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IanB2 said:

Anabobazina said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

SandyRentool said:

People were expecting an autumn election.

Looking outside, it appears that we have one.

I want to cut the grass but it's too wet obviously so checked the weather forecast. Rain and highs of 16 consistently for the next seven days.

Joy.

It’s lovely down here

Same here.

Contrarians must get contrarian weather.

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more.

I still think Amazon or Apple will end up buying Spotify at some point.

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

eek said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more.

I still think Amazon or Apple will end up buying Spotify at some point.

Why Apple Music is highly profitable as is Amazon Music. And a triopoly is better than a Duopoly so no Government would allow the merger...

Do we know Apple Music is profitable? They don't release the numbers - but they unlike Spotify can be subsidised by selling hardware like most of Apple's services.

FrancisUrquhart said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more.

I still think Amazon or Apple will end up buying Spotify at some point.

Spotify have a big problem. The record companies have now decided that streaming is the only game in town, and willing to licence their catalogues to any service who can pay. So there is no exclusivity, no massive individual reason to choose Spotify over Apple Music.

That is why they went for the exclusive podcast route, but it seems to have failed.

As a result all the music streaming services are basically the same price, same catalogue. The problem for Spotify is an Apple or Amazon can wait them out. Spotify had first mover advantage, but Apple can slow draw customers away with their bundled offers and they don't need to make money on music streaming anytime soon.

Andy_JS said:

New Statesman is currently predicting that Nick Palmer, Reform candidate in Hornchurch & Upminster, will be elected.

https://sotn.newstatesman.com/2024/05/britainpredicts
https://election.pressassociation.com/general-election/general-election-2024/

Nigelb said:

Leon said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FPT.

Roger said:

boulay said:

The Mail’s editorial comment is saying what many of us thought it would. Don’t allow a “Starmageddon”, seriously don't vote reform, the Tories have actually done well under the circumstances. Labour will win but vote Tory to ensure a proper opposition to stop the worst of Starmer is a summary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13581819/Tories-say-right-angry-partys-errors-dont-let-anger-blind-perils-Starmerism.html

The Sun will likely say exactly the same and I’m guessing the Times, Telegraph and Express too. “Its lost but you need to still vote Tory to rein in Labour”.

Interesting that those Tory Papers so openly admit their current irrelevance. Be interesting to see which of them are no longer around in their current form when the next election happens

Telegraph and Mail are profitable for starters, successfully moving to subscription model. Times is profitable as well.

I would say the biggest liability is Reach group i.e. Mirror. Mirror is irrelevant, and they bought all those regional newspapers that are failing.

The raverage age of the readership of the Telegraph must be close to 100. Its rumoured Sheikh Mansour wants to turn it into a City fanzine

I thought it was stuffed and has definitely gone downhill, but when we have discussed this previously have on here, have been reliably informed their move to paywall has gone surprisingly well and making money. 100 year olds don't generally know how to use ipads, so i think they have attracted those over who a tad younger than than that are capable of ipad usage.

In all seriousness It had quite a good film critic which worked for me and those who subscribed found something they wanted. The subscription was also cheap and easy to cancel and was sent online so the mechanics plus the price worked. Oddly enough I find the Guardian the most irritating. I just send an arbitrary amount of money at different times as requested but it still manages to behave like a market trader and do a big selling job before I can read anything

Its because the Guardian still struggling to make it all work in the modern landscape. Apparently they get a good chunk of their readership from online via US audience. For whatever reason they don't want to or aren't confident to go the full pay wall route, so they have gone the begging letter approach instead. If I was them, I would bite the bullet and go pay wall. Its works for Times, the NYT, the Athletic. People are willing to pay £5-10 a month for really good content.

I presume at some point we will get a Netflix / Spotify service for written content.

There’s also a lot of independents making serious bank from Substack.

Yes, some of those people are making far more than they ever would as a journalist with a mainstream publication.

I think the landscape is if you have expert knowledge and you can provide it in a format that is interesting and entertaining, people will pay. You aren't trying to target a market of millions like a old school newspaper, you are trying to target the 1,000s or 10,000s that are really interested in whatever niche it is you know about.

I have an American friend with a substack. I thought he was making beer money but we recently had a proper chat about it and he revealed he is making six figures. Incredible!

