I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
On the other hand, hasn't Burnham supposedly said we should honour the 5 year ILR that these people came in on, and only apply a longer period to newer entrants.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
No Burnham has not said that directly he is rumoured to be sympathetic to the argument but that’s it. Nothing is concreter.
Does it matter what he says. He changes horse mid race all the time.
During the by election he certainly did not commit to it.
The extension of ILR by five years is about saving money for the treasury. It’s the right thing to do.
The Burnham tactic seems to be to listen to any complainant, and say he's "sympathetic", without ever actually promising anything. I'm not sure if this is brilliant or stupid.
I could lose money on this market now and then I will also have to deal with whatever madcap Ed M fiscal ideas he has been hiding in drawer for years since he was a Brown Spad and can now see the light of day. Chimney tax? Treble VAT on concrete?
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
Just remember Badenoch is the Radiohead of politicians, so is beyond criticism.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
God, stop bleating.
But Not Sweeney! Yet more blatant Anti Scottish bias!
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
You have claimed this before but as has been pointed out many times it is not really true.
Singapore has 2 distinct migration pathways.
High skilled - can lead to permanent residence. Comparable rights and responsibilities to British migration.
Unskilled - no path to permanent residence. Forbidden from bringing dependents. Forbidden from marrying Singaporeans.
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
Clearly a lot of briefing against Mahmood, probably by Labour colleagues vehemently opposed to the ILR changes and wanting even more taxpayers money given out by the DWP to people who won’t be net contributors
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Investing in a decent education system that allows bright kids from council estates in the NE of England (or Glasgow) to become doctors is a heck of a lot harder than just importing them.
At my Medical School we do have an active programme to recruit from such underserved places with our Access to Medicine course.
The scheme was poorly thought out and exploited by the care homes and agencies. My parent had carers at home before it became infeasible, 3 Nigerians on shift who were really good, considerably better than the carers from the UK care agency. They had to pay the agency for the visa, the care agency hasn't placed them again since my parent went into a care home over a year ago and their visa only allows them to work for the agency that holds their visa. The solution could be to free up their visas so they can work s carers for other employers.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
You have claimed this before but as has been pointed out many times it is not really true.
Singapore has 2 distinct migration pathways.
High skilled - can lead to permanent residence. Comparable rights and responsibilities to British migration.
Unskilled - no path to permanent residence. Forbidden from bringing dependents. Forbidden from marrying Singaporeans.
Is that the path you want us to take?
Oh and don't forget the 300k who cross the border to work each day, equivelent to 10% of the adult population. Nice low wage workforce you can keep off the books to make earnings look good!
For those PBers like me who love American politics and history, there's a new Netflix series on the Revolution - exec producer Tom Hanks and all star cast of interviewees and so on:
"Home Office believe he will be sacked for breaching collective responsibility. One government source reflecting the HO view says: “Mike Tapp is expected to be sacked for breaching the Ministerial Code. “He has taken possible ideas that the Home Secretary and her team were working on, and briefed them as his own to try to win a job in the new administration."
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
Is it serious enough to bring down the Starmer government?
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
On the other hand, hasn't Burnham supposedly said we should honour the 5 year ILR that these people came in on, and only apply a longer period to newer entrants.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
No Burnham has not said that directly he is rumoured to be sympathetic to the argument but that’s it. Nothing is concreter.
Does it matter what he says. He changes horse mid race all the time.
During the by election he certainly did not commit to it.
The extension of ILR by five years is about saving money for the treasury. It’s the right thing to do.
The Burnham tactic seems to be to listen to any complainant, and say he's "sympathetic", without ever actually promising anything. I'm not sure if this is brilliant or stupid.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
How many NEETS, disability claimants and general layabouts does Singapore have in its population ?
The UK has welfarised its locals, not upskilled them.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
For those PBers like me who love American politics and history, there's a new Netflix series on the Revolution - exec producer Tom Hanks and all star cast of interviewees and so on:
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
How many NEETS, disability claimants and general layabouts does Singapore have in its population ?
The UK has welfarised its locals, not upskilled them.
I don't think NEETs get welfare.
When we look at the employment rate by country Singapore is only slightly ahead of the UK at 75.5% vs us on 74.5%.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
Shabana Mahmood has been on Team Burnham, and keeping her head down. Mike Tapp is an outrider for Keir Starmer and has opposed a change of PM
Could this be a moment tensions bubble over - will he be sacked or not
On the other hand, hasn't Burnham supposedly said we should honour the 5 year ILR that these people came in on, and only apply a longer period to newer entrants.
