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Absolutely agree.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Well done to this government, one of the best things they have done.3 -
The spring equinox is on or around the same day each year – 21/22 March. I have no idea what you are talking about with an empty tomb but if this is a historical event as you imply, then presumably it occurred on a given day in history? So actually we are moving this holiday due to whims of the lunar calendar –– crackers.algarkirk said:
Fair point, but there is another side. In our own day we are more and more aware of the link between the natural world and ourselves, and the risk of losing it. Easter is an occasion where the movements of nature take priority over the convenience of people.Anabobazina said:
They should hold it on that weekend every year, instead of the ludicrous nonsense of moving it every year based on some ancient algorithm of the moon or tide or some random priest's circadian rhythms. It is completely mad that it moves, wasting time for businesses and other organisations rescheduling every bloody year.algarkirk said:
I suppose in the western church we really ought to eat our hot cross buns unleavened but not gluten free. BTW 20 April is Easter in both west and east in 2025.bondegezou said:
M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns yesterday. (Although gluten-free Easter is on a different date because of the Council of Nicaea.)eek said:
Looks to be a petrol station SparSandpit said:Okay, so which shop is it that’s got their Easter eggs on sale before Christmas?
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Price tags are in £ so it’s a UK shop.
Also they are slacking I mentioned my first Crème Egg over a week ago
It is fixed by two naturally occurring events: the spring equinox and the full moon, joined to two past events, Good Friday being a Friday at the time of the Passover and the empty tomb being seen on a Sunday.
Change would gain something but also lose a little of our inheritance from antiquity.0 -
She'll almost certainly be primaried in the midtermsviewcode said:
So she'll be an independent member who may or may not "caucus with" (ie vote with) Republicans. Isn't this grounds for having her expelled from the Republican Party?Nigelb said:This is going to make management of the slim majority in the House just that bit more interesting.
NEWS - INDIANA GOP REP. VICTORIA SPARTZ is expected to refuse committee assignments in the next Congress. She will also not caucus with Republicans — not attend meetings. But she will remain a Republican.
I am also confused what she means. But she has told republicans this and leadership is aware.
https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/18687862071673325061 -
Starmer could renegotiate the Brexit agreement and then challenge people to vote for it or give up and rejoin, then be forced to resign when people reject his deal.Mexicanpete said:
Starmer or the next Labour leader could follow Cameron's lead at the next GE and promise an in/out EU referendum.eek said:
Labour would be better off in a coalition - instead they are going to have 100 MPs who discover they have no promotion to look forward to, are only going to be MPs for 5 years and will start sooner rather than later to create problemsMaxPB said:A lot of talk about how Labour boxed themselves in with the tax pledges, but looking at the results it seems that they probably needed to. Yes, the majority is big but it's based on winning just 33% of the vote. Not making those big tax pledges would have resulted far fewer Tory to Labour switchers and driven Tory no shows to the polling booth. We could have seen a 30-27 result in the end which wouldn't have even been a majority let alone the huge one they got.
Labour's majority is built on sand and I think without those big tax pledges they would be in minority government or in a coalition with the Lib Dems.0 -
WIll he set out the terms? Locked into the Euro too? What are the annual joining fees? Stuff like that...Mexicanpete said:
Starmer or the next Labour leader could follow Cameron's lead at the next GE and promise an in/out EU referendum.eek said:
Labour would be better off in a coalition - instead they are going to have 100 MPs who discover they have no promotion to look forward to, are only going to be MPs for 5 years and will start sooner rather than later to create problemsMaxPB said:A lot of talk about how Labour boxed themselves in with the tax pledges, but looking at the results it seems that they probably needed to. Yes, the majority is big but it's based on winning just 33% of the vote. Not making those big tax pledges would have resulted far fewer Tory to Labour switchers and driven Tory no shows to the polling booth. We could have seen a 30-27 result in the end which wouldn't have even been a majority let alone the huge one they got.
Labour's majority is built on sand and I think without those big tax pledges they would be in minority government or in a coalition with the Lib Dems.0 -
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.2 -
Of course HMG can afford it, many times over. We choose not to pay them and rightly so, because their case is very weak.StillWaters said:
To be fair, I’m not sure he could afford to compensate them and it’s not really his fault…SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
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The Pension Secretary is a woman -Liz Kendall.StillWaters said:
To be fair, I’m not sure he could afford to compensate them and it’s not really his fault…SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
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Seems terribly confused about the Scotland Acts and what's devolved and what isn't, that's for sure.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Unless he wants to claim credit for cancelling the WFA?
*checks*
Presumably not.
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It's a measure of the civilised nature of Ashley's comments that I am unlikely to be flamed heavily for my suggestion that all EVs be hardware moderated to 8s 0-60 and 3s 0-30.Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
And that people who need to hoon to get into a gap need to wait for a larger gap.0 -
Depends on the scheme, and whether there's zoning built into the LVT model. Often you'd have one land value and then a multiplier-type calculation where the land is shared between different uses. But there is a strong argument from my perspective that this should be left to the market: there is a LVT on the land, that is charged to the freeholder(s), and how it's then divvied up is down to them.No_Offence_Alan said:
Genuine question for the Land Value taxation-ers. Would a shop with a flat above it share the LVT equally?eek said:
Because Ground floor flats facing directly on to the pavement can’t be sold or rented for love nor money and drag down the value of the entire block of flats.Malmesbury said:
Though there is the issue of the religious belief in commercial units on the ground floor of anything built near a high street.Taz said:
Also the Green Belt. There is a fair chunk of the Green Belt ripe for development that should be a no brainer. Not rolling green countryside, which is what people automatically assume the Green Belt is.Shecorns88 said:
Thatcher created a housing crisis for generations by selling off Council Houses at disgusting low prices to buy votes.TimS said:
Now is a particularly auspicious time for government to invest, because:noneoftheabove said:
I disagree conceptually, they are separate things. The level of consumption spending and tax rates are a matter of choice and preference. Whether those stayed the same or changed I would still be in favour of borrowing to invest in housing and associated infrastructure.another_richard said:
But to justify the increased investment spending governments need to cut the consumption spending.noneoftheabove said:
Yes we should be spending on infrastructure, largely new housing and the stuff that needs to go with it. And perfectly reasonable to borrow for that.another_richard said:
Counter cyclical investment might also benefit from lower labour and material costs.noneoftheabove said:
The underlying thing is that when the economy is struggling the private sector is less likely to invest. Govts can borrow cheaper so the best time for government investment is actually in tough times not when we can afford it.algarkirk said:
Noted. And in good times it is fine to borrow more. But what is the rationale for borrowing more when we are already having to tighten our belts to pay the interest on the debt?noneoftheabove said:
It seem unlikely, barring some massive windfall a la Norway, that we intend to clear the national debt. We have run a national debt for centuries including when we were the richest country in the world. Lenders are obviously aware of this. Countries finances are not the same as household finances.algarkirk said:Question, WRT borrowing. UK plc is in debt to the tune of 2 trillion. The policy is that it is fine to 'borrow to invest', which in general is good. But is it good to do this when you already have borrowed so much, and don't seem to have a scheme for paying it back? If you don't have a plan for paying back what you already owe, how can you borrow more?
