgeon by a mile0
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Sturgeon.
But Cameron has an easy message to sell - steady as she goes....0 -
My wife kept asking 'why is Caroline Lucas not there' and she knows little about politics0
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As said on last thread, Cameron DID look like a PM. Miliband was just another one amongst the others and will suffer in Wales and Scotland as a result increasing chance of Tories being largest party.0
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Sturgeon. Class act.0
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Sturgeon gets 28% on the Yougov poll. Leading Farage by 8%0
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Who won and who will shift more votes will prove to have different answers. Farage proved himself the marmie politician, the man for whom the NHS is about healthcare tourists, housing is about immigrants, living standards about immigration depressing wages, etc.0
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Farage - Sturgeon - Miliband - in that order.
Plaid leader was the surprise - not very polished but had some good moments.0 -
Agree on Sturgeon's accent too. Gravitas.0
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Sturgeon "won".
But the biggest winners were Farage and Clegg.0 -
Woo hoo first0
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Lab 270 seats
SNP 55 seats
Baroness Sturgeon to Lords as PM0 -
You gov has tories on 37pct tonight0
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Suprised Sturgeon polled so high. An excellent result for Nige and a poor result for the metropolitan elite.0
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Interesting Clegg ended up so poorly rated, I thought he'd have a best of the rest after the minor parties0
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Who won: The SNP, but they were going to win almost all seats in scotland anyway.
In non-scotland land: Farage.0 -
Yes, the kiddies love it when teacher says its time to hand out the sweetiesTookieTBookie said:Sturgeon by a mile
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ICM
Milliband wins.0 -
Who won doesn't really matter, as very few people will have watched it. What will really matter is how the news outlets edit the sound bites that is what most people will see.0
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Eastwinger said:
Yes, the kiddies love it when teacher says its time to hand out the sweetiesTookieTBookie said:Sturgeon by a mile
Bennett was there to make Sturgeon look like the milk snatcher by comparison.
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Farage will be very happy with 20%,0
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Good YG for Conservatives and on the debate Cam is ahead of Miliband. Job done.0
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22.06, and I've received an email from Labour about the debate. The problem is that it contains nothing specific about the debate, and is obviously pre-written.
Pathetic.
(And I'll say the same for the other parties if they do it).0 -
BBC - SNP have biggest smiles on their faces.0
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I agree with Nicola!0
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If you take the SNP out of this (only 10% of the population are in Scotland) then the winner was Farage (50% more than UKIP's vote share), with a second place for Clegg (twice the LibDem's vote share).MP_SE said:Suprised Sturgeon polled so high. An excellent result for Nige and a poor result for the metropolitan elite.
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Sturgeon absolutely won. Of the PM candidates I think Dave will have won comfortably.0
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Debate pollsters all over the shop.0
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ICM
Milliband 25
Cameron 24
Farage 19
Sturgeon 17
Clegg 9
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Agreed.
Sturgeon did well and I wouldn't want to be a Labour MP.
I thought Clegg was polished but bland apart from thumping EdM once. He can't do the I'm A Nice Guy thing again - so Ms Greenies did it instead.
Nigel is just too one-trick for me = I found his endless face pulling and laughing inappropriate for a leaders' debate.bunnco said:As said on last thread, Cameron DID look like a PM. Miliband was just another one amongst the others and will suffer in Wales and Scotland as a result increasing chance of Tories being largest party.
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Pollsters lose the debate.0
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A pleasant suprise that Nicola won it as I thought people would have voted according to which party they would vote for at the GE.rcs1000 said:
If you take the SNP out of this (only 10% of the population are in Scotland) then the winner was Farage (50% more than UKIP's vote share), with a second place for Clegg (twice the LibDem's vote share).MP_SE said:Suprised Sturgeon polled so high. An excellent result for Nige and a poor result for the metropolitan elite.
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Nick Eardley @nickeardley 3m3 minutes ago
ComRes snap poll result:
21% Cam
21% Mili
9% Clegg
21% Farage
5% Bennett
20% Sturgeon
2% Wood0 -
So it's a Sturgasm this time.
That will make Cameron happy.
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ComRes three-way tie
Cam/Mil/Farage on 21%0 -
anybody said "broken sleazy Ed on the slide", yet?Scrapheap_as_was said:You gov has tories on 37pct tonight
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labour in Scotland should be worried,more now.MikeL said:BBC - SNP have biggest smiles on their faces.
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Did Nicola win? I put £50 at 7/1.
The milky bars are on me!!0 -
did Ed sum up well or badly?
His worm looks like it needs some V!agra.0 -
But if she has teed off potential Labour and LD voters in England, ad deters them from voting Labour or LD, then that helps too. You need to remember we're all in the union together.rcs1000 said:
If you take the SNP out of this (only 10% of the population are in Scotland) then the winner was Farage (50% more than UKIP's vote share), with a second place for Clegg (twice the LibDem's vote share).MP_SE said:Suprised Sturgeon polled so high. An excellent result for Nige and a poor result for the metropolitan elite.
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With a 4 day Easter break there is nothing here big enough to create follow through.0
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Gold standard.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ok in seriousness this highlights the risk of relying on polls too much, lots of variation0 -
He looked like a smug arse. His face was awful.RepublicanTory said:did Ed sum up well or badly?