He’s only got about 2000 subscribers but they are willing to pay $5-10 a month

I’m very tempted to have a go. It would mean I quit PB. I can hear the moans of despair already

You should give it a go.
I'm pretty sure you'd find at least that many punters.

I am generous enough to forego the pleasure of your gratis musings. Though not without a small pang.

SandyRentool said:

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Just turned on the TV for the news.

BBC, Glastonbury.

Sky, Glastonbury.

Why do they get into such a wankfest over this every year?

The average viewer of a 24 hour news channel couldn't give a feck about a bunch of twats living in squalor for a week, and listening to bands they have never heard of.

And paying thousands of pound in order to do so.

I can fully accept the BBC wanting to televise the event so that music fans can watch.

But it is not news.

The news channels are not Smash Hits magazine.

eek said:

MisterBedfordshire said:

eek said:

MisterBedfordshire said:

DougSeal said:

Supporters of Reform on here. Assuming you want your “party” to control the executive and legislature does not the simple statement in the below link worry you about the democratic credentials of your man?

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/persons-with-significant-control

If a man controls a “party” (in this case a limited company of said man who owns 8 out of its 13 shares) which has a majority in the Commons I would imagine that the principle of pleasing the leader is becomes the imperative.

No I want them to get a toehold of a few MPs so that when Labour run into the sand and end up as unpopular as the Tories are now we will have an actually conservative party (which is far broader than Reform), shorn of libdem fifth columnists calling themselves centrists, willing to make the necessary reforms that Brexit now empowers Parliament to do.

1) Repeal ECHR membership.

2) Repeal Climate Change Act.

3) Repeal Equality Act and replace with bill of Rights (which will include measures to stop discrimination for whatever reason through measures similar to the common carrier legislation on Railways that stopped them refusing customers and stopped them charging different customers different amounts. (the common carrier legislation was the worlds first anti discrimination legislation)).

4) Abolish hate crime legislation and instead increase sentences on (non hate aggravated) offences to the levels of aggravated offences under hate crime legislation, with judges able to reduce them if mitigation applies.

5) Replace welfare system with contributory based welfare system. Min 5 years full NI contribtutions to get cover (unless child of contributor turning 18 in which case cover through parents for first five years). Transition period applies to avoid existing over 18 residents losing cover in first five years.

6) No NHS cover until 5 years full NI contributions unless cover through parents having such cover. Transition period as above.

7) All restrictions on migration dropped, however no enitlement to any state aid whatsoever for first five years.

If they do too well and get dozens of MPs it will be a disaster as all sorts of unsuitable people will get elected. This is a long game.

But stage 1 is a toehold and the Tories going the way of the Liberals in the 1920s.

5 and 6 should have been done in 2005 before the Eastern European countries were given access to freedom of movement.

But I would love to see how you could get any party to agree to point 7....

Sort out 5 and 6 and the problem goes away.

5 and 6 have already been sorted by Brexit. Now when you come to the UK regardless of whether you bring your wife and chidren you aren't getting benefits for a long time..

SandyRentool said:

Andy_JS said:

SandyRentool said:

Just turned on the TV for the news.

BBC, Glastonbury.

Sky, Glastonbury.

Why do they get into such a wankfest over this every year?

The average viewer of a 24 hour news channel couldn't give a feck about a bunch of twats living in squalor for a week, and listening to bands they have never heard of.

And paying thousands of pound in order to do so.

I can fully accept the BBC wanting to televise the event so that music fans can watch.

But it is not news.

The news channels are not Smash Hits magazine.

SandyRentool said:

Tweedledee said:

I have briskly voted. Won't know what to do with myself on Thursday

I'm going for a haircut on polling day.

"Something for the weekend sir?"

"Yes please - a Labour government!"

Leon said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

Yes. Look at that man with wild delusions, paranoia, and total loss of memory, plus insane hallucinations! He’s the ideal person to have control over America’s nukes!

boulay said:

Anabobazina said:

SandyRentool said:

Just turned on the TV for the news.

BBC, Glastonbury.

Sky, Glastonbury.

Why do they get into such a wankfest over this every year?

The average viewer of a 24 hour news channel couldn't give a feck about a bunch of twats living in squalor for a week, and listening to bands they have never heard of.

Another PBer who gets weirdly triggered by Glastonbury. It is the world’s biggest music festival. It is newsworthy.

