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There must be a risk that some of her potential constituents feel that she has brought shame on herself and her community by speaking out as she has done. Sadly.ThomasNashe said:
That is some story. Stark contrast to the usual SPAD - I really hope she gets in. In fact, it'd be quite depressing if she didn't. Over to you, Bradford ...antifrank said:Labour may have stumbled into finding a powerful opponent for George Galloway. Courtesy of Patrick Wintour on twitter, this has to be read:
http://urban-echo.co.uk/exclusive-bradford-west-labour-candidate-naz-shah-reveals-all/
I hope that she makes it to Parliament, because she could add so much to debates that for many in Parliament are purely theoretical.0 -
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
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I don't think that really works for someone who was a government minister at all relevant times.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've been speaking to a Labour chap this morning.antifrank said:What's particularly odd about Sally Keeble's decision to refuse money from Tony Blair is that she happily served as a minister in his government until 2003, when she was reshuffled out.
The people who refused the Blair money are going to look so principled and honourable were the Chilcot report to leak during the election campaign.0 -
@TheWatcher
I said "may" not will?
I know you think you can see the future like some "Kwisatz Haderach", but lay of the "spice" a little?0 -
England at 1.52 worth a tenner here.0
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Predictable!0
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Betting Post
F1: Alonso to miss Australian Grand Prix:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2015/3/16854.html
Old news, but, um, Ladbrokes has him at 5 Not To Be Classified.
He isn't racing, so would that be rendered null and void, or is it a 100% guaranteed 4/1 shot?0 -
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
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Unless they were at the MOD or Foreign Office they might be able to get away with it.antifrank said:
I don't think that really works for someone who was a government minister at all relevant times.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've been speaking to a Labour chap this morning.antifrank said:What's particularly odd about Sally Keeble's decision to refuse money from Tony Blair is that she happily served as a minister in his government until 2003, when she was reshuffled out.
The people who refused the Blair money are going to look so principled and honourable were the Chilcot report to leak during the election campaign.0 -
Fairy tale ending from Anderson?TGOHF said:
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
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England need 16 from eleven balls with number eleven James Anderson at the wicket.0
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Yes, that's why the result will be a judgement on the voters of Bradford West as much as anything else.Cyclefree said:
There must be a risk that some of her potential constituents feel that she has brought shame on herself and her community by speaking out as she has done. Sadly.ThomasNashe said:
That is some story. Stark contrast to the usual SPAD - I really hope she gets in. In fact, it'd be quite depressing if she didn't. Over to you, Bradford ...antifrank said:Labour may have stumbled into finding a powerful opponent for George Galloway. Courtesy of Patrick Wintour on twitter, this has to be read:
http://urban-echo.co.uk/exclusive-bradford-west-labour-candidate-naz-shah-reveals-all/
I hope that she makes it to Parliament, because she could add so much to debates that for many in Parliament are purely theoretical.0 -
First baller.isam said:
Fairy tale ending from Anderson?TGOHF said:
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
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Moores out.TGOHF said:
First baller.isam said:
Fairy tale ending from Anderson?TGOHF said:
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
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F1: Alonso's name already removed from the Not To Be Classified list (and everywhere else). I hope my bet stands and doesn't get cancelled/rendered null and void.
Edited extra bit: so, a whole 4 minutes [or less...] of that being up.
If it comes off, not sure whether to include it in the 'official' stats, given the tiny time window.0 -
England all out.David_Evershed said:England need 16 from eleven balls with number eleven James Anderson at the wicket.
England out of the cricket World Cup along with Afghanistan.0 -
England v Afghanistan in Sydney. Probably a full house as all of Australia come to sledge England.....0
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Disgraceful performance by England. Moores has to go. KP may not have been right about much but he was right about Moores. Morgan has to go too. At the moment you seriously have to question whether he is worth his place in the side.
And we desperately need some bowlers who know how to take a wicket.0 -
Regardless of whether Chilcot leaks, opposing candidates only have to bring up the issue of Blair's convoluted company structures and curious tax arrangements to gain some negative PR for the Labour PPC.TheScreamingEagles said:
Unless they were at the MOD or Foreign Office they might be able to get away with it.antifrank said:
I don't think that really works for someone who was a government minister at all relevant times.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've been speaking to a Labour chap this morning.antifrank said:What's particularly odd about Sally Keeble's decision to refuse money from Tony Blair is that she happily served as a minister in his government until 2003, when she was reshuffled out.
