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  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,183

    Finally confirmed the genocide was real. Several apologies owed starting with Starmer to several of his backbenchers. The list is huge but I hope action is taken.......

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/israel-genocide-children-palestine-un-report-b3001474.html
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 247
    carnforth said:
    Les Dawson;

    “I am not saying my wife is rough but on our wedding day she walked down the Aisle to March of the Gladiators!”

    Peter.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,137

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    I've only ever seen less than a handful of party candidates on parish councils, even when the person is a party candidate elsewhere.

    Where they are called a parish council at any rate. Parties do often now dominate on town councils I find, even if legally there's no difference.

    I don't think it needs banning, but it's very unecessary.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,137

    kle4 said:

    Taz said:

    I feel a bubble is about to burst.

    “ BREAKING: OpenAI is now "leaning toward" pushing its IPO until 2027, per NYT.

    Details include:

    1. "Choppy" markets in recent weeks have led OpenAI to reconsider the timeline of the IPO

    2. The company is worried it may not find much enthusiasm from retail investors

    3. Advisors are recommending OpenAI either wait until 2027 to IPO at $1 trillion or lower the valuation for a quicker IPO

    Recent volatility in tech stocks has raised concerns around OpenAI's IPO.”

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2070248030234706379?s=61

    Their finances got leaked, which deprived OpenAI of the opportunity to put a positive spin on them before the IPO. The numbers are so horrible the market is starting to realise there is no path to profitability.

    And if OpenAI can't IPO it dies, because there is no other way to raise enough money to pay for all the commitments they've made for purchasing hardware and renting compute capacity.
    Why would bad numbers surprise anyone?
    Because they're really quite horrible, a $33bn yearly loss with $20bn of that coming from operations.

    It's costing OpenAI $20bn to run a service that brings in $13bn from customers. They are also spending north of $5bn on marketing to get those customers. This does not include the very significant costs of developing the models, or the enormous spending commitments.

    If my back of an envelope maths are correct, OpenAI needs to either IPO or roughly triple their customer base in a year or they will run out of money around Q3 or Q4 next year.
    The initial funders were hoping being the first major player would lead to a winner takes all scenario, but the big tech companies today weren't the first to get big in their respective specialties, it might be the same with AI.

    It's quite funny to watch. Sam Altman seems to have the weirdness of Musk without prior achievements to back up any belief in him.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,137

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgjm61lkl4o

    Now it makes sense why Whitehall has seized control over planning at Cherwell District Council. They can force through the Bicester plans irrespective of local views.

    They could anyway, but it's easier if taking over at the first stage.

    Of course, many more councils will face the scenario as they'd probably prefer it to approving things they don't like. Always has been a careful dance of course, but a lot of councils are feeling more bullish that there's no benefit to trying to mitigate national policy.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,137

    Roger said:

    dixiedean said:

    Two by elections so far called.

    Camp Hill (Nuneaton & Bedworth) Council By-Election Result:

    ➡️ RFM: 48.7% (+2.6)
    🌹 LAB: 42.4% (+19.3)
    🌳 CON: 8.9% (-2.6)

    No GRN (-17.8) as previous.

    Reform GAIN from Labour.
    Changes w/ 2026.


    Farnworth (Halton) Council By-Election Result:

    🌹 LAB: 51.0% (+14.6)
    ➡️ RFM: 36.4% (-0.0)
    🌳 CON: 7.7% (-5.7)
    🌍 GRN: 4.7% (-9.0)
    🦅 LBT: 0.2% (New)

    Labour HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2026.

    Are Labour suddenly improving?
    Notwithstanding that its another data point of the Tories being nowhere in England despite the Aberdeen result
    The Lib Demification continues.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,147
    edited 12:27AM
    Roger said:


    Finally confirmed the genocide was real. Several apologies owed starting with Starmer to several of his backbenchers. The list is huge but I hope action is taken.......

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/israel-genocide-children-palestine-un-report-b3001474.html

    A report with no evidence in it does not confirm “the genocide” is real Roger. It might be real, but that report certainly doesn’t prove anything.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,134
    Eabhal said:

    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    '64% of Britons would support a law where employers cannot require workers to work if the temperature of the working environment is above 30C'

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2070171606652010698?s=20

    Lazy b@5tards!