In which case Tapp is in line with the incoming PM and Mahmood is not.
No Burnham has not said that directly he is rumoured to be sympathetic to the argument but that’s it. Nothing is concreter.
Does it matter what he says. He changes horse mid race all the time.
During the by election he certainly did not commit to it.
The extension of ILR by five years is about saving money for the treasury. It’s the right thing to do.
The Burnham tactic seems to be to listen to any complainant, and say he's "sympathetic", without ever actually promising anything. I'm not sure if this is brilliant or stupid.
Brilliant short term.
Stupid long term.
Well when the WASPI women were encouraged by him and people were pointing out we hadn’t got the money he quickly reverse ferreted to free bus passes. Which all WASPI women will have anyway.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
Is it serious enough to bring down the Starmer government?
Andy needs to put his foot down before the squatter does any more damage.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
I’m sure that you won’t be ejected for fessing up
I'll apologise when she apologises to Phillipson.
Nobody asked for an apology
It’s so weird how determined you are to refuse to just accept that you were wrong, like it would be apologising to the devil..
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
How many NEETS, disability claimants and general layabouts does Singapore have in its population ?
The UK has welfarised its locals, not upskilled them.
I don't think NEETs get welfare.
When we look at the employment rate by country Singapore is only slightly ahead of the UK at 75.5% vs us on 74.5%.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Good* article about Korea where they cut low wage immigration leading to a loss of employment (offset obviously by fewer immigrants), but more importantly also led to a reduction of average wages in the indigenous population.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
Is it serious enough to bring down the Starmer government?
I'm sure Starmer can squeeze in one more "reset" before his handover.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
I’m sure that you won’t be ejected for fessing up
I'll apologise when she apologises to Phillipson.
Nobody asked for an apology
It’s so weird how determined you are to refuse to just accept that you were wrong, like it would be apologising to the devil..
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
Is it serious enough to bring down the Starmer government?
I'm sure Starmer can squeeze in one more "reset" before his handover.
He disowned the island of strangers speech because he said he hadn’t read it. Maybe he can try that with his resignation.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
I’m sure that you won’t be ejected for fessing up
I'll apologise when she apologises to Phillipson.
Nobody asked for an apology
It’s so weird how determined you are to refuse to just accept that you were wrong, like it would be apologising to the devil..
You lefties are strange
To be fair this trait isn't confined to lefties - I can think of at least one right wing denizen of this board who will blandly state something - about which he cares relatively little - which quickly gets shown to be wrong - who will bed in for days and days in the face of everyone telling him he is wrong, adopting an ever more contrived and ridiculous position, rather than admit he is wrong. It can be quitr magnificent to watch.
Indeed, admitting you're wrong about is a relatively rare skill. I remember being seriously impressed when I first observed it aged 18. It went something like this: Ian: the 1982 World Cup in Mexico... [collective intake of breath] Steve: Fool! the 1982 World Cup was in Spain! Ian: Ah, yeah, you're not wrong [general bafflement - because by nornal conversational rules, Ian should have to spend the next 2 days insisting it was in Mexico while Steve mocked him and hectored him, the issue only being resolved when Steve similarly misspoke and roles could be reversed. This was revelatory...]
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Well you can fly Saudia then. No drinks in their lounges nor on their planes.
Haven't the Saudis got the World Cup next? ISTR one of them said you could enjoy football without alcohol. Wankers.
They've got 2034 (which will take place in Jan 2035)
2030 is Spain, Portugal, & Morocco plus a few South American countries with one off games.
Bloofy hell FIFA. Stop overcomplicating things. Criteria should be: - one country, or, at most two which are next to each other. - nowhere which is run by a madman. - nowhere which has recently invaded somewhere - nowhere which is funding terrorism. - nowhere where beer is frowned upon. - nowhere which necessitates the thing being played in winter.
I think the last one is a bit harsh, because you're eliminating countries because of the accident of geography.
Also, the beer one gives cover not to go to the Gulf.
I don't see a problem with not going to the Gulf. It's there for the fans. It's supposed to be five weeks of bacchanalian excess. This is another reason I don't like multi-country World Cups. In the old days, a group would play all its matches in two adjacent stadiums. Forcing fans to watch a match in Asuncion then another in Casablanca and a third in Porto is stupid.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
‘And now we turn to nostril hair..’
