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  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    Dair said:

    Danny565 said:

    Artist said:

    Apart from Sturgeon winning, the finishing orders were pretty predictable.

    Sturgeon winning was predictable since there's such a huge untapped anti-austerity market out there. If only Ed had had the sense to seize it.
    Miliband can't go anti-austerity because he and his party are locked into the Quid Pro Quo of directorships when MPs retire and placement into positions with well paid city jobs. He's tied into the UK National Ponzi Scheme as hard as Cameron. He does what the moneymen tell him regardless of it's impact on voters.
    Dear Sir Fred,

    Dribble,slurp,creep,fawn,toady.

    Yours Alex

  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Possibly the wrong time to report a technical issue but I'm only seeing grey lines here, nothing else. Can see others responding but the quotes again are just grey lines, nothing there.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    So in conculsion:

    The SNP will keep it's 45% in scotland.

    Miliband did better than expected and enough for a tie, that's a victory of sorts.

    Cameron worse than expected but still enough for a tie, that's a defeat of sorts.

    Farage worse than expected but still enough for a tie, that's a victory of sorts.

    But what matters is the impact on the voting intention and we won't know till next week again.

    Goodnight.

  • glwglw Posts: 9,956
    Ishmael_X said:

    Precisely and exactly right. The End.

    Yep, and next Ed gets a kicking as the establishment figure.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So 1.5 percent points of ukip in one direction and 4 percent points of conservatives in the other direction? That would be fairly devastating.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Scott_P said:

    @suttonnick: Friday's Telegraph front page:
    Miliband flops as outsiders shine
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #leadersdebate http://t.co/m6TWin8n8B

    There were a lot of people in that debate competing for the tax-and-spend voters. That can't be good for Labour.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Lab Maj testing new highs on betfair - last trade 34.0. SNP effect, probably...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,947
    Debate masking tonight's big news - the Tories are motoring as the campaigning kicks in....
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    edited April 2015

    Possibly the wrong time to report a technical issue but I'm only seeing grey lines here, nothing else. Can see others responding but the quotes again are just grey lines, nothing there.

    Refresh the page seems to sort it out for me.

    EDIT: but not always. Seems to come and go.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Plus, Ed still got the joys of having to do another debate, where everybody will throw rocks at him....
    On the other hand if he emerges as St Sebastian shot full of arrows he might get the sympathy (or posthumous) vote
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Lab Maj testing new highs on betfair - last trade 34.0. SNP effect, probably...

    Tory price should come in next day or so.,
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    Speedy said:
    Speedy said:
    It looks to me (on any poll) that Miliband and Cameron scored level, so that shouldn't affect the overall narrative.

    The risk for the Conservatives, now, is that UKIP upticks a few points of the back of this debate at their expense. And stays there.
    It would be at Labour's expense, not the Tories

    Speedy said:
    Speedy said:
    It looks to me (on any poll) that Miliband and Cameron scored level, so that shouldn't affect the overall narrative.

    The risk for the Conservatives, now, is that UKIP upticks a few points of the back of this debate at their expense. And stays there.
    It would be at Labour's expense, not the Tories
    Why do you say that?
    I've said for weeks that the soft Kipper vote, the 19th hole Colonel Blimps if you like, are slowly returning to the Tories, but the WWC have abandoned Labour and they are never going back.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Alistair said:

    So 1.5 percent points of ukip in one direction and 4 percent points of conservatives in the other direction? That would be fairly devastating.
    Depends on what 'more likely' means. Could be 1% to 2%.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @DPJHodges: Tories break "impossible to break" 36% ceiling.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Possibly the wrong time to report a technical issue but I'm only seeing grey lines here, nothing else. Can see others responding but the quotes again are just grey lines, nothing there.

    Refresh the page seems to sort it out for me.
    Thank you. I'd tried refreshing and it hadn't but a full refresh (Ctrl+F5) has worked. Thank you.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Pulpstar said:

    SMukesh said:

    Where did YouGov conduct their poll?in Dundee?

