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Angry kjh is a new one on me. I thought you'd swapped accounts with CR for a minute, but you failed to flouncekjh said:Sorry for losing my cool early, particularly as I did it with posters I like.
Just to confirm I am not going to mention buying train tickets at the station or online for at least another 24 hours and hopefully for a lot longer.
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He was IIRC in for the new seat of Penrith and Solway (my home seat) replacing P and B (was my home seat), but Jenkinson got it instead. This is not in the top 40 reasons for not voting Tory this time, but it possibly makes the top 100. Hudson basically OK and bright, and was the only vet in the Commons. Jenkinson a typical Red Waller populist.Andy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Labour expected to take this safe Tory seat by several thousand this time, though an informed Tory I know thinks Tories have a chance both in P and S, and in Carlisle (where Labour are also expected to win). DYOR. I think Labour will sweep the board in Cumbria except for Tim Farron who will walk his new seat.1 -
I physically loathe this fat wheezing Ukrainian fuck next to me with such a consuming passion I actively want an Iranian missile to take out the whole bus JUST SO HE DIES1
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Indeed, Sir Keir has been proven right by her behaviour since her removal. She is clearly a loose cannon who puts herself above her party.nico679 said:
No one knows who she is apart from us in here . I feel sorry for her as being a Labour candidate now given the polls and her original target meant she could have walked the election but when will politicians or those aspiring to be learn that using twitter is an accident waiting to happen . And it wasn’t just her tweeting that caused the problems .wooliedyed said:Shaheen resigns from Labour and will make an announcement tomorrow on her candidacy/next steps
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Farage may win Clacton, I doubt Reform win anywhere else except maybe Ashfield and in some redwall seats they will take Labour votes as Farage appeals more to Labour voters than Tice.RochdalePioneers said:Farage will win Clacton
RefUK will help the Tories get absolutely demolished
The Tory MPs left will be Faragista
Tory members are already Faragista
Farage as the next Tory leader? Doable.
I assume you have not been following any of the Tory selections in recent weeks? Almost all the final 3 in shortlists picked by CCHQ where Tory MPs are standing down have been Sunak loyalists not Faragistas and indeed most of the Faragista/Boris loyalist Conservative redwall MPs will likely lose their seats2 -
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I'd be astonished if the Tories have a gnat's fart chance in Carlisle.algarkirk said:
He was IIRC in for the new seat of Penrith and Solway (my home seat) replacing P and B (was my home seat), but Jenkinson got it instead. This is not in the top 40 reasons for not voting Tory this time, but it possibly makes the top 100. Hudson basically OK and bright, and was the only vet in the Commons. Jenkinson a typical Red Waller populist.Andy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Labour expected to take this safe Tory seat by several thousand this time, though an informed Tory I know thinks Tories have a chance both in P and S, and in Carlisle (where Labour are also expected to win). DYOR. I think Labour will sweep the board in Cumbria except for Tim Farron who will walk his new seat.0 -
Send Colonel Cassad, the "Fisherman" or Two Majors the geolocation of your busLeon said:
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'We send £275 million* per week to private landlords. Let's spend it on building houses instead.'bondegezou said:
Yes. We need public housing. The state currently spends large amounts of money funnelling housing benefit to landlords. Let's just build council housing.LostPassword said:
Lots of good ideas there. I found this chart very interesting.Nigelb said:I have a degree of scepticism about the individuals behind this, but their list if ideas is more worthy of attention than anything Farage has said in the last two decades, and more likely to contribute to growth than Truss's mad flirtation with power.
Britain has been in a funk. Real GDP per capita hasn't reached its 2007 peak. Real wages have stagnated. Bills and rents are too high, and our transport infrastructure is creaking.
It doesn't have to be this way. Today
@BritainRemade is launching our plan for economic growth...
https://x.com/Ben_A_Hopkinson/status/1797938075081056603The rate of private housebuilding isn't low by historical standards. But the state stopped building houses. Add 150,000 houses a year built by the state and I think you'd start to fix the problem.
Could stick it on the side of a bus, couldn't you?
