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This should move Betfair back to Harris – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,032
edited August 30 in General
imageThis should move Betfair back to Harris – politicalbetting.com

Harris pulls away from Trump in six of seven swing states, per a Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll. Usual caveats about margins of error, the election is months away, etc, etc. Still: Trump has clearly blown his ample pre-RNC momentum and Harris is surging.https://t.co/V2CoaPnPB6 pic.twitter.com/22sJ8p5osv

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  • eekeek Posts: 27,352
    First as Harris will be come November..
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Quakering, Pennsylvania.

    My genius is awesome.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 22,055
    First. And willing to pay for their holidays if it takes the Supreme Court to confirm it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Quakering, Pennsylvania.

    My genius is awesome.

    You certainly don't hide your light under a Bushell.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    So Harris pulls away from Trump and comes first, and then Trump clearly blows his ample?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 11,990
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Quakering, Pennsylvania.

    My genius is awesome.

    The father of William Penn the Quaker, as in Pennsylvania, was a senior colleague of Pepys in the navy office.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    mercator said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Quakering, Pennsylvania.

    My genius is awesome.

    You certainly don't hide your light under a Bushell.
    I'm always on Bushel's case.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 120,871
    edited August 30
    The new Bloomberg state polls coupled with the new Emerson state polls that have Harris ahead in Michigan and Georgia but Trump ahead in Arizona and North Carolina and Wisconsin and Nevada and Pennsylvania tied a close race is clearly emerging. Yet with Harris with the narrow advantage as we head to Labor Day on Monday and the start of the campaign proper now the conventions and running mate picks have been made.

    https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2024-swing-state-polls-toss-up-presidential-election-in-swing-states/

    Overall, it looks like Harris is clearly ahead in Michigan and Georgia, Trump is ahead in Arizona and Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and North Carolina are close but with Harris overall ahead
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,006
    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,051
    The UUP leadership election is over, much quicker than the Tories'! Mike Nesbitt has been elected unopposed.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,405
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Remember the fury before the indoor smoking ban?

    Would anyone really want to reverse that now?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 10,051
    HYUFD said:

    The new Bloomberg state polls coupled with the new Emerson state polls that have Harris ahead in Michigan and Georgia but Trump ahead in Arizona and North Carolina and Wisconsin and Nevada and Pennsylvania tied a close race is clearly emerging. Yet with Harris with the narrow advantage as we head to Labor Day on Monday and the start of the campaign proper now the conventions and running mate picks have been made.

    https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2024-swing-state-polls-toss-up-presidential-election-in-swing-states/

    Overall, it looks like Harris is clearly ahead in Michigan and Georgia, Trump is ahead in Arizona and Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and North Carolina are close but with Harris overall ahead

    The 2 latest Nevada polls are:

    state HARRIS TRUMP
    Nevada 49% 45% Aug 23 Aug 26 Morning Consult
    Nevada 49% 48% Aug 25 Aug 28 Emerson Coll.

    I wouldn't say Trump is ahead.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,538
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    Perhaps Starmer can have the portrait hung in Downing Street's outdoors smoking area, where it can be enjoyed by libertarians.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 48,143
    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    Perhaps Starmer can have the portrait hung in Downing Street's outdoors smoking area, where it can be enjoyed by libertarians.
    I thought the plan was to ban the outside smoking areas, as well?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    And Hamilton quickest in FP2.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 120,871
    bondegezou said:

    HYUFD said:

    The new Bloomberg state polls coupled with the new Emerson state polls that have Harris ahead in Michigan and Georgia but Trump ahead in Arizona and North Carolina and Wisconsin and Nevada and Pennsylvania tied a close race is clearly emerging. Yet with Harris with the narrow advantage as we head to Labor Day on Monday and the start of the campaign proper now the conventions and running mate picks have been made.

    https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2024-swing-state-polls-toss-up-presidential-election-in-swing-states/

    Overall, it looks like Harris is clearly ahead in Michigan and Georgia, Trump is ahead in Arizona and Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and North Carolina are close but with Harris overall ahead

    The 2 latest Nevada polls are:

    state HARRIS TRUMP
    Nevada 49% 45% Aug 23 Aug 26 Morning Consult
    Nevada 49% 48% Aug 25 Aug 28 Emerson Coll.