The people who refused the Blair money are going to look so principled and honourable were the Chilcot report to leak during the election campaign.0 -
Iain Martin @iainmartin1
Ed Miliband calls for judge-led inquiry into England defeat by Bangladesh in cricket world cup.0 -
You need one of these really
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2nd actually but nows not the time for correcting errorsTGOHF said:
First baller.isam said:
Fairy tale ending from Anderson?TGOHF said:
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
Oh well, it was a shambles from way before the tournament started and we got what we deserved
Too much messing about w the team at a late stage but reality was we are not good enough even at our best
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http://sportsbeta.ladbrokes.com/Formula-1/2015-Australian-Grand-Prix/Motor-Racing-N-1z1416eZ1z0rzsaZ1z14167/Morris_Dancer said:Betting Post
F1: Alonso to miss Australian Grand Prix:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2015/3/16854.html
Old news, but, um, Ladbrokes has him at 5 Not To Be Classified.
He isn't racing, so would that be rendered null and void, or is it a 100% guaranteed 4/1 shot?
Alonso not in these markets - if you got on him not to be classified then well done, should be a winner. Worst that can happen is it is voided.0 -
As I said earlier this might be the best thing in the medium term - a total clean out is required.isam said:
2nd actually but nows not the time for correcting errorsTGOHF said:
First baller.isam said:
Fairy tale ending from Anderson?TGOHF said:
Stu plonker ?ThomasNashe said:
Winning runs to come from Broad. 'Stu beauty!' will be the headline.Pulpstar said:
10 or 11 an over isn't really all that much to get near the end of a match against an average bowling attack.ThomasNashe said:Jesus Christ! Bangladesh are going to lose this!
Oh well, it was a shambles from way before the tournament started and we got what we deserved
Too much messing about w the team at a late stage but reality was we are not good enough even at our best
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Mr. Pulpstar, it was removed within minutes of me seeing it. Got a bet on, though.
Reminds me a little of my favourite bet, when Hamilton was disqualified in Spain 2012 (or thereabouts) and I backed Maldonado and Alonso to lead lap 1 at about 5-6 each.
That's my favourite sort of bet. 95% chance of victory, odds of 4/1 or more
Edited extra bit: well, I was happier with the bet on Button to win in Canada 2011, but still.0 -
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Surely, promises legislation putting England's duty to win World Cup on a statutory footing?Tissue_Price said:Iain Martin @iainmartin1
Ed Miliband calls for judge-led inquiry into England defeat by Bangladesh in cricket world cup.0 -
@Ishmael_X
David Cameron could advise them to avoid televised contests?0 -
Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?
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Ed Miliband calls for the England cricket team to be rebranded as "Scottish" as part of his pre-election deal with the SNP.0
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Ireland and South Africa would complain? It could cause an international incident0 -
I concur. Except if ICM are right it is a Tory Minority.antifrank said:Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?0 -
Paralysed by fear of making a mistake. Rugby, football and cricket. It's the great stifler of creativity. Something is amiss in our sporting culture.0
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https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/574698480557514752/photo/1
A good attack poster by the Tories but I'm struggling to understand why with apparently so much to boast about they've gone on the defensive. It doesn't make sense.
Imagine you were launching the new VW tipped to be Car of the Year. Even a first year advertising student would know that a poster attacking the latest Skoda would be a complete waste of money and probably counter productive.
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Ed Testicles in their 2010 Manifesto "A future bankrupt for all":
we will deliver up to £20 billion of efficiencies in the frontline NHS,
Ed Testicles just now:
https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/574885621304553472
See principles are strong in all parties today.0 -
Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-0 -
I think you'd do better to lay Cameron as PM after the election if that's what you think.antifrank said:Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?0 -
Mr. Roger, a poor comparison, because buying a car is wholly optional. We *will* have a government, the only decision is its composition.
Mr. Observer, just as an aside, large presses are also reluctant to take risks and tend to play it safe. Similar happens with videogames (hence so many FPS games). XCOM: Enemy Unknown was originally going to be an FPS until there was a fan outcry, and the much altered version that came to market sold bucketloads.0 -
Spitting Image (the two Davids) should be claiming copyright violation.Roger said:https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/574698480557514752/photo/1
A good attack poster by the Tories but I'm struggling to understand why with apparently so much to boast about they've gone on the defensive.
It doesn't make sense.