*back of envelope from a Beeb story putting housing benefit at £14.3bn/year (not all to private landlords, presumably)4 -
The pram no longer contains any toys.wooliedyed said:Shaheen resigns from Labour and will make an announcement tomorrow on her candidacy/next steps
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To be fair to Rayner she says she supports nuclear weapons while Putin has them, just wants disarmament globally in an ideal worldnico679 said:
The BBC originally screwed up this by not reporting the full story .Alanbrooke said:lol Labour looks like it will be as divided as the Tories.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-said-she-wants-to-scrap-nuclear-weapons-hours-after-starmer-said-shadow-cabinet-backs-him/ar-BB1nAJeG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5728ef3d25bb4a18a570861ca8166f83&ei=142 -
At least HB going to councils is just a recharge of one bit of the state to another. Can't think of much worse expenditure than landlord benefit tbf,Selebian said:
'We send £275 million* per week to private landlords. Let's spend it on building houses instead.'bondegezou said:
Yes. We need public housing. The state currently spends large amounts of money funnelling housing benefit to landlords. Let's just build council housing.LostPassword said:
Lots of good ideas there. I found this chart very interesting.Nigelb said:I have a degree of scepticism about the individuals behind this, but their list if ideas is more worthy of attention than anything Farage has said in the last two decades, and more likely to contribute to growth than Truss's mad flirtation with power.
Britain has been in a funk. Real GDP per capita hasn't reached its 2007 peak. Real wages have stagnated. Bills and rents are too high, and our transport infrastructure is creaking.
It doesn't have to be this way. Today
@BritainRemade is launching our plan for economic growth...
https://x.com/Ben_A_Hopkinson/status/1797938075081056603
Could stick it on the side of a bus, couldn't you?
*back of envelope from a Beeb story putting housing benefit at £14.3bn/year (not all to private landlords, presumably)1 -
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
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I am not going anywhere thank you very much.Pulpstar said:
At least HB going to councils is just a recharge of one bit of the state to another. Can't think of much worse expenditure than landlord benefit tbf,Selebian said:
'We send £275 million* per week to private landlords. Let's spend it on building houses instead.'bondegezou said:
Yes. We need public housing. The state currently spends large amounts of money funnelling housing benefit to landlords. Let's just build council housing.LostPassword said:
Lots of good ideas there. I found this chart very interesting.Nigelb said:I have a degree of scepticism about the individuals behind this, but their list if ideas is more worthy of attention than anything Farage has said in the last two decades, and more likely to contribute to growth than Truss's mad flirtation with power.
Britain has been in a funk. Real GDP per capita hasn't reached its 2007 peak. Real wages have stagnated. Bills and rents are too high, and our transport infrastructure is creaking.
It doesn't have to be this way. Today
@BritainRemade is launching our plan for economic growth...
https://x.com/Ben_A_Hopkinson/status/1797938075081056603
Could stick it on the side of a bus, couldn't you?
*back of envelope from a Beeb story putting housing benefit at £14.3bn/year (not all to private landlords, presumably)0 -
Yougov voteshares with Farage as Reform Leader earlier this year
Con 21%
Labour 42%
Reform 14%
LD 10%
Farage took from the Tories and Labour who were both down 1% the poll found but the LDs rose 1% ironically if Farage returned
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/17426025153240352621 -
Worse than that - it's why house prices are so high, remove the state payment of housing benefit and private rents would be lower which would also make house prices lower...Pulpstar said:
At least HB going to councils is just a recharge of one bit of the state to another. Can't think of much worse expenditure than landlord benefit tbf,Selebian said:
'We send £275 million* per week to private landlords. Let's spend it on building houses instead.'bondegezou said:
Yes. We need public housing. The state currently spends large amounts of money funnelling housing benefit to landlords. Let's just build council housing.LostPassword said:
Lots of good ideas there. I found this chart very interesting.Nigelb said:I have a degree of scepticism about the individuals behind this, but their list if ideas is more worthy of attention than anything Farage has said in the last two decades, and more likely to contribute to growth than Truss's mad flirtation with power.
Britain has been in a funk. Real GDP per capita hasn't reached its 2007 peak. Real wages have stagnated. Bills and rents are too high, and our transport infrastructure is creaking.
It doesn't have to be this way. Today
@BritainRemade is launching our plan for economic growth...
https://x.com/Ben_A_Hopkinson/status/1797938075081056603
Could stick it on the side of a bus, couldn't you?
