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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    Labour gain Spen Valley
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,531

    I am extremely happy but I am also disappointed in the share of the vote being poor. Lots for Labour to do.

    Share of vote, and also the turnout %?
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,116

    Tories still have only 84 seats so far!

    con under 141 is still 1.16
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    edited July 5
    LDs gain Frome and E Somerset and Tewkesbury
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,650

    BBC says the majority is to be 170 again :/

    Where? Linky plz?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,597
    tlg86 said:

    Bloody hell:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001366

    Mid Sussex:

    LD - 49%
    Lab - 22%
    Reform - 14%
    Con - 10%

    Those numbers are wrong. It's:

    LD 40
    Con 27
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    edited July 5
    SNP hold Moray West and Arbroath
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,239
    Spen Valley: good 👍
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    HYUFD said:

    Conservatives hold Romford and Hornchurch and Upminster, Tatton, S Shropshire and E Hampshire and S Suffolk and Salisbury

    Nick Palmer missed out by 1,943 votes.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001292
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,184
    Blimey, just woken up. If I'm reading it right Reform have the same number of MPs as the pro-Gaza single issue MPs group. That's something of a deflated balloon for Farage isn't it?
  • Wouldn't it be funny if Labour get the same majority as Blair.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    Andy_JS said:

    Tonbridge -> Con hold

    Con (Tugendhat) 20,517
    Lab 9,351
    Grn 7,596
    Ref 7,548
    LD 4,234
    SDP 156
    Ind Alliance Kent 926

    Quite a contrast to Tunbridge Wells
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    edited July 5
    BBC projection updated

    Tories back to 136 again

    Lab 408
    Lab 136
    LD 66
    SNP 8
    PC 4

    My forecast was Lab 407, Con 127, LD 70
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,725
    MikeL said:

    tlg86 said:

    Bloody hell:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001366

    Mid Sussex:

    LD - 49%
    Lab - 22%
    Reform - 14%
    Con - 10%

    Those numbers are wrong. It's:

    LD 40
    Con 27
    Tories -41%? WTF?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,028
    Andy_JS said:

    BBC projection updated

    Tories back to 136 again

    Lab 408
    Lab 136

    Errr…
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    North East Herts has gone Labour, by about 2,000 votes. The Reform effect at work again - this seat survived the Blair landslides with room to spare.

    The boundaries have changed over time, of course, but the last time my town had a Labour MP it was Shirley Williams representing the old Hitchin constituency in the 1970 Parliament. It's quite something.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,544
    Andy_JS said:

    BBC projection updated

    Tories back to 136 again

    Lab 408
    Lab 136

    Let's hope RCS didn't commit to that bike, eh?
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,149
    edited July 5
    Have the BBC updated the projection so many times before?

    I feel like they could have just left it alone.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,597
    edited July 5
    BBC ARE USELESS.

    They have Con Mid Sussex candidate mis-stated by 10,000

    BBC says 4,474

    Correct figure is 14,474

    How long till they fix it?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,725
    Rumours swirling that Truss has lost, in third place in her seat
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,356
    edited July 5
    maxh said:

    Blimey, just woken up. If I'm reading it right Reform have the same number of MPs as the pro-Gaza single issue MPs group. That's something of a deflated balloon for Farage isn't it?

    To be fair, Adam in Leicester South campaigned on quite a few issues, not just Gaza.

    Interesting to see that Liz Kendall did much better in Leicester West than Lab did in South or East
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,028
    IanB2 said:

    Rumours swirling that Truss has lost, in third place in her seat

    That would be a terrible tragedy.

    For her.

    Not for the rest of us.
  • It's like we've just teleported back to the early 2000s but taken the Lib Dems from 2005. Strange world.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,122
    First rule of stats: if something looks interesting, it's probably wrong.

    But on a night like to night, it's hard to apply that rule.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    LD vote share change = 0%

    Estimated seat change = +58

    They should change their symbol from a bird to a paddleboard
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,725
    MikeL said:

    BBC ARE USELESS.

    They have Con Mid Sussex candidate mis-stated by 10,000

    BBC says 4,474

    Correct figure is 14,474

    How long till they fix it?

    FIFY
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    I am surprisingly optimistic. This Labour majority is built on sand, and I think it will be easier to bully them from the left than for them to appeal to right wing voters. If Labour had kept the popular stuff (renationalisation of water and rail, for example - that even most Tory voters like the idea of) they would have likely done much better. This result is a clear dismissal of the Tory party, but not a grand endorsement of Starmer’s cynical politics of thin gruel.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,356

    IanB2 said:

    Rumours swirling that Truss has lost, in third place in her seat

    It was the deep state.....
    Yeah, a deeply unpopular state!
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,854
    Sturgeon's decision to be live on ITV during these results not looking like a genius move now.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    edited July 5
    Cons hold Ruislip and Rutland and North Bedfordshire, SW Devon and Kingswinford and Thirsk and Melton and East Grinstead
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,597
    Well done BBC - Mid Sussex fixed!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    LDs gain Esher and Walton
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,725
    Esher LD
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    edited July 5
    Labour gain Macclesfield and Monmouthshire and Bury St Edmunds and Chipping Barnet and Crewe and Nantwich
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    Labour vote down in Wales, unchanged in England, only up overall because of Scotland.