Imagine you were launching the new VW tipped to be Car of the Year. Even a first year advertising student would know that a poster attacking the latest Skoda would be a complete waste of money and probably counter productive.0 -
Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.0 -
Scared Dave resorts to scaring the voters!0
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The cost-benefit is totally different. One was a fixed lost for small chance of benefit, the other has a fixed loss for almost guaranteed benefit.Roger said:Imagine you were launching the new VW tipped to be Car of the Year. Even a first year advertising student would know that a poster attacking the latest Skoda would be a complete waste of money and probably counter productive.
If you don't buy a Skoda you could by any other sort of car or no car, none of which are to the advantage of VW (leaving aside that VW owns Skoda, so maybe not the ideal example)
If you don't buy Ed, buying any of the other parties is good for the Conservatives, buying Conservative would be ideal, but buying Green would be valuable as well. Even sitting at home rather than voting Ed is an improvement from the Conservative perspective.
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Makes me wonder why Dave won't debate Ed. Surely the LOTO needs to be directly confronted by the PM on this issue.Roger said:https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/574698480557514752/photo/1
A good attack poster by the Tories but I'm struggling to understand why with apparently so much to boast about they've gone on the defensive. It doesn't make sense.
Imagine you were launching the new VW tipped to be Car of the Year. Even a first year advertising student would know that a poster attacking the latest Skoda would be a complete waste of money and probably counter productive.
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Ed Testicles just now:Indigo said:Ed Testicles in their 2010 Manifesto "A future bankrupt for all":
we will deliver up to £20 billion of efficiencies in the frontline NHS,
https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/574885621304553472
See principles are strong in all parties today.
Norman Smith parroting back to Wigan Pier again.0 -
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
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Guardian doing it's best to get the "No" onside of the SNPantifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-
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We know its all bullshit. If in a two weeks time the Tories have been a couple of points or so behind on the majority of polls, they will suddenly think the debates are a good idea, mean while Labour will go cool on the idea, not wanting to blow a good thing by risking Ed tripping over the lectern.SouthamObserver said:
Makes me wonder why Dave won't debate Ed. Surely the LOTO needs to be directly confronted by the PM on this issue.
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@SouthamObserver
English shirt lifters?0 -
Betfair prices on next government fits this price exactly, can't really see an edgeTheScreamingEagles said:
I concur. Except if ICM are right it is a Tory Minority.antifrank said:Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?0 -
Has Steve Bell ever produced anything vaguely resembling a funny cartoon?antifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-0 -
Is Irish a race ?SouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.0 -
Yep I agreeTissue_Price said:
I think you'd do better to lay Cameron as PM after the election if that's what you think.antifrank said:Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?0 -
I'm from Norfolk. I don't recall the Scots being particularly quick to get offended on my behalf when all the in-breeding jokes are made, so I'll leave them to join the outrage bus without my assistance on this occasion.Pulpstar said:
Guardian doing it's best to get the "No" onside of the SNPantifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
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That was from an Irish friend.SouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
I also have a Bangladeshi friend who is giving me the full Bjørge Lillelien treatment.
It is an awful day to be an English cricket fan of Pakistani heritage.
I fully expect Lord Ashcroft to have Labour 15 points ahead, it is that kind of day0 -
If that's defensive I'd hate to see offensive.Roger said:https://twitter.com/jameschappers/status/574698480557514752/photo/1
A good attack poster by the Tories but I'm struggling to understand why with apparently so much to boast about they've gone on the defensive.
It doesn't make sense.
Imagine you were launching the new VW tipped to be Car of the Year. Even a first year advertising student would know that a poster attacking the latest Skoda would be a complete waste of money and probably counter productive.
