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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    edited February 20
    Cookie said:

    It's an open goal, really. An opportunity for the Tories to portray themselves as the sane party of the right. Come on Kemi. Shouldn't be hard to put out a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky. One of those rare opportunities where the right thing to do is also the politically expedient thing to do.
    She did yesterday

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1892261710255308906?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet&mx=2
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,246

    I went off Daniel Craig.

    He effectively became the franchise, got inside Barbara's head, and then blew it up from the inside.
    So method acting, then ?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    Scott_xP said:

    Republican Senators are apparently afraid to vote against Trump in case a Jan 6th mob kills them

    If you are too scared to do the job then resign

    They won't really get a chance of impeachment until Jan 2027 anyway if the Democrats win both chambers of Congress in the midterms
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,834
    In a US poll only 45% think Zelenskyy isn’t a dictator . 22% said he was and a third weren’t sure .

    Only 61% blame Russia totally for the war .

    And people wonder how Trump won a second term . How can a third not be sure , the 22% are clearly morons/ Trump cult members .
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,835
    Andy_JS said:

    It's 5:55pm and it's almost dark. Isn't that amazing. Meanwhile, I'm drinking a tonic water in Wetherspoons. Cost 85 pence.

    We’re gaining almost four minutes of extra daylight every day, now. The bulbs are all coming up in anticipation of lots of spring sunlight.
  • Musk is calling for the ISS to be deorbited and the money spent on going to Mars.

    It's all about his projects, isn't it? And with his friend in charge of NASA...

    Hopefully a one-way trip for Musk?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,671
    Scott_xP said:

    Republican Senators are apparently afraid to vote against Trump in case a Jan 6th mob kills them

    If you are too scared to do the job then resign

    The answer of course lies in solidarity. If all sane members of congress act unitedly and at the same time the edifice collapses. My feeling is that it needs doing soon because I am on the pessimistic side about the speed of the move to an authoritarian state built on a citadel of lies and the threat of state violence. I don't think they have long.
  • Cookie said:

    It's an open goal, really. An opportunity for the Tories to portray themselves as the sane party of the right. Come on Kemi. Shouldn't be hard to put out a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky. One of those rare opportunities where the right thing to do is also the politically expedient thing to do.
    People who dislike Badenoch go out of their way to avoid noticing that she did what they already asked 24 hours previous. Her response was completely right.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,756
    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Mornington Crescent.

  • Cookie said:

    It's an open goal, really. An opportunity for the Tories to portray themselves as the sane party of the right. Come on Kemi. Shouldn't be hard to put out a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky. One of those rare opportunities where the right thing to do is also the politically expedient thing to do.
    Kemi did issue a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky and increased defence spending yesterday
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,835

    Kemi did issue a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky and increased defence spending yesterday
    I’m sure that reassured him greatly.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,834
    If the right wing press go after Farage then that would be good news for the Tories .

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    65% of Democrats have a favourable view of Zelensky but only 38% of Republicans do.

    8% of Democrats have a favourable view of Putin, 18% of Republicans do.

    50% of Americans want to maintain or increase aid to Ukraine, 30% to decrease it.

    However, 45% of Republican voters want to decrease it and only 34% to increase or maintain it

    https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/51651-donald-trump-government-plans-priorities-elon-musk-doge-russia-ukraine-war-february-16-18-2025-economist-yougov-poll
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,261

    I just went to the cinema to see "Captain America: Brave New World", and it was absolutely pants. I yawned once in the middle, and I rarely yawn in a film. Even the only post-credits scene was fairly pathetic, and not worth waiting for.

    If that's the best plot and writing $180 million can get, then Hollywood is screwed.
    I fell asleep during the first Lord of the Rings film.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173
    nico67 said:

    In a US poll only 45% think Zelenskyy isn’t a dictator . 22% said he was and a third weren’t sure .

    Only 61% blame Russia totally for the war .

    And people wonder how Trump won a second term . How can a third not be sure , the 22% are clearly morons/ Trump cult members .