    I might be turning right wing in my old age but this is an absurdity. Back at Tanks and Drums in Bradford complaining about the heat would get one escorted out of the factory.

    It was a very matter of fact kind of a place. At a Management meeting the MD, a heavy set bluff Yorkshireman from Queensbury, explained; "salesmen? If it were up to me I wouldn't pay you bastards in washers".
    Imagine working in a foundry or a trade moulder in the middle of summer with that sort of law !!

    Or working all day in PPE with an FP3 mask.

    The issue is more subtle. The problem is not so much temperature, as temprature combined with humidity. The same temperatures that we have had today would be fine with a humidity like that in Phoenix or Marrakesh. It is 72% humidity today here.

    I thought the Australian attitude to this was quite sensible when I was working there - employers take skin cancer and heat stroke seriously and will either reduce work during hot periods or provide the clothing and shelter required.

    The cultural shift required in the UK is going to be difficult to achieve. You’re going to have feeble managers posturing rather than taking a rational approach - can’t imagine ever being given 12-3 off to sit in the shade, or being forced to wear an enormous hat.
    That’s what they do out here in the Middle East. No working in the sun 12:30-15:00, mid-June to mid-September. Either work in the shade in the middle of the day, or split the shift and take a siesta. Bosses have to provide water for workers too.

    It’s obviously easier to organise when it’s predictable that summer’s always going to be hot, as opposed to only a week of it every few years. Same reason Heathrow airport never used to have enough snowploughs!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,134
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    I feel a bubble is about to burst.

    “ BREAKING: OpenAI is now "leaning toward" pushing its IPO until 2027, per NYT.

    Details include:

    1. "Choppy" markets in recent weeks have led OpenAI to reconsider the timeline of the IPO

    2. The company is worried it may not find much enthusiasm from retail investors

    3. Advisors are recommending OpenAI either wait until 2027 to IPO at $1 trillion or lower the valuation for a quicker IPO

    Recent volatility in tech stocks has raised concerns around OpenAI's IPO.”

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2070248030234706379?s=61

    Their finances got leaked, which deprived OpenAI of the opportunity to put a positive spin on them before the IPO. The numbers are so horrible the market is starting to realise there is no path to profitability.

    And if OpenAI can't IPO it dies, because there is no other way to raise enough money to pay for all the commitments they've made for purchasing hardware and renting compute capacity.
    All Good points. I am merely a layman but I cannot see anything other than a business burning through cash with no viable plan to make money.

    At least SpaceX makes money. Even if IPO at 100x earnings was challenging.
    OpenAI is burning through money at an incredible rate of knots, and doesn’t have anything like the required revenue to match the spend. They’re very close to being a zombie company, just as many of the original dot.coms of the late ‘90s never made it.

    At least with SpaceX you can see a number of different revenue streams showing significant growth, including Starlink and orbital launches for which there’s currently little competition, even if the IPO price might turn out to have been a little optimistic.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,239
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    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    I feel a bubble is about to burst.

    “ BREAKING: OpenAI is now "leaning toward" pushing its IPO until 2027, per NYT.

    Details include:

    1. "Choppy" markets in recent weeks have led OpenAI to reconsider the timeline of the IPO

    2. The company is worried it may not find much enthusiasm from retail investors

    3. Advisors are recommending OpenAI either wait until 2027 to IPO at $1 trillion or lower the valuation for a quicker IPO

    Recent volatility in tech stocks has raised concerns around OpenAI's IPO.”

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2070248030234706379?s=61

    Their finances got leaked, which deprived OpenAI of the opportunity to put a positive spin on them before the IPO. The numbers are so horrible the market is starting to realise there is no path to profitability.

    And if OpenAI can't IPO it dies, because there is no other way to raise enough money to pay for all the commitments they've made for purchasing hardware and renting compute capacity.
    All Good points. I am merely a layman but I cannot see anything other than a business burning through cash with no viable plan to make money.

    At least SpaceX makes money. Even if IPO at 100x earnings was challenging.
    OpenAI is burning through money at an incredible rate of knots, and doesn’t have anything like the required revenue to match the spend. They’re very close to being a zombie company, just as many of the original dot.coms of the late ‘90s never made it.