This has not been communicated very well to the voters.
I agree it is counter intuitive and not well explained.
The current situation though is one of higher labour and material costs.
So, despite the need for infrastructure investment, this has not been a good time for it economically.
A shift from current consumption spending to infrastructure investment spending by government would be required.
And that's where they need to show some political courage.
- The UK's creditworthiness relative to other major economies is quite solid, and the cost of debt is starting to fall / Sterling is getting a tad strong
- The UK's economy lacks spare infrastructure capacity and has done for ages, so there is very little risk of this triggering an investment bust and surplus capacity
- Other Western countries, with the exception of the US which is able to keep splurging because of its reserve currency, are not looking hugely investable at the moment. Japan is slowly picking itself up but France and Germany are in the doldrums, Italy remains difficult, Korea is politically volatile, China has surplus capacity, Saudi funds itself and Russia is off limits.
- Business investment remains low so there's an argument for government to step in to take up some of the slack
Anyone remember Dame Shirley Porter.
Then exacerbated the damage Ten fold by not allowing Councils to rebuild with even meagre proceeds.
State intervention NOW for the precise and logical reasons you state would be very welcome
Country first
Politics second.
Not just new builds.
Please please lets reinvigorate our failing and broken High Streets and suburbs by moving empty suitable Commercial Properties in to decent affordable social housing.
Optimise the services and utilities available.
Buy up empty failing and closed old Holiday Parks and do the same thing
Get Britain building
Country first
Politics second
Stuff like old car parks, old factories and the like. Been plenty of pics on twitter. Build on them and build up too.
This is one area where I like what Labour are doing. Focussing on build build build. There are still problems holding up building such as Nutrient Neutrality demands.
Just get on with building.
In Chiswick (high income, lots of footfall), we have units being built into new developments, while previous units have stood empty for years.
It’s cheaper to have an empty shop than try to put a flat there0 -
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…
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Easter Heggs 2025 on display in a shop in Jersey.
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Come one @Malmesbury (I think), sort it out !
Plus:
Liberty Jane Lester @libertylester 6h
Can we talk about the real Easter shocker? It’s illegal to dance on Good Friday in Jersey, illegal.
https://x.com/libertylester/status/18689304273540713310 -
My humble Renault Zoe is incredibly quick out of the blocks. It's just not very quick once the "out of the blocks" phase of driving has been completed.Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…0 -
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And some Swiss cantonsMattW said:Easter Heggs 2025 on display in a shop in Jersey.
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Come one @Malmesbury (I think), sort it out !
Plus:
Liberty Jane Lester @libertylester 6h
Can we talk about the real Easter shocker? It’s illegal to dance on Good Friday in Jersey, illegal.
https://x.com/libertylester/status/18689304273540713310 -
You're not wrong.Shecorns88 said:British Government takes MOD Housing Stock back off Rachmanesque Guy Hands Terra Firma 36000 properties for £6bn
Another unholy mess perpetrated by Major on 1996 and subject of Legal action after successive Tory Governments fecked it up still more.
Win for Servicemen
Win long term as will save MOD money
For Country
Not Party
Not short term bollocks
Long term planning
Defence Committee today - if MOD invest to improve a property, the asset value increase accrues to the private partner, and the rent charged goes up.
Fucked up.
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Who's the cricketer chappie getting an apotheosis in the painting? And what club is he?williamglenn said:Musk meets Farage
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/18690174554374676571 -
Very well done to the government, I am genuinely surprised by this sensible and appropriate decision.
Campaigners have reacted with fury to what it calls the government's "unjustified" rejection of compensation for women hit by changes to the state pension age.
They say 3.6 million women born in the 1950s were not properly informed of the rise in state pension age to bring them into line with men.
Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall apologised for a 28-month delay in sending letters, but has rejected any kind of financial payouts.
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Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.1 -
Who the fuck wrote that perverse contract out.MattW said:
You're not wrong.Shecorns88 said:British Government takes MOD Housing Stock back off Rachmanesque Guy Hands Terra Firma 36000 properties for £6bn
Another unholy mess perpetrated by Major on 1996 and subject of Legal action after successive Tory Governments fecked it up still more.
Win for Servicemen
Win long term as will save MOD money
For Country
Not Party
Not short term bollocks
Long term planning
Defence Committee today - if MOD invest to improve a property, the asset value increase accrues to the private partner, and the rent charged goes up.
Fucked up.0 -
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/18690180164842989100 -
Sir Humphrey Appleby?Pulpstar said:
Who the fuck wrote that perverse contract out.MattW said:
You're not wrong.Shecorns88 said:British Government takes MOD Housing Stock back off Rachmanesque Guy Hands Terra Firma 36000 properties for £6bn
Another unholy mess perpetrated by Major on 1996 and subject of Legal action after successive Tory Governments fecked it up still more.
Win for Servicemen
Win long term as will save MOD money
For Country
Not Party
Not short term bollocks
Long term planning
Defence Committee today - if MOD invest to improve a property, the asset value increase accrues to the private partner, and the rent charged goes up.
Fucked up.
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The head Trumper himself.Carnyx said:
Who's the cricketer chappie getting an apotheosis in the painting? And what club is he?williamglenn said:Musk meets Farage
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1869017455437467657
Perhaps Tong has a cricket club0 -
I think that's Nottingham Urban Area, which is a fairly bizarre methodology.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Urban_Area
It includes places nearly 15 miles away.1 -
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/18690180164842989100 -
Perhaps. It's possible that by being honest with the voters about the fiscal position and the necessity to increase taxes to spend more to fix things, that they then could have been bolder about their promises for spending.MaxPB said:A lot of talk about how Labour boxed themselves in with the tax pledges, but looking at the results it seems that they probably needed to. Yes, the majority is big but it's based on winning just 33% of the vote. Not making those big tax pledges would have resulted far fewer Tory to Labour switchers and driven Tory no shows to the polling booth. We could have seen a 30-27 result in the end which wouldn't have even been a majority let alone the huge one they got.
Labour's majority is built on sand and I think without those big tax pledges they would be in minority government or in a coalition with the Lib Dems.
This might have inspired more confidence about them knowing what they were doing and being a change from the status quo. They might have won a larger majority, with a share of the vote nudging 40% on a higher turnout.
I think Starmer's timidity is one of the reasons he underwhelmed in the election campaign, and is losing popularity now. It doesn't inspire confidence.
Perhaps that means you're right, and the best campaign Starmer could have run was a timid one. I don't know. But I'd have liked to have seen the argument made and a proper debate happen.2 -
Oh ducks, not enough people being nice about this disastrous turd sandwich of a Government for your liking?Anabobazina said:
Yes, this place has been a PB Tory group therapy session since the election. It really is becoming extremely dull. One would have hoped they’d have got the eff over it by now, but clearly not.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Pay growth jumps for first time in more than a year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkx36dpzmxo
Since we’re doing Tory partisanship again, why don’t I balance things out a bit.