Not afflicted with that. Also my ears haven't yet made their presence felt. Just not a proper old man in these key respects. But I do, I'm happy to report, have that strangely pleasant feeling that the world is accelerating away from me.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
He also died of a heart attack at 56!
Peter.
56 is a decent break to be fair. Think my best was only low thirties and that was just the once.
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
‘And now we turn to nostril hair..’
For any females loitering - it's worth pointing out that this is what a male-only environment sounds like most of the time. Carving the world up between us to entrench male privilege is an extremely slender slice of the conversational pie.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
He also died of a heart attack at 56!
Peter.
Fair play. He had a good life and did a lot.
Like the greatest Scottish Sports star of all time, Jocky Wilson
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
you never get a night off in the hot hot heat of summer mr glenn?
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
Indeed. Lets stop giving £39bn out in landlord subsidy.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
Yes, *impairment. I blame the hangover.
Although actually it sort of worked anyway. A drunk driver sometimes will be 'inhibited' in the sense they'll be anxious about being stopped and will drive in a very slow studious manner.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
The achievement was getting the beer allowed as a tax deductible expense.
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
Indeed. Lets stop giving £39bn out in landlord subsidy.
And let’s stopping giving out billions to people who are just a little fed up, and while we’re at it scrap motability and just give people basic models. Like a Yaris or those blue cars you used to see at the soccer. In the seventies.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
He also died of a heart attack at 56!
Peter.
56 is a decent break to be fair. Think my best was only low thirties and that was just the once.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Fine. But I'm not about to buy a beard trimmer just to do my eyebrows. I use what I have anyway - scissors and a razor (since I wet shave).
Burnham has charisma and a sense of humour which is a feature of most general election majority winners this century eg Blair, Cameron and Johnson and will help him against the equally charismatic and humorous Farage and the less humorous but somewhat charismatic Kemi. Sir Keir always was a bit stiff and took himself too seriously, while he good do the administrative side of being PM reasonably competently the PR and people engaging side he was less good at, rather as Theresa May or Gordon Brown or Ted Heath were. It was the Tories who lost the 2024 general election more than Sir Keir who won it, although he did move it back to the centre ground where most elections are won. Burnham will take a risk if he moves Labour back left again, although he will still be right of where Corbyn led Labour
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Fine. But I'm not about to buy a beard trimmer just to do my eyebrows. I use what I have anyway - scissors and a razor (since I wet shave).
Perhaps the Remington Fuzz Away would do the job ?
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
Indeed. Lets stop giving £39bn out in landlord subsidy.
And let’s stopping giving out billions to people who are just a little fed up, and while we’re at it scrap motability and just give people basic models. Like a Yaris or those blue cars you used to see at the soccer. In the seventies.
Half agree. We should stop giving (some of) them billions but use a decent chunk of those billions to help them lead better lives instead. For both depression and mobility. For the avoidance of doubt in both areas there will be many who genuinely need significant financial help and that's fine, but also some who would be better off with support rather than money.
Every required element is present in this BBC story, a parable for our age:
A man who was restrained on a Jet2 flight by fellow travellers after he allegedly assaulted another passenger and cabin crew, has died.
Police were called to reports of a passenger attacking another customer and a staff member on the Jet2 flight from Cyprus to Manchester and being "disruptive and aggressive" in the early hours of Monday.
On landing at Manchester Airport, officers used handcuffs to detain Callum Kerr, 35, of Warrington, but quickly found he was "unresponsive" and performed CPR on him before taking him to hospital, Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said.
Kerr, a bare-knuckle fighter, died on Tuesday. An investigation into his death is under way.
Paying tribute, Kerr's loved ones said: "Callum was a family man, father to three beautiful young children, a lover of sport and with a heart of gold."
It's not the devout Muslim speaking but I think banning alcohol at airport and planes needs to be instigated.
Yeah, collective punishment. Great idea. 👍
As for this bloke in this article. Some tough guy he was !! Took down by corpulent retired sales managers from Trafford.
Isn’t the ban on drink driving collective punishment? There are probably millions who could drive home safely from the pub but it’s not allowed because some idiots push it too far and end up causing death or injury.
