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Why Farage might be next out – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,320
edited February 20 in General
Why Farage might be next out – politicalbetting.com

Previously in this market I thought given the structure of Reform it was unlikely that Farage could be ousted but now the party is like the traditional parties it is rather more possible following today’s announcement.

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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    John Swinney.

    Not only is he much of an age with Farage, but there’s an obvious replacement who is clearly eyeing up the spot in his back to plunge her knife.
  • I did think about using that photo for this header.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,587
    The majority of Reform voters blame Russia entirely for the conflict. If Farage is ousted it won't be over him distancing himself from Trump but over being seen as too soft on immigration.

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2025/02/19/285d6/1
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,135
    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623

    I did think about using that photo for this header.

    So we dodged a bullet there?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,449
    It will be an interesting journey for Reform to see what sort of a party it will become.

    The mass membership will now be important in how and whether they distance themselves from Trump and/or Putin - we know what their supporters think, not necessarily their members.

    And leadership rules and constitution will be important in determination whether it acts more like Labour or more like the Tories in terms of regicidal tendencies.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,237
    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    Thinking of Farage, party leaders cast in The Wind in the Willows:

    Badenoch - Badger. Rather gruff, set in the ways, enjoys a fight.
    Starmer - Rat - bit of a lightweight, well meaning but not a thinker
    Davey - Mole - important but somehow not quite at the centre of events
    Farage - well, that leaves Mr Toad.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,802

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    I assume such resolution was designed to provoke this reaction as I don’t understand what the point is otherwise.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    Cheney under Bush Jr.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,868
    edited February 20
    Nigel's in a pickle. He's fallen out of favour with Reform MAGA because Musk turned on him; now he's falling out of favour with Reform non-MAGA because of Ukraine. The old Nige magic will probably save him, but it's feeling a lot more fragile than it ever did.
  • Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,683

    Nigel's in a pickle. He's fallen out of favour with Reform MAGA because Musk turned on him; now he's falling out of favour with Reform non-MAGA because of Ukraine. The old Nige magic will probably save him, but it's feeling a lot more fragile than it ever did.

    A weekend of frantic rimming will sort out the former.
    Honestly. Why doesn't he emigrate?
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,868
    ydoethur said:

    Thinking of Farage, party leaders cast in The Wind in the Willows:

    Badenoch - Badger. Rather gruff, set in the ways, enjoys a fight.
    Starmer - Rat - bit of a lightweight, well meaning but not a thinker
    Davey - Mole - important but somehow not quite at the centre of events
    Farage - well, that leaves Mr Toad.

    Some blokes for Gateshead got there before you.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/24/ukip-nigel-farage-toad-hall_n_5205277.html
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.
    I am an extraordinary human being: intelligent, charming and drop dead gorgeous.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.
    I am an extraordinary human being: intelligent, charming and drop dead gorgeous.
    And if anyone says otherwise, the banhammer is that way.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    edited February 20
    Kemi has a mandate from Tory MPs and members and doesn't have a rival angling for her job like Rayner and Streeting are for Starmer's and Tice and Lowe are for Farage's, except for Jenrick who already lost the Tory MPs vote and lost the Tory members vote to Kemi. She could yet outlast Starmer and Farage
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    rcs1000 said:

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.
    I am an extraordinary human being: intelligent, charming and drop dead gorgeous.
    Unlike J-Lo?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,683
    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Perhaps he’s had his Weetabix?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,135
    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Apparently the US wants Zelensky to “tone down” his criticism.

    We are through the looking glass now. This is absolutely absurd.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    edited February 20
    ydoethur said:

    John Swinney.

    Not only is he much of an age with Farage, but there’s an obvious replacement who is clearly eyeing up the spot in his back to plunge her knife.

    Swinney should be secure after shoring up the SNP back in first place in Scotland even if he loses some MSPs next year
  • dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Good to see that Crunchy Nut is getting a Frosties reception over there.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,942
    edited February 20
    Given his history, surely Farage is more likely to walk away than be ousted. It's what he's always done. I imagine there's a very good chance he'll do it again.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,528
    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    Not really, if you believe the film Vice, concerning Dick Cheney. He was certainly driving a lot of US policy during the Bush years.