It’s not in the top ten of biggest music festivals and not even the biggest in UK.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/27/glastonbury-biggest-music-festival-world-21113741/#:~:text=That would be Creamfields, which,arts festival in the world.

FrancisUrquhart said:

nova said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

nova said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FPT.

Roger said:

boulay said:

The Mail’s editorial comment is saying what many of us thought it would. Don’t allow a “Starmageddon”, seriously don't vote reform, the Tories have actually done well under the circumstances. Labour will win but vote Tory to ensure a proper opposition to stop the worst of Starmer is a summary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13581819/Tories-say-right-angry-partys-errors-dont-let-anger-blind-perils-Starmerism.html

The Sun will likely say exactly the same and I’m guessing the Times, Telegraph and Express too. “Its lost but you need to still vote Tory to rein in Labour”.

Interesting that those Tory Papers so openly admit their current irrelevance. Be interesting to see which of them are no longer around in their current form when the next election happens

Telegraph and Mail are profitable for starters, successfully moving to subscription model. Times is profitable as well.

I would say the biggest liability is Reach group i.e. Mirror. Mirror is irrelevant, and they bought all those regional newspapers that are failing.

The raverage age of the readership of the Telegraph must be close to 100. Its rumoured Sheikh Mansour wants to turn it into a City fanzine

I thought it was stuffed and has definitely gone downhill, but when we have discussed this previously have on here, have been reliably informed their move to paywall has gone surprisingly well and making money. 100 year olds don't generally know how to use ipads, so i think they have attracted those over who a tad younger than than that are capable of ipad usage.

In all seriousness It had quite a good film critic which worked for me and those who subscribed found something they wanted. The subscription was also cheap and easy to cancel and was sent online so the mechanics plus the price worked. Oddly enough I find the Guardian the most irritating. I just send an arbitrary amount of money at different times as requested but it still manages to behave like a market trader and do a big selling job before I can read anything

Its because the Guardian still struggling to make it all work in the modern landscape. Apparently they get a good chunk of their readership from online via US audience. For whatever reason they don't want to or aren't confident to go the full pay wall route, so they have gone the begging letter approach instead. If I was them, I would bite the bullet and go pay wall. Its works for Times, the NYT, the Athletic. People are willing to pay £5-10 a month for really good content.

I presume at some point we will get a Netflix / Spotify service for written content.

I assume with the Guardian, being owned by a Trust, that readership, and open access, is prized more highly than at a newspaper with an owner. So long as they're not going bust, and have the money to spend on journalism, they would want as many people to be able to read as possible, and for people who can't afford to pay, to still access the site.

They do also have paid access, which avoids the begging letter route.

As for Netflix/Spotify, wouldn't Readly and PressReader be those services?

I actually hadn't heard of Readly. But they are all the traditional magazines. I was thinking something bigger. Spotify is now basically an open platform for artists to upload their music to. At the moment we have numerous different bits and pieces, substack, newspapers, traditional magazines, new expert written content like an Athletic.

The reason everybody has Spotify or the couple of other services is it is now basically all music ever all in one place.

All music is big, but all writing is a lot bigger.

All TV and film would have been nice too, but I now have half a dozen services, which added together don't give me anything like the access to films that the old dvd by post system had.

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more. And as I say, this "expert" or "niche" thing is big. I think it is why some traditional magazines are still able to stand on their own, because they are seen as the expert, where as others are struggling / dying. I guess a good example is tech magazines or games, they are all struggling, because the magazines are basically trash. But people are more interested than ever and you get the mega YouTube sites for tech or games.

MisterBedfordshire said:

eek said:

MisterBedfordshire said:

eek said:

MisterBedfordshire said:

DougSeal said:

Supporters of Reform on here. Assuming you want your “party” to control the executive and legislature does not the simple statement in the below link worry you about the democratic credentials of your man?

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/persons-with-significant-control

If a man controls a “party” (in this case a limited company of said man who owns 8 out of its 13 shares) which has a majority in the Commons I would imagine that the principle of pleasing the leader is becomes the imperative.

No I want them to get a toehold of a few MPs so that when Labour run into the sand and end up as unpopular as the Tories are now we will have an actually conservative party (which is far broader than Reform), shorn of libdem fifth columnists calling themselves centrists, willing to make the necessary reforms that Brexit now empowers Parliament to do.