    I said it here. And Richard Nabavi also pointed it out

    PB TORIES

    ALWAYS RIGHT
    We always learn (to be right)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,079
    A quick scan of my facebook news feed, and there are a total of 5 comments about the debates: 4 disparaging Ed Miliband, and one praising the Greens. Interestingly, the latter comment comes from someone whom I know voted blue last time - but she's trained as a teacher since. What do they do to them in teacher training college? Anyway, interestingly, Ed Miliband appears to have liberated people to be critical of the left: In the social circles I move in (middle class Manchester, late 30s/early 40s now) for the last 20 years or so it only seems to have been acceptable to make political comments if you were being critical of the right. That seems to be gradually changing.
    Of course, the main conclusion from my snapshot should be that most people totally ignored the debates.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Next debate: Mili 20,Cameron 0,
    Clegg 0
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Gove talking up Sturgeon on QT.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    JWisemann said:

    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
    Cameron doesn't need a game changer at 37%.
  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    Ishmael_X said:

    Precisely and exactly right. The End.

    Edit: and the debate is only the second most important politics story of the day.

    37%.

    The End.
    A 2% lead, exactly the same as labour yesterday. Eicipm, as I believe the kids say.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    SMukesh said:

    Next debate: Mili 20,Cameron 0,
    Clegg 0


    Number of (metaphorical) pies to face?

  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Gove - WOT A TOOL
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Scott_P said:

    @DPJHodges: Tories break "impossible to break" 36% ceiling.

    Blue Dawn. :D
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Really with all these polls we need to see the pre-debate VI before getting too carried away.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,160
    Crofty part of the Sturge.

    Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 57 mins57 minutes ago
    I don't agree with @NicolaSturgeon on many issues but have respect for her passion. She did the @theSNP proud in the debate tonight.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Tasmina says SNP got 1200 members during the debate.

    So thats 105k.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711

    Speedy said:
    Speedy said:
    It looks to me (on any poll) that Miliband and Cameron scored level, so that shouldn't affect the overall narrative.

    The risk for the Conservatives, now, is that UKIP upticks a few points of the back of this debate at their expense. And stays there.
    It would be at Labour's expense, not the Tories

    Speedy said:
    Speedy said:
    It looks to me (on any poll) that Miliband and Cameron scored level, so that shouldn't affect the overall narrative.

    The risk for the Conservatives, now, is that UKIP upticks a few points of the back of this debate at their expense. And stays there.
    It would be at Labour's expense, not the Tories
    Why do you say that?
    I've said for weeks that the soft Kipper vote, the 19th hole Colonel Blimps if you like, are slowly returning to the Tories, but the WWC have abandoned Labour and they are never going back.
    I'm not sure there's much evidence to say that Labour would suffer the penalty, but the Tories gain the benefit.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Burnham destroying the bacon sandwich eating, geek Ed Miliband through a voice that's cracking.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Crofty part of the Sturge.

    Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 57 mins57 minutes ago
    I don't agree with @NicolaSturgeon on many issues but have respect for her passion. She did the @theSNP proud in the debate tonight.

    Tory peer talks up SNP. OMG

  • IOS said:

    Scott

    When was the last time the Tories actually won 37% of the vote.

    23 years ago!


    Not going to happen this time. When are your thoughts coming by the way? You won't get her back from just copying and pasteing.

    No its more likely to be 40% after the next opposition debate with attacks on Ed from the left and Nigel from the right. Seems as if Lynton Crosby has checkmated labour
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @britainelects: #LeadersDebate snap poll (Survation):
    Cameron - 25%
    Miliband - 25%
    Farage - 24%
    Sturgeon - 15%
    Clegg - 6%
    Bennett - 3%
    Wood - 2%
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I don't think Mr Burnham has ever sounded so implausible. EdM didn't do badly but Andy over egged his compliments beyond flattery
    chestnut said:

    Burnham destroying the bacon sandwich eating, geek Ed Miliband through a voice that's cracking.

  • JWisemannJWisemann Posts: 1,082
    MaxPB said:

    JWisemann said:

    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
    Cameron doesn't need a game changer at 37%.
    He does if labour get 35%...
  • currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    This election is beginning to feel like 92. I am beginning to come to the view that the Tories will poll close to 40%. It has been an excellent start to the campaign and Cameron will be chuffed with how tonight went. He was the only one presenting a realistic approach to the deficit with everyone else arguing for more borrowing and spending. Not everyone in the uk lives in a fantasy money tree land. During the campaign there will be excellent stats on unemployment and growth. I can only see the Tories adding votes.
  • Eh_ehm_a_ehEh_ehm_a_eh Posts: 552
    SMukesh said:

    Where did YouGov conduct their poll?in Dundee?