    I wouldn't say Trump is ahead.
    RCP has Trump ahead by 0.3% in Nevada now

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/nevada/trump-vs-harris
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 50,526
    Malmesbury said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    Perhaps Starmer can have the portrait hung in Downing Street's outdoors smoking area, where it can be enjoyed by libertarians.
    I thought the plan was to ban the outside smoking areas, as well?
    Two-tier Keir is the man who decides the exceptions.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Nigelb said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    And Hamilton quickest in FP2.
    That actually pains me.

    All I can think is why the feck is he leaving this awesome Merc for the clown show that is Ferrari?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,337
    @RedfieldWilton
    NEW: 🇺🇸 US States Voting Intention (25-28 August):

    (Trump | Harris)

    AZ (46% | 45%)
    FL (48% | 43%)
    GA (44% | 42%)
    MI (44% | 47%)
    MN (42% | 51%)
    NV (47% | 47%)
    NM (40% | 47%)
    NC (45% | 44%)
    PA (45% | 46%)
    WI (44% | 48%)

    https://x.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1829552235887403408
  • NickyBreakspearNickyBreakspear Posts: 758
    edited August 30
    Scott_xP said:

    @RedfieldWilton
    NEW: 🇺🇸 US States Voting Intention (25-28 August):

    (Trump | Harris)

    AZ (46% | 45%)
    FL (48% | 43%)
    GA (44% | 42%)
    MI (44% | 47%)
    MN (42% | 51%)
    NV (47% | 47%)
    NM (40% | 47%)
    NC (45% | 44%)
    PA (45% | 46%)
    WI (44% | 48%)

    https://x.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1829552235887403408

    https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-us-swing-states-voting-intention-25-28-august-2024/




    The number of undecided voters ranges widely, with as few as 4% of voters in Nevada, and as many as 12% of voters in Georgia, saying that they ‘don’t know’ for whom they will vote for in November.

    In a tight election, with many of these states likely to be settled by only a few thousand votes, any movement of 2020 Biden voters to Trump or 2020 Trump voters to Harris could make the key difference.

    In Arizona, Georgia, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Wisconsin, more 2020 Trump voters are switching to Harris than 2020 Biden voters are switching to Trump. By contrast, in Florida, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, more 2020 Biden voters are switching to Trump than 2020 Trump voters are switching to Harris. A greater number of 2020 Biden voters are currently undecided than 2020 Trump voters in every state except Minnesota where the numbers are tied.

    The economy remains the single most important issue for pluralities of voters in every swing state polled. Abortion and immigration are the second and third most commonly cited issues in each state, respectively, apart from in Georgia and Minnesota, where healthcare is tied with immigration as the third most commonly cited issue.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,757
    FPT
    Fairliered said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Eabhal said:

    MattW said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    Cookie said:

    Foxy said:

    Cookie said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    Considering that ultra processed foods make up about 60% of calories consumed in this country and that percentage increases for children and people in poorer areas, the UK government has to do something to make the population aware that their food choices are killing them.
    The "food" industry bears full responsibility for the obesity epidemic, and are as evil as the tobacco companies.
    Sadly, we're too far down the hole to make healthy eating affordable for the masses, so we're fucked.

    I understand the book about UPF is very good, but I think oversimplifying the concept misses the point. It is not the case that the less processing you do to something the better it is for you. Vegetables' goodness is often better absorbed when the vegetable is cooked. The fat soluble vitamins in many vegetables needs to be accompanied by fat - hence we put butter on our carrots and dressing on our salad. Cabbage is better for you when fermented. These are all food processes.
    I absolutely agree with you. Processed food is more than acceptable. Humans have Processed food for thousands of years and without it, humans wouldn't be at the top of the tree now. All food is Processed in some way.
    What I'm arguing against is the industrial manufacture of food using unheard of and often poorly regulated chemicals and fats, gums and sweeteners. Those are the ones that suppress and overide the body's natural systems.
    I saw an interesting map recently: the UK consumption of sugar is on the low side compared to European averages. Clearly this is just one measure, but I'd always thought this quite a good proxy for quality of diet.