    At least with SpaceX you can see a number of different revenue streams showing significant growth, including Starlink and orbital launches for which there’s currently little competition, even if the IPO price might turn out to have been a little optimistic.
    A little ?
    😁
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,239
    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,463

    HYUFD said:

    '64% of Britons would support a law where employers cannot require workers to work if the temperature of the working environment is above 30C'

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2070171606652010698?s=20

    Lazy b@5tards!

    I might be turning right wing in my old age but this is an absurdity. Back at Tanks and Drums in Bradford complaining about the heat would get one escorted out of the factory.

    It was a very matter of fact kind of a place. At a Management meeting the MD, a heavy set bluff Yorkshireman from Queensbury, explained; "salesmen? If it were up to me I wouldn't pay you bastards in washers".
    He doesn't need to now. According to Companies House it closed so he got his wish.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687
    22C at 0600 here
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020
    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020
    F1: Austrian GP will be hot: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/crelx8d3ye1o

    Quelle surprise.

    I do wonder if this'll affect overall reliability and Mercedes worst of all. We shall see.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687

    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
    That’s in the garden
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020
    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
    That’s in the garden
    Sounds like it'll be even worse there than here. Had a little rain just now but I think it'll just make things muggier rather than refreshing.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687
    What a shame that isn’t the US team knocked out already.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687
    What a shame that isn’t the US team knocked out already.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 5:34AM
    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    ??
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    $3 Trillion, Shirley. The market has risen.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,964

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    ??
    Iran “victory”* deal

    *does not include victory. May well not contain “deal”. Contains nutters.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    Just spotted the last line of the header. TSE is on holiday for five weeks?!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    ??
    Part of the Iranian agreement, as signed in Versailles by the most best and smartest president ever.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    ??
    Part of the Iranian agreement, as signed in Versailles by the most best and smartest president ever.
    Ah yes sorry, I’m a bit groggy this morning. Very good.

    They do say a joke isn’t funny if you have to explain it but that doesn’t allow for the recipient being very dumb!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    If/when Trump does run away can the BBC claim costs?

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    Is it really a victory for the BBC if they don't get at least $300bn, though?
    ??
    Part of the Iranian agreement, as signed in Versailles by the most best and smartest president ever.
    Ah yes sorry, I’m a bit groggy this morning. Very good.

    They do say a joke isn’t funny if you have to explain it but that doesn’t allow for the recipient being very dumb!
    No worries, I've been feeling it a bit every morning this week. Looking forward to Sunday: cooler and there's an F1 race.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    edited 5:55AM

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
    That’s in the garden
    Sounds like it'll be even worse there than here. Had a little rain just now but I think it'll just make things muggier rather than refreshing.
    Massive thunderstorm here just after midnight. 6.6mm of rain which will do the garden good. Already 23.7C outside though.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 5:58AM
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Interesting discovery list.
    It would be the BBC's biggest scoop in years, though I think the chances of Trump complying are extremely low.

    Trump sued the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) for $10 Billion for “intentionally, maliciously, and deceptively doctoring" a speech Trump gave on 6 January 2021, before the US Capitol riots.

    In court, the BBC asked Trump’s lawyers for the following:

    https://x.com/Stornoway_Cove/status/2070249135035257121

    Good morning.

    Trump will run away, as always.

    (Sorry - no new information there.)
    If/when Trump does run away can the BBC claim costs?
    I think that is a matter on which they could submit a motion to ask for a ruling by the Judge.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
    That’s in the garden
    Sounds like it'll be even worse there than here. Had a little rain just now but I think it'll just make things muggier rather than refreshing.
    Massive thunderstorm here just after midnight. 6.6mm of rain which will do the garden good. Already 23.7C outside though.
    BBC saying that as well as hottest ever June day yesterday, last night was a June record for warmest night, in Surrey at 24C
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,285

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    What happened to PB support for free speech?
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    Thus making the sale fall through.

    Also finding out who holds the restrictive covenants now for houses built many years ago.

    People don’t realise just because it’s a permitted development you also may need covenant consent. I’m sure most people don’t know what restrictive covenants apply to their homes. I do because I had a good read when I bought.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    22C at 0600 here

    Good morning, everyone.

    If that's your room temperature, I'm envious. If it's the general temperature (ours is 19) you have my sympathy.
    That’s in the garden
    Sounds like it'll be even worse there than here. Had a little rain just now but I think it'll just make things muggier rather than refreshing.
    Massive thunderstorm here just after midnight. 6.6mm of rain which will do the garden good. Already 23.7C outside though.
    Just had some thunder here. Very dark currently.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 6:07AM
    Heh. A fun little video. Groundhog day for an SUV driver hitting a motorcycle by cutting the same corner as 3 days previously, when she nearly hit him before.