    John Curtice.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,238
    MikeL said:

    BBC ARE USELESS.

    They have Con Mid Sussex candidate mis-stated by 10,000

    BBC says 4,474

    Correct figure is 14,474

    How long till they fix it?

    They don't appear to have noticed North Herefordshire on the ticker either - still showing Green 1.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    Monmouthshire goes Lab. The Welsh Tories have been obliterated.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    Con 0 seats in Wales
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    Andy_JS said:

    Labour vote down in Wales, unchanged in England, only up overall because of Scotland.

    John Curtice.

    Its not just up in Scotland, its up 20%.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009

    Andy_JS said:

    Labour vote down in Wales, unchanged in England, only up overall because of Scotland.

    John Curtice.

    Its not just up in Scotland, its up 20%.
    Precisely.
  • MisterBedfordshireMisterBedfordshire Posts: 2,252
    maxh said:

    Blimey, just woken up. If I'm reading it right Reform have the same number of MPs as the pro-Gaza single issue MPs group. That's something of a deflated balloon for Farage isn't it?

    4. And all senior key personnel not nutters who dudnt expect to win before 10pm last night Suspect farage is actually quite relieved.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,030
    FF43 said:

    The best thing about British democracy is when the actual head of government has to stand in a leisure centre at 5 am beside a guy with a bin on his head to find out if he still has a job.

    https://bsky.app/profile/iaincoleman.bsky.social/post/3kwizht3xnh2k

    I like the fact that they pre-order the furniture removal van and have it waiting outside Downing Street from 8am on the day after the election.

    Very symbolic
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,239
    How many more Gaza Independents will we get? 2 in London's East End, 4 in Birmingham and Bradford to go.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,580
    Multiple independents winning? Hiw interesting and positive.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    SNP manifesto: vote SNP for Scotland to become an independent country

    Scottish voters: no thank you
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,531
    100 seats left to declare.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,856
    edited July 5

    Tewkesbury - LD Gain. :smile:

    In the end, it wasn't even close.

    Well done PtP! And thanks! 😀
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,580
    JamesF said:

    Waveney Valley goes Green
    Brighton Pavilion Green hold

    They have surprised me, well done.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    Tories lost Peterborough but only by 118 votes.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001425
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,238
    GIN1138 said:

    If this is Sir John's swansong, he's signing off on a great prediction from a very difficult and unusual election.

    I do agree but I think his call (a few minutes ago) that Reform swung the election is misguided. That's only true if you assume everyone who voted Reform would have voted Conservative otherwise. I don't believe that for a minute. Many would not have voted and plenty would have voted Labour.

    Labour would still have won even if Farage was still palling around with Trump in the US.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,580
    pigeon said:

    SNP manifesto: vote SNP for Scotland to become an independent country

    Scottish voters: no thank you

    Indy is not dead, but hopefully it will rest for a bit.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    JC - So far, the Conservatives have lost 173 seats. In 124 of these, the Reform vote was greater than the margin of the Conservatives' defeat. Of these seats, 99 were won by Labour, 19 by the Lib Dems, two by nationalists, and four by Reform themselves. Of course, not everybody who voted Reform would have otherwise voted Conservative, but they most certainly voted Conservative in 2019.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,678
    Guildford incoming. Recount was verification issue.. Don't have any idea of result though.
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    Greens look on course for 4 of their 4 targets


  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    Greens gain Waveney Valley. Their strategy has worked.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    JC - One feature of tonight's results is how the advances that the Conservatives secured in Leave-voting areas after the EU referendum, most notably in 2019, have been entirely lost. Compared with 2019, support for the Conservatives is down by 12 points in seats where less than 45% voted Leave.

    In contrast, support for the party is down by 27 points in seats where more than 65% voted Leave. However, the pattern of losses in Conservative support since 2015 - before the EU referendum - is more or less the same everywhere.

    Support for the party is down by 12 points, compared with 2015, in seats where less than 45% voted Leave, while it is down by nine points where more than 65% voted Leave.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,580
    Andy_JS said:

    Tories lost Peterborough but only by 118 votes.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001425

    Ynys Mon another small drop I see.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974

    GIN1138 said:

    If this is Sir John's swansong, he's signing off on a great prediction from a very difficult and unusual election.