    My guess is that a big part of our problem is lifestyle, and car-dependency. You don't see many fatties in Denmark or the Netherlands.
    But it's only a guess, and no doubt the answer is complex.
    The Dutch are particularly interesting, as one of the few countries that rival us in terms of unhealthy traditional diet.

    You can get away with it if you do enough cycling.
    Dutch cycling culture is quite interesting. It is quite different from ours. It is almost all on knackered old bikes at speeds barely more than running pace. Which, in generalised journey cost terms - taking into account the cost of time, the cost of your bike, the faff time in getting it out and securing it (which is much lower in a bike which costs £100 than £1000, because you care about it less), the time taken to shower after cycling really fast, etc - works out rather better.
    Old maids, mist, holy communion, isn't it? Quite a lot of cycling is like that, even in the UK. But it doesn't help the debate that the more visible manifestations are clad in lycra and aggressively going fast. (Because in too many places, aggression is the only way to survive.)
    Huge numbers of people in the UK do not cycle or walk because they perceive the roads to be a dangerous environment, where they will be threatened, bullied and abused. The figures are startling.
    In urban areas I think storage is at least as big an issue too. There are only 2,400 secure cycle storage spots in Edinburgh, for about 300,000 people living in flats.
    You need one of these:


    Typical cyclist. Blocking the train doorway! 😉
    Just do what sensible people do....;.train doors open chuck it onto the platform
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,538
    Malmesbury said:

    OnlyLivingBoy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    Perhaps Starmer can have the portrait hung in Downing Street's outdoors smoking area, where it can be enjoyed by libertarians.
    I thought the plan was to ban the outside smoking areas, as well?
    At that point they can bin the Thatch picture. Win-win.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,749
    This is quite an interesting little story about something that has not been a prominent political question for a few years. Badger cull to be ended by a vaccination (for badgers) programme by the end of the first term, with research on vaccines (for cows) continuing.

    Cow culling cost is currently £100m approx per annum.

    I didn't think that was coming this quickly. It had a walk on part in the manifesto.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qg52r7jzxo

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,497
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    It's an oddity of the thread, a veritable Quark.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 7,806
    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Quakering, Pennsylvania.

    My genius is awesome.

    Stop the oats!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,749
    Eabhal said:

    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.

    They are now talking about betting tax.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,749
    MattW said:

    Eabhal said:

    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.

    They are now talking about betting tax.
    Now they are on to a parcel delivery tax.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,749
    edited August 30
    Eabhal said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Eabhal said:

    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.

    They are now talking about betting tax.
    Now they are on to a parcel delivery tax.
    And Land Value Tax.
    It's like audio PB
    I quite like the reply to the traditional objection:

    "But I'm asset rich and cash poor."

    "The proper term for someone who is asset rich is ... RICH."
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 7,806
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Eabhal said:

    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.

    They are now talking about betting tax.
    Now they are on to a parcel delivery tax.
    And Land Value Tax.
    It's like audio PB
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,266
    Joe Root spills one on the boundary.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,130
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigelb said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    And Hamilton quickest in FP2.
    That actually pains me.

    All I can think is why the feck is he leaving this awesome Merc for the clown show that is Ferrari?
    The red car that’s a massive 0.103 seconds behind him?

    Anyway, doesn’t everyone dream of driving a Ferrari before they turn 40?
  • MuesliMuesli Posts: 196
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    It’s telling that the people shrieking and clutching at their twinset and pearls about Sir Keir moving a painting had fewer qualms about a recent predecessor and his mistress wife borrowing a small fortune off a government-appointed BBC bigwig/Tory donor to undertake a lavish Downing Street redecoration that even Donald Trump would’ve considered gaudy.

    How embarrassing it would be for a national newspaper if it were to run a shrill front page article castigating SKS for his modest interior redesign at No 10 while employing Laurence Llewellyn-Boris as a leading columnist.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415
    MattW said:

    This is quite an interesting little story about something that has not been a prominent political question for a few years. Badger cull to be ended by a vaccination (for badgers) programme by the end of the first term, with research on vaccines (for cows) continuing.

    Cow culling cost is currently £100m approx per annum.