Still, 20mph in Wales and cash-only parking meters or something.0 -
Anabobazina, pilot in charge of a plane spiralling towards a mountainside with all the cockpit lights flashing red. "What have I fucked with flying this plane exactly? We're still flying aren't we?"Anabobazina said:
What did she fuck with the budget exactly? I remember your predicting that she couldn't win because if she changed the borrowing rules to give herself headroom, the gilt markets would spiral out of control.Pulpstar said:
It wouldn't be an issue if she hadn't absolutely fucked it with the budget.Taz said:
That is really interesting but the one thing that really amazes me is the Reeves CV incident and the levels of awareness around it.Stuartinromford said:A neat way of graphing the story;
Worth saying a lot of Labour’s policy agenda is quite popular - Sewage Bill, GB Energy, Employment/renters rights, but apart from minimum wage increase they haven’t had same cut through as less popular policies: farmers IHT, winter fuel allowance, NICs, maybe that changes as policies become delivery.
https://bsky.app/profile/luketryl.bsky.social/post/3ldh25kvzis2g
I honestly thought it a nothing story that would appeal to the Political anoraks only.
You were wrong.0 -
Seems that there's enough capacity at Fishguard and Rosslare. Maybe Holyhead won't reopen? Bad news for the M4, perhaps.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just been on the A55 heading towards Conwy and the road signs say Port Closed
This is not good news for Holyhead or Irish sea trade
HGVs were conspicuous by their absence
Holyhead port drone video shows damage that's halted ferry services to Ireland
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/holyhead-port-drone-video-shows-30604077#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Wasn't there an M4 upgrade project the Welsh government binned? Oops.0 -
There needs to be much more driver training and awareness.Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…
To be fair, the £100k Tesla that can have fun with McLarens and Porsches at the traffic lights isn’t being bought by anyone who doesn’t know what it is, but the lesser models are often much faster than the average driver might realise.
It would make sense to limit full power to a kickdown mode, so that it’s not inadvertently activated by someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing. The average £40k Tesla Model 3 can line up against £120k supersaloon cars (M5, E63 etc) and aquaint themselves pretty well, which is where you get the problems.0 -
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside0 -
Baby bird falling off cliff with cockpit noises: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVEZSJt3dLoLostPassword said:
Anabobazina, pilot in charge of a plane spiralling towards a mountainside with all the cockpit lights flashing red. "What have I fucked with flying this plane exactly? We're still flying aren't we?"Anabobazina said:
What did she fuck with the budget exactly? I remember your predicting that she couldn't win because if she changed the borrowing rules to give herself headroom, the gilt markets would spiral out of control.Pulpstar said:
It wouldn't be an issue if she hadn't absolutely fucked it with the budget.Taz said:
That is really interesting but the one thing that really amazes me is the Reeves CV incident and the levels of awareness around it.Stuartinromford said:A neat way of graphing the story;
Worth saying a lot of Labour’s policy agenda is quite popular - Sewage Bill, GB Energy, Employment/renters rights, but apart from minimum wage increase they haven’t had same cut through as less popular policies: farmers IHT, winter fuel allowance, NICs, maybe that changes as policies become delivery.
https://bsky.app/profile/luketryl.bsky.social/post/3ldh25kvzis2g
I honestly thought it a nothing story that would appeal to the Political anoraks only.
You were wrong.0 -
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…0 -
Very bad news for the A40 given there's major work on the tunnels at Monmouth this week as well, although I suppose the traffic could be diverted south around the M4.LostPassword said:
Seems that there's enough capacity at Fishguard and Rosslare. Maybe Holyhead won't reopen? Bad news for the M4, perhaps.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just been on the A55 heading towards Conwy and the road signs say Port Closed
This is not good news for Holyhead or Irish sea trade
HGVs were conspicuous by their absence
Holyhead port drone video shows damage that's halted ferry services to Ireland
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/holyhead-port-drone-video-shows-30604077#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Wasn't there an M4 upgrade project the Welsh government binned? Oops.0 -
I agree that there are benefits to a fixed date for Easter, but a date earlier in the year would be better than April 20th. Easter is so late this year that Pancake Day is in March. Pancake Day should be in February.Anabobazina said:
They should hold it on that weekend every year, instead of the ludicrous nonsense of moving it every year based on some ancient algorithm of the moon or tide or some random priest's circadian rhythms. It is completely mad that it moves, wasting time for businesses and other organisations rescheduling every bloody year.algarkirk said:
I suppose in the western church we really ought to eat our hot cross buns unleavened but not gluten free. BTW 20 April is Easter in both west and east in 2025.bondegezou said:
M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns yesterday. (Although gluten-free Easter is on a different date because of the Council of Nicaea.)eek said:
Looks to be a petrol station SparSandpit said:Okay, so which shop is it that’s got their Easter eggs on sale before Christmas?
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Price tags are in £ so it’s a UK shop.
Also they are slacking I mentioned my first Crème Egg over a week ago0 -
This is bollocks. Power = torque x rpm. So at low wheel/rotor speeds EVs are not delivering anything close to "full power".Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
They are not even delivering Max torque because the locked rotor torque (0 rpm) is less than peak torque. Also EVs torque limit output at low rpm to increase drivetrain reliability.0 -
Lots and lots, most of SLab by the looks of it. They'll get round it by the time honoured method (cf Brexit) of pretending the WASPI thing doesn't and never has existed.kle4 said:
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/18690180164842989100 -
Yes, this is an excellent decision from the govt, impressed with how quickly since coming to office they have come up with a final position.kle4 said:Very well done to the government, I am genuinely surprised by this sensible and appropriate decision.
Campaigners have reacted with fury to what it calls the government's "unjustified" rejection of compensation for women hit by changes to the state pension age.
They say 3.6 million women born in the 1950s were not properly informed of the rise in state pension age to bring them into line with men.
Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall apologised for a 28-month delay in sending letters, but has rejected any kind of financial payouts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr36842nd6o0 -
I think this decision does lend credence to the idea things really were worse than Lab expected upon taking power, since the pre-election rhetoric was less vague than it could have been on this issue, so Slab and others really will have been taken by surprise by the choice made.Theuniondivvie said:
Lots and lots, most of SLab by the looks of it. They'll get round it by the time honoured method of pretending the WASPI thing doesn't and never has existed.kle4 said:
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/18690180164842989100 -
There's a version of events where the Labour majority would have been even bigger and it would have been wipeout time. If:LostPassword said:
Perhaps. It's possible that by being honest with the voters about the fiscal position and the necessity to increase taxes to spend more to fix things, that they then could have been bolder about their promises for spending.MaxPB said:A lot of talk about how Labour boxed themselves in with the tax pledges, but looking at the results it seems that they probably needed to. Yes, the majority is big but it's based on winning just 33% of the vote. Not making those big tax pledges would have resulted far fewer Tory to Labour switchers and driven Tory no shows to the polling booth. We could have seen a 30-27 result in the end which wouldn't have even been a majority let alone the huge one they got.
Labour's majority is built on sand and I think without those big tax pledges they would be in minority government or in a coalition with the Lib Dems.