    Nah, Nicola would have been on 128% otherwise.

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064

    Really with all these polls we need to see the pre-debate VI before getting too carried away.

    Yup as with last time ICM got the VI weightings all wrong, if they did the same this time then reweighting them properly to the last ICM VI gives it to Dave.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    So how many polls show Cameron beating Miliband now?
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Danny565 said:

    Artist said:

    Apart from Sturgeon winning, the finishing orders were pretty predictable.

    Sturgeon winning was predictable since there's such a huge untapped anti-austerity market out there. If only Ed had had the sense to seize it.
    Agreed. Personally I think she's barking ( politically - I'm sure she's perfectly nice individually) but it would be uncharitable not to recognise she came over well for her point of view. As oddly did Clegg IMHO. SLAB are stuffed mind. Is there a market in all Scottish Tory and Labour MP's and a panda fitting in a taxi together?

    Overall a draw though.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Survation Mil/Cam 25, Farage 24
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,540
    JWisemann said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Precisely and exactly right. The End.

    Edit: and the debate is only the second most important politics story of the day.

    37%.

    The End.
    A 2% lead, exactly the same as labour yesterday. Eicipm, as I believe the kids say.

    Not, if the Tories win 37%.

  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    JWisemann said:

    MaxPB said:

    JWisemann said:

    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
    Cameron doesn't need a game changer at 37%.
    He does if labour get 35%...
    Not necessarily if the SNP and UKIP get what they're polling. SNP to kill Labour in Scotland and UKIP to make the Tory vote far more efficient could eliminate much of the "bias" in the system (except of course biased constituency sizes).

    37% is not just better than 36% but if its at a more efficient rate then that could be very good news for the Tories.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @carrieapples: #LeadersDebate snap poll averages: Cameron - 22.0% Miliband - 21.5% Farage - 21.0% Sturgeon - 20.0% Clegg - 8.5% Bennett - 4.0% Wood - 2.5%
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    Debate masking tonight's big news - the Tories are motoring as the campaigning kicks in....

    The phoney war... dropping leaflets on Broxtowe... is over.
    Can the tories move Boris their human cannonball to the strategic high ground of 37 quickly enough to pepper the assembled enemy reserves gathered on 38. Is there a gap in the wire and minefields of 39 through which the armour can punch through to the unspoilt green fields of 40!
    Or will it all turn out like the end of 'Brazil'?
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Hitch is good on QT
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: Survation poll: solidifying picture: http://t.co/MTfssXQK4P
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766

    Really with all these polls we need to see the pre-debate VI before getting too carried away.

    Agree. Lot of froth right now. Most significant poll is tories @ 37% with YG.

    No idea how debates will affect things post-Easter but then I switched off for most of it.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    For those in Wales "wishing they could vote SNP" Nicola is playing hard to tell them how they can vote SNP.

    https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/583745747499253761
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    JWisemann said:

    MaxPB said:

    JWisemann said:

    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
    Cameron doesn't need a game changer at 37%.
    He does if labour get 35%...
    Not really. FPTP works better for the Tories the higher up the thirties they get.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    JWisemann said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Precisely and exactly right. The End.

    Edit: and the debate is only the second most important politics story of the day.

    37%.

    The End.
    A 2% lead, exactly the same as labour yesterday. Eicipm, as I believe the kids say.

    Con led by 2 with YouGov yesterday as well.

    Two days in a row YouGov has Con +2.

    Yesterday 36/34. Today 37/35.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    edited April 2015
    £350! Not bad. All I need now is Edinburgh South And the Tories to get between 300-325 seats and I'll be able to afford some Osborne and Little wallpaper
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    54% of people diagnosed with HIV are foreign born.

    Metropolitan liberals fall over themselves with faux outrage.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/401662/2014_PHE_HIV_annual_report_draft_Final_07-01-2015.pdf
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Sun and Telegraph both really batting as hard as they possibly can for Cameron.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    SMukesh said:

    Next debate: Mili 20,Cameron 0,
    Clegg 0

    Umm, next debate has Miliband trying to compete with Farage, Bennett, Sturgeon and Sturgeon's welsh mascot.

    He will be destroyed.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    ICM forced choice between Cam/Mili-50/50

    This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    Right wingers hysterics is ridiculous indicating real anxiety.