    I didn't think that was coming this quickly. It had a walk on part in the manifesto.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qg52r7jzxo

    It should end sooner.
    Recent evidence using gene sequencing to identify TB infection (rather than the unreliable "skin test" in current use) indicates a fairly high level of previously undetected infection in the British herd. It's fairly likely that the whole decades long badger cull debate was almost irrelevant to the problem.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415
    Q: Trump is sharing QAnon statements and misogynistic memes. Do you support that?

    Vance: That is how you lift people up
    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1829510196676190528
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Sandpit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigelb said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    And Hamilton quickest in FP2.
    That actually pains me.

    All I can think is why the feck is he leaving this awesome Merc for the clown show that is Ferrari?
    The red car that’s a massive 0.103 seconds behind him?

    Anyway, doesn’t everyone dream of driving a Ferrari before they turn 40?
    I drove my first Ferrari at 24.

    I turn 46 next month, I think I am going through the male menopause.

    But the current Ferrari team always manage to screw up at some point during the weekend.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,452
    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    This is quite an interesting little story about something that has not been a prominent political question for a few years. Badger cull to be ended by a vaccination (for badgers) programme by the end of the first term, with research on vaccines (for cows) continuing.

    Cow culling cost is currently £100m approx per annum.

    I didn't think that was coming this quickly. It had a walk on part in the manifesto.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qg52r7jzxo

    It should end sooner.
    Recent evidence using gene sequencing to identify TB infection (rather than the unreliable "skin test" in current use) indicates a fairly high level of previously undetected infection in the British herd. It's fairly likely that the whole decades long badger cull debate was almost irrelevant to the problem.
    Pagan2 said:

    FPT

    Fairliered said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Eabhal said:

    MattW said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    Cookie said:

    Foxy said:

    Cookie said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    Luckyguy1983 said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    Considering that ultra processed foods make up about 60% of calories consumed in this country and that percentage increases for children and people in poorer areas, the UK government has to do something to make the population aware that their food choices are killing them.
    The "food" industry bears full responsibility for the obesity epidemic, and are as evil as the tobacco companies.
    Sadly, we're too far down the hole to make healthy eating affordable for the masses, so we're fucked.

    I understand the book about UPF is very good, but I think oversimplifying the concept misses the point. It is not the case that the less processing you do to something the better it is for you. Vegetables' goodness is often better absorbed when the vegetable is cooked. The fat soluble vitamins in many vegetables needs to be accompanied by fat - hence we put butter on our carrots and dressing on our salad. Cabbage is better for you when fermented. These are all food processes.
    I absolutely agree with you. Processed food is more than acceptable. Humans have Processed food for thousands of years and without it, humans wouldn't be at the top of the tree now. All food is Processed in some way.
    What I'm arguing against is the industrial manufacture of food using unheard of and often poorly regulated chemicals and fats, gums and sweeteners. Those are the ones that suppress and overide the body's natural systems.
    I saw an interesting map recently: the UK consumption of sugar is on the low side compared to European averages. Clearly this is just one measure, but I'd always thought this quite a good proxy for quality of diet.



    My guess is that a big part of our problem is lifestyle, and car-dependency. You don't see many fatties in Denmark or the Netherlands.
    But it's only a guess, and no doubt the answer is complex.
    The Dutch are particularly interesting, as one of the few countries that rival us in terms of unhealthy traditional diet.

    You can get away with it if you do enough cycling.
    Dutch cycling culture is quite interesting. It is quite different from ours. It is almost all on knackered old bikes at speeds barely more than running pace. Which, in generalised journey cost terms - taking into account the cost of time, the cost of your bike, the faff time in getting it out and securing it (which is much lower in a bike which costs £100 than £1000, because you care about it less), the time taken to shower after cycling really fast, etc - works out rather better.
    Old maids, mist, holy communion, isn't it? Quite a lot of cycling is like that, even in the UK. But it doesn't help the debate that the more visible manifestations are clad in lycra and aggressively going fast. (Because in too many places, aggression is the only way to survive.)
    Huge numbers of people in the UK do not cycle or walk because they perceive the roads to be a dangerous environment, where they will be threatened, bullied and abused. The figures are startling.
    In urban areas I think storage is at least as big an issue too. There are only 2,400 secure cycle storage spots in Edinburgh, for about 300,000 people living in flats.
    You need one of these:


    Typical cyclist. Blocking the train doorway! 😉
    Just do what sensible people do....;.train doors open chuck it onto the platform
    No, no: simply place it quietly against the platform canopy support pillar, and depart.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,266
    Esther McVey MP is getting criticised for this.