*back of envelope from a Beeb story putting housing benefit at £14.3bn/year (not all to private landlords, presumably)
Classic example from where Twin A has bought her house. Market value of a house £170,000 unless it has previous permission to be a HMO. In which case it's £320,000 (and that's on 10% return)1 -
Ooh. I just got interrogated by the Ukrainian border guards and THEN I SHOWED THEM MY OFFICIAL MEDIA ACCREDITATION
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Pig for Victory!Leon said: 2 -
John Barry, "Theme From The Persuaders", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcBJ1KSvxtANigelb said:
Yes, loved that; it was far better than the series itself.nico679 said:
OMG that had an amazing music intro . One of the very best ever for a tv programme .Casino_Royale said:
She really should have had a bit part in The Persuaders with a name like that.rcs1000 said:
Thangam Debbonaire is smarter than I had realized.rottenborough said:Owen Jones
@OwenJones84
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I tried to have a little chat with Labour's Shadow Cabinet minister Thangam Debbonaire in Bristol Central.
It didn't go very well.
https://x.com/OwenJones84/status/1797941391852527888
The almost contemporaneous The Life and Times of David Lloyd George had one by Morricine which was arguably even better.
Ennio Morricone, "Chi Mai", used as the theme to "The Life and Times of David Lloyd George", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbHP9NtSnB00 -
Indeed. As is so often the case, you are both precise and fair in your thinking – unlike many of the PB Tories who just jump on to half-baked, semi-quotes without checking them, in acts of naked desperation.HYUFD said:
To be fair to Rayner she says she supports nuclear weapons while Putin has them, just wants disarmament globally in an ideal worldnico679 said:
The BBC originally screwed up this by not reporting the full story .Alanbrooke said:lol Labour looks like it will be as divided as the Tories.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-said-she-wants-to-scrap-nuclear-weapons-hours-after-starmer-said-shadow-cabinet-backs-him/ar-BB1nAJeG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5728ef3d25bb4a18a570861ca8166f83&ei=143 -
@Eabhal I think quite a few councils were expecting the election in May so are pretty geared up for it. Contacted the council here in the East Riding today. Staff were positive and friendly. Confirmed still down as a postal vote. Papers/postal votes going out in batches from 20th onwards. All quite efficient.Eabhal said:Postal vote confirmed. Quick work from the council, hope the ballot arrives in time.
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A reminder that polls are not infallible.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com3 -
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Well thank you. I try to stay calm and polite, but I have lost it on more than one occasion here. I'm not sure my latest one counts that much really. Interestingly it was @Casino_Royale that pulled me up on my last proper one. He actually did it very politely and he was right. My only defence was that I was sorely pushed by @megasaur who came out with the most outrageous accusations of racism, homophobia and antisemitism in a serious of obnoxious post. Why me I don't know? Casino did me a favour. I stopped, thought and 24 hours later posted a considered post which got liked by 2 posters I respect a great deal. That made me feel a lot better than ranting.Selebian said:
Angry kjh is a new one on me. I thought you'd swapped accounts with CR for a minute, but you failed to flouncekjh said:Sorry for losing my cool early, particularly as I did it with posters I like.
Just to confirm I am not going to mention buying train tickets at the station or online for at least another 24 hours and hopefully for a lot longer.3 -
Farage might also gain vote share for Reform, by enthusing don't knows/won't votes.HYUFD said:Yougov voteshares with Farage as Reform Leader earlier this year
Con 21%
Labour 42%
Reform 14%
LD 10%
Farage took from the Tories and Labour who were both down 1% the poll found but the LDs rose 1% ironically if Farage returned
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/17426025153240352622 -
How do donations work in the case of Refuk? Are they held in trust for the sole purpose of campaigning - or could Nige pull an exit scam by closing the party down and pocketing the cash?nico679 said:
It’s not a proper party . Just a vehicle for Farage to peddle his brand of hate politics.noneoftheabove said:
Fararge owns 53% of Reform, so controls it. If he wants to be leader he is, no point fighting him.Nigelb said:
The sole amusing thing about Farage's latest foray is the pathetic capitulation of the previous leader, when the blowhard announced he was taking over.Cleitophon said:Nigel Farage appears to ditch key Reform UK immigration policy during live interview. Nigel Farage appeared to ditch a key Reform UK policy live on air, admitting that his party’s plan to process asylum seekers in British Overseas Territories is “not terribly practical”.