    The difference with Vance is that he is articulate. I agree with very little that he says but his clarity in his recent speeches has made him the coherent voice of the Trump cavalcade who can at least provide a gloss or a rationale (of sorts) to what is going on.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,613
    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    No, Cheney and LBJ and HW Bush were all pretty influential, especially in foreign policy
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,650
    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    I assume Kellogg doesn't want to say anything that Trump will shit all over later today
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,528
    HYUFD said:

    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    No, Cheney and LBJ and HW Bush were all pretty influential, especially in foreign policy
    Don't think that LBJ was particularly influential. The Kennedys treated him pretty badly and he responded in kind to Bobby after JFK was killed.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,587
    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    No, Cheney and LBJ and HW Bush were all pretty influential, especially in foreign policy
    Don't think that LBJ was particularly influential. The Kennedys treated him pretty badly and he responded in kind to Bobby after JFK was killed.
    Talking of which, when are these files due to be released?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,650
    edited February 20
    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    HYUFD said:

    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    No, Cheney and LBJ and HW Bush were all pretty influential, especially in foreign policy
    Cheney has been proved right and in spades. He warned before the election that Trump was the gravest threat to the republic in its 250 year history and here we are.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    "Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is considering firing generals and top military officers as soon as this week, according to two Defense officials and three Congressional sources. Most of those targeted are associated with former Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin."

    NBC
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,106
    ydoethur said:

    Thinking of Farage, party leaders cast in The Wind in the Willows:

    Badenoch - Badger. Rather gruff, set in the ways, enjoys a fight.
    Starmer - Rat - bit of a lightweight, well meaning but not a thinker
    Davey - Mole - important but somehow not quite at the centre of events
    Farage - well, that leaves Mr Toad.

    Trump as chief weasel?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,949
    Current political leaders as Star Wars characters

    Jabba the Hutt. - Boris Johnson obviously
    Jar Jar Binks - Liz Truss
    C3PO - Jeremy Hunt
    Nigel Farage - Sarlac Pit
    Kemi Badenoch- General Hux
    Keir Starmer - Bail Organa
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,106
    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Nominative determinism. He's flaky.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    Selebian said:

    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Nominative determinism. He's flaky.
    Corny, even
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,135
    edited February 20
    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,949
    Rishi is R2D2
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    edited February 20
    Gorgeous rainbow in the sea off Alnmouth just now- sadly going too fast to attempt a photo.
  • DavidL said:

    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    Not really, if you believe the film Vice, concerning Dick Cheney. He was certainly driving a lot of US policy during the Bush years.

    The difference with Vance is that he is articulate. I agree with very little that he says but his clarity in his recent speeches has made him the coherent voice of the Trump cavalcade who can at least provide a gloss or a rationale (of sorts) to what is going on.

    I don't get the impression Vance is driving policy. He is seeking to justify it. He does not have any actual power in the way that Cheney did.

  • eekeek Posts: 29,138

    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.

    That was in the telegraph yesterday - and I really don’t see the problem
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.


    The Trump administration is now bringing the post–World War II era to an end. No one should be surprised: This was predictable, and indeed was predicted.

    Anne Applebaum
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,226

    Nigel's in a pickle. He's fallen out of favour with Reform MAGA because Musk turned on him; now he's falling out of favour with Reform non-MAGA because of Ukraine. The old Nige magic will probably save him, but it's feeling a lot more fragile than it ever did.

    Let's hope he doesn't upset Mr Putin.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43IM3vsXOts
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,528

    DavidL said:

    carnforth said:

    Is this the first time a US vice president has been relevant and in the thick of things, rather than just a placeholder?

    Not really, if you believe the film Vice, concerning Dick Cheney. He was certainly driving a lot of US policy during the Bush years.

    The difference with Vance is that he is articulate. I agree with very little that he says but his clarity in his recent speeches has made him the coherent voice of the Trump cavalcade who can at least provide a gloss or a rationale (of sorts) to what is going on.

    I don't get the impression Vance is driving policy. He is seeking to justify it. He does not have any actual power in the way that Cheney did.

    I am honestly not sure. Trump is utterly chaotic and he is surrounded by imbeciles who have no idea which way is up. Anyone who sounds like they know what they are doing can have a lot of influence in that scenario.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,237
    eek said:

    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.