It is very adroit. The problem was how to run a personal "ed is crap" attack, without it looking like a personal attack. This is the answer. The strategy of Cameron's odd-looking-at-the-time call to ed to rule out an SNP coalition, then giving it 48 hours, then this, worked a treat. And the poster is brilliant; as I said at insomnia o'clock this morning, compare this earlier effort: http://order-order.com/2015/01/23/new-tory-poster-targets-miliband-and-salmond/
A real you don't wanna do it like that, you wanna do it like this situation - just everything is wrong with the earlier poster. Notice how they've worked out how if you have no text in the poster, you kill stone dead counterattacks based on altering the text to something funny and putting the result on twitter.0 -
Swapping Essex (English) Cook for Irish Morgan was SUCH a good idea!0
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His progressive politics does have a blind spot when it comes to a border crossing - but not always: I fondly recall his Scottish Guinea Pigs in the times of the cholera, or rather the poll tax, many moons ago.Richard_Nabavi said:
Has Steve Bell ever produced anything vaguely resembling a funny cartoon?antifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-
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@antifrank
Quite right, stick six fingers up at the swine.0 -
Depends if the person using them is in with the right clique, just like the real worldSouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
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That's a debate and a half. On balance, probably not. So, I'll rephrase: which derogatory epithets about nationalities are permissible and which are not?Indigo said:
Is Irish a race ?SouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
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On the Conservative Salmond/Miliband poster, I think they have it slightly wrong. It's Ms Sturgeon, not Alex Salmond, who terrifies potential Conservative voters.0
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It doesn't mAtter how good a player they are, if they're not English they shouldn't play for EnglandOldKingCole said:Swapping Essex (English) Cook for Irish Morgan was SUCH a good idea!
We have just been knocked out of the cup with an Irish captain & lost the ashes 5-0 with a star batsmen who is South African
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It was a self parody by a proud Irishman, who points out we keep on nicking their players, just like we stole their country.SouthamObserver said:
That's a debate and a half. On balance, probably not. So, I'll rephrase: which derogatory epithets about nationalities are permissible and which are not?Indigo said:
Is Irish a race ?SouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
And we still can't win.0 -
Cook deserved to be dropped, but if England had had KP in the team, I think they'd still be in the World Cup.OldKingCole said:Swapping Essex (English) Cook for Irish Morgan was SUCH a good idea!
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Use speech marks when quoting or you leave yourself open to people thinking you said itTheScreamingEagles said:
It was a self parody by a proud Irishman, who points out we keep on nicking their players, just like we stole their country.SouthamObserver said:
That's a debate and a half. On balance, probably not. So, I'll rephrase: which derogatory epithets about nationalities are permissible and which are not?Indigo said:
Is Irish a race ?SouthamObserver said:
Can we have a guide to which derogatory racial epithets are permissible on PB and which aren't?TheScreamingEagles said:Blimey.
The Bog Trotters could make it to the knock out stages whilst we haven't.
Begorrah with you English cricket.
And we still can't win.
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That's actually one of the few Steve Bell cartoons that has made me laugh. The sheer randomness of it appeals, as does the spittle-flecked fury it will produce from certain quarters.Richard_Nabavi said:
Has Steve Bell ever produced anything vaguely resembling a funny cartoon?antifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
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Good point, both.isam said:
Yep I agreeTissue_Price said:
I think you'd do better to lay Cameron as PM after the election if that's what you think.antifrank said:Right, back to politics. There's an intriguing new market on Sporting Index (well, I hadn't seen it before), where you can bet on the Next Government:
"As a result of the 7th May 2015 General Election what will the make up of the next Government be.
0 pts for a Labour Majority
20 pts for a Labour Minorty Government
40 pts for a Labour led Coalition
50 pts for any other outcome not specified
60 pts for a Conservative led Coalition
80 pts for a Conservative Minority Government
100 pts for a Conservative Majority"
The current spread is 49-53. This would look like a fairly clear sell to me, were it not for the fact that Conservative supporters elsewhere seem to be showing irrational exuberance. What do the site elders think?0 -
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Not sure it's a dig at the Scots; more at petty nationalism.antifrank said:
I'm from Norfolk. I don't recall the Scots being particularly quick to get offended on my behalf when all the in-breeding jokes are made, so I'll leave them to join the outrage bus without my assistance on this occasion.Pulpstar said:
Guardian doing it's best to get the "No" onside of the SNPantifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-
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Smarmeron,
"Quite right, stick six fingers up at the swine."
Brilliant.
As I told my kids ... your mother is from Co Cork and I have Irish antecedents. I'm sorry, but you're definitely bog trotters.
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Golly I see what you mean. A real Scarfe-like, "This is sturgeon and i hate her" effort.Richard_Nabavi said:
Has Steve Bell ever produced anything vaguely resembling a funny cartoon?antifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-
Lab rattled by SNP shock. They must be loving the Salmond/ed poster.0 -
I rather admire both of them - not necessarily for their policies - but for their sheer determination to get to the best for Scotland.Richard_Nabavi said:On the Conservative Salmond/Miliband poster, I think they have it slightly wrong. It's Ms Sturgeon, not Alex Salmond, who terrifies potential Conservative voters.