Yet another thing the expresserati have to roll back their support for.... Brexiteers are forever retconning their own history to account for their failures and changing leadership over the years..... it is astounding to observe
RefUK are a bunch of sad cucks.0 -
Amazing news from India!Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com2 -
And not the first polling failure this year. This concerns me.rcs1000 said:
A reminder that polls are not infallible.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com1 -
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
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Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com2 -
Greatest polling failure in history?Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
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What? @HYUFD _is_ the PB Tories.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. As is so often the case, you are both precise and fair in your thinking – unlike many of the PB Tories who just jump on to half-baked, semi-quotes without checking them, in acts of naked desperation.HYUFD said:
To be fair to Rayner she says she supports nuclear weapons while Putin has them, just wants disarmament globally in an ideal worldnico679 said:
The BBC originally screwed up this by not reporting the full story .Alanbrooke said:lol Labour looks like it will be as divided as the Tories.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-said-she-wants-to-scrap-nuclear-weapons-hours-after-starmer-said-shadow-cabinet-backs-him/ar-BB1nAJeG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5728ef3d25bb4a18a570861ca8166f83&ei=14
Or used to be.0 -
Maybe the problem is the electoral system.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Why let unqualified people choose their MPs just because of tenuous 'links' with an area like residency. Instead they should be vetted by specialist judges and appointed by a panel of experts to ensure they are up to the job.1 -
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.0 -
I can't stand slow people on public transport. If fines are are needed to make them speed up, or at least get out of my way, then fines there must be.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained.1 -
Didn't take long
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Like you, he is a Tory on PB, not a PB Tory.TOPPING said:
What? @HYUFD _is_ the PB Tories.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. As is so often the case, you are both precise and fair in your thinking – unlike many of the PB Tories who just jump on to half-baked, semi-quotes without checking them, in acts of naked desperation.HYUFD said:
To be fair to Rayner she says she supports nuclear weapons while Putin has them, just wants disarmament globally in an ideal worldnico679 said:
The BBC originally screwed up this by not reporting the full story .Alanbrooke said:lol Labour looks like it will be as divided as the Tories.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-said-she-wants-to-scrap-nuclear-weapons-hours-after-starmer-said-shadow-cabinet-backs-him/ar-BB1nAJeG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5728ef3d25bb4a18a570861ca8166f83&ei=14
Or used to be.0 -
The BJP had a small overall majority by itself in the previous Parliament though with its allies governed with a massive lead over the Opposition. They now longer have that, but with its supporters, look at present to have an overall majority of about 40. So Modi should remain PM but with his authority massively diminished.Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com4 -
The 'Farage not welcome here' protesters have also arrived.Big_G_NorthWales said:Didn't take long
Farage has drink thrown over him in Clacton
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To a point. It depends if the claim is cultural or economic - as expressed above, it could be either. If its cultural, then it's completely a matter of opinion.Andy_JS said:The BBC "fact-checking" Farage's claim that migration is ruining Britain.
That isn't something you can fact-check, it's a matter of opinion. That the BBC don't realise this is interesting.
If it's economic, then one can assemble figures on the effects of immigration on wages, prices, housing supply, taxes and benefits paid, and this becomes fact checkable.
The problem then is that the economic impact of migration depends who you are; largely the richer you are, the better it is likely to be for you - so even once you get the economic data, it's probably going to be mixed.
The problem is that the economic picture is mixed0 -
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
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So, what was he doing in Penrith? As a general rule, candidates should live in the local area if they are going to represent it, and understand it’s idiosyncrasies.HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
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I think there's some confusion between whether BJP alone will win a majority (it probably won't) or whether the electoral coalition it is part of will do so (looks like they will).Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com
There are 23 other parties in alliance with BJP, and 22 in alliance with Congress.1 -
It would take a special punter indeed to spend 95 minutes on the Tube in Zone 1. It is a whole new world of Travelling Salesman Problem to calculate how such a feat could be achieved.rcs1000 said:
I can't stand slow people on public transport. If fines are are needed to make them speed up, or at least get out of my way, then fines there must be.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained.