    That was in the telegraph yesterday - and I really don’t see the problem
    How does it help? The risk-averse can still buy a money market fund. But it hurts those who don't want or aren't able to understand anything other than a very simple product, and pushes them back to taxed savings accounts.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169

    "Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is considering firing generals and top military officers as soon as this week, according to two Defense officials and three Congressional sources. Most of those targeted are associated with former Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin."

    NBC

    Presumably people who might oppose going to war with Canada, or Denmark and Greenland, Ukraine, and the wider Europe.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,173
    In the US, "The Blob" is sometimes used to refer to the combination of the teacher's unions, education schools, and so forth, that block education reform. Those who use the term that way often favor charter schools, in an effort to get around The Blob:
    https://edreform.com/news-and-analysis/analysis/unions-and-establishment/what-it-is/

    (For the record: I have a mild liking for the original movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob Let me repeat, mild. )
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,226
    Thanks for the header.

    Do we have any US polling broken down by party and faction (ie MAGA, not MAGA for the GOP) on any questions around attitude to Putin / Zelensky, who started the war etc?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,793

    I did think about using that photo for this header.

    The one where you can almost see Farage's Rupert Lowes?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,650
    Jonathan said:

    Rishi is R2D2

    He wishes...

    BB-8, at best
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,793

    In the US, "The Blob" is sometimes used to refer to the combination of the teacher's unions, education schools, and so forth, that block education reform. Those who use the term that way often favor charter schools, in an effort to get around The Blob:
    https://edreform.com/news-and-analysis/analysis/unions-and-establishment/what-it-is/

    (For the record: I have a mild liking for the original movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob Let me repeat, mild. )

    Another reason that Truss shouldn't have adopted the 'deep state' nomenclature.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941
    boulay said:

    Can you imagine the world of stress Zelensky is under?

    People get all excitable about PepGuardiola scratching his head because Man City are losing matches - but Jesus Christ you can imagine Zelensky just sitting there stunned thinking “I’ve got a war to fight to save my country against a murderous psychotic bastard and Do and Trump and his team are treating me like a criminal and at the same time trying to steal my country’s wealth”.

    What a man.

    Just think of when you’ve been stressed them more shot cones. And multiply it by millions.

    “Fuck it. Assemble the first ten nuclear weapons.”
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,173
    Demographics numbers: The US passed 340 million last year; the European Union is "around 449 million": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union

    (500 million is a reasonable approximation, militarily, if you subtract Hungary and Slovakia, and add the UK.)
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,160

    dixiedean said:

    Kellogg cancels press conference in Kyiv.
    Trumpers don't like being questioned.
    I assume Zelenskyy has told him where to shove his agreement?

    Good to see that Crunchy Nut is getting a Frosties reception over there.
    There's nothing Special K about him...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,066
    Vance is like Hans Frank or Roland Friesler. He’s there to justify the regime’s crimes.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,237
    edited February 20


    (For the record: I have a mild liking for the original movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob Let me repeat, mild. )

    The Blob is a good film and comes with an oddly catchy theme tune.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,802
    DavidL said:

    In other news my eldest daughter has just gone into labour. Being her, she is timing her contractions on an app and has a play list. Changed days.

    Mazel tov
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.


    The Trump administration is now bringing the post–World War II era to an end. No one should be surprised: This was predictable, and indeed was predicted.

    Anne Applebaum
    True dat. Zeihan has an "After America" series. It's not reassuring... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6zWQZTGKO4bP8E5xvDfMeypevT6WxXgv
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,108

    DavidL said:

    In other news my eldest daughter has just gone into labour. Being her, she is timing her contractions on an app and has a play list. Changed days.

    Mazel tov
    Good wishes to her, and the little one.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,135
    eek said:

    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.

    That was in the telegraph yesterday - and I really don’t see the problem
    It’s funny, wasn’t this the whole point of the British ISA that Reeves scrapped as soon as she took office, to stimulate investment?

    In general I don’t have an issue with encouraging investment. The issue is that a lot of people aren’t particularly clued up about investing, or building a diversified portfolio, so maybe they just won’t bother or will expose their savings to too much short term risk/speculation. And then the banks won’t be able to encourage mortgage lending. So it all becomes a bit counterproductive.

    I’m fairly agnostic, I just ponder whether there’s a law of unintended consequences that will come into play.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.


    The Trump administration is now bringing the post–World War II era to an end. No one should be surprised: This was predictable, and indeed was predicted.