1) Repeal ECHR membership.

2) Repeal Climate Change Act.

3) Repeal Equality Act and replace with bill of Rights (which will include measures to stop discrimination for whatever reason through measures similar to the common carrier legislation on Railways that stopped them refusing customers and stopped them charging different customers different amounts. (the common carrier legislation was the worlds first anti discrimination legislation)).

4) Abolish hate crime legislation and instead increase sentences on (non hate aggravated) offences to the levels of aggravated offences under hate crime legislation, with judges able to reduce them if mitigation applies.

5) Replace welfare system with contributory based welfare system. Min 5 years full NI contribtutions to get cover (unless child of contributor turning 18 in which case cover through parents for first five years). Transition period applies to avoid existing over 18 residents losing cover in first five years.

6) No NHS cover until 5 years full NI contributions unless cover through parents having such cover. Transition period as above.

7) All restrictions on migration dropped, however no enitlement to any state aid whatsoever for first five years.

If they do too well and get dozens of MPs it will be a disaster as all sorts of unsuitable people will get elected. This is a long game.

But stage 1 is a toehold and the Tories going the way of the Liberals in the 1920s.

5 and 6 should have been done in 2005 before the Eastern European countries were given access to freedom of movement.

But I would love to see how you could get any party to agree to point 7....

Sort out 5 and 6 and the problem goes away.

5 and 6 have already been sorted by Brexit. Now when you come to the UK regardless of whether you bring your wife and chidren you aren't getting benefits for a long time..

Other than housing etc (and all sorts of other things if you turn up on a boat illegally)

dixiedean said:

MisterBedfordshire said:

DougSeal said:

Supporters of Reform on here. Assuming you want your “party” to control the executive and legislature does not the simple statement in the below link worry you about the democratic credentials of your man?

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/persons-with-significant-control

If a man controls a “party” (in this case a limited company of said man who owns 8 out of its 13 shares) which has a majority in the Commons I would imagine that the principle of pleasing the leader is becomes the imperative.

No I want them to get a toehold of a few MPs so that when Labour run into the sand and end up as unpopular as the Tories are now we will have an actually conservative party (which is far broader than Reform), shorn of libdem fifth columnists calling themselves centrists, willing to make the necessary reforms that Brexit now empowers Parliament to do.

1) Repeal ECHR membership.

2) Repeal Climate Change Act.

3) Repeal Equality Act and replace with bill of Rights (which will include measures to stop discrimination for whatever reason through measures similar to the common carrier legislation on Railways that stopped them refusing customers and stopped them charging different customers different amounts. (the common carrier legislation was the worlds first anti discrimination legislation)).

4) Abolish hate crime legislation and instead increase sentences on (non hate aggravated) offences to the levels of aggravated offences under hate crime legislation, with judges able to reduce them if mitigation applies.

5) Replace welfare system with contributory based welfare system. Min 5 years full NI contribtutions to get cover (unless child of contributor turning 18 in which case cover through parents for first five years). Transition period applies to avoid existing over 18 residents losing cover in first five years.

6) No NHS cover until 5 years full NI contributions unless cover through parents having such cover. Transition period as above.

7) All restrictions on migration dropped, however no enitlement to any state aid whatsoever for first five years.

If they do too well and get dozens of MPs it will be a disaster as all sorts of unsuitable people will get elected. This is a long game.

But stage 1 is a toehold and the Tories going the way of the Liberals in the 1920s.

MisterBedfordshire said:

DougSeal said:

Supporters of Reform on here. Assuming you want your “party” to control the executive and legislature does not the simple statement in the below link worry you about the democratic credentials of your man?

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11694875/persons-with-significant-control

If a man controls a “party” (in this case a limited company of said man who owns 8 out of its 13 shares) which has a majority in the Commons I would imagine that the principle of pleasing the leader is becomes the imperative.

No I want them to get a toehold of a few MPs so that when Labour run into the sand and end up as unpopular as the Tories are now we will have an actually conservative party (which is far broader than Reform), shorn of libdem fifth columnists calling themselves centrists, willing to make the necessary reforms that Brexit now empowers Parliament to do.

1) Repeal ECHR membership.

2) Repeal Climate Change Act.