    "Esther McVey
    @EstherMcVey1

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a communist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

    Pertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban

    7:20 PM · Aug 29, 2024
    6.4M Views"

    https://x.com/EstherMcVey1/status/1829222646317265152
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,349
    Andy_JS said:

    Esther McVey MP is getting criticised for this.

    "Esther McVey
    @EstherMcVey1

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a communist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

    Pertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban

    7:20 PM · Aug 29, 2024
    6.4M Views"

    https://x.com/EstherMcVey1/status/1829222646317265152

    Yeah, banning smoking is clearly as evil as persecution and genocide.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,137
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    That what most people do these days, methinks.

    Pubs that encourage let alone permit patrons to smoke out in their "garden" are sending a message - via smoke signal! - that that they do NOT want your business of most passers by.

    At least that's my impression - am I wrong?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,405
    Andy_JS said:

    Esther McVey MP is getting criticised for this.

    "Esther McVey
    @EstherMcVey1

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a communist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

    Pertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban

    7:20 PM · Aug 29, 2024
    6.4M Views"

    https://x.com/EstherMcVey1/status/1829222646317265152

    I refer the Hon. Gentleman to my previous answer.

    Had anyone written a poem starting "They came for the people wearing rainbow lanyards", that would have been crass and offensive too.

    But honestly. You don't get to do a speech saying you would like to ban rainbow lanyards and then pose as standing up for freedom. Pick. A. Lane.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    So, you want to enforce your personal preference on everyone else by law?

    Anyway, your post made me smile: it's just reflexive defence of anything Starmer does by his fanboys. Same with the likers too.

    It's cognitive dissonance regardless of how crap the idea is. He could tax toilets and you'd still defend him, on the grounds that it was quite right given how they overload the sewers, and there is a water funding crisis.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415
    Did any PBer dabble in DJT stock ?

    Trump can sell shares from Sept 20th.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    Muesli said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    It’s telling that the people shrieking and clutching at their twinset and pearls about Sir Keir moving a painting had fewer qualms about a recent predecessor and his mistress wife borrowing a small fortune off a government-appointed BBC bigwig/Tory donor to undertake a lavish Downing Street redecoration that even Donald Trump would’ve considered gaudy.

    How embarrassing it would be for a national newspaper if it were to run a shrill front page article castigating SKS for his modest interior redesign at No 10 while employing Laurence Llewellyn-Boris as a leading columnist.
    That was then, this is now, SKS is PM and it is the duty of all responsible and impartial commentator to point out his shortcomings.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    Muesli said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ah another terrible backlash for Starmer.

    Was it acceptable or unacceptable for Keir Starmer to have Margaret Thatcher's portrait removed from her former study in Downing Street?

    Acceptable: 45%
    Unacceptable: 36%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829542362265387114

    It’s telling that the people shrieking and clutching at their twinset and pearls about Sir Keir moving a painting had fewer qualms about a recent predecessor and his mistress wife borrowing a small fortune off a government-appointed BBC bigwig/Tory donor to undertake a lavish Downing Street redecoration that even Donald Trump would’ve considered gaudy.

    How embarrassing it would be for a national newspaper if it were to run a shrill front page article castigating SKS for his modest interior redesign at No 10 while employing Laurence Llewellyn-Boris as a leading columnist.
    That's b/s. SKS moving the painting was both pathetic and hilarious, as were some of the defences on here. I was also someone who said that Johnson would be a poor PM *before* he took power.
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,432
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Eabhal said:

    Interesting piece on urban trees on Radio 4 at the mo.

    They are now talking about betting tax.
    Now they are on to a parcel delivery tax.
    Dressed up as a plan to ‘save the high street’ by any chance ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415
    Stuartinromford said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Esther McVey MP is getting criticised for this.