This might have inspired more confidence about them knowing what they were doing and being a change from the status quo. They might have won a larger majority, with a share of the vote nudging 40% on a higher turnout.
I think Starmer's timidity is one of the reasons he underwhelmed in the election campaign, and is losing popularity now. It doesn't inspire confidence.
Perhaps that means you're right, and the best campaign Starmer could have run was a timid one. I don't know. But I'd have liked to have seen the argument made and a proper debate happen.
- October 7th and the Gaza invasion hadn't happened, and/or the Greens came out in support of Israel
- The Tories had a last minute scrambled attempt at replacing Sunak. Instead they remained pretty united in the final weeks
- Sunak had waited until this Autumn for the election (and Starmer might now be basking in the immediate post-election honeymoon)
I think Labour would have won even with tax rises in the manifesto, because everyone knew what was likely to happen. But it certainly would have given the Tories and the Tory press something to rally around during the campaign and would probably have drowned out all other stories.0 -
I doubt it, if one party was pledging to not increase income tax and the other one was then there's only one direction where the votes go. It would become Labour's tax bombshell and the whole campaign becomes a relentless assault on which taxes Labour will raise and by how much and adverts showing "Labour will increase your tax by £3000" etc...LostPassword said:
Perhaps. It's possible that by being honest with the voters about the fiscal position and the necessity to increase taxes to spend more to fix things, that they then could have been bolder about their promises for spending.MaxPB said:A lot of talk about how Labour boxed themselves in with the tax pledges, but looking at the results it seems that they probably needed to. Yes, the majority is big but it's based on winning just 33% of the vote. Not making those big tax pledges would have resulted far fewer Tory to Labour switchers and driven Tory no shows to the polling booth. We could have seen a 30-27 result in the end which wouldn't have even been a majority let alone the huge one they got.
Labour's majority is built on sand and I think without those big tax pledges they would be in minority government or in a coalition with the Lib Dems.
This might have inspired more confidence about them knowing what they were doing and being a change from the status quo. They might have won a larger majority, with a share of the vote nudging 40% on a higher turnout.
I think Starmer's timidity is one of the reasons he underwhelmed in the election campaign, and is losing popularity now. It doesn't inspire confidence.
Perhaps that means you're right, and the best campaign Starmer could have run was a timid one. I don't know. But I'd have liked to have seen the argument made and a proper debate happen.
I actually think that in the counterfactual the Tories could have eked out a tiny vote share lead and been only just behind in seats, that's how damaging a tax raising campaign would have been. A very large majority of working people already think taxes are too high, a relentless campaign on it would have submerged Labour IMO.0 -
Well, the Easter Act 1928 was never enforced but apparently set Easter as being between 9 April and 15 April every year.LostPassword said:
I agree that there are benefits to a fixed date for Easter, but a date earlier in the year would be better than April 20th. Easter is so late this year that Pancake Day is in March. Pancake Day should be in February.Anabobazina said:
They should hold it on that weekend every year, instead of the ludicrous nonsense of moving it every year based on some ancient algorithm of the moon or tide or some random priest's circadian rhythms. It is completely mad that it moves, wasting time for businesses and other organisations rescheduling every bloody year.algarkirk said:
I suppose in the western church we really ought to eat our hot cross buns unleavened but not gluten free. BTW 20 April is Easter in both west and east in 2025.bondegezou said:
M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns yesterday. (Although gluten-free Easter is on a different date because of the Council of Nicaea.)eek said:
Looks to be a petrol station SparSandpit said:Okay, so which shop is it that’s got their Easter eggs on sale before Christmas?
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Price tags are in £ so it’s a UK shop.
Also they are slacking I mentioned my first Crème Egg over a week ago0 -
Why is it bizarre? It's the Greater Nottingham area. Maybe the odd edge case settlement is 14 miles away, most of it is nothing like far away. And so what?MattW said:
I think that's Nottingham Urban Area, which is a fairly bizarre methodology.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Urban_Area
It includes places nearly 15 miles away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Urban_Area
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Lunisolar calendars are a bit erratic, yes.Anabobazina said:
The spring equinox is on or around the same day each year – 21/22 March. I have no idea what you are talking about with an empty tomb but if this is a historical event as you imply, then presumably it occurred on a given day in history? So actually we are moving this holiday due to whims of the lunar calendar –– crackers.algarkirk said:
Fair point, but there is another side. In our own day we are more and more aware of the link between the natural world and ourselves, and the risk of losing it. Easter is an occasion where the movements of nature take priority over the convenience of people.Anabobazina said:
They should hold it on that weekend every year, instead of the ludicrous nonsense of moving it every year based on some ancient algorithm of the moon or tide or some random priest's circadian rhythms. It is completely mad that it moves, wasting time for businesses and other organisations rescheduling every bloody year.algarkirk said:
I suppose in the western church we really ought to eat our hot cross buns unleavened but not gluten free. BTW 20 April is Easter in both west and east in 2025.bondegezou said:
M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns yesterday. (Although gluten-free Easter is on a different date because of the Council of Nicaea.)eek said:
Looks to be a petrol station SparSandpit said:Okay, so which shop is it that’s got their Easter eggs on sale before Christmas?
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Price tags are in £ so it’s a UK shop.
Also they are slacking I mentioned my first Crème Egg over a week ago
It is fixed by two naturally occurring events: the spring equinox and the full moon, joined to two past events, Good Friday being a Friday at the time of the Passover and the empty tomb being seen on a Sunday.
Change would gain something but also lose a little of our inheritance from antiquity.
Guess when the Easter Rising is commemorated?0 -
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…
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Not when you have so slim a majority.viewcode said:
So she'll be an independent member who may or may not "caucus with" (ie vote with) Republicans. Isn't this grounds for having her expelled from the Republican Party?Nigelb said:This is going to make management of the slim majority in the House just that bit more interesting.
NEWS - INDIANA GOP REP. VICTORIA SPARTZ is expected to refuse committee assignments in the next Congress. She will also not caucus with Republicans — not attend meetings. But she will remain a Republican.
I am also confused what she means. But she has told republicans this and leadership is aware.
https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1868786207167332506
See, also, the years of crap from Mnachin that the Democrats put up with - because to was, on balance, just about worth it in a 50/50 Senate.3 -
Why should it? Who gives a toss*?LostPassword said:
I agree that there are benefits to a fixed date for Easter, but a date earlier in the year would be better than April 20th. Easter is so late this year that Pancake Day is in March. Pancake Day should be in February.Anabobazina said:
They should hold it on that weekend every year, instead of the ludicrous nonsense of moving it every year based on some ancient algorithm of the moon or tide or some random priest's circadian rhythms. It is completely mad that it moves, wasting time for businesses and other organisations rescheduling every bloody year.algarkirk said:
I suppose in the western church we really ought to eat our hot cross buns unleavened but not gluten free. BTW 20 April is Easter in both west and east in 2025.bondegezou said:
M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns yesterday. (Although gluten-free Easter is on a different date because of the Council of Nicaea.)eek said:
Looks to be a petrol station SparSandpit said:Okay, so which shop is it that’s got their Easter eggs on sale before Christmas?
https://x.com/libertylester/status/1868666786549490089
Price tags are in £ so it’s a UK shop.