    Enough people in this country are unaware of what's happening in the world around them, and we're a small island. America is vast and much of its population don't have passports. Some will be cultists but a lot will be purely ignorant.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686

    We don't have shared values if you try to organise a coup to overthrow the election result when you lose.
    Or calling a democratically elected head of state who has been attacked by an aggressor, a dictator, whilst simultaneously sucking up to a child stealing murderous despot.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,671

    Kemi did issue a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky and increased defence spending yesterday
    Domestic politics doesn't matter a lot, but the thing to notice is that no-one is noticing anything any Tory says. They have ceased for now to matter and they don't have heavy hitters on the front bench, and hardly any at all.

    Whereas what Farage says is pored over for entrail signs. Last week he was favourite in the betting to be next PM. He's at a critical moment.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,348

    And the rest of the political class is just letting him do it.

    GOP have just totally rolled over.

    History will record the names of everyone of these scoundrels and cowards who for fear of the primary in two or four years time signed off day after day on this coup.
    Someone made this point on the last thread

    Where are Bush, Clinton, Obama, McConnell, Romney, etc.? Pence spoke up about how this was wrong.

    If leaders won’t lead, then it’s harder to blame the foot soldiers.
  • IanB2 said:

    I’m sure that reassured him greatly.
    This is not the time to play petty party politics but reserve your criticism for the one who is a danger to Zelensky and our country, the dreadful Farage and Reform
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,834
    pigeon said:

    Enough people in this country are unaware of what's happening in the world around them, and we're a small island. America is vast and much of its population don't have passports. Some will be cultists but a lot will be purely ignorant.
    The Brits seem to be pretty clear in their views on Ukraine . You don’t get a third with a clueless response.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    MaxPB said:

    No, we should work with European countries. The EU will fail to act because the likes of Orban will block any moves that work against Putin. The EU is too divided we, or Ukraine, can't hang around for 27 nations to be bought off. We should work with France and Poland directly, as well as anyone else who agrees to our agenda upfront. Those that don't should have no say on what we can and can't do, including Germany, Hungary, Spain and others who object to tooling up and telling Putin to get fucked.
    Germany will likely become much more hardline anti Putin if Merz beats Scholz to become Chancellor after this weekend's Federal election
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292

    Good evening

    Yesterday so much changed after Trump’s anti Ukraine tirade, repeated in an hour long speech last night, that the mood of despair is palpable and many are not only worried but even scared, and there seems to be more techinness on this forum which in the circumstances is not really surprising

    Just heard the dreadful Farage interviewed live at a conference in the US and he was simply pathetic and then followed by a clip of the awful Truss speaking to the gathering

    It does seem that there is cross party support both on here and generally condemning Trump and siding with Zelensky and Ukraine, but also it is now time to call out Farage and Reform as the pro Trump-Putin party and also for the conservative party to cancel Truss's membership

    I have no idea where the money is coming from but increased defence spending now tops the agenda, and it is not optional anymore

    We are living in history changing times and for at least 4 years !!!!

    Could Kemi expelling Truss from the Conservative Party be her equivalent of Starmer removing Corbyn from the Labour Party?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,246
    edited February 20

    And the rest of the political class is just letting him do it.

    GOP have just totally rolled over.

    History will record the names of everyone of these scoundrels and cowards who for fear of the primary in two or four years time signed off day after day on this coup.
    History might not record any such thing, if the project gets its way.
  • HYUFD said:

    Could Kemi expelling Truss from the Conservative Party be her equivalent of Starmer removing Corbyn from the Labour Party?
    It would be the right thing to do
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    Andy_JS said:

    It's 5:55pm and it's almost dark. Isn't that amazing. Meanwhile, I'm drinking a tonic water in Wetherspoons. Cost 85 pence.

    Fuxsake etc.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    So can we expect a Bond franchise? Spinoffs starring Q and Moneypenny? Sequels and prequels in no particular order? On the plus side, maybe they will adapt Fleming's plots and not just the titles.
    Probably a “universe”. 005 with Idris Elba, 002 with Michaela Cole, 008 with Harry Styles and 0010with Bo Derek. Maybe a 00 School where the spies learn feels to entertain the young adult audience.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    FF43 said:

    Why the fuck did they vote for him the second time? (Shakes head)
    Cost of living, without checking the costs his tariffs would add
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212

    This is not the time to play petty party politics but reserve your criticism for the one who is a danger to Zelensky and our country, the dreadful Farage and Reform
    "Now is not the time for soundbites..."
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    Nigelb said:

    So method acting, then ?
    No, it became about Daniel Craig not James Bond.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,254

    And the rest of the political class is just letting him do it.