    That will give a belly laugh to the copper on Operation SNAP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAUjKS77T6M
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850
    Rumble of thunder in North Durham although it is rather muggy.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,653

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    What happened to PB support for free speech?
    It's nothing to do with free speech. It's to do with what goes on official election ballots.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    edited 6:09AM
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,653

    Just spotted the last line of the header. TSE is on holiday for five weeks?!

    Slacker!
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,285

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    What happened to PB support for free speech?
    It's nothing to do with free speech. It's to do with what goes on official election ballots.
    You are restricting what people are allowed to say about themselves.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 6:15AM

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,228
    edited 6:13AM
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    Thus making the sale fall through.

    Also finding out who holds the restrictive covenants now for houses built many years ago.

    People don’t realise just because it’s a permitted development you also may need covenant consent. I’m sure most people don’t know what restrictive covenants apply to their homes. I do because I had a good read when I bought.
    Our solicitor made them clear to us.

    The vendors of our current plot tried to put quite a few covenants on because they plan to live in the neighbouring house. We told them we weren’t buying unless they remove them, which eventually they did.

  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850
    edited 6:13AM
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    So, could a restrictive covenant apply to retrofitted air on. I presume so.

    In the case of an older house how would you find who you need to ask ?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020
    Wonderful. Tipping it down with rain and the room's gone from not that bad to humid as an Amazonian lumberjack's underpants.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    So, could a restrictive covenant apply to retrofitted air on. I presume so.

    In the case of an older house how would you find who you need to ask ?
    A covenant would normally be noted on the house deed or lease agreement, and should have come up in searches.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 6:25AM

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    Thus making the sale fall through.

    Also finding out who holds the restrictive covenants now for houses built many years ago.

    People don’t realise just because it’s a permitted development you also may need covenant consent. I’m sure most people don’t know what restrictive covenants apply to their homes. I do because I had a good read when I bought.
    Our solicitor made them clear to us.

    The vendors of our current plot tried to put quite a few covenants on because they plan to live in the neighbouring house. We told them we weren’t buying unless they remove them, which eventually they did.

    IIRC my house has covenants related to when it was built in the 1940s, to protect the developer. They are now dead, so it is effectively unenforcible.

    My neighbour probably has covenants of some sort in my house's favour, because it was built in 1988 on a sie of my garden.

    There will also be something somewhere relating to his drains which run under my back garden.

    I think I also have a covenant to maintain a 5ft wall along my southern boundary, which will be to do with the farmer who sold the original plot back in the mists of time wanting to put the work no somebody else.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,685

    Wonderful. Tipping it down with rain and the room's gone from not that bad to humid as an Amazonian lumberjack's underpants.

    I'm hoping that is drawn from your imagination and not RL....
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 64,020

    Wonderful. Tipping it down with rain and the room's gone from not that bad to humid as an Amazonian lumberjack's underpants.

    I'm hoping that is drawn from your imagination and not RL....
    I am known for my fantastic imagination. Speaking of which, my Norris bet (each way at 11) has now gone out to 13. Hmm.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,653
    Very late and on topic.

    Again I don't like and even actively fear Burnham's policies and politics. But that video shows he is human which could take him a very long way.

    Starmer would simply never have thought of making that sort of response. And you cam see very few PMs from the last few decades having done it.

    Credit where its due.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,155

    NEW THREAD

  • Taz said:

    I feel a bubble is about to burst.

    “ BREAKING: OpenAI is now "leaning toward" pushing its IPO until 2027, per NYT.

    Details include:

    1. "Choppy" markets in recent weeks have led OpenAI to reconsider the timeline of the IPO

    2. The company is worried it may not find much enthusiasm from retail investors

    3. Advisors are recommending OpenAI either wait until 2027 to IPO at $1 trillion or lower the valuation for a quicker IPO

    Recent volatility in tech stocks has raised concerns around OpenAI's IPO.”

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2070248030234706379?s=61

    Their finances got leaked, which deprived OpenAI of the opportunity to put a positive spin on them before the IPO. The numbers are so horrible the market is starting to realise there is no path to profitability.