Sticking shit-faced muppets in a hot tin can at 30,000 feet could have bad consequences, usually doesn’t but just because it usually doesn’t is that a reason to allow it?
Personally I can see both sides of the argument but like I said, there are many laws we have because of a few idiots or small bad possibilities.
No, it's because most drunk drivers are lucky enough to get home without passing a cyclist or a wayward child. 100% of them are unsafe, and the inhibition starts long before you feel the buzz.
I've been very drunk before (last night....) and never once punched someone. I don't think the comparison works at all.
The impairment increases as the inhibition decreases, I'd say. There are some things people do better with a buzz on but driving isn't one of them. I've tried it. Hardly hit a fairway.
True enough. Decades ago when I played golf occasionally I was with a couple of friends and while waiting for the last arrival we had a swift pint. While we hardly felt inebriated at all, our shots were so bad that we abandoned the round after a couple of holes. A useful lesson learned.
Pool, however, is famously a different matter. There is a sweet spot. For me it's about 2-3 pints.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
He also died of a heart attack at 56!
Peter.
56 is a decent break to be fair. Think my best was only low thirties and that was just the once.
That’s a bit off colour, even Black!
Peter.
When we hit the watershed my replies might get a little blue.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
Did Kemi misspeak this time? And did you erroneously think she had when you posted?
It was a joke, but if we are no longer allowed to make jokes about Badenoch I can run with that.
I would argue I have been very balanced of late. Critical of Lowe, Farage, Starmer, Burnham and Badenoch. But if the site rules are now that we have to be nice to Kemi (even when she has been nasty) rules are rules.
You can make all the jokes you like, but at least admit when they’re stupidly wrong jokes
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
I’m sure that you won’t be ejected for fessing up
I'll apologise when she apologises to Phillipson.
Nobody asked for an apology
It’s so weird how determined you are to refuse to just accept that you were wrong, like it would be apologising to the devil..
You lefties are strange
To be fair this trait isn't confined to lefties - I can think of at least one right wing denizen of this board who will blandly state something - about which he cares relatively little - which quickly gets shown to be wrong - who will bed in for days and days in the face of everyone telling him he is wrong, adopting an ever more contrived and ridiculous position, rather than admit he is wrong. It can be quitr magnificent to watch.
Indeed, admitting you're wrong about is a relatively rare skill. I remember being seriously impressed when I first observed it aged 18. It went something like this: Ian: the 1982 World Cup in Mexico... [collective intake of breath] Steve: Fool! the 1982 World Cup was in Spain! Ian: Ah, yeah, you're not wrong [general bafflement - because by nornal conversational rules, Ian should have to spend the next 2 days insisting it was in Mexico while Steve mocked him and hectored him, the issue only being resolved when Steve similarly misspoke and roles could be reversed. This was revelatory...]
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
Indeed. Lets stop giving £39bn out in landlord subsidy.
And let’s stopping giving out billions to people who are just a little fed up, and while we’re at it scrap motability and just give people basic models. Like a Yaris or those blue cars you used to see at the soccer. In the seventies.
Half agree. We should stop giving (some of) them billions but use a decent chunk of those billions to help them lead better lives instead. For both depression and mobility. For the avoidance of doubt in both areas there will be many who genuinely need significant financial help and that's fine, but also some who would be better off with support rather than money.
If you’ve got to spend the money then repurposing it to get a better outcome would be the sensible thing to do.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Fine. But I'm not about to buy a beard trimmer just to do my eyebrows. I use what I have anyway - scissors and a razor (since I wet shave).
Perhaps the Remington Fuzz Away would do the job ?
No doubt. But I just don't need to adopt that sort of advanced technology. Not for my eyebrows or anything else.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I don’t want to flag it, but being banished to Roger’s Coventry might be worth it..
This is about as good a response to KB's jibe at PMQs as he could muster. I still don't like Burnham, but he is infinitely more likeable than SKS
Burnham probably has the most 'normal' personal life of any PM since Cameron which must work in his favour as well.
More normal even than Eton and son of a stockbroker and grandson of a baronet and sixth cousin once removed of the King Dave, Burnham's parents were lower middle class and he went to a Catholic comp
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I don’t want to flag it, but being banished to Roger’s Coventry might be worth it..