    "Esther McVey
    @EstherMcVey1

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a communist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

    Pertinent words re Starmer’s smoking ban

    7:20 PM · Aug 29, 2024
    6.4M Views"

    https://x.com/EstherMcVey1/status/1829222646317265152

    I refer the Hon. Gentleman to my previous answer.

    Had anyone written a poem starting "They came for the people wearing rainbow lanyards", that would have been crass and offensive too.

    But honestly. You don't get to do a speech saying you would like to ban rainbow lanyards and then pose as standing up for freedom. Pick. A. Lane.
    Rephrasing the poem is a fairly unfunny, but common, and entirely permissible meme.

    Directly quoting it in the context of a minor smoking ban ?
    Pistachio is generous.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    It would also be of interest to see the result amongst people who regularly use pubs; those most affected by the law change.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 50,526
    Scott_xP said:

    @thewayafter

    First they called Esther McVey a fucking idiot
    And I did not speak out
    Because she was a fucking idiot.

    Did you call out anyone for calling Brexiteers Nazis over the last few years?
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,432
    LNER strikes are off as the union and the Train operator come to an agreement.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigelb said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CatMan said:

    Bashir gets a wicket after taking part in the Bell riots (apologies to the 99% of you who won't get that)

    Cricket and Deep Space Nine in one post!

    My cup well and truly runneth over.
    And Hamilton quickest in FP2.
    That actually pains me.

    All I can think is why the feck is he leaving this awesome Merc for the clown show that is Ferrari?
    People were saying similar when he left McLaren for Mercedes. It turned out he moved at pretty much the perfect time. He and his team will have a much better idea of both Mercedes' and Ferrari's future plans than you or I do.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    Taz said:

    LNER strikes are off as the union and the Train operator come to an agreement.

    As the train operator is government-owned, you mean the union and the government. ;)
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 27,525
    edited August 30
    I'm actually astonished that as many as 36% thought it was unacceptable to move the painting. The Tories would be very happy with those numbers. I don't think it's particularly unacceptable - I think it's a pathetic pity-f***k to traditional Labour supporters, but not really unacceptable.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    The hideous 'sweet' smell of vapes on the High Street is much more of an issue atm for me.

    Incidentally, people in our village are complaining that neighbours are smoking cannabis outside in the street and garden, and it is coming in through open windows (because of summer...).
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,019
    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    From 420 years ago:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Counterblaste_to_Tobacco
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,452
    Luckyguy1983 said:

    I'm actually astonished that as many as 36% thought it was unacceptable to move the painting. The Tories would be very happy with those numbers. I don't think it's particularly unacceptable - I think it's a pathetic pity-f***k to traditional Labour supporters, but not really unacceptable.

    Puzzled by the hysteria on here. The official paintings of PMs are on the staircase. This portrait is not official; it's not pusser's issue, but some gift. New occupants redecorate ... and indeed the very acceptance of the portrait originally meant something else was bumped.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,452
    mercator said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
    Presumably banging CGT up to 20/40/45% is preferable?
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,019
    mercator said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
    You do realise that moving a painting isn't a major policy initiative.

    It's as if someone had a cup of tea with Starmer and reported that he put the milk in second. You're not bothered which order he puts the milk in, but you are upset that he can't think of anything more interesting or exciting to do?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    JosiasJessop said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    It would also be of interest to see the result amongst people who regularly use pubs; those most affected by the law change.
    I'd also like to see the results of the staff who have to deal with the second hand smoke.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    So who are we bombing right now?

    If the country's finances are so bad, then why are we still spending £50 billion a year on the military?

    If there's no money left, why are we spending £12,000 a minute on nuclear weapons?

    If we can afford to bomb people, why can't we afford to feed people?

    https://x.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1829457351708991741
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    Carnyx said:

    mercator said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
    Presumably banging CGT up to 20/40/45% is preferable?
    That's dismal Rach's job. What a pair.

    And if she had had the same boxing coach as me she would know a bit more about not telegraphing your punches.
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,349
    edited August 30
    Deleted!
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So who are we bombing right now?

    If the country's finances are so bad, then why are we still spending £50 billion a year on the military?