I rather wish we had English politicians with the same guts.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2986066/Lebanese-TV-host-Rima-Karaki-stands-sexist-Islamist-scholar.html
London-based.
I, for one, am sick of this country being used as a base by these people.0 -
Izzy.
I agree with part of that. The first poster was rubbish and the second was everything the first wasn't.
But do people really believe that Ed is in Salmond's pocket and do they care? It's surely superfluous to tell the electorate what they already believe. That he's not up to it......
But more importantly if we have the strongest economy in Europe shouldn't that give them the confidence not to need an attack ad at all and just concentrate on their achievements? Scope for some easy teaser ads ....strongest biggest most successful etc....0 -
Of course not.Indigo said:
That's about £15bn, where is the rest coming from ?another_richard said:
The mistakes this government made was to give all the big talk on 'austerity' and "we're all in this together" but still want to borrow to fund all its pet projects - Overseas Aid, middle eastern warmongering, HS2, pensioner bonds etc.Indigo said:
Perhaps we should cut the crap.another_richard said:
So the near £600bn this government will have borrowed is your definition of 'borrowing not going up'.TGOHF said:So borrowing not going up and lefties blame borrowing.
Clueless.
As for the future take a look at page 81 of the OBN's latest forecast:
http://cdn.budgetresponsibility.independent.gov.uk/December_2014_EFO-web513.pdf
it predicts a rise in household borrowing of over £500bn between 2015 and 2020.
IMO very unlikely to happen but the OBN has to forecast that in order for its prediction of a rapid fall in government borrowing to occur.
Whether it is household or government borrowing the fundamental economic strategy of Brown, Osborne and Balls remains the same ie borrow to consume.
When you have a Labour government that leaves power with £120bn going out the door every year more than comes in, your choices are a bit limited, either you borrow to pay while trying to sort the mess out, or you cut spending by 30% on Day 1 and balance the books, no danger of that being unpopular, what with the public getting mutinous about cutting the rate of increase, never mind actually REALLY cutting anything.
And then to lie about "paying down Britain's debts".
Are you making the assumption that our military cost us nothing to run when it isn't in the middle east ? They still get paid, still burn diesel, and still shoot things.
But if the government's not prepared to make sacrifices on its pet projects why should anyone else agree to make sacrifices on what affects them.
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I'm sure you'd like to thank him for your share of the hundreds of billions he has borrowed.SquareRoot said:another_richard said:
The mistakes this government made was to give all the big talk on 'austerity' and "we're all in this together" but still want to borrow to fund all its pet projects - Overseas Aid, middle eastern warmongering, HS2, pensioner bonds etc.Indigo said:
Perhaps we should cut the crap.another_richard said:
So the near £600bn this government will have borrowed is your definition of 'borrowing not going up'.TGOHF said:So borrowing not going up and lefties blame borrowing.
Clueless.
As for the future take a look at page 81 of the OBN's latest forecast:
http://cdn.budgetresponsibility.independent.gov.uk/December_2014_EFO-web513.pdf
it predicts a rise in household borrowing of over £500bn between 2015 and 2020.
IMO very unlikely to happen but the OBN has to forecast that in order for its prediction of a rapid fall in government borrowing to occur.
Whether it is household or government borrowing the fundamental economic strategy of Brown, Osborne and Balls remains the same ie borrow to consume.
When you have a Labour government that leaves power with £120bn going out the door every year more than comes in, your choices are a bit limited, either you borrow to pay while trying to sort the mess out, or you cut spending by 30% on Day 1 and balance the books, no danger of that being unpopular, what with the public getting mutinous about cutting the rate of increase, never mind actually REALLY cutting anything.
And then to lie about "paying down Britain's debts".
They are paying down Britians debts.. I just got paid out today for my war loan from WW2 Thanks George.
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Cyclefree said:
I rather admire both of them - not necessarily for their policies - but for their sheer determination to get to the best for Scotland.Richard_Nabavi said:On the Conservative Salmond/Miliband poster, I think they have it slightly wrong. It's Ms Sturgeon, not Alex Salmond, who terrifies potential Conservative voters.
I rather wish we had English politicians with the same guts.0 -
For as long as I can remember the Guardian has had a slweird snide anti-Scottish side that shines through now and again.Richard_Nabavi said:
Has Steve Bell ever produced anything vaguely resembling a funny cartoon?antifrank said:Meanwhile, the Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell has ruffled a few Scottish feathers today:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-0