A blessing in disguise
Depends what part. If it’s a place like Stoke Aldermoor or Kereseley they’re toilets. There are nicer places
Shabana Mahmood to sack immigration minister for ‘unauthorised remarks’
In a piece for The Times, Mike Tapp called for foreign care workers to be exempt from reforms, but the home secretary was unaware he had written the article
Mike Tapp, the immigration minister, is expected to be sacked after he wrote an unauthorised article calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from her hardline immigration reforms.
In an article for The Times, Tapp said it was his “strong belief” that migrant care workers should not have to wait longer to apply for permanent settlement.
Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, was unaware he had written the article and he is expected to be sacked from his job as minister for migration and citizenship for breaching the ministerial code.
Oh well he won't be a minister in the next few years..
“Care worker” visas were the first to be abused - and to farcical levels.
Several care home companies, apparently, imported multiple hundred percent of their staff size. Without their staff size increasing.
When the current government cut them off, a delegation went to No. 10 to try and apply pressure. They were told that perhaps they could fill their staff shortages from the large numbers of people they’d given visas to, who weren’t working in the care sector.
There has been continual pressure to restart the scheme, of course.
Give them all ILR then those wiping arses won’t be doing it for long so they probably will need to open up the Visas again !
I know things are tight, but could we just pay £16 an hour instead of £13 an hour and have no visas? See also prison guard visas. And TfL station assistants. And so on.
Well yes, of course.
And this is something I swing back on forth on. On the one hand, why do we want to be importing low skilled labour?
On the other, take Singapore, they have lots of low skilled immigration, because they've done a really good job of upskilling the locals. Isn't that a model we should be replicating?
Good* article about Korea where they cut low wage immigration leading to a loss of employment (offset obviously by fewer immigrants), but more importantly also led to a reduction of average wages in the indigenous population.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
The latest vile policy by Reform which will destroy EU relations and lead to many losing jobs . Jenrick really loves the cruelty . Reform are a cancer on this country .
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I don’t want to flag it, but being banished to Roger’s Coventry might be worth it..
A blessing in disguise
Depends what part. If it’s a place like Stoke Aldermoor or Kereseley they’re toilets. There are nicer places
The ring road is also a pain
I'll raise you Radford. I lived there for a few months.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
You make stupid and incorrect, and never funny, Kemi “jokes”
I think that you should find a new hobby
But you should never be banned until you mention GGs
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
No - but more why would the person worry about @Roger sending them to Coventry-indeed some may see it a badge of honour
Just out of interest what exactly do people keen on reducing benefits to people of working age think they are going to live on or indeed afford to keep a roof over their heads?
Peter.
If you gave everyone of working age an extra £10k a year, what would happen to rents?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
No - but more why would the person worry about @Roger sending them to Coventry-indeed some may see it a badge of honour
That’s ridiculous
To start with - how can @Woger send someone to Coventry? He wouldn’t know where that is.
I'm not sure Andy always looks like he's enjoying his job. I've been with him off and on all day - the restaurant car was the best place for reading and socialising - and he's been dour throughout. Even when he dropped off my chicken kebab just now there was a look of boredom combined with barely disguised contempt.
I tell you what though, anyone who enjoys a long train journey (I've been on this for 17 hours a far and 3 to go) would love the Dogu Express. The views are incredible. I've managed to get 3/4 through the highly relevant Snow by Orhan Pamuk which is set in tonight's destination, Kars.
The are times when we really miss that old ‘off topic’ button.
In my defence I did earlier post a Burnham for scale photo.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
No - but more why would the person worry about @Roger sending them to Coventry-indeed some may see it a badge of honour
A bit of an unnecessary pile on to Roger from Team Kemi.
This place would be so much better if only Conservatives could post.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
Well, she is a notorious consumer of Social Media.
She must be one for the UK's top political blog. I reckon she is under deep cover, but who?
Perhaps even an elaborate double bluff and she is you...
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
No - but more why would the person worry about @Roger sending them to Coventry-indeed some may see it a badge of honour
A bit of an unnecessary pile on to Roger from Team Kemi.
This place would be so much better if only Conservatives could post.
Why do you incessantly do this “we’re excluded” thing when it’s obvious horseshit?
Is there a psychological condition that needs to be hated?
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Fine. But I'm not about to buy a beard trimmer just to do my eyebrows. I use what I have anyway - scissors and a razor (since I wet shave).