    And if OpenAI can't IPO it dies, because there is no other way to raise enough money to pay for all the commitments they've made for purchasing hardware and renting compute capacity.
    AI is a massive bubble of overhyped nonsense.

    Google is fortunate in that they have a sufficient business that isn’t AI, so when this all bursts they’ll still be around.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,653

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    What happened to PB support for free speech?
    It's nothing to do with free speech. It's to do with what goes on official election ballots.
    You are restricting what people are allowed to say about themselves.
    No you are restricting what officials are allowed to write about them on official documents.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 34,653
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
    A lot of housing estates around Newark when they were built in the 1960s had covenants put on them by the developer. Things like people not being allowed to have walls, fences or hedges around their back gardens - which had shared back paths.

    By the time we moved into one of those houses in the 90s most people were simply ignoring the covenants
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,554
    MattW said:

    Heh. A fun little video. Groundhog day for an SUV driver hitting a motorcycle by cutting the same corner as 3 days previously, when she nearly hit him before.

    That will give a belly laugh to the copper on Operation SNAP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAUjKS77T6M

    Appalling.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    You’d need insurance, or your solicitor would,advice you got it before purchasing, if proof could not be offered of covenant consent
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687

    Taz said:

    My MP on a big win today !!

    There was a GOTV campaign too from Labour. I know Sacriston quite well. Cycle through it quite regularly.


    ‘ Great result in our local byelection for Sacriston Parish Council today:
    Labour 268 (68.2%)
    Lib Dem 125 (31.8%)’


    https://x.com/lukeakehurst/status/2070257035849908615?s=61

    We should ban party affiliations on parish councils. It is completely unnecessary and is only a fairly recent development. In 1991 only 10% of Parish and Town councillors had a declared party affiliation and only 4% of councils were run on political lines.
    What happened to PB support for free speech?
    It's nothing to do with free speech. It's to do with what goes on official election ballots.
    The other consideration is that, unlike for parliaments and principal councils, where deploying say a third of their numbers to the job of 'opposing' arguably serves a worthwhile purpose in terms of governance and utilisation of resources (not everyone can be a decision-maker), in the small-team environment of a parish council, things work better when all the councillors contribute, as and where they can, to running the council. It's not really optimal when you only have say eight people to begin with to tag five of them as the administration and the other three as the opposition.

    That said, due to personalities and indeed often political differences, it can often work out like that - and people on the inside typically know the political allegiances of the various parish councillors; it's just that with non-political elections these are hidden from the voters.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
    A lot of housing estates around Newark when they were built in the 1960s had covenants put on them by the developer. Things like people not being allowed to have walls, fences or hedges around their back gardens - which had shared back paths.

    By the time we moved into one of those houses in the 90s most people were simply ignoring the covenants
    Presumably as this had been in place for so long the chances of any covenant being enforced, assuming they could find the right people to approach, would be nil due to longevity with no complaint.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 62,134
    Don’t see much of Russia on fire this morning, so instead have the 15km queue of thousands of vehicles waiting to get over the Kerch Bridge out of Crimea.

    https://x.com/maria_drutska/status/2070403688372269522

    Ukraine is telling everyone on the peninsula, civilian and military, to leave as soon as possible, and the Kerch Bridge is now the only reliable way out still left, for light vehicles only.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    edited 11:43AM

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish
    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
    A lot of housing estates around Newark when they were built in the 1960s had covenants put on them by the developer. Things like people not being allowed to have walls, fences or hedges around their back gardens - which had shared back paths.

    By the time we moved into one of those houses in the 90s most people were simply ignoring the covenants
    Similarly here on many estates.

    My dad laid out some of the local estates in that time as a Council Architect, including serviced plots. One thing he did on the serviced plots known to me was to make all householders agree to plant a tree on their serviced plot, which I would expect to be in a covenant.

    it is still quite green. It's fascinating how accepting British people can be of initial conventions that can set cultural DNA, and how they persist. That is something to do with living under common law, perhaps.

    That can work the other way too. If there is no "Motorbike ASB" problem (usually the case), but "anti motorbike" obstructions are put in which exclude wheelchairs etc, 10 or 30 years later there will quite possibly be a local cultural belief that there was a problem, and that making the pathways accessible will cause it to come straight back.