3) Repeal Equality Act and replace with bill of Rights (which will include measures to stop discrimination for whatever reason through measures similar to the common carrier legislation on Railways that stopped them refusing customers and stopped them charging different customers different amounts. (the common carrier legislation was the worlds first anti discrimination legislation)).

4) Abolish hate crime legislation and instead increase sentences on (non hate aggravated) offences to the levels of aggravated offences under hate crime legislation, with judges able to reduce them if mitigation applies.

5) Replace welfare system with contributory based welfare system. Min 5 years full NI contribtutions to get cover (unless child of contributor turning 18 in which case cover through parents for first five years). Transition period applies to avoid existing over 18 residents losing cover in first five years.

6) No NHS cover until 5 years full NI contributions unless cover through parents having such cover. Transition period as above.

7) All restrictions on migration dropped, however no enitlement to any state aid whatsoever for first five years.

If they do too well and get dozens of MPs it will be a disaster as all sorts of unsuitable people will get elected. This is a long game.

But stage 1 is a toehold and the Tories going the way of the Liberals in the 1920s.

But folk are concerned that full time work doesn't pay their bills. And that they can't get a doctor's appointment. Or a dentist at all.
This explains the coming election result.

TOPPING said:

boulay said:

Anabobazina said:

SandyRentool said:

Just turned on the TV for the news.

BBC, Glastonbury.

Sky, Glastonbury.

Why do they get into such a wankfest over this every year?

The average viewer of a 24 hour news channel couldn't give a feck about a bunch of twats living in squalor for a week, and listening to bands they have never heard of.

Another PBer who gets weirdly triggered by Glastonbury. It is the world’s biggest music festival. It is newsworthy.

It’s not in the top ten of biggest music festivals and not even the biggest in UK.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/27/glastonbury-biggest-music-festival-world-21113741/#:~:text=That would be Creamfields, which,arts festival in the world.

The BBC gets weird fixations on certain things (Glasto, Dr Who the two most egregious) whereby they think that 90% of the country shares their enthusiasm, rather than the more likely 2-5% of middle class white males. I'm not sure if it is because they think it will bring a vibrant young audience to the channel and make it "relevant", or whether it's because the aged old white blokes in charge of the Beeb are reliving their youth.

JosiasJessop said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

When I did my coastal walk, another guy was doing it in the other direction. He was Tom Isaacs, and he had early-onset Parkinsons, diagnosed at the age of 26. He had to take a cocktail of drugs every morning, and some days they did not work. He described having a scheduled meeting with one local worthy one morning (Tom's walk was raising money for Parkinsons research), but the drugs had not yet kicked in. A supporter had to help him walk to the meeting, and apparently the worthy thought it was all a con: if he could not walk to the meeting, how could he be walking the coast?

Tom was an amazing chap. I was in awe.

Parkinsons is a nasty little bugger. Early onset Parkinsons is tragic.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Isaacs_(fundraiser)

Foxy said:

biggles said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

That focus group compared to the one in 2019 is really interesting.

I'm not sure I'd even go as far as saying "no enthusiasm" for SKS, actually to me it came across more like "he's dull but I want dull" and in the contrast to "loveable buffoon" they got in 2019, that's an asset SKS has. Polling of SKS's own ratings supports this.

I do think SKS was the best leader Labour could have chosen. He is underrated as a politician, he's got something and it appealed in some way to all of the voters they spoke to - or didn't repel anyone. I do wonder if for this reason the Tories will struggle against him if they go even more extreme.

This focus group has underlined my confidence that the Tories may well be out for a decade. They've lost these voters for good.

Lost them for good? Why do you think they are different to the people who voted the Tories out in 1997 but voted Cameron in? Why are they different from the people who kicked out Brown, didn’t like how Milliband ate his sarnies, were terrified of Labour under Corbyn, but are ok with Starmer?

Well, speaking as one who voted Blair in 1997, voted Cameron in 2010, didn't vote Miliband in 2015, and am OK with Starmer (though not voting for him), the reason is that the Conservatives are not the party of 2010. They show no signs at all of going back to One Nation, socially liberal, Internationalist and environmentalist values. They look like they are going to sink further into reactionary, nativist autarky. So why on earth would I return to voting for them?

nova said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

nova said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

nova said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Roger said:

FPT.