Perhaps the Remington Fuzz Away would do the job ?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I would just say flagging any post is something I have never done, nor would I, but how do you know he is not a she and why would they even care if you sent them to Coventry ?
Are you suggesting Badenoch posts on here?
No - but more why would the person worry about @Roger sending them to Coventry-indeed some may see it a badge of honour
That’s ridiculous
To start with - how can @Woger send someone to Coventry? He wouldn’t know where that is.
I worked there for a bit. Lucky man @roger if he doesn't know it.
I very much doubt it was @IanB2. I suspect I broke the cardinal rule of dismissing Badenoch.
It didn’t deserve a flag, but you did ironically oppose a stupidly wrong post about which of lashes and brows Mascara Man is famous for
Unless you’ve become the Kemi fan?
I am a state schoolboy and not very bright so you will have to explain that post to me. Interestingly I had marked your card as the flagger.
I don’t believe that I’ve ever deliberately flagged a post here on purpose. I have a couple of times by accident, which I’ve unflagged as soon as I’ve realised
IanB2 thinks that Burnham Brows is what he’s known for. He’s called Mascara Man; mascara goes on eyelashes
You said Kemi would never misspeak, in a way that read like you were sure that Kemi had misspoken
Do you think mascara goes on eyebrows, like Ian seems to, or are you a Kemi fan?
Is that simply enough spelt out for you?
Thank you for the explanation. I wouldn't dream of making my Dennis Healey eyebrows more pronounced. The first thing the Turkish barber does is get the strimmer out on those bad boys.
I also have bushy ones. But unlike you I find myself saying, "no it's ok, I'll do that myself when I get home" if the hairdresser asks that question. Not totally sure why I say that, but I always do.
Just go over them with a beard trimmer at a long length. Means you don't end up looking like alien as with a barber, but also not unkempt.
Sounds good. Although what I do is just scissors to break the back of it then a shaving razor for the finish. About once a quarter.
'To break the back of them' ?! - what sort of monsters are we talking here?
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair. VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
Fine. But I'm not about to buy a beard trimmer just to do my eyebrows. I use what I have anyway - scissors and a razor (since I wet shave).
Perhaps the Remington Fuzz Away would do the job ?
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I don’t want to flag it, but being banished to Roger’s Coventry might be worth it..
A blessing in disguise
Depends what part. If it’s a place like Stoke Aldermoor or Kereseley they’re toilets. There are nicer places
The ring road is also a pain
I'll raise you Radford. I lived there for a few months.
'A quiver to have in your bow' you wouldn't get that from a state school boy.......
Talking of which any one listening to radio 4 News with Evan Davis would have heard him interview a woman in Venezuala describing the damage and other things surrounding the earthquakes. She was super articulate and gave the best description- as in painting a picture -that I have so far heard. All we were told at the end of her interview is that she was a Canadian who teaches at a local school.
I was particularly curious who and how they uncovered this wasted talent.
I think theatrical language, even when misspoken is missing from the state schoolboy quiver of arrows. I write as a state schoolboy. Posh boys on here do have a splendid turn of phrase. Scumbag filth, not so much.
Although we scumbag filth do have a sense of humour, unlike the PB Kemi fanboi who has just given me another flag.
That'll make up for your flag but who is PB Kemi fanboi? He will be forever in Coventry from me at least
I don’t want to flag it, but being banished to Roger’s Coventry might be worth it..
A blessing in disguise
Depends what part. If it’s a place like Stoke Aldermoor or Kereseley they’re toilets. There are nicer places
The ring road is also a pain
The ring road is genius when you understand it. I lived there for 6 years. First night or so when in Cov proper I drove round it twice. Essentially you have to override your natural keep left instinct. You are meant to stay right until you want to exit. The entrance/exits can be a bit hairy, mind.
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Trouble between Starmer and Mahmood over Mike Tapp who Mamood wants sacked and Starmer refuses
17th July cannot come quick enough
I could lose money on this market now and then I will also have to deal with whatever madcap Ed M fiscal ideas he has been hiding in drawer for years since he was a Brown Spad and can now see the light of day. Chimney tax? Treble VAT on concrete?
Yet more blatant Anti Scottish bias!
FREEDOM!
Peter.
You just jumped on a Kemi misspeak opportunity without bothering to check the detail. It’s no big deal, but it’s surely true
I’m sure that you won’t be ejected for fessing up
I think by 2034 we're going to have a 64 team world cup.
https://x.com/i/status/2070199722175078607
Singapore has 2 distinct migration pathways.