(no deliberate loitering allowed)0 -
Are there any seats that are potentially between reform and Tory where we would have the hilarity of tactical voters having to decide which is worse?wooliedyed said:
The 'Farage not welcome here' protesters have also arrived.Big_G_NorthWales said:Didn't take long
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Which is fine. Physical assault - absolutely notwooliedyed said:
The 'Farage not welcome here' protesters have also arrived.Big_G_NorthWales said:Didn't take long
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As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.0 -
Two of the BJP's allies - the Janata Dal (United) and the Telugu Desam Party - are leading in close to 30 seats. The BJP - which seems to have been restricted to around 240 seats - needs them to reach 272 seats to be in power.Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com
But both the TDP and the JDU are former Congress partners, and Mr Gandhi did not rule out the possibility of holding talks with them.3 -
Two of the greatest cinema music geniuses of all time.viewcode said:
John Barry, "Theme From The Persuaders", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcBJ1KSvxtANigelb said:
Yes, loved that; it was far better than the series itself.nico679 said:
OMG that had an amazing music intro . One of the very best ever for a tv programme .Casino_Royale said:
She really should have had a bit part in The Persuaders with a name like that.rcs1000 said:
Thangam Debbonaire is smarter than I had realized.rottenborough said:Owen Jones
@OwenJones84
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I tried to have a little chat with Labour's Shadow Cabinet minister Thangam Debbonaire in Bristol Central.
It didn't go very well.
https://x.com/OwenJones84/status/1797941391852527888
The almost contemporaneous The Life and Times of David Lloyd George had one by Morricine which was arguably even better.
Ennio Morricone, "Chi Mai", used as the theme to "The Life and Times of David Lloyd George", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbHP9NtSnB01 -
More likely to be a crank, getting as many tube trains as possible in the book for riding in.Anabobazina said:
It would take a special punter indeed to spend 95 minutes on the Tube in Zone 1. It is a whole new world of Travelling Salesman Problem to calculate how such a feat could be achieved.rcs1000 said:
I can't stand slow people on public transport. If fines are are needed to make them speed up, or at least get out of my way, then fines there must be.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained.
(no deliberate loitering allowed)1 -
The thing is we have had the weirdo people locked up for intimidating the likes of the egg heads and the extreme Brexit types against MPs who were prominent trying to stop Brexit. That was all taken incredibly seriously by the earnest media and the courts.Leon said:
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
If you attack a politician you should do time
This will be laughed about, even if it any liquid could be in there.0 -
Clacton. Thats it I'd think.boulay said:
Are there any seats that are potentially between reform and Tory where we would have the hilarity of tactical voters having to decide which is worse?wooliedyed said:
The 'Farage not welcome here' protesters have also arrived.Big_G_NorthWales said:Didn't take long
Farage has drink thrown over him in Clacton3 -
I hope it was piss lager. I would hate to think that someone would waste a pint of ale on him.Andy_JS said:
Throwing beer at someone is how you show appreciation in Clacton. Local tradition.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.0 -
And it's probably not that tough a choice in Clacton.wooliedyed said:
Clacton. Thats it I'd think.boulay said:
Are there any seats that are potentially between reform and Tory where we would have the hilarity of tactical voters having to decide which is worse?wooliedyed said:
The 'Farage not welcome here' protesters have also arrived.Big_G_NorthWales said:Didn't take long
Farage has drink thrown over him in Clacton1 -
I assume that applied to the Milibands too with their thick Geordie and Yorkshire accents?Fairliered said:
So, what was he doing in Penrith? As a general rule, candidates should live in the local area if they are going to represent it, and understand it’s idiosyncrasies.HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
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It's not the voting system. It's a cultural thing. The "local champion" culture is even stronger in Ireland where there is STV and multi-member constituencies.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
You have to wrong the argument with the voters to vote for something different, and change the way that government is done so that voters don't have good cause for feeling like they need a local champion to stand up for them.0 -