    I do agree but I think his call (a few minutes ago) that Reform swung the election is misguided. That's only true if you assume everyone who voted Reform would have voted Conservative otherwise. I don't believe that for a minute. Many would not have voted and plenty would have voted Labour.

    Labour would still have won even if Farage was still palling around with Trump in the US.
    Reform got Labour a landslide, Starmer would probably only have scraped home to a UK wide majority otherwise helped by Labour gains in Scotland
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,769
    Lol the DUP have lost a seat to their right.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,580
    pigeon said:

    LD vote share change = 0%

    Estimated seat change = +58

    They should change their symbol from a bird to a paddleboard

    FPTP, though they do not like it, can help as well as hinder.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    edited July 5
    pigeon said:

    Greens gain Waveney Valley. Their strategy has worked.

    Pleased that prediction came off.

    Still waiting for North Herefordshire?
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,184

    maxh said:

    Blimey, just woken up. If I'm reading it right Reform have the same number of MPs as the pro-Gaza single issue MPs group. That's something of a deflated balloon for Farage isn't it?

    4. And all senior key personnel not nutters who dudnt expect to win before 10pm last night Suspect farage is actually quite relieved.
    Good point
    kle4 said:

    JamesF said:

    Waveney Valley goes Green
    Brighton Pavilion Green hold

    They have surprised me, well done.
    So Greens also have the same number of MPs as Reform? That's a result I'm delighted about.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    Labour gain St Austell and Hitchin
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,217
    What sort of government would we have, had we had PR for this election ?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,188

    Another BBC forecast update:

    Labour: 405 seats
    Conservative: 154 seats
    Liberal Democrat: 56 seats
    Scottish National Party: 6 seats
    Reform UK: 4 seats
    Other 25

    Completely random BBC forecasts tonight.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    SNP gain Aberdeenshire N
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    edited July 5
    Brighton Kemptown & Peacehaven -> Lab hold

    Lab 17,893
    Green 7,997
    Con 8,230
    LD 3,949
    Ind 1,833
    SDP 784
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,650
    Can somebody please post a link to the BBC projection plz?
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,238
    HYUFD said:

    SNP gain Aberdeenshire N

    @RochdalePioneers we always believed in you
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,037
    Dross dumped
  • Economist reckons Labour will have a majority of 174, still time to match Tony's...
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,813
    Andy_JS said:

    pigeon said:

    Greens gain Waveney Valley. Their strategy has worked.

    Pleased that prediction came off.

    Still waiting for North Herefordshire?
    No, already in the bag for them
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,769
    ANME an SNP gain !!
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    Nigelb said:

    What sort of government would we have, had we had PR for this election ?

    A different one than we’re getting
  • EScrymgeourEScrymgeour Posts: 141
    DRoss gone
  • Despite all of the noise, Reform have quite badly under-performed no? At least compared to the Lib Dems and Greens.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    Nigelb said:

    What sort of government would we have, had we had PR for this election ?

    Labour, LD and Green coalition most likely for now
  • AramintaMoonbeamQCAramintaMoonbeamQC Posts: 3,854
    DRoss loss.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    edited July 5
    Cons hold E Wiltshire and Weald of Kent, Lab hold Bethnal Green
  • That Scotland result is seismic for Labour.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,347
    edited July 5

    Despite all of the noise, Reform have quite badly under-performed no? At least compared to the Lib Dems and Greens.

    Currently 15% of the vote share. Which is about what the polls suggested, maybe 1-2% under?
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    Still time for Star Trek to be proved right and Irish Unification to happen in 2024 - SF looking to be the largest party in NI
  • MisterBedfordshireMisterBedfordshire Posts: 2,252
    Foxy said:

    kle4 said:

    JamesF said:

    Waveney Valley goes Green
    Brighton Pavilion Green hold

    They have surprised me, well done.
    4 Green seats but nowhere near the media frenzy that Reform get.
    Nowhere near the votes reform got either
  • SteveSSteveS Posts: 167
    Aberdeenshire north to SNP
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,188
    .
    HYUFD said:

    SNP gain Aberdeenshire N

    Reform on 14%. In Scotland!
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,239
    Huddersfield close than I thought.

    I called correctly as a Green second place, but thought it would be in the teens:

    Lab 37.6 (-13.8)
    Green 26.3 (+22.5)
    Con 16.3 (-20.5)
    RefUK 15.4 (+12)
    LD 4.3 (-0.7)

    No Ind, so Green got a strong student plus Gaza vote.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,009
    Douglas Ross loses ANME.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,974
    LDs gain Henley and Thame
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,544
    Andy_JS said:

    Douglas Ross loses ANME.

    How did @RochdalePioneers do?
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