Also they are slacking I mentioned my first Crème Egg over a week ago
In any case it's not the date so much that I'm arguing about, it's the moronic shifting of it. First or second weekend in April would be fine too.
(*Yes, I know, I know)0 -
They'll quite likely lose their majority in the midterms.Pulpstar said:
She'll almost certainly be primaried in the midtermsviewcode said:
So she'll be an independent member who may or may not "caucus with" (ie vote with) Republicans. Isn't this grounds for having her expelled from the Republican Party?Nigelb said:This is going to make management of the slim majority in the House just that bit more interesting.
NEWS - INDIANA GOP REP. VICTORIA SPARTZ is expected to refuse committee assignments in the next Congress. She will also not caucus with Republicans — not attend meetings. But she will remain a Republican.
I am also confused what she means. But she has told republicans this and leadership is aware.
https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/18687862071673325061 -
I did wonder a little bit but couldn't believe it. Far more likely to be camanachd if that were the logic.Theuniondivvie said:
The head Trumper himself.Carnyx said:
Who's the cricketer chappie getting an apotheosis in the painting? And what club is he?williamglenn said:Musk meets Farage
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1869017455437467657
Perhaps Tong has a cricket club
What on earth is that trying to convey? Elephant polo?0 -
It's been shut since storm Darragh, a lot of traffic now heading north and travelling through Cairnryan/Liverpool.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just been on the A55 heading towards Conwy and the road signs say Port Closed
This is not good news for Holyhead or Irish sea trade
HGVs were conspicuous by their absence
Holyhead port drone video shows damage that's halted ferry services to Ireland
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/holyhead-port-drone-video-shows-30604077#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Doesn't sound like they'll get the repairs done before Christmas0 -
Portillo's legacy.Pulpstar said:
Who the fuck wrote that perverse contract out.MattW said:
You're not wrong.Shecorns88 said:British Government takes MOD Housing Stock back off Rachmanesque Guy Hands Terra Firma 36000 properties for £6bn
Another unholy mess perpetrated by Major on 1996 and subject of Legal action after successive Tory Governments fecked it up still more.
Win for Servicemen
Win long term as will save MOD money
For Country
Not Party
Not short term bollocks
Long term planning
Defence Committee today - if MOD invest to improve a property, the asset value increase accrues to the private partner, and the rent charged goes up.
Fucked up.0 -
Not really. Next.LostPassword said:
Anabobazina, pilot in charge of a plane spiralling towards a mountainside with all the cockpit lights flashing red. "What have I fucked with flying this plane exactly? We're still flying aren't we?"Anabobazina said:
What did she fuck with the budget exactly? I remember your predicting that she couldn't win because if she changed the borrowing rules to give herself headroom, the gilt markets would spiral out of control.Pulpstar said:
It wouldn't be an issue if she hadn't absolutely fucked it with the budget.Taz said:
That is really interesting but the one thing that really amazes me is the Reeves CV incident and the levels of awareness around it.Stuartinromford said:A neat way of graphing the story;
Worth saying a lot of Labour’s policy agenda is quite popular - Sewage Bill, GB Energy, Employment/renters rights, but apart from minimum wage increase they haven’t had same cut through as less popular policies: farmers IHT, winter fuel allowance, NICs, maybe that changes as policies become delivery.
https://bsky.app/profile/luketryl.bsky.social/post/3ldh25kvzis2g
I honestly thought it a nothing story that would appeal to the Political anoraks only.
You were wrong.0 -
Quite inflammatory language from a US senator who says the healthcare system is killing thousands and “doesn’t give a shit about people”.
https://x.com/chrismurphyct/status/18684068413250070360 -
The car relentlessly beeping for driving at 1mph over the speed limit is pretty unpopular too but they still make the manufacturers install it.Dura_Ace said:
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…0 -
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The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside1 -
I noticed this also in the Northwelsh news linky from BigG - something to gladden @CorrectHorseBattery : a mast being demolished with planning permission and all. (Wartime relic, important then, apparently.)
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-landmark-played-vital-role-30599713?int_source=nba0 -
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside1 -
Perhaps now the more gormless among their ranks may learn to keep their traps shut before making promises, though I'm not betting on it. Not Anas obvs, he's beyond help.kle4 said:
I think this decision does lend credence to the idea things really were worse than Lab expected upon taking power, since the pre-election rhetoric was less vague than it could have been on this issue, so Slab and others really will have been taken by surprise by the choice made.Theuniondivvie said:
Lots and lots, most of SLab by the looks of it. They'll get round it by the time honoured method of pretending the WASPI thing doesn't and never has existed.kle4 said:
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/1869018016484298910
'Anas Sarwar has said there will be no austerity under a Labour government as he fended off accusations from the SNP during an ill-tempered BBC Scotland leaders’ debate.
The first minister and SNP leader John Swinney repeatedly claimed on Tuesday evening that “independent experts said there would be £18bn of cuts after this election whether the Conservatives or Labour party form the government”. The audience loudly applauded Sarwar when he countered: “Read my lips: no austerity under Labour.”'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/read-my-lips-no-austerity-under-labour-sarwar-tells-scottish-leaders-debate2 -
No one should have believed that, but it's still wrong to have pushed it.Theuniondivvie said:
Perhaps now the more gormless among their ranks may learn to keep their traps shut before making promises, though I'm not betting on it. Not Anas obvs, he's beyond help.kle4 said:
I think this decision does lend credence to the idea things really were worse than Lab expected upon taking power, since the pre-election rhetoric was less vague than it could have been on this issue, so Slab and others really will have been taken by surprise by the choice made.Theuniondivvie said:
Lots and lots, most of SLab by the looks of it. They'll get round it by the time honoured method of pretending the WASPI thing doesn't and never has existed.kle4 said:
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/1869018016484298910
'Anas Sarwar has said there will be no austerity under a Labour government as he fended off accusations from the SNP during an ill-tempered BBC Scotland leaders’ debate.
The first minister and SNP leader John Swinney repeatedly claimed on Tuesday evening that “independent experts said there would be £18bn of cuts after this election whether the Conservatives or Labour party form the government”. The audience loudly applauded Sarwar when he countered: “Read my lips: no austerity under Labour.”'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/read-my-lips-no-austerity-under-labour-sarwar-tells-scottish-leaders-debate0 -
I'm old enough to remember when Slab actually won a by-election (Westminster variety) [edit] partly by promising to abolish the 2-bairn limit.Theuniondivvie said:
Perhaps now the more gormless among their ranks may learn to keep their traps shut before making promises, though I'm not betting on it. Not Anas obvs, he's beyond help.kle4 said:
I think this decision does lend credence to the idea things really were worse than Lab expected upon taking power, since the pre-election rhetoric was less vague than it could have been on this issue, so Slab and others really will have been taken by surprise by the choice made.Theuniondivvie said:
Lots and lots, most of SLab by the looks of it. They'll get round it by the time honoured method of pretending the WASPI thing doesn't and never has existed.kle4 said:
Going to be a lot of those photo comparisons to spread around. Holyrood elections definitely more competitive than they looked like 8 months ago.Theuniondivvie said:
Well, I guess he's not the only one with flexible principles.Taz said:
Why should he resign ?Theuniondivvie said:
Anas must resign.SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
Though I suppose if you squint at this tweet in a certain light, Anas meant that the WASPI women getting fuck all is the justice they deserve.