    Anne Applebaum
    https://archive.is/IfLWz
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,160
    Sean_F said:

    Vance is like Hans Frank or Roland Friesler. He’s there to justify the regime’s crimes.

    Like Goebbels?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,138

    eek said:

    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.

    That was in the telegraph yesterday - and I really don’t see the problem
    It’s funny, wasn’t this the whole point of the British ISA that Reeves scrapped as soon as she took office, to stimulate investment?

    In general I don’t have an issue with encouraging investment. The issue is that a lot of people aren’t particularly clued up about investing, or building a diversified portfolio, so maybe they just won’t bother or will expose their savings to too much short term risk/speculation. And then the banks won’t be able to encourage mortgage lending. So it all becomes a bit counterproductive.

    I’m fairly agnostic, I just ponder whether there’s a law of unintended consequences that will come into play.
    I can see a reason for restricting the tax benefits of risk adverse savings.

    The problem with the British ISA is that I wouldn’t trust it - I want control of my investments
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,604
    eek said:

    Guardian reporting Reeves looking at cutting cash ISA limit to £4000 per year. Looks like the rest of the ISA limit open to stocks and shares.

    That was in the telegraph yesterday - and I really don’t see the problem
    Neither do I. It is not getting rid of the tax perk and it won;t harm the vast majority of people who use an ISA every tax year.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    edited February 20
    glw said:

    "Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is considering firing generals and top military officers as soon as this week, according to two Defense officials and three Congressional sources. Most of those targeted are associated with former Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin."

    NBC

    Presumably people who might oppose going to war with Canada, or Denmark and Greenland, Ukraine, and the wider Europe.
    Yep. Certainly those suspected of harbouring concerns about a volte face so that USA are now aligned with Putin and embarking on world conquest.

    Which is to same all of them bar a few whacko platoon level infantry who will suddenly find themselves as 4 star generals.

    Many indeed most of us on PB have been predicting that Trump 2.0 would be an utter catastrophe. The few others should now apologize.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,571
    Scott_xP said:

    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...

    Star Wars - fucked

    Bond - fucked

    Dr Who - apparently put in deep freeze for a decade....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    73 million Americans voted for this madness.


  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,949

    Scott_xP said:

    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...

    Star Wars - fucked

    Bond - fucked

    Dr Who - apparently put in deep freeze for a decade....
    Time to revive Carry On.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436

    73 million Americans voted for this madness.


    Oh do calm the fuck down. He hasn’t done anything yet
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 12,733
    edited February 20
    MattW said:

    Thanks for the header.

    Do we have any US polling broken down by party and faction (ie MAGA, not MAGA for the GOP) on any questions around attitude to Putin / Zelensky, who started the war etc?

    Yes, we have detailed polling from Pew from a few days ago, although possibly now out of date given the latest developments! https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/14/americans-views-of-the-war-in-ukraine-continue-to-differ-by-party/


  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,571
    viewcode said:

    Reuters now reporting US is refusing to co-sponsor UNSC resolution affirming Ukraines territorial integrity and condemning Russian aggression.

    This is starting to feel quite serious.

    Starting?

    Many of us warned the stance would take before he was elected.

    Trump told us the stance he would take before he was elected.

    When people tell you who they are, believe them.


    The Trump administration is now bringing the post–World War II era to an end. No one should be surprised: This was predictable, and indeed was predicted.

    Anne Applebaum
    https://archive.is/IfLWz
    Are we in the pre-World War 3 era then?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,474
    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    You appear to be inside a shipping contained looking out into a warzone.

    For no reason whatsoever except that it is the first place which came to mind when I saw the image, I'm going to go for: Turksih occupied North Cyprus.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    Scott_xP said:

    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...

    Oh bugger. Yes they have. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1mn9gz5x3mo

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Camden?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 12,733

    Scott_xP said:

    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...

    Star Wars - fucked

    Bond - fucked

    Dr Who - apparently put in deep freeze for a decade....
    The Dr Who reports have been denied.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,793
    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    I know there's a lot of really terrible stuff happening in the World right now but Eon productions have just ceded artistic control of the Bond franchise to the same people that brought us Rings of Power...

    Oh bugger. Yes they have. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1mn9gz5x3mo

    :( That's sad news.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Camden?
    Proper lol! But no
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    There's just no good news anywhere at the moment.