    There's a similar thing with pavement parking or other ASB on unadopted estates. The developer may be responsible until the Council adopts, and will not spend money preventing the habit and Councils cannot (aiui) enforce. Then by the time it becomes a council managed set of roads 3 or 10 years later, it is very difficult to fix, as it is now a qeustion of culture change.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,764
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
    A lot of housing estates around Newark when they were built in the 1960s had covenants put on them by the developer. Things like people not being allowed to have walls, fences or hedges around their back gardens - which had shared back paths.

    By the time we moved into one of those houses in the 90s most people were simply ignoring the covenants
    Presumably as this had been in place for so long the chances of any covenant being enforced, assuming they could find the right people to approach, would be nil due to longevity with no complaint.
    Very probably. It needs the body or person that has the "benefit" of the covenant still to be extant.

    There are some bodies that stay around for longer. A different situation may exist, for example, on the Bournville Estate or in Hampstead Garden Suburb, or perhaps Bedford Park in Chiswick or The Park Estate in Nottingham, depending on how it is managed. For those it may well be done via Conservation Area or listing of properties.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,850
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    You need planning permission to install aircon in the U.K. ?

    https://x.com/nonregemesse/status/2070243190892867957?s=61

    Funny when I said about how stupid planning rules are here you said I was stupid
    It’s a question. Answered by Malmesbury.

    I’m also unsure if, even if it’s a permitted development, you’d need covenant consent.
    Utter gibberish

    Covenant consent is where, even if you are the freeholder, you have to ask for permission if you have restrictive covenants on your property. I own the freehold on my house but there are restrictive covenants. Height of fences etc etc.

    My wife had to do so when she put a porch on her house, it was a permitted development but still needed covenant consent.

    She did obtain it, from Yuill.

    However it can be a problem selling homes and there is specialised insurance where people haven’t got it as neighbours can complain and it fall foul of that.

    https://www.geplegal.co.uk/restrictive-covenant-indemnity-insurance/
    ChatGPT spit out convincing sounding gibberish
    No, my personal experience. I dealt with the sale of my wife’s house last year. I don’t even use ChatGPt 👍 if it’s gibberish why were we asked for it by the vendors solicitor. In fact I won’t waste any more time on this with you.

    My own home has restrictive covenants. For example no fence can be erected above 2 metres.

    You’ll find I’m right. Ask one of those experts you humblebrag about knowing while vagueposting some worthless shite anyone could have got on Twitter. “I have it on good authority ……” 😂😂😂😂

    When’s your next flounce due ?
    Restrictive covenant insurance is fun. If you go to the trouble to find out what the situation actually is, the risk is no longer a known unknown so insurance may become impossible.
    But if you know what the restrictive covenant situation is why would you need insurance ? The buyers can decide if they are happy with the covenant or not.

    What would you be insuring against?

    The idea that you might need ‘covenants consent’ to fit air con seems very unlikely to me - only if a previous owner has slapped on a covenant not to allow it. I’d be surprised if there’s ever been an example of that.
    It could be something like someone selling off their back garden for a plot, who was concerned about noise so restricted any mechanical devices installed on their side of any new house.

    So the insurance could be against someone attempting to enforce that covenant, rather than risking asking for permission and dealing with the consequences of being told "no".
    A lot of housing estates around Newark when they were built in the 1960s had covenants put on them by the developer. Things like people not being allowed to have walls, fences or hedges around their back gardens - which had shared back paths.

    By the time we moved into one of those houses in the 90s most people were simply ignoring the covenants
    Presumably as this had been in place for so long the chances of any covenant being enforced, assuming they could find the right people to approach, would be nil due to longevity with no complaint.
    Very probably. It needs the body or person that has the "benefit" of the covenant still to be extant.

    There are some bodies that stay around for longer. A different situation may exist, for example, on the Bournville Estate or in Hampstead Garden Suburb, or perhaps Bedford Park in Chiswick or The Park Estate in Nottingham, depending on how it is managed. For those it may well be done via Conservation Area or listing of properties.
    It’s, to a saddo like me, a fascinating subject.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,247
    https://x.com/RALee85/status/2070481519223697793

    Former Russian Defense Minister, Security Council Secretary, and Chief of Staff of the Presidential Administration Sergei Ivanov has died.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,687
    Norway France should be a cracker this evening?
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