    GOP have just totally rolled over.

    History will record the names of everyone of these scoundrels and cowards who for fear of the primary in two or four years time signed off day after day on this coup.
    I'm pretty sure that "history" will simply dispense whatever today's truth is when you ask your computer. Finding facts in a sea of lies will prove to be an ever harder job.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    viewcode said:

    Worldview. MAGA and Trump genuinely believe that Europe in general, and UK in particular, underspend on armed forces, freeload on American protection, and imprison/fine people for free speech. They are entirely correct in this. They wish to alter our behaviour by the power of the purse, funding things they like and tariffing or even taxing those they don't like. The only question is what do we do about it.

    I went thru the three options yesterday (fight, run/hide, kneel). I hope that we will fight but fear we will kneel. And central to this submission will be Brits who have transferred their loyalty from the UK to things like CANZUK, the Anglosphere, the Republicans, or the endless tribes of Twitter. They will see nothing wrong with kneeling to the dictates of Trump and will simply blame those who it affects, provided it's not them. There are always capos.
    Given what Trump has said about Canada and the tariffs that will also hit Australia and NZ I don't think CANZUK and the Anglosphere can be included in that last paragraph
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,780
    boulay said:

    Probably a “universe”. 005 with Idris Elba, 002 with Michaela Cole, 008 with Harry Styles and 0010with Bo Derek. Maybe a 00 School where the spies learn feels to entertain the young adult audience.
    Then there can be a film where they all get together. It'll be called "The Revengers" :)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,841

    Vance on the need for shared values to underpin collective defence:

    https://x.com/behizytweets/status/1892603174428754059

    "You do not have shared values if you're jailing people for saying we should close down our border. You don't have shared values if you cancel elections because you don't like the result. And that happened in Romania. You do not have shared values if you're so afraid of your own people that you silence them and shut them up."

    Hang on: surely Romania was just following Trump's 2020 lead? He should see that as evidence of shared values rather than the opposite.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686
    I wonder what Trump's reaction would be if Israel came across evidence that Russia had encouraged Hamas to attack Israel on Oct 7th? It certainly resulted in a benefit to Putin, so seems very likely through one of his proxies.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    rcs1000 said:

    To be fair, the Pope lives in Europe, so you can understand Vance's feelings.
    Vance is Roman Catholic, albeit more of the Benedict than Francis kind
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686
    rcs1000 said:

    It's time for the UK and Europe to stand on their own two feet.

    The only thing Trump respects is strength. And we need to get strong, fast.

    We, and other European countries, should never have allowed ourselves to become so dependent on a foreign power.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,780
    HYUFD said:

    Given what Trump has said about Canada and the tariffs that will also hit Australia and NZ I don't think CANZUK and the Anglosphere can be included in that last paragraph
    I hope you're right
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,841
    HYUFD said:

    Vance is Roman Catholic, albeit more of the Benedict than Francis kind
    I get the feeling Vance and St Francis of Assisi probably wouldn't have a lot of shared values.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    boulay said:

    Probably a “universe”. 005 with Idris Elba, 002 with Michaela Cole, 008 with Harry Styles and 0010with Bo Derek. Maybe a 00 School where the spies learn feels to entertain the young adult audience.
    Oh God. Kill me now.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,078
    JD Vance is making Dan Quayle look like an intellectual colossus.

    Usha Vance - oh dear!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212

    No, it became about Daniel Craig not James Bond.
    Agree. It got very, very shit. Did they not even allow him to write some of it?

    Never mind, we still have the Bulldog Drummond franchise.