Roger said:

boulay said:

The Mail’s editorial comment is saying what many of us thought it would. Don’t allow a “Starmageddon”, seriously don't vote reform, the Tories have actually done well under the circumstances. Labour will win but vote Tory to ensure a proper opposition to stop the worst of Starmer is a summary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13581819/Tories-say-right-angry-partys-errors-dont-let-anger-blind-perils-Starmerism.html

The Sun will likely say exactly the same and I’m guessing the Times, Telegraph and Express too. “Its lost but you need to still vote Tory to rein in Labour”.

Interesting that those Tory Papers so openly admit their current irrelevance. Be interesting to see which of them are no longer around in their current form when the next election happens

Telegraph and Mail are profitable for starters, successfully moving to subscription model. Times is profitable as well.

I would say the biggest liability is Reach group i.e. Mirror. Mirror is irrelevant, and they bought all those regional newspapers that are failing.

The raverage age of the readership of the Telegraph must be close to 100. Its rumoured Sheikh Mansour wants to turn it into a City fanzine

I thought it was stuffed and has definitely gone downhill, but when we have discussed this previously have on here, have been reliably informed their move to paywall has gone surprisingly well and making money. 100 year olds don't generally know how to use ipads, so i think they have attracted those over who a tad younger than than that are capable of ipad usage.

In all seriousness It had quite a good film critic which worked for me and those who subscribed found something they wanted. The subscription was also cheap and easy to cancel and was sent online so the mechanics plus the price worked. Oddly enough I find the Guardian the most irritating. I just send an arbitrary amount of money at different times as requested but it still manages to behave like a market trader and do a big selling job before I can read anything

Its because the Guardian still struggling to make it all work in the modern landscape. Apparently they get a good chunk of their readership from online via US audience. For whatever reason they don't want to or aren't confident to go the full pay wall route, so they have gone the begging letter approach instead. If I was them, I would bite the bullet and go pay wall. Its works for Times, the NYT, the Athletic. People are willing to pay £5-10 a month for really good content.

I presume at some point we will get a Netflix / Spotify service for written content.

I assume with the Guardian, being owned by a Trust, that readership, and open access, is prized more highly than at a newspaper with an owner. So long as they're not going bust, and have the money to spend on journalism, they would want as many people to be able to read as possible, and for people who can't afford to pay, to still access the site.

They do also have paid access, which avoids the begging letter route.

As for Netflix/Spotify, wouldn't Readly and PressReader be those services?

I actually hadn't heard of Readly. But they are all the traditional magazines. I was thinking something bigger. Spotify is now basically an open platform for artists to upload their music to. At the moment we have numerous different bits and pieces, substack, newspapers, traditional magazines, new expert written content like an Athletic.

The reason everybody has Spotify or the couple of other services is it is now basically all music ever all in one place.

All music is big, but all writing is a lot bigger.

All TV and film would have been nice too, but I now have half a dozen services, which added together don't give me anything like the access to films that the old dvd by post system had.

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more. And as I say, this "expert" or "niche" thing is big. I think it is why some traditional magazines are still able to stand on their own, because they are seen as the expert, where as others are struggling / dying. I guess a good example is tech magazines or games, they are all struggling, because the magazines are basically trash. But people are more interested than ever and you get the mega YouTube sites for tech or games.

Readly does have a few newspapers - but it's pretty limited. Press Reader has most newspapers, but is nearly £30.

I would quite like to have a one payment for most content, but where it's already digital it's a bit trickier - If you can already paywall your content and have a readership, then putting it into a consolidated package is likely to lose you money.

A lot of the smaller/medium sized artists that weren't making much through Spotify, have now moved on to sites like Patreon.

williamglenn said:

rottenborough said:

Jill Biden says she's all in for keeping Joe in the race.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/jill-biden-says-she-reassured-the-president-in-the-moments-after-a-dismal-debate.html


FFS. This is bloody madness.

She risks making herself look like the villain instead of his staunchest supporter. The fact that she looks very good for her age makes the contast with Joe here even more stark:

https://x.com/rncresearch/status/1806737770070626640

FrancisUrquhart said:

Sandpit said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more.

I still think Amazon or Apple will end up buying Spotify at some point.

Spotify have a big problem. The record companies have now decided that streaming is the only game in town, and willing to licence their catalogues to any service who can pay. So there is no exclusivity, no massive individual reason to choose Spotify over Apple Music.