  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Every point higher for Con helps them even if the lead is unchanged - because it means more gains from LDs (and fewer losses to UKIP).
  • glwglw Posts: 9,956
    currystar said:

    It has been an excellent start to the campaign and Cameron will be chuffed with how tonight went. He was the only one presenting a realistic approach to the deficit with everyone else arguing for more borrowing and spending.

    I don't think that Cameron did present a realistic approach, or even any approach, it was quite vague what he said. The big difference comparing Cameron to the other leaders is that Cameron was the only person really acknowledging the financial problems that the country still faces.
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Telegraph, the Sun and Mail are all batting for the Tories.


    Will be a shock to the system when they are out of power.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    Roger said:

    £350! Not bad. All I need now is Edinburgh South And the Tories to get between 300-325 seats and I'll be able to afford some Osborne and Little wallpaper

    Well done Rog!
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Gove skewering Burnham and Alexander.

    Yasmin talking rubbish as usual.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    The claims on QT that Gove is talking up the SNP sounds really desperate from Danny and Andy. Whether it's true or not is neither here nor there. They failed to deal with them and are now trying to blame the Tories for it.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Was Cammo's "Vote for the same Team" a hint to Tories in LD/Lab marginals?
  • JGCJGC Posts: 64
    so 3 polls say a tie or Ed slightly ahead, 1 says something else seems rather odd to be paying out on that basis.......
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Poor will vote Cons out. I am laying cons in size
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    SMukesh said:

    ICM forced choice between Cam/Mili-50/50

    This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    Right wingers hysterics is ridiculous indicating real anxiety.

    "Right wingers hysterics"?

    Titter
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Roger said:

    £350! Not bad. All I need now is Edinburgh South And the Tories to get between 300-325 seats and I'll be able to afford some Osborne and Little wallpaper

    Are you giving the Stompie Moeketsi Room a makeover?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Plato said:

    The claims on QT that Gove is talking up the SNP sounds really desperate from Danny and Andy. Whether it's true or not is neither here nor there. They failed to deal with them and are now trying to blame the Tories for it.

    They know that the Tories have them where they want them. I can see the panic.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @montie: Verdict of @TheTimes: We learnt tonight how @NicolaSturgeon would drag a minority Miliband government to the left http://t.co/1mGAhBmARD
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135
    Part-ELBOW for the week so far inc. Panelbase VI poll (but not YG - tables tomorrow!) puts Tories 0.6% ahead
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    IOS said:

    Telegraph, the Sun and Mail are all batting for the Tories.


    Will be a shock to the system when they are out of power.

    The headlines are rather ridiculous when Mili is in near the top in 3 out of the 4 polls.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    JWisemann said:

    MaxPB said:

    JWisemann said:

    Except it's cameron that needs the game changer. If the polls stay neck a neck there's not a chance he stays.
    Cameron doesn't need a game changer at 37%.
    He does if labour get 35%...
    Not necessarily if the SNP and UKIP get what they're polling. SNP to kill Labour in Scotland and UKIP to make the Tory vote far more efficient could eliminate much of the "bias" in the system (except of course biased constituency sizes).

    37% is not just better than 36% but if its at a more efficient rate then that could be very good news for the Tories.
    And what happens if (if) Labour are crushed into the mud by the tracked juggernaut of 33? Is Ed a warhorse or a carthorse
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Ishmael_X said:

    Roger said:

    £350! Not bad. All I need now is Edinburgh South And the Tories to get between 300-325 seats and I'll be able to afford some Osborne and Little wallpaper

    Are you giving the Stompie Moeketsi Room a makeover?
    Wow there's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    SMukesh said:

    ICM forced choice between Cam/Mili-50/50

    This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    Right wingers hysterics is ridiculous indicating real anxiety.

    Not: This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    But: This is bad for Cam. Normally way ahead.

    A dead giveaway.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    RobD said:

    SMukesh said:

    ICM forced choice between Cam/Mili-50/50

    This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    Right wingers hysterics is ridiculous indicating real anxiety.

    "Right wingers hysterics"?

    Titter
    I referred to the headlines which are way over the top and written day before yesterday.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @SamCoatesTimes: Exc final YouGov / Times poll result of the night: Amongst those who are not yet "certain" to vote.score /10
    Cameron 6.1
    Miliband 5.9
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    That's a four way MoE tie, surely? Is it right to say no one won with a convincing lead?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    BBC highlights are very heavy on Sturgeon. Not surprising as its BBC National and trying to be impartial instea of Labour run BBC Scotland.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    SMukesh said:

    ICM forced choice between Cam/Mili-50/50

    This is bad for Cam.Normally way ahead.