    *we probably don't

    Bond affcianados will enjoy this treat: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY7CR2TSO8&pp=ygUnQnVsbGRvZyBkcnVtbW9uZCBkZWFkbGllciB0aGFuIHRoZSBtYWxl
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,756
    Cookie said:

    I don't 100% agree.
    Starmer has been an awful PM for the first six months, but fair dos, he's not really put a foot wrong wrt Trump and Ukraine. But I would argue that Rishi, and in particular Boris, also got it consiatently right on Ukraine,and Boris has been unequivocal recently that Trump is completely wrong on this.
    So full marks for Starmer, but we can't by implication criticise his predecessors.
    This was Boris on Valentine's Day, after the Munich Security Conference:

    Trump is not betraying Ukraine. But it is time for Europeans to stop panicking, stop whingeing - and step up: BORIS JOHNSON

    Zut alors! Gott im Himmel! To listen to the wailing here at the Munich Security Conference you would think that Donald Trump has pulled out of Nato and cravenly capitulated to the Kremlin.

    You get the impression that the valiant Volodymyr Zelensky has been sold down the Dnieper, that Ukraine is done for and that a new darkness covers the face of Europe.


    You need to read it to judge. It's too scattergun to summarise:

    https://archive.is/20250214235136/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14398311/Trump-not-betraying-Ukraine-hes-right-Europe-needs-step-turn-country-Putin-bite-BORIS-JOHNSON.html
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,212

    We, and other European countries, should never have allowed ourselves to become so dependent on a foreign power.
    The transatlantic relationship has served us very well (and served the US well too, despite what the current administration thinks). There are strong historical reasons why Europe has behaved like it has over the past 2-3 decades. Yes there has been some complacency in that, but it’s very difficult to move away from a geopolitical system when it’s working.

    I put less blame at the feet of European governments for what has happened in the past than the blame I will put on them if they do not rise to the challenge now. We know we need to do it. So we need to get on with it.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    edited February 20

    When you hear Trump or Vance talk about Europe, the dislike just isn’t rational. It’s bizarre.
    Trump and Vance love bits of Europe ie bits led by rightwing white nationalists like Putin and Orban, it is just the woke liberal majority of it they hate.

    Trump also loves Eastern European women, his first wife was Czech and his current wife is Slovenian (though Vance has an ethnic Indian wife)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    rcs1000 said:

    It's time for the UK and Europe to stand on their own two feet.

    The only thing Trump respects is strength. And we need to get strong, fast.

    I'm feeling it ...

    For Queen and Continent

    No Time for Weakness

    Strength to Kill

    Tomorrow is Never Yesterday
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212
    HYUFD said:

    Trump and Vance love bits of Europe ie bits led by rightwing white nationalists like Putin and Orban, it is just the woke liberal majority of it they hate.

    Trump also loves Eastern European women, his first wife was Czech and his current wife is Slovenian (though Vance has an ethnic Indian wife)
    Ivana Trump was not Trump's first wife. I believe she was called Marla Maples or something.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    edited February 20
    murali_s said:

    JD Vance is making Dan Quayle look like an intellectual colossus.

    Usha Vance - oh dear!

    Vance is far more intelligent and intellectual than Quayle (and indeed Trump too for that matter), he is just a conservative nationalist and protectionist
  • HYUFD said:

    Vance is Roman Catholic, albeit more of the Benedict than Francis kind
    Is his wife Roman Catholic?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,208
    edited February 20
    Daniel Craig is responsible for the greatest moment in Bond history.

    At the cinema I needed oxygen during this scene.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1pqswXNAgs
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,348
    Cookie said:

    It's an open goal, really. An opportunity for the Tories to portray themselves as the sane party of the right. Come on Kemi. Shouldn't be hard to put out a statement of unequivocal support for Zelensky. One of those rare opportunities where the right thing to do is also the politically expedient
    thing to do.
    She did yesterday
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    Oh God. Kill me now.
    Luckily I’m licenced to do so.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100

    I'm feeling it ...

    For Queen and Continent

    No Time for Weakness

    Strength to Kill

    Tomorrow is Never Yesterday
    King. Cough.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686

    The transatlantic relationship has served us very well (and served the US well too, despite what the current administration thinks). There are strong historical reasons why Europe has behaved like it has over the past 2-3 decades. Yes there has been some complacency in that, but it’s very difficult to move away from a geopolitical system when it’s working.