That is why they went for the exclusive podcast route, but it seems to have failed.

As a result all the music streaming services are basically the same price, same catalogue. The problem for Spotify is an Apple or Amazon can wait them out. Spotify had first mover advantage, but Apple can slow draw customers away with their bundled offers and they don't need to make money on music streaming anytime soon.

I’m not sure how Spotify’s thinking went, when they decided to let Rogan go back everywhere and try to monetise it, rather than keeping him as an exclusive on their platform.

I can only guess that they thought he was unlikey to draw a lot more additional subscribers, and so his value was more marginal than when he first signed, but they had to keep paying him otherwise he’d have gone for another exclusive somewhere else.

Pretty much every other exclusive podcast they signed went nowhere, and cost them a fortune.

They went crazy on signing podcaster to exclusive deals at massive valuations. But THE biggest of all of them, they ditch the exclusivity on, it doesn't make any sense.

They are claiming now podcasts now make them money,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68884501

Leon said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

Yes. Look at that man with wild delusions, paranoia, and total loss of memory, plus insane hallucinations! He’s the ideal person to have control over America’s nukes!

ydoethur said:

Leon said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

Yes. Look at that man with wild delusions, paranoia, and total loss of memory, plus insane hallucinations! He’s the ideal person to have control over America’s nukes!

Agreed. It's bizarre the Republicans have put him forward again.

Oh, sorry, you didn't mean Trump?

FrancisUrquhart said:

An absolute killer for Biden campaign, social media is absolutely awash with memes all using Biden looking totally confused / lost. I bet it is having big cut through like Ed's Bacon Sandwich or Sunak not having Sky.

Leon said:

williamglenn said:

rottenborough said:

Jill Biden says she's all in for keeping Joe in the race.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/us/politics/jill-biden-says-she-reassured-the-president-in-the-moments-after-a-dismal-debate.html


FFS. This is bloody madness.

She risks making herself look like the villain instead of his staunchest supporter. The fact that she looks very good for her age makes the contast with Joe here even more stark:

https://x.com/rncresearch/status/1806737770070626640

Look at his face there. He’s almost crying. He wants to go home and sit down and maybe have a cookie

FrancisUrquhart said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

The 27 different streaming services won't last. They will consolidate.

Maybe I was being a bit OTT with the all writing ever. I mean more it becomes a central go to hub for a lot of different areas. The Readly site appears to be more we have done a deal with the couple of big magazine publishers to show their content digitally. Which yes is what Spotify does, but it also does more.

I still think Amazon or Apple will end up buying Spotify at some point.

Spotify have a big problem. The record companies have now decided that streaming is the only game in town, and willing to licence their catalogues to any service who can pay. So there is no exclusivity, no massive individual reason to choose Spotify over Apple Music.

That is why they went for the exclusive podcast route, but it seems to have failed.

As a result all the music streaming services are basically the same price, same catalogue. The problem for Spotify is an Apple or Amazon can wait them out. Spotify had first mover advantage, but Apple can slow draw customers away with their bundled offers and they don't need to make money on music streaming anytime soon.

Roger said:

Interesting watching Fiona Bruce with Farage and the leader of the Greens last night....... An excellent audience. As good as I've seen. Extremely well informed and articulate It was quite life affirming to see how much they loathed farage and how little they tolerated his confected bullshit

Though the audience will have been selected to represent different views I doubt they tried to balance their ages so Farages older cohort in all likelihood wouldn't have been able to make it. Not a single clap for him in half an hour

FrancisUrquhart said:

Quite some claim....

Massive amounts of recently acquired advanced Chinese military equipment and weapons technology were foundin Gaza by the Israel Defense Forces, according to Guermantes Lailari, a Scholar at National Chengchi University in Taiwan and retired U.S. Air Force Officer. Chinese tunnel warfare specialists helped design and build the Hamas tunnels. Lailari also told me that two tunnel engineers from China's People's Liberation Army were discovered by the IDF, meaning that China helped Hamas significantly in its construction of the massive tunnel networks under the Gaza Strip. (The engineers were returned to China after pressure on Israel.)

https://www.newsweek.com/china-waging-proxy-war-israel-opinion-1910156

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direct warming being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Nunu5 said:

https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1806960870058004550

Tories admit Libdems will wins dozens of seats from them, on the door step they go hours at a time without meeting a Tory voter.