    In further news (well, not really, we all know it) OFGEM are useless twits exhibit 746b:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vwxyq33k0o
  • I did think about using that photo for this header.

    [Chewbacca and RCS-D2 are playing space chess, Han Sunil and TSE-PO are looking on]

    Chewbacca: "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh!"

    TSE-PO: "He made a fair move. Screaming about it can't help you!"

    Han Sunil: "Let him have it. It's not wise to upset a Wookiee."

    TSE-PO: "But, sir! Nobody worries about upsetting a Lawyer-Droid!"

    Han Sunil: "That's because Lawyer-Droids aren't known for pulling people's arms out of their sockets when they lose!"

    TSE-PO: "I see your point, sir!"
    [to RCS-D2] "I suggest a new strategy, RCS: let the Wookiee win!"
  • Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Gaza?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    You appear to be inside a shipping contained looking out into a warzone.

    For no reason whatsoever except that it is the first place which came to mind when I saw the image, I'm going to go for: Turksih occupied North Cyprus.
    Interesting guess

    But wrong (this is quite hard, but also genuinely interesting as an answer)

    Clue: you can get excellent bacon here
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,173
    The Loser's honeymoon is over: "Trump’s approval ratings this week in a series of polls — including the Post-Ipsos poll and others from Reuters, Quinnipiac University, CNN and Gallup — has ranged from 44 to 47 percent. In all of them, more disapprove than approve of him.

    That’s a reversal from the vast majority of previous polls, which showed Trump in net-positive territory.

    And in the Post-Ipsos poll, significantly more Americans strongly disapprove of Trump (39 percent) than strongly approve of him (27 percent)."

    source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/20/trump-policies-opposed-by-americans/

    (It wasn't much of a honeymoon to begin with. His approval ratings were higher than in his first term -- but lower than the approval ratings for every other recent president.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,623
    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Puff's Alley, Newent, after a particularly energetic happy hour at The George?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    There are actually sufficient clues in that photo that an amazing person - perhaps Margaret Drabble or Niall Ferguson on a really good day - could get it
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Gaza?
    I reckon that's a good call.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,474
    DavidL said:

    In other news my eldest daughter has just gone into labour. Being her, she is timing her contractions on an app and has a play list. Changed days.

    I put together playlists for the birth of my first daughter. The whole adventure was tremendously well planned. We had hours of music on there, all of a suitable mood and non-shitness (this was back in the days before Spotify - it was all ipod driven).
    In the end, after six or seven hours of labour, an emergency caeserean was needed. Wife was whisked off to the operating theatre where, incongruously, surgical staff were preparing with the sound of Saturday Night on Key 103, Manchester in the background. My daughter ended up emerging into the world to the accompaniment of the Weather Girls' "It's Raining Men." Which wasn't exactly the start I would have given her, but doesn't appear to have held her back.

    Daughters 2 and 3 were planned caesereans, and the need for hours of music for labouring to was not there. But I did enjoy slipping Morrissey's "Pregnant for the last time" into the playlist for the car on the way to the birth of my final child.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Gaza?
    I reckon that's a good call.
    Closer but no. Weirder than that
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,683
    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Is it the doorway to another dimension?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    Leon said:

    There are actually sufficient clues in that photo that an amazing person - perhaps Margaret Drabble or Niall Ferguson on a really good day - could get it

    Qatar
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,066

    Sean_F said:

    Vance is like Hans Frank or Roland Friesler. He’s there to justify the regime’s crimes.

    Like Goebbels?
    He was a pure propagandist. Vance is a propagandist holding a position mandated by the constitution.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,436
    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Is it the doorway to another dimension?
    Put it this way: when you cross thru that door it certainly feels like it
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Is it the doorway to another dimension?
    Put it this way: when you cross thru that door it certainly feels like it
    Jerusalem?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    edited February 20
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    My photo of the day

    If anyone can guess where this is they are an absolute fucking genius



    Gaza?
    I reckon that's a good call.
    Closer but no. Weirder than that
    That's the urban hellscape of Camden. Just outside that door lie two Christians, stabbed to death for their beliefs. Sharia law is enforced by roving gangs of Imams, free speech is non-existent, and the whole area is a no go zone for the police, who have retreated to the Essex borders.
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