    I put less blame at the feet of European governments for what has happened in the past than the blame I will put on them if they do not rise to the challenge now. We know we need to do it. So we need to get on with it.
    I think what we are seeing is the early days of the decline of the US Empire, though hopefully not it's implosion. The question remains is can a consortium of democracies fill the vacuum, or are we entering an age of true Oligarchies?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,563
    GIN1138 said:

    Well that put's a whole new slant on adding "milk" to your cornflakes! :D
    Snap, crackle and pop.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    viewcode said:

    I hope you're right
    Canadians have even been booing the US anthem at ice hockey games and the players fighting each other

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3om9fYME4Y
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047

    Agree. It got very, very shit. Did they not even allow him to write some of it?

    Never mind, we still have the Bulldog Drummond franchise.

    *we probably don't

    Bond affcianados will enjoy this treat: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY7CR2TSO8&pp=ygUnQnVsbGRvZyBkcnVtbW9uZCBkZWFkbGllciB0aGFuIHRoZSBtYWxl
    I think Barbara Broccoli essentially gave up after Casino Royale, which was a masterpiece.

    QoS was ok but confused. Skyfall was just as much of a concluding film as No Time to Die, and a better one. And then they just dragged and eeked it out whilst trying to work out what to do given all the original material had run out.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    Jonathan said:

    King. Cough.
    Camilla has a starring role in my proposal.
  • Ivana Trump was not Trump's first wife. I believe she was called Marla Maples or something.
    Marla was second, surely.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    Ivana Trump was not Trump's first wife. I believe she was called Marla Maples or something.
    Ivana was first, then Marla then Melania. Ivana and Melania are proof to Donald that America needs immigrants to do the dirty jobs few Americans are willing to do.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,821
    HYUFD said:

    Vance is far more intelligent and intellectual than Quayle (and indeed Trump too for that matter), he is just a conservative nationalist and protectionist
    "Like most intellectuals he's very stupid."
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,005

    ...

    Is it some new thing that elected politicians aren't supposed to fire public servants?
    It rarely happens here, it would be better if it happened less in the US.
  • I'm feeling it ...

    For Queen and Continent

    No Time for Weakness

    Strength to Kill

    Tomorrow is Never Yesterday
    Tomorrow is Not Enough

    The World Never Dies
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,254
    Truss ought to expelled from the Conservatives.

    She’s wrong about almost everything, and wrong outside of normal parameters.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,348
    boulay said:

    Probably a “universe”. 005 with Idris Elba, 002 with Michaela Cole, 008 with Harry Styles and 0010with Bo Derek. Maybe a 00 School where the spies learn feels to entertain the young adult audience.
    Like red sparrow without the naughty bits?

  • Daniel Craig is responsible for the greatest moment in Bond history.

    At the cinema I needed oxygen during this scene.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1pqswXNAgs

    For a few years my text alert was Daniel Craig saying

    "Now the whole world's gonna know that you died scratching my balls."
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,546
    edited February 20

    I'm feeling it ...

    For Queen and Continent

    No Time for Weakness

    Strength to Kill

    Tomorrow is Never Yesterday
    Are we still on AI-generated Bond film titles?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    Sean_F said:

    Truss ought to expelled from the Conservatives.

    She’s wrong about almost everything, and wrong outside of normal parameters.

    Problem is, Farage would probably try and send her back!
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  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,714
    It's true that Kemi has come out in support of Zelensky. But only a couple of days ago she made that bizarre speech (at ARC) which was full of praise for Trump and his 'action-packed' start to his presidency, and highly admiring of Musk's work at DoGE, along with various anti-woke memes. Chicken nuggets, ffs?

    I think she's genuinely struggling to decide whether the righteous path is the Truss/Farage one, or whether there's another way, yet to be discovered.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,336

    Tomorrow is Not Enough

    The World Never Dies
    Trump is a traitor?...
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686
    boulay said:

    Ivana was first, then Marla then Melania. Ivana and Melania are proof to Donald that America needs immigrants to do the dirty jobs few Americans are willing to do.
    One has to feel a little sorry for them. It makes me think of a story that was relayed to me by a lady who was friends with a well to do woman who had a brief fling with Fatty Soames. She said him making love to her was like having a wardrobe fall on top of you with the key sticking out!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    edited February 20

    Ivana Trump was not Trump's first wife. I believe she was called Marla Maples or something.
    No, Marla was his second, his only US born wife

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Donald_Trump#:~:text=Ivana Trump,-Main article: Ivana&text=Ivana Marie Trump (née Zelníčková,naturalized U.S. citizen in 1988.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212
    edited February 20
    Sean_F said:

    Truss ought to expelled from the Conservatives.