    If there's no money left, why are we spending £12,000 a minute on nuclear weapons?

    If we can afford to bomb people, why can't we afford to feed people?

    https://x.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1829457351708991741

    How does he propose to sort out Tel Aviv without Trident?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,497
    England about to lose their second wicket with 22 on the board, as Ollie Pope comes out to bat.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 27,525
    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Hooray!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,349
    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Hello!
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,601
    mercator said:

    Carnyx said:

    mercator said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
    Presumably banging CGT up to 20/40/45% is preferable?
    That's dismal Rach's job. What a pair.

    And if she had had the same boxing coach as me she would know a bit more about not telegraphing your punches.
    Rachel will probably just go straight in with 50% CGT!

    Welcome to Labour. Tough on enterprise. Tough on innovative risk taking.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Overwhelming number of Brits want pissheads banned from airports.

    Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has proposed a two-drink per passenger limit at airports

    Support: 62%

    Oppose: 24%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1828845526168518773
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    mercator said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    eek said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    FPT

    Just passed The Cricketeers. A popular pub, near Petersfield.

    Massive blackboard sign on the main road outside. It reads: "Watch out, the fun police are out to get you."

    Cut-through. This government might plumb new depths of unpopularity. And rapidly.

    Depends I quite often avoid pubs where smokers are outside because I don't want to suffer their smoking..
    Fortunately pro cancer Brits are in a minority.

    Britons tend to support the proposed smoking ban in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

    Strong support: 35%
    Tend to support: 23%
    Tend to oppose: 17%
    Strong oppose: 18%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1829172165272580618
    Government by opinion poll is a poor way to conduct policy.

    People might just be declaring they don't much care for smoking here, but they don't like the idea of government policing what people do and where they do it either.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Starmer mini-polls everything he does. He's a tedious tactical triangulator and, now he no longer has Sunak to triangulate against, he needs to anchor his moves against something.

    He's in for a shock. And his tanking government approval ratings already show that.
    Well quite. Neither moving Maggie nor banning fags gets me particularly upset, it's the fact that he can't think of anything more interesting and exciting to do to define the mood and aspirations of his government in its first 8 weeks. He'll be introducing COVID testing shortly; winter flu season is on its way and you can't be too careful.
    Yes, and I wouldn't move a portrait of Churchill from the Churchill Room, nor one of Attlee from the Attlee Room or one of Thatcher from the Thatcher Room. And neither would their pictures bother me.

    But, I'm not Starmer.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,026
    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Longer than I thought, to be fair. You held out a few weeks.

    Welcome back.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    edited August 30
    Of all the fish-wrapper stories about Labour today - the painting, Rayner clubbing in Ibiza (*), smoking outdoors - Phillips' is the most interesting one, and perhaps the most troublesome.

    If she is right in why that the doctor prioritised her, then imagine being a Jewish patient in that hospital. It was an incredibly naive and stupid thing for her to admit. It needs investigating by the hospital, even if that is fairly pointless, because it is an *incredibly* bad look for them.

    If she is wrong, then it is more than a little egocentric of her. "I'm special because I voted correctly, and the good people see that!!!!"

    (*) Which I have zero issue with. People need to take holidays sometime...

    (Edit for my own stupidity)
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,200
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So who are we bombing right now?

    If the country's finances are so bad, then why are we still spending £50 billion a year on the military?

    If there's no money left, why are we spending £12,000 a minute on nuclear weapons?

    If we can afford to bomb people, why can't we afford to feed people?

    https://x.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1829457351708991741

    Russia, via arms to Ukraine. Suspect that's what he's alluding to.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,405
    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    Ashtray on the table, so it isn't Starmer's Britain, amirite?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,200
    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    Cayman islands?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Overwhelming number of Brits want pissheads banned from airports.

    Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has proposed a two-drink per passenger limit at airports

    Support: 62%

    Oppose: 24%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1828845526168518773

    It’s never going to happen because it’s

    1. Unenforceable

    2. Ridiculous

    And

    3. It wouid send Ryanair bankrupt fast as passengers went to airports that didn’t enforce it and also don’t give a fuck about Ryanair coz they don’t have Ryanair routes
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,200
    carnforth said:

    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    Cayman islands?
    Or Monaco. Appear to have self-doxxed your room number too.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    You're unconscious on a South American hillside after taking too much drinks and drugs; your friend has Od'd in a ditch, and the last twenty or thirty years - and all of PB - have all been a Ewing-style hallucinatory dream.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,335
    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Well, hello there.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,254
    JosiasJessop said:

    Of all the fish-wrapper stories about Labour today - the painting, Rayner clubbing in Ibiza (*), smoking outdoors - Reeves' is the most interesting one, and perhaps the most troublesome.

    If she is right in why that the doctor prioritised her, then imagine being a Jewish patient in that hospital. It was an incredibly naive and stupid thing for her to admit. It needs investigating by the hospital, even if that is fairly pointless, because it is an *incredibly* bad look for them.

    If she is wrong, then it is more than a little egocentric of her. "I'm special because I voted correctly, and the good people see that!!!!"

    (*) Which I have zero issue with. People need to take holidays sometime...

    I think you mean Jess Phillips, not Reeves.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 41,293
    Northern_Al said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Of all the fish-wrapper stories about Labour today - the painting, Rayner clubbing in Ibiza (*), smoking outdoors - Reeves' is the most interesting one, and perhaps the most troublesome.

    If she is right in why that the doctor prioritised her, then imagine being a Jewish patient in that hospital. It was an incredibly naive and stupid thing for her to admit. It needs investigating by the hospital, even if that is fairly pointless, because it is an *incredibly* bad look for them.

    If she is wrong, then it is more than a little egocentric of her. "I'm special because I voted correctly, and the good people see that!!!!"

    (*) Which I have zero issue with. People need to take holidays sometime...

    I think you mean Jess Phillips, not Reeves.
    Apols. You are, of course, correct.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 52,899
    JosiasJessop said:

    Of all the fish-wrapper stories about Labour today - the painting, Rayner clubbing in Ibiza (*), smoking outdoors - Reeves' is the most interesting one, and perhaps the most troublesome.

    If she is right in why that the doctor prioritised her, then imagine being a Jewish patient in that hospital. It was an incredibly naive and stupid thing for her to admit. It needs investigating by the hospital, even if that is fairly pointless, because it is an *incredibly* bad look for them.

    If she is wrong, then it is more than a little egocentric of her. "I'm special because I voted correctly, and the good people see that!!!!"

    (*) Which I have zero issue with. People need to take holidays sometime...

    Jess Phillips surely. But yes, troubling
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,335
    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    Gotta be one of the dodgy islands where tax exiles and drug warlords hide out?
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,689
    Leon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Overwhelming number of Brits want pissheads banned from airports.

    Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has proposed a two-drink per passenger limit at airports

    Support: 62%

    Oppose: 24%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1828845526168518773

    It’s never going to happen because it’s

    1. Unenforceable

    2. Ridiculous

    And

    3. It wouid send Ryanair bankrupt fast as passengers went to airports that didn’t enforce it and also don’t give a fuck about Ryanair coz they don’t have Ryanair routes
    I don't see why it's unenforceable. They just have to make you scan your boarding pass when ordering.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,266
    Hello Leon.
    Welcome back.
  • mercatormercator Posts: 614
    Leon said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Leon said:

    Greetings


    Welcome back.
    Thanks. I did say I’d pop back when travelling to post annoying photos

    Can anyone guess where I am?

    The photo is generic but here’s a clue: I’m about 3 minutes walk from possibly the largest concentration of dubious wealth in the world
    Padmanabhaswamy
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,200
    Driver said:

    Leon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Overwhelming number of Brits want pissheads banned from airports.

    Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary has proposed a two-drink per passenger limit at airports

    Support: 62%

    Oppose: 24%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/1828845526168518773

    It’s never going to happen because it’s

    1. Unenforceable

    2. Ridiculous

    And

    3. It wouid send Ryanair bankrupt fast as passengers went to airports that didn’t enforce it and also don’t give a fuck about Ryanair coz they don’t have Ryanair routes
    I don't see why it's unenforceable. They just have to make you scan your boarding pass when ordering.
    Would reduce Lounge pass sales, unless they're excluded.
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