Lucky the UK isn’t awash with guns . I loathe Farage but the public should stick to using the ballot box to make their point and not try and intimidate politicians.FrancisUrquhart said:
The thing is we have had the weirdo people locked up for intimidating the likes of the egg heads and the extreme Brexit types against MPs who were prominent trying to stop Brexit. That was all taken incredibly seriously by the earnest media and the courts.Leon said:
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
If you attack a politician you should do time
This will be laughed about, even if it any liquid could be in there.3 -
Modi started the campaign looking set for a Reagan like landslide and ended up it seems rehashing May's 2017 campaignJohnO said:
The BJP had a small overall majority by itself in the previous Parliament though with its allies governed with a massive lead over the Opposition. They now longer have that, but with its supporters, look at present to have an overall majority of about 40. So Modi should remain PM but with his authority massively diminished.Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com2 -
"Brandy? Throw more brandy!"Fairliered said:
I hope it was piss lager. I would hate to think that someone would waste a pint of ale on him.Andy_JS said:
Throwing beer at someone is how you show appreciation in Clacton. Local tradition.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMyhCgsb7E0 -
Obviously even without widespread access to guns, we have lost several MPs in recent history to knife / sword attacks.nico679 said:
Lucky the UK isn’t awash with guns . I loathe Farage but the public should stick to using the ballot box to make their point and not try and intimidate politicians.FrancisUrquhart said:
The thing is we have had the weirdo people locked up for intimidating the likes of the egg heads and the extreme Brexit types against MPs who were prominent trying to stop Brexit. That was all taken incredibly seriously by the earnest media and the courts.Leon said:
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
If you attack a politician you should do time
This will be laughed about, even if it any liquid could be in there.
The thing is the more this happens, the more no MP will ever interact with the genuine public, which can't be a good thing (see Sunak leadership).2 -
I concurAnabobazina said:noneoftheabove said:
Most likely fallen asleep on circle line....Anabobazina said:
What exactly are you doing if you spend 95 minutes getting across Zone 1? It's a tiny area.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained. No longer a circle so you'd end up in Hammersmith!
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Four ways spring to mind: getting stuck in a tunnel; getting the tap in/out sequence wrong when changing lines so the system loses track of you; popping off for a spot of shopping while changing lines.Anabobazina said:
It would take a special punter indeed to spend 95 minutes on the Tube in Zone 1. It is a whole new world of Travelling Salesman Problem to calculate how such a feat could be achieved.rcs1000 said:
I can't stand slow people on public transport. If fines are are needed to make them speed up, or at least get out of my way, then fines there must be.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained.
(no deliberate loitering allowed)
And most common will be simply using different cards to tap in and out.0 -
I agree most of the case work should be dealt with by local councillors, but that would require an overhaul of the status of local government. Currently they are little better than branch offices of Whitehall especially given the growth of ring fenced funding.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
I think the constituency link is important, I’m not entirely wedded to FPTP and could be persuaded towards AV even though I’m aware of the limitations. Not keen on pure PR systems given the tendency to give outsized influence to deeply unpopular groups and to end up with government programs devoid of any of the policies that attracted the votes to start with.0 -
And who will ever stand for Parliament if we tolerate assault on them? The girl that chucked the milkshake needs a couple of weeks in prison and a criminal record. Make everyone else think twiceFrancisUrquhart said:
Obviously even without widespread access to guns, we have lost several MPs in recent history to knife / sword attacks.nico679 said:
Lucky the UK isn’t awash with guns . I loathe Farage but the public should stick to using the ballot box to make their point and not try and intimidate politicians.FrancisUrquhart said:
The thing is we have had the weirdo people locked up for intimidating the likes of the egg heads and the extreme Brexit types against MPs who were prominent trying to stop Brexit. That was all taken incredibly seriously by the earnest media and the courts.Leon said:
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
If you attack a politician you should do time
This will be laughed about, even if it any liquid could be in there.