    She’s wrong about almost everything, and wrong outside of normal parameters.

    What is she wrong about? Feel free to provide recent examples.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,336
    I'm sick and tired of watching Trump and his MAGA clones pontificating on Sky News. The less I see if rolling news coverage over the next few weeks the better I think
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,671
    HYUFD said:

    Vance is Roman Catholic, albeit more of the Benedict than Francis kind
    By Benedict meaning Ratzinger or the real St Benedict, Patron Saint of Europe? Of whom Alisdair MacIntyre says;

    And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time however the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time. And it is our lack of consciousness of this that constitutes part of our predicament. We are waiting not for a Godot, but for another—doubtless very different—St. Benedict.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047

    Tomorrow is Not Enough

    The World Never Dies
    For Your Values Only

    The Man With The Crazed Twitter Account

    You Only Get Elected Twice

    Thunderbollocks
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292

    Is his wife Roman Catholic?
    No, Hindu, they had an interfaith wedding
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    maxh said:

    Are we still on AI-generated Bond film titles?
    It was a test. The last one is a Steve Martin spoof.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,780
    edited February 20

    Agree. It got very, very shit. Did they not even allow him to write some of it?

    Never mind, we still have the Bulldog Drummond franchise.

    *we probably don't

    Bond affcianados will enjoy this treat: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY7CR2TSO8&pp=ygUnQnVsbGRvZyBkcnVtbW9uZCBkZWFkbGllciB0aGFuIHRoZSBtYWxl
    Lord above, that was a bit strange. It was an X certificate in 1967, but it's less offensive than an Austin Powers now. Anyhoo:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViY7CR2TSO8
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlier_Than_the_Male

    This is the sequel. It has fembots.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Girls_Do
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd11zdSKu6A
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047
    From Russia With NLAWs
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,001

    For Your Values Only

    The Man With The Crazed Twitter Account

    You Only Get Elected Twice

    Thunderbollocks
    As Ever
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,212

    It's true that Kemi has come out in support of Zelensky. But only a couple of days ago she made that bizarre speech (at ARC) which was full of praise for Trump and his 'action-packed' start to his presidency, and highly admiring of Musk's work at DoGE, along with various anti-woke memes. Chicken nuggets, ffs?

    I think she's genuinely struggling to decide whether the righteous path is the Truss/Farage one, or whether there's another way, yet to be discovered.

    I think the Tories are going to get themselves a bit of an escape route from that decision by likely having to back the government up on matters of national security over the coming months and years. That will in and of itself create a distinction with what Reform are likely to do.

    Whether Badenoch is the right person to take them on that journey, hmmm.

  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686
    HYUFD said:

    Problem is, Farage would probably try and send her back!
    I think the Tories should persuade Johnson to join Reform. Let's face it, though he won one election against Mr Thicky, he managed to absolutely fuck up the Tory Party for a generation. When he has inadvertently destroyed Reform, his Tory handlers could then instruct him to join the Labour Party, and replace Rachel Reeves as a more honest option.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292
    edited February 20
    algarkirk said:

    By Benedict meaning Ratzinger or the real St Benedict, Patron Saint of Europe? Of whom Alisdair MacIntyre says;

    And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time however the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time. And it is our lack of consciousness of this that constitutes part of our predicament. We are waiting not for a Godot, but for another—doubtless very different—St. Benedict.
    Ratzinger
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11629857

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

    https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pope-warns-catholic-politicians-who-back-abortion-idUSL09563188/
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212

    I think Barbara Broccoli essentially gave up after Casino Royale, which was a masterpiece.