Anas Sarwar
@AnasSarwar
Under my leadership, WASPI women will finally receive the justice they deserve. Read more here: http://anassarwar.scot/news/justice-for-waspi-women/
10:13 am · 14 Oct 2017
https://x.com/davidbirkettsnp/status/1869006606949925235
They have received the justice they deserve.
Then: we want your vote.
Now: we've got your vote.
https://x.com/DaveDooganSNP/status/1869018016484298910
'Anas Sarwar has said there will be no austerity under a Labour government as he fended off accusations from the SNP during an ill-tempered BBC Scotland leaders’ debate.
The first minister and SNP leader John Swinney repeatedly claimed on Tuesday evening that “independent experts said there would be £18bn of cuts after this election whether the Conservatives or Labour party form the government”. The audience loudly applauded Sarwar when he countered: “Read my lips: no austerity under Labour.”'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/11/read-my-lips-no-austerity-under-labour-sarwar-tells-scottish-leaders-debate0 -
The problem with those driver assistance gizmos at the moment is that we're in this transitional state between automation and manual driving. We get the nagging but still have to shoulder the responsibility of actually being in charge of the car.noneoftheabove said:
The car relentlessly beeping for driving at 1mph over the speed limit is pretty unpopular too but they still make the manufacturers install it.Dura_Ace said:
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…0 -
In the Leaf you can activate snail mode by pressing the ECO button, if you really want to.Dura_Ace said:
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…0 -
@TSE
Been watching Paula Vennells' Solicitor putting the case for at at the close of the PO Inquiry. She couldn't have looked more uncomfortable if she had been representing Satan.
I guess this is something you briefs have to learn to deal with...or does it come naturally?0 -
They do limit acceleration to an extent. On the original Tesla Roadster, it proved very hard to design a gear train that could survive such massive torque from zero.Dura_Ace said:
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…
Insurance costs are probably the limiting issue, at the moment.
The EV delivery van drivers seem to love launching - that and using the weight of the battery, low down, to help corner very, very sharply, while accelerating0 -
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.1 -
Say thirty Hail Marys*, and repent your disgraceful besmirchment of the memory of the great Victor Trumper.Theuniondivvie said:
The head Trumper himself...Carnyx said:
Who's the cricketer chappie getting an apotheosis in the painting? And what club is he?williamglenn said:Musk meets Farage
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1869017455437467657
*Full of Grace.0 -
Audi, with a heavy heart, takes the "painful" decision to close a non-German EV factory in the face of declining demand.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/audi-takes-painful-decision-to-close-brussels-ev-factory-as-electric-car-demand-slows/ar-AA1w1iPt?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8d18ca2b027d4f24a4f69fcf462fe0cc&ei=180 -
Still less so, now there's a weather warning for the Welsh coast (and some of NI and S Scotland).DoctorG said:
It's been shut since storm Darragh, a lot of traffic now heading north and travelling through Cairnryan/Liverpool.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just been on the A55 heading towards Conwy and the road signs say Port Closed
This is not good news for Holyhead or Irish sea trade
HGVs were conspicuous by their absence
Holyhead port drone video shows damage that's halted ferry services to Ireland
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/holyhead-port-drone-video-shows-30604077#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
Doesn't sound like they'll get the repairs done before Christmas0 -
Here's where I'd boundary Notts city council.
I think you need a hard stop at the M1, and the most marginal settlement to my mind should be Hucknall. Generally the boundary needs to stop at the Trent to the south, though I'd head past it for contiguous built up areas beyond (& yes golf courses are built up areas). It certainly doesn't go 15 miles away but it definitely DOES include Beeston 1000%.2 -
You learn you cannot polish a turd but that you can add glitter to it.Peter_the_Punter said:@TSE
Been watching Paula Vennells' Solicitor putting the case for at at the close of the PO Inquiry. She couldn't have looked more uncomfortable if she had been representing Satan.
I guess this is something you briefs have to learn to deal with...or does it come naturally?
Semantics are your friend.
I remember spinning for a client and my argument was that ‘they are so good hearted that they couldn’t conceive that some people are bad people out there as they assumed everybody was as nice as them’ when they didn’t ask some questions about some blatant fraud going on under their watch.2 -
Painted by a sycophant*, and it's a tennis sweater.Carnyx said:
I did wonder a little bit but couldn't believe it. Far more likely to be camanachd if that were the logic.Theuniondivvie said:
The head Trumper himself.Carnyx said:
Who's the cricketer chappie getting an apotheosis in the painting? And what club is he?williamglenn said:Musk meets Farage
https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1869017455437467657
Perhaps Tong has a cricket club
What on earth is that trying to convey? Elephant polo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Visionary
*After Holbein's Anne of Cleeves.1 -
Whereas Trump condemns the 'sickness' of people supporting Luigi:williamglenn said:Quite inflammatory language from a US senator who says the healthcare system is killing thousands and “doesn’t give a shit about people”.
https://x.com/chrismurphyct/status/1868406841325007036
https://nypost.com/2024/12/16/us-news/donald-trump-rips-public-fawning-of-accused-ceo-killer-luigi-mangione-as-a-sickness-people-seem-to-admire-him/0 -
Our iX has Eco Pro mode which I theorise limits current draw in the BMS to improve range and reduce performance. I put a Dragy on ours and it did 0-120mph in 16s which makes it brisk but no more. It's not that fast off the line coz it's a porker. It'll also only pull 0.8g lateral acceleration.FeersumEnjineeya said:
In the Leaf you can activate snail mode by pressing the ECO button, if you really want to.Dura_Ace said:
They definitely could and it would be possible to implement it entirely in software. However, it would be very unpopular, hinder EV adoption and ultimately there are only a tiny minority who are trying to rip sub 10s quarters regularly.noneoftheabove said:
Yes understand but surely given all the other safety put into modern cars we can establish some acceleration limit thresholds for 0-30 and 0-60 for cars to get licensed, and manufacturers can build that into the designs?Malmesbury said:
Speed isn’t the problem.noneoftheabove said:
Can't the manufacturers speed limit them?Malmesbury said:
There’s a whole YouTube genre dedicated to people stamping on the accelerator in EVs and discovering what a flat torque curve from zero means.MattW said:Today's short from Ashley Neal.
A near collision where he suggests both drivers do not realise how quickly their electric vehicles can accelerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV_8SsEUggk
It’s acceleration. A Tesla P100D can do 0-60 in 2 and 1/4 seconds. Further, the acceleration from 0 to 30 is even more ferocious than that implies - electric cars have full power from zero (pretty much)
Even quite down market EVs can accelerate very hard. The EV van drivers have discovered how much fun they can have…
It’s why electric cars suddenly came in. Buy a saloon car that can wipe out super cars at the lights…
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Looks about right to me. I'd chuck in Ilkeston too for sure. TBH your map is not far from the official Greater Nottingham Urban Area as defined by the ONS (although they include some settlements to the NW - e.g. Heanor – I think)Pulpstar said:
Here's where I'd boundary Notts city council.