His worm looks like it needs some V!agra.0 -
3 polls so far:
ICM Milliband by 1
ComRes: 3 way tie M/F/C.
Yougov: Sturgeon by 8.
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Will it? The impact will be much greater south of the border where there's no SNP candidates to vote and Labour are the next best thingMarkHopkins said:
So it's a Sturgasm this time.
That will make Cameron happy.0 -
BBC worm (MORI) - per MORI spokesman: Miliband didn't get as good a reaction as Cameron.
After the initial headline this BBC1 10 pm report is pretty solid for Cameron.0 -
Comm Res results completely different. Ladbrokes going with YouGov I believe0
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ITV are only reporting the ComRes poll, I thought YouGov had the official verdict.0
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Any boost for the SNP does most damage to Labour and LDs - I'd be surprised if it affected tory voters up there.0
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If this set of polls reflects the state of polling for the 7th of May, God help us all.0
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Poor old Clegg what a shame0
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BBC's worm looked good for Farage on the HIV stuff.0
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"Winners grin, Losers spin"
Osborne looks like the Cheshire Cat, Baldwin is apparently frenetic0 -
Cameron beating miliband on YouGov.Speedy said:3 polls so far:
ICM Milliband by 1
ComRes: 3 way tie M/F/C.
Yougov: Sturgeon by 8.
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Cameron won by splitting the left wing vote. Labour will have significant resources tied up in Scotland and Wales. Academic / do-gooder types can vote liberal or green. Working class can vote for Ukip. Only Farage would have attracted any of the Tory right.0
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so no clear winner then.JackW said:Debate pollsters all over the shop.
interestingly Dave's worm finished very high Ed's very low-any clear reason why??0 -
Cameron got what he wished:
- Miliband swamped among the other five, almost forgotten about at times.
- His main opponent's main oppenents in Scotland doing well....
- No one stand-out that might cause a surge anywhere.
I'm calling it for Cam.
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Sturgeon doing well obviously good news for Cameron.0
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Will be interesting to see if Farage's relatively sound performance leads to UKIP peeling off some of those votes they've been leaking. And if they can keep them0
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Last weeks winner was Paxman, this week, Crosby....
I bet Ed is looking for to the opposition debate, while Dave and Nick sit at home and play Candy Crush.0 -
Con Most seats 1.50.
Pre debate was 1.51.0 -
I thought that was cracking political theatre (whatever one's politics).
Cameron must be very pleased with the way it has all played out.0 -
Ah. Curious though, one wonders if Weegie and Doric rate the same as Edinbugger - and Inverness, Zetland ...Dair said:
Well established that people in the UK prefer Scottish accents over any other.Fenster said:Agree on Sturgeon's accent too. Gravitas.
Which one do you make hers? I've a tin ear for such things.
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I would like to apologise to any one I put off of betting on Sturgeon with my bold pronouncements that she had no chance.0
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Wasn't Ed meant to lose these debates. INSTEAD HE IS WINNING THEM!0
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Lots of former BNP votes for UKIP to hoover up.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Argh. Why wasn't Betfair settling on that market? I'd have been quids in!RodCrosby said:ComRes three-way tie
Cam/Mil/Farage on 21%0 -
Still we are all winners because we all backed the ties right?0
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So everyone can pick their preferred result. Unless you're a Lib Dem0
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@PickardJE: KILLER POLL
ComRes asked who's "most capable of leading the country" - judging by debate - Cameron 40%, Miliband 28%, Farage 10%, Clegg 4%0 -
There really is something for everyone in these polls...
... apart from Nick Clegg.0 -
Dougie Alexander looks like a man who knows he's a gonner...0
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Something fishy about the YouGov Sturgeon numbers.0
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BBC not reporting any debate poll yet.
Programme wrap-up still to come.0 -
poor old Scottp can never ever offer his own thoughts, No wonder his wife walked out.0
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And the cherry picking beginsScott_P said:@PickardJE: KILLER POLL
ComRes asked who's "most capable of leading the country" - judging by debate - Cameron 40%, Miliband 28%, Farage 10%, Clegg 4%
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Hmmm.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Tories would not be happy.0 -
I agree - seems odd.MonikerDiCanio said:Something fishy about the YouGov Sturgeon numbers.
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Mili wins.becoming very familiar face to the people of this country.0
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Sturgeon may appear to have won, but she appears to equate growth with incresed welfare spending, and higher taxes. She is a fiscal illiterate, and suffers from economic incontinence. Scotland's economy would not thrive with her in charge.
Miliband will lose seats in Wales and Scotland, but as for The Greens, they have picked a charmless charisma free dud.0 -
So a clear winner then? Miliband, Cameron, Sturgeon and Farage0
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She's from Ayrshire and sounds it but there's not much between West Central accents.Carnyx said:
Ah. Curious though, one wonders if Weegie and Doric rate the same as Edinbugger - and Inverness, Zetland ...Dair said:
Well established that people in the UK prefer Scottish accents over any other.Fenster said:Agree on Sturgeon's accent too. Gravitas.
Which one do you make hers? I've a tin ear for such things.0 -
The pollsters being over the place sort of vindicates Cameron's strategy for these debates: put in so many leaders, that no conclusive narrative can be formed any which way.
But I do find it astonishing how many of our political leaders seem to struggle with basic debating skills. Sturgeon is one of the few who bothered to learn her trade.
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