    QoS was ok but confused. Skyfall was just as much of a concluding film as No Time to Die, and a better one. And then they just dragged and eeked it out whilst trying to work out what to do given all the original material had run out.
    The one with the warmed over Blofeld who turned out to be Bond's brother was all sorts of awful. I shouldn't have even gone to see Just Die Already.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,348

    One has to feel a little sorry for them. It makes me think of a story that was relayed to me by a lady who was friends with a well
    to do woman who had a brief fling with Fatty Soames. She said him making love to her was like having a wardrobe fall on top of you with the key sticking out!
    A reported in the independent over 25 years ago…

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/in-the-news-nicholas-soames-happy-eater-with-little-appetite-for-humility-or-political-correctness-1154036.html
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,292

    I think the Tories should persuade Johnson to join Reform. Let's face it, though he won one election against Mr Thicky, he managed to absolutely fuck up the Tory Party for a generation. When he has inadvertently destroyed Reform, his Tory handlers could then instruct him to join the Labour Party, and replace Rachel Reeves as a more honest option.
    Reform won't have him because he was too liberal on immigration
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,756

    The report from Marianne Faithfull's funeral, in a small church at Aldworth, near Goring and Streetly.

    Very tightly policed by stewards - no paps got the location.

    Mostly close freinds and family. The big sleb send-off will be later in the year. Bob Geldorf and Nick Cave were there.

    The Wifey got a lift to the wake sat on Courtney Love's lap....

    Glad it went well.

    Good job I wasn't there - wouldn't have recognised anyone !
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,047

    I think the Tories should persuade Johnson to join Reform. Let's face it, though he won one election against Mr Thicky, he managed to absolutely fuck up the Tory Party for a generation. When he has inadvertently destroyed Reform, his Tory handlers could then instruct him to join the Labour Party, and replace Rachel Reeves as a more honest option.
    Is this your suggested plot of the next James Bond film?
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686
    HYUFD said:

    Reform won't have him because he was too liberal on immigration
    Probably that, but more likely that even for them he is too much of a ludicrous twat.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,686

    Is this your suggested plot of the next James Bond film?
    Lol. Yes indeed, with Bozo in the main role. Nadine could be his Bond girl.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,756
    edited February 20

    Vance on the need for shared values to underpin collective defence:

    https://x.com/behizytweets/status/1892603174428754059

    "You do not have shared values if you're jailing people for saying we should close down our border. You don't have shared values if you cancel elections because you don't like the result. And that happened in Romania. You do not have shared values if you're so afraid of your own people that you silence them and shut them up."

    A perfect illustration.

    This is exactly the same problem as Vance had in Munich declaring that we were arresting people for silent prayer or banning prayer in private homes (the ones I fact-checked about the UK), and the other things.

    We aren't and he's lying to himself - just like Trump when he claims the USA put in 6x as much support into Ukraine as Europe.

    They are a pair of fantaloons, treating stuff they have made up or falsehoods they have swallowed as fact and acting on that basis.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,924
    My favourite Bond moment is the fun house in The Man With The Golden Gun.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,546

    It's true that Kemi has come out in support of Zelensky. But only a couple of days ago she made that bizarre speech (at ARC) which was full of praise for Trump and his 'action-packed' start to his presidency, and highly admiring of Musk's work at DoGE, along with various anti-woke memes. Chicken nuggets, ffs?

    I think she's genuinely struggling to decide whether the righteous path is the Truss/Farage one, or whether there's another way, yet to be discovered.

    Whilst I would obviously prefer not to have a fascist- and dictator-enabling narcissist in the White House, I do think one potential benefit is to concentrate minds in the UK.

    If Badenoch is prepared to lift her gaze from the dull and inconsequential crap she has tried to focus on thus far and to join Starmer in unequivocal support for Zelenskyy and not playing politics on defence spending, that's to be applauded.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,212

    Lol. Yes indeed, with Bozo in the main role. Nadine could be his Bond girl.
    Double Oh Cripes and Miss MummyPenny.

    The on screen chemistry in the flirting scenes would be off the charts.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,336
    MattW said:

    A perfect illustration.

    This is exactly the same problem as Vance had in Munich declaring that we were arresting people for silent prayer or banning prayer in private homes (the ones I fact-checked about the UK), and the other things.

    We aren't and he's lying to himself - just like Trump when he claims the USA put in 6x as much support into Ukraine as Europe.

    They are a pair of fantaloons, treating stuff they have made up or falsehoods they have swallowed as fact and acting on that basis.
    Not surprising really. Vance is Trump's attack dog whose been allowed on the sofa...
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