I think you need a hard stop at the M1, and the most marginal settlement to my mind should be Hucknall. Generally the boundary needs to stop at the Trent to the south, though I'd head past it for contiguous built up areas beyond (& yes golf courses are built up areas). It certainly doesn't go 15 miles away but it definitely DOES include Beeston 1000%.0 -
As a Londoner, my assumption was that Londoners would tell non-Londoners they were from London, but if talking to another Londoner, they'd specify the district.Anabobazina said:
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.
But I had a London immigrant tell me that I was wrong, and proper Londoners always told people what part of London they were from. As if a Cork man is likely to know the difference between Clapham and West Norwood.1 -
Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.0 -
Ann Selzer did joke in the past that it would cost a lot of money to get her to rig a poll because she'd have to retire afterwards.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.0 -
Has anyone ever asked the man on the West Norwood omnibus ?LostPassword said:
As a Londoner, my assumption was that Londoners would tell non-Londoners they were from London, but if talking to another Londoner, they'd specify the district.Anabobazina said:
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.
But I had a London immigrant tell me that I was wrong, and proper Londoners always told people what part of London they were from. As if a Cork man is likely to know the difference between Clapham and West Norwood.2 -
Indeed so. I think that is spot on.LostPassword said:
As a Londoner, my assumption was that Londoners would tell non-Londoners they were from London, but if talking to another Londoner, they'd specify the district.Anabobazina said:
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.
But I had a London immigrant tell me that I was wrong, and proper Londoners always told people what part of London they were from. As if a Cork man is likely to know the difference between Clapham and West Norwood.
Meanwhile, if we are drawing maps for policy makers who apparently read this thread (?), the new Newcastle Super Council should look something like this IMO.
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Well, it is at least a slight variant on the classic "I'm too stupid to be criminal" defence, with a better chance of still falling upwards into some well paying gig from well connected mates.TheScreamingEagles said:
You learn you cannot polish a turd but that you can add glitter to it.Peter_the_Punter said:@TSE
Been watching Paula Vennells' Solicitor putting the case for at at the close of the PO Inquiry. She couldn't have looked more uncomfortable if she had been representing Satan.
I guess this is something you briefs have to learn to deal with...or does it come naturally?
Semantics are your friend.
I remember spinning for a client and my argument was that ‘they are so good hearted that they couldn’t conceive that some people are bad people out there as they assumed everybody was as nice as them’ when they didn’t ask some questions about some blatant fraud going on under their watch.0 -
A man consumed by grudges both large and petty.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
He should have a lot of people commit crimes on his behalf too - I know he's immune from most crimes anyway as President, but he might as well make use of the absurd pardon powers Presidents have as well.0 -
I used to live in Heaton, in between Byker and Walker, and I don't remember anyone claiming that any of those areas were anything other than Newcastle. North Shields, Tynemouth and Whitley Bay maybe, but the inland suburbs to the east of the town centre no. Gateshead though certainly persisted in the fiction that it wasn't part of Newcastle, a fine example of the kind of boneheaded parochialism at which the north of England excels.eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside1 -
Number of pardons issued by recent presidents:kle4 said:
A man consumed by grudges both large and petty.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
He should have a lot of people commit crimes on his behalf too - I know he's immune from most crimes anyway as President, but he might as well make use of the absurd pardon powers Presidents have as well.
Joe Biden - 8027
Donald Trump - 237
Barack Obama - 19271 -
Tanker number three is foundering.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/18690275070115188070 -
What super council - the mayoral area is Northumbria down to Newton Aycliffe and the unitary authorities are all a reasonable size anywayAnabobazina said:
Indeed so. I think that is spot on.LostPassword said:
As a Londoner, my assumption was that Londoners would tell non-Londoners they were from London, but if talking to another Londoner, they'd specify the district.Anabobazina said:
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.
But I had a London immigrant tell me that I was wrong, and proper Londoners always told people what part of London they were from. As if a Cork man is likely to know the difference between Clapham and West Norwood.
Meanwhile, if we are drawing maps for policy makers who apparently read this thread (?), the new Newcastle Super Council should look something like this IMO.
And you’ve basically just merged all of the Tyne and Wear unitary councils into a single council excluding Sunderland1 -
Quite so - he underutilised it, Biden has shown the way in particular given the pardon to his son.williamglenn said:
Number of pardons issued by recent presidents:kle4 said:
A man consumed by grudges both large and petty.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
He should have a lot of people commit crimes on his behalf too - I know he's immune from most crimes anyway as President, but he might as well make use of the absurd pardon powers Presidents have as well.
Joe Biden - 8027
Donald Trump - 237
Barack Obama - 19270 -
The capitalisation of Massive Storm made me think it was a new type of missile.Nigelb said:Tanker number three is foundering.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/18690275070115188070 -
The “I’m too nice to spot crime” thing is screaming at the top of your voice that you are “A Team Player” and a “Safe Pair of Hands”.kle4 said:
Well, it is at least a slight variant on the classic "I'm too stupid to be criminal" defence, with a better chance of still falling upwards into some well paying gig from well connected mates.TheScreamingEagles said:
You learn you cannot polish a turd but that you can add glitter to it.Peter_the_Punter said:@TSE
Been watching Paula Vennells' Solicitor putting the case for at at the close of the PO Inquiry. She couldn't have looked more uncomfortable if she had been representing Satan.
I guess this is something you briefs have to learn to deal with...or does it come naturally?
Semantics are your friend.
I remember spinning for a client and my argument was that ‘they are so good hearted that they couldn’t conceive that some people are bad people out there as they assumed everybody was as nice as them’ when they didn’t ask some questions about some blatant fraud going on under their watch.1 -
These are 50-year-old river tankers that were condemned more than a decade ago, and shouldn’t have been near open water even when they were new.Nigelb said:Tanker number three is foundering.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1869027507011518807
What a shame.0 -
OnlyLivingBoy said:
I used to live in Heaton, in between Byker and Walker, and I don't remember anyone claiming that any of those areas were anything other than Newcastle. North Shields, Tynemouth and Whitley Bay maybe, but the inland suburbs to the east of the town centre no. Gateshead though certainly persisted in the fiction that it wasn't part of Newcastle, a fine example of the kind of boneheaded parochialism at which the north of England excels.eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
LOL – post of the day.
Perfectly put.0 -
Perhaps he hadn't decided on the scale of fees?williamglenn said:
Number of pardons issued by recent presidents:kle4 said:
A man consumed by grudges both large and petty.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
He should have a lot of people commit crimes on his behalf too - I know he's immune from most crimes anyway as President, but he might as well make use of the absurd pardon powers Presidents have as well.