    Right wingers hysterics is ridiculous indicating real anxiety.

    Not good news for Cameron, if true.
  • EDW2000EDW2000 Posts: 29
    Hitch smash Gove
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    welshowl said:

    Danny565 said:

    Artist said:

    Apart from Sturgeon winning, the finishing orders were pretty predictable.

    Sturgeon winning was predictable since there's such a huge untapped anti-austerity market out there. If only Ed had had the sense to seize it.
    Agreed. Personally I think she's barking ( politically - I'm sure she's perfectly nice individually) but it would be uncharitable not to recognise she came over well for her point of view. As oddly did Clegg IMHO. SLAB are stuffed mind. Is there a market in all Scottish Tory and Labour MP's and a panda fitting in a taxi together?

    Overall a draw though.
    What was Sturgeon's point of view? Was it more than 'look at me I can come over well'? Is that what voting is about
  • Cookie said:

    Interestingly, the latter comment comes from someone whom I know voted blue last time - but she's trained as a teacher since. What do they do to them in teacher training college?

    I started (but did not finish) a PGCE course at Oxford in 1997. On the first day everyone on the course was taken into a lecture theatre and 'Thak God the Tories lost the election' was pretty much the first thing the course coordinator said to us.

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    edited April 2015
    Who do you think was **MOST** impressive during the section of the debate on THE ECONOMY?

    David Cameron 33
    Ed Miliband 22

    The economy is the number one issue. Dave wins pretty well on that with YouGov.

    Who do you think was **MOST** impressive during the section of the debate on HEALTH?

    Ed Miliband 25
    David Cameron 20

    And not too far behind on the NHS.

    Wins on best PM with ICM 40-28.

    Sturgeon rips lumps out of SLAB.

    No more direct Dave/Ed debates. Ed heading into a room with the anti-establishment parties.

    The Tories will be happy tonight.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Dair said:

    BBC highlights are very heavy on Sturgeon. Not surprising as its BBC National and trying to be impartial instea of Labour run BBC Scotland.

    So the SNP were only proposing to take control of BBC Scotland's political output?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @YouGov: Who was most impressive on each question from the leaders' debate? http://t.co/0txnBvMzg7 http://t.co/383LFNplkD
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,711
    edited April 2015
    I think the marginal loser from tonight is Miliband. Drawing or coming top in a couple of polls, whilst being behind in the rest, just isn't good enough. It was his one chance to change perceptions on the UK national stage, but he just didn't shine enough. And he can finally kiss goodbye to Scotland now.

    Cameron was lucky to hold his own against Farage. The best he could have hoped for. That says a lot about Cameron's political skills, but he's lucky that he looks and sounds the part on TV whilst looking relatively even-headed. It could have been so much worse for him.

    However, the snapshot judgements tonight won't be as important as how the polls move over the next week, after Easter. The public can have a knack of forming their own narrative. We'll see..

    Right, enough of this nonsense. A silly event that I wasted good money betting on. Goodnight.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,387
    Looks like the results are a mixed bag in terms of who "won" and who "lost" which is exactly what Cameron was hoping for...

    No "gasm" this time presumably?
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited April 2015
    YouGov voting poll - CON 37%, LAB 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%.


    When was the last time the Tories scored 37% with YG? - seems an awfully long time ago.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    So Cameron leads the poll average, massively ahead on 'best Prime Minister', massively ahead on the economy, while Ed lost even more votes to the SNP

    I look forward to tomorrow's "Dave can't Win" thread...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    edited April 2015

    YouGov voting poll - CON 37%, LAB 35%, LD 7%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%.


    When was the last time the Tories scored 37% with YG? - seems an awfully long time age.

    End of 2013, IIRC.

    Yep, 14th October 2013.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    BBC highlights are very heavy on Sturgeon. Not surprising as its BBC National and trying to be impartial instea of Labour run BBC Scotland.

    So the SNP were only proposing to take control of BBC Scotland's political output?
    No they want BBC Scotland devolved, so they can strip out the Labour Party placepeople and make it an impartial broadcaster.
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