GOTV is matching the polls.

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direct warming being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Do a shit everywhere, somewhere will be porcelain

Nunu5 said:

https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1806960870058004550

Tories admit Libdems will wins dozens of seats from them, on the door step they go hours at a time without meeting a Tory voter.

GOTV is matching the polls.

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direst warning being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

TimS said:

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direct warming being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Do a shit everywhere, somewhere will be porcelain

But the bizarre thing is the other side has pictures of the Lewisham North Tory candidate. So it’s not a generic national mailing, it’s been adapted for the local area!

FrancisUrquhart said:

An absolute killer for Biden campaign, social media is absolutely awash with memes all using Biden looking totally confused / lost. I bet it is having big cut through like Ed's Bacon Sandwich or Sunak not having Sky.

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direst warning being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Sean_F said:

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direct warming being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Do a shit everywhere, somewhere will be porcelain

But the bizarre thing is the other side has pictures of the Lewisham North Tory candidate. So it’s not a generic national mailing, it’s been adapted for the local area!

Lol, they are special people

It is the worst campaign that has been waged by a major party in the history of British democracy.

Leon said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

Yes. Look at that man with wild delusions, paranoia, and total loss of memory, plus insane hallucinations! He’s the ideal person to have control over America’s nukes!

Leon said:

rottenborough said:

Eabhal said:

Nigelb said:

Eabhal said:

Dura_Ace said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

A big debate on Twitter - often amongst Democrats - about Biden’s alleged dementia. As they are discussing it - and using the D word - surely we can

Lots of them are desperate for him to step aside. One argument they are making is that dementia is not just about mumbling and slowing, which can indeed be handled by good advisors taking over most tasks. Some dementias turn you paranoid, angry, aggressive - they can make you hallucinate

Someone in that state simply cannot be POTUS. Not anywhere near it. Logically, Biden either has to prove he’s not got dementia or he has to go. If he doesn’t do either of these he is absolutely going to lose as Americans absorb this logic

But Biden has not shown any of those symptoms.

Trump however...

(No doubt something is wrong with Biden but there are plenty of other options. My partner reckons she knows what it is, and she works in old age psych)

So what is it?

Parkinson's (but with no tremor), but they aren't giving him the full whack of medication because the side effects would be too obvious. Would explain the on/off days.

That's an interesting theory.

It raises the equation of how they spin the next off day that he has. 'A cold' doesn't really work.

I've been corrected - if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours.

So that would mean many more "off" hours during the election campaign. It does all feel a bit desperate tbh. Time for an Address to the Nation. We could even provide a diplomatic carrot and offer a holiday at Balmoral if he goes soon.

"if Parkinson's, the medication gives you on/off hours."

It varies from person to person to be honest.

But if he does have PD and the Dems are hiding this and this is later found out during the campaign then Trump can start loading his removal van with the gold golf clubs or whatever and head straight to the WH.

Later stages of PD can often include hallucinations, wild delusions and major memory issues.

Yes. Look at that man with wild delusions, paranoia, and total loss of memory, plus insane hallucinations! He’s the ideal person to have control over America’s nukes!

Sean_F said:

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

wooliedyed said:

TimS said:

The Tories are really excelling in their geographical micro targeting during this campaign.

I just got a leaflet through the letter box. The second one. Here in Lewisham North (notional Lab maj 32k).

It warns me about a host of things Starmer will do. The usual mixture of grains of truth and outright lies (“banning flexible work entirely”), with the direct warming being this:

They will introduce a nationwide ULEZ scheme and pay-per-mile road charging, “Just like in Labour London”.

Heaven forbid that we, here in Lewisham North, in the London borough of Lewisham, ULEZ zone since 2019, might be faced with a ULEZ!

Do a shit everywhere, somewhere will be porcelain

But the bizarre thing is the other side has pictures of the Lewisham North Tory candidate. So it’s not a generic national mailing, it’s been adapted for the local area!

Lol, they are special people

It is the worst campaign that has been waged by a major party in the history of British democracy.

williamglenn said:

The Conservatives for Angela Rayner campaign continues:

https://x.com/conservatives/status/1807004587401851376