Joe Biden - 8027
Donald Trump - 237
Barack Obama - 19270 -
Old Denby, for example, is not the "Greater Nottingham Area". Nor is Heanor. Nor is Ripley.Anabobazina said:
Why is it bizarre? It's the Greater Nottingham area. Maybe the odd edge case settlement is 14 miles away, most of it is nothing like far away. And so what?MattW said:
I think that's Nottingham Urban Area, which is a fairly bizarre methodology.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Urban_Area
It includes places nearly 15 miles away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Urban_Area
Drawing it out that far is beyond absurd.0 -
That's a ridiculous comment.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
As if it's a mere chance rather than a stone certainty.3 -
Yes, I'd have a Greater Newcastle council and a Greater Sunderland one. Just two – that would be sensible geographically and from an economies of scale perspective.eek said:
What super council - the mayoral area is Northumbria down to Newton Aycliffe and the unitary authorities are all a reasonable size anywayAnabobazina said:
Indeed so. I think that is spot on.LostPassword said:
As a Londoner, my assumption was that Londoners would tell non-Londoners they were from London, but if talking to another Londoner, they'd specify the district.Anabobazina said:
The simple truth is that they are Londoners and will mostly say they are from London when meeting people. They might specify which part of London, just as someone from Gateshead often says they are from Newcastle when they are on holiday but might then specify which bit if/when asked.kle4 said:
That's always overegged. Especially as the other common trope is that most areas do not have enough unique identity thesedays.Anabobazina said:
The "they have their own identity" thing is massively overegged. Do you think people from Wimbledon or Ealing are Londoners?eek said:
I’m not sure about Newcastle. Going East from Newcastle you go Byker, Walker, Wallsend and then North Shields, Tynemouth / Whitley Bay all of which have their own (none Newcastle) identity.Carnyx said:
Glasgow too.Anabobazina said:
Nottingham's population is 768,638, according to the ONS.MarqueeMark said:
When you've lost them, voters are very patient when waiting to tell parties they have lost their confidence. It was clear they wanted the Tories out. Sunak waiting a further six months would likeliest have just pissed off more of them. However long you play it, there is no happy outcome. Maybe too soon to say that of Starmer, but the signs aren't good.rottenborough said:
Sounds like they plan not to hold elections so we can't make our views known at ballot box.MarqueeMark said:
Good luck selling that message to the voters...Anabobazina said:
Nope. Those residents are part and parcel of a functioning city – they should pay their way towards it, not reside in a make-believe tax haven outside its bonkers official boundaries.rottenborough said:
In Nottingham case voters in wards in Broxtowe/Bridgford who are in financially functioning district councils whose 2nd tier is the County will be transferred to a bankrupt city under these plans.Anabobazina said:
It can be called Newcastle & Tyneside, if only to satisfy a miserable handful of parochial contrary old-timers. I have family from Gateshead. Everywhere they go, they (quite reasonably) say they are from Newcastle.JohnLilburne said:
If you called it Tyneside or Tynebank or something you would probably get away with it, not if you called it Greater Newcastle or South NorthumberlandAnabobazina said:
Wrong. It's not been in County Durham for 50 years. Only contrary old-timers think that. Gateshead quayside is part and parcel of Newcastle city centre. Merge them, along with North and South Tyneside, which are equally nonsensical constructs. Should have happened decades ago.SandyRentool said:
Bollocks to that. Gateshead is, and always will be, in County Durham.Anabobazina said:
The official 'City of Nottingham' is a geographical nonsense. Its borders should be expanded to encapsulate the likes of Bridgford, Gedling even Long Eaton, Ilkeston etc which are technically in Derbyshire but part of Greater Nottingham. Should have been done decades ago.MattW said:
That scraping noise is the West Bridgford Maquis sharpening the inherited Victorinox Oyster Shuckers they have left over from 1972...Anabobazina said:Good to see local government (potentially) being sorted out. It’s an abject mess in most places. Two-tier councils are pointless, and cities like Nottingham and Manchester have ludicrously tight boundaries that make no geographical sense and should have been expanded decades ago.
JFDI.
Similar situation in Manchester and Newcastle – where parts of what is effectively the city centre are in another council area.
JFDI.
Not part of Newcastle, or in any way associated with that minor county on the other side of the river.
Presumably people like Sandy still insist Brixton is in Surrey and Tottenham is in Hertfordshire?
Madness.
Their services will be woeful compared to where they now live. Libraries shut, bin collections moved to once a month and all the rest.
This lot seem absolutely determined to make the way clear for Farage and Reform.
Yet Nottingham City Council's population is only 323,632.
So only 42% of the city's population is captured by the council area –– that is clearly insane and should have been fixed decades ago.
P.S. It's not just Nottingham that has this problem – similar issues exist in Newcastle, Bristol, Manchester etc.
Going North it’s Newcastle until Ponteland, going south it’s immediately Gateshead.
And going West it’s Newcastle all the way to open countryside
And councils are about sensible urban planning not spurious parochial claims.
But I had a London immigrant tell me that I was wrong, and proper Londoners always told people what part of London they were from. As if a Cork man is likely to know the difference between Clapham and West Norwood.
Meanwhile, if we are drawing maps for policy makers who apparently read this thread (?), the new Newcastle Super Council should look something like this IMO.
And you’ve basically just merged all of the Tyne and Wear unitary councils into a single council excluding Sunderland
The white paper advocates for unitaries of at least 500,000 people AIUI – so many (all?) existing Tyneside councils would presumably be abolished or merged to reach that threshold?0 -
I reckon the intention from Trump 2.0 team is to scare pollsters out of the business.kle4 said:
A man consumed by grudges both large and petty.Nigelb said:Trump having another normal day.
Trump sues Des Moines Register, pollster
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5043821-donald-trump-des-moines-register-ann-selzer-lawsuit/
Chances are, the second administration will be a clusterfuck.
He should have a lot of people commit crimes on his behalf too - I know he's immune from most crimes anyway as President, but he might as well make use of the absurd pardon powers Presidents have as well.
It is will so much easier to 'fix' 2028 election if there is no polling indicating he is losing.
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Of course you can polish a turd, did you never watch Mythbusters?TheScreamingEagles said:
You learn you cannot polish a turd but that you can add glitter to it.Peter_the_Punter said:@TSE
Been watching Paula Vennells' Solicitor putting the case for at at the close of the PO Inquiry. She couldn't have looked more uncomfortable if she had been representing Satan.
I guess this is something you briefs have to learn to deal with...or does it come naturally?
Semantics are your friend.
I remember spinning for a client and my argument was that ‘they are so good hearted that they couldn’t conceive that some people are bad people out there as they assumed everybody was as nice as them’ when they didn’t ask some questions about some blatant fraud going on under their watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI0 -
I was making a grammar Nazi comment…noneoftheabove said:
Of course HMG can afford it, many times over. We choose not to pay them and rightly so, because their case is very weak.StillWaters said:
To be fair, I’m not sure he could afford to compensate them and it’s not really his fault…SandraMc said:WASPI women told not being compensated by Pension Secretary.
“Not being compensated by the Pensions Secretary”.
Great, who are they being compensated by?
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