High skilled - can lead to permanent residence. Comparable rights and responsibilities to British migration.
Unskilled - no path to permanent residence. Forbidden from bringing dependents. Forbidden from marrying Singaporeans.
Is that the path you want us to take?
Yet another government source weighs in - this is a big pile on reflecting the chaos in government right now.
“Andy is going to have the same problem with Shabana that Keir has. She and her operation are totally out of control, and think rules only apply to others, not themselves. I give it six months.”
Feels like this story is a tipping point
They had to pay the agency for the visa, the care agency hasn't placed them again since my parent went into a care home over a year ago and their visa only allows them to work for the agency that holds their visa.
The solution could be to free up their visas so they can work s carers for other employers.
Nice low wage workforce you can keep off the books to make earnings look good!
Peter.
For those PBers like me who love American politics and history, there's a new Netflix series on the Revolution - exec producer Tom Hanks and all star cast of interviewees and so on:
https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81930567
"Home Office believe he will be sacked for breaching collective responsibility. One government source reflecting the HO view says: “Mike Tapp is expected to be sacked for breaching the Ministerial Code.
“He has taken possible ideas that the Home Secretary and her team were working on, and briefed them as his own to try to win a job in the new administration."
Stupid long term.
The UK has welfarised its locals, not upskilled them.
Hopefully not the same quality gap between Hank’s’ WWII series and World at War, though I fear the worst.
When we look at the employment rate by country Singapore is only slightly ahead of the UK at 75.5% vs us on 74.5%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_employment_rate
They’re worse
I used to work at a company that made steering wheels and they used scalpels to trim the wheels post moulded.
I used a scalpel more than once to trim mine. Not repeated for years a happy plucking despatches them.
Nostril hairs are a different matter.
It’s so weird how determined you are to refuse to just accept that you were wrong, like it would be apologising to the devil..
You lefties are strange
Working age people not working is okay - I plan to be one well before my state pension age.
The problem is when working age people are not working and instead claiming welfare.
I go for the beard trimmer method. Which is also my method of cutting my hair.
VITALLY IMPORTANT: while the beard trimmer gives you an excellent haircut: better than the barber can do if your main criterion is 'short' - and does a great job, with the guard off, of tidying up behind the ears - you MUST remember to then replace the guard before doing your eyebrows. A setting of '6' means nothing without the guard.
I learned this lesson the hard way a fortnight or so back.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w34927
* Good in that it backs up with data an effect that I always thought must logically be the case but almost no-one discussing immigration believes.
Bill Werbunik, famously, used to drink 6 pints of lager before a match and then a pint every frame.
Indeed, admitting you're wrong about is a relatively rare skill. I remember being seriously impressed when I first observed it aged 18. It went something like this:
Ian: the 1982 World Cup in Mexico...
[collective intake of breath]
Steve: Fool! the 1982 World Cup was in Spain!
Ian: Ah, yeah, you're not wrong
[general bafflement - because by nornal conversational rules, Ian should have to spend the next 2 days insisting it was in Mexico while Steve mocked him and hectored him, the issue only being resolved when Steve similarly misspoke and roles could be reversed. This was revelatory...]
This is another reason I don't like multi-country World Cups. In the old days, a group would play all its matches in two adjacent stadiums. Forcing fans to watch a match in Asuncion then another in Casablanca and a third in Porto is stupid.
A bit of biography of our late lamented airline passenger.
A heart of gold, indeed.
Peter.
Peter.
Like the greatest Scottish Sports star of all time, Jocky Wilson
But anyway and either way, bad idea.
Peter.
I like it..
Assuming it was achievable.
A blessing in disguise
The ring road is also a pain
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/25/reform-uk-plan-target-eu-nationals-britain-brexit
I think that you should find a new hobby
But you should never be banned until you mention GGs
To start with - how can @Woger send someone to Coventry? He wouldn’t know where that is.
This place would be so much better if only Conservatives could post.
She must be one for the UK's top political blog. I reckon she is under deep cover, but who?
Perhaps even an elaborate double bluff and she is you...
Is there a psychological condition that needs to be hated?
On Reddit, if someone starts complaining about such, everyone just downvotes them.
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2070180261170475447?s=20
The entrance/exits can be a bit hairy, mind.