The thing is the more this happens, the more no MP will ever interact with the genuine public, which can't be a good thing (see Sunak leadership).4 -
I'm not a fan of Modi, but I think it would be a rum do if a party that stood for election as part of one alliance switched sides faster than Sian Berry to support the other.SandyRentool said:
Two of the BJP's allies - the Janata Dal (United) and the Telugu Desam Party - are leading in close to 30 seats. The BJP - which seems to have been restricted to around 240 seats - needs them to reach 272 seats to be in power.Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com
But both the TDP and the JDU are former Congress partners, and Mr Gandhi did not rule out the possibility of holding talks with them.0 -
Fellow passengers of James Corden's flight from the Algarve to London have told how they feared the plane was going to crash as they were told to 'adopt' the brace position before the aircraft's emergency landing. Corden, 45, vented his frustration at a member of staff on Sunday during a turbulent trip which saw the plane stop in Lisbon and passengers allegedly placed in immigration queues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13492347/james-corden-ba-fight-confrontation-plane-crash-lisbon.html
Imagine the horror of that. 3hrs of being stuck in a small metal tube....having to listen to James Corden.4 -
No! The case work grounds them in as much as that is possible. Dealing with constituency issues gives them a perspective into the lives of the citizenship for whom they are supposed to be serving and is a link for the governed to air their grievances.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
Besides I'd make the case that matters of national & international import are rarely the remit of the common or garden backbencher.
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The Conservatives will pledge to abolish inheritance tax in “one big throw of the tax dice” to try and save themselves from electoral wipeout, George Osborne has said. The former chancellor described the proposal to get rid of death duties as a “potent weapon” in the Tories’ arsenal which they are likely to reach for given their standing in the polls.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/04/conservatives-scrap-inheritance-tax-election-george-osborne/0 -
PR gives the government to deeply unpopular groups, whereas FPTP on the other hand... (apologies)ToryJim said:
I agree most of the case work should be dealt with by local councillors, but that would require an overhaul of the status of local government. Currently they are little better than branch offices of Whitehall especially given the growth of ring fenced funding.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
I think the constituency link is important, I’m not entirely wedded to FPTP and could be persuaded towards AV even though I’m aware of the limitations. Not keen on pure PR systems given the tendency to give outsized influence to deeply unpopular groups and to end up with government programs devoid of any of the policies that attracted the votes to start with.0 -
You should visit Scotland a lot more, its beauty competes with anything in France I've seen - I can't say I've been everywhere there but I lived in Nice for three months and I've been around a fair bit.Leon said:
It is. Its a close contest between France and Italy for the most beautiful country in the worldAnabobazina said:
Gorgeous! It is very hard to beat France.Leon said:
I will use my one daily photo to show a lovely lady I met in my journey down the Loire. She owned this tiny chateau and these remarkable birds and she expertly flirted over her own wine as we lunched in her bucolic garden. BlissTOPPING said:
Yep same here I did Cycling for Softies there some time ago. Fantastic popping into out of the way chateaux to be greeted by the owners sitting outside in their faded cotton trousers offering you a glass of rosé.El_Capitano said:
The Loire is lovely. I did it upstream as far as Cosne Cours sur Loire a couple of years back. Easy to make good progress and also easy to get utterly diverted and stop off in every town along the way. Enjoy. https://cycle.travel/route/loirekjh said:
My favourite was Daisy Cooper and her gang on the boat behind Rishi Sunak. As I said yesterday we might not be going to win the election but we are having great fun not doing so and I have to say the local campaign I have been involved in has been a huge amount of fun with lots of laughs. The most enjoyable so far and I have been involved in a lot.El_Capitano said:
Ah, if Nige had listened to Rubberbandits' seminal "Up Da Ra", he wouldn't have made that mistake.Roger said:OT. Posted by NigelB yesterday. Something to uplift us all. My favourite moment of the campaign so far
https://x.com/DUPleader/status/1797662088627994889/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGaeL22Pkps
(Their "Horse Outside" is just as good.)
I am going to miss it for the next 10 days as I cycle along the banks of the Loire. 7 days cycling, 400+ km to go. I might post some pictures but I don't have a Jess the cat or a dog for scale.
We are lucky to have them on our doorstep
They also have different strengths as destinations. France is much better organised and has better infra, but the Italians are much more charming and affable - a serious positive
Britain beats them both hollow on noom but I accept most people aren’t looking for intense spiritual experiences of rhapsody or human bleakness when choosing a holiday; or even a home0 -
How to win friends and influence people. Clacton edition.
https://x.com/alicia_fitzg/status/1797988375720513547?s=46
It won’t make a lot of difference but is amusing to have your supporters being battered by low hanging foliage.1 -
I'd actually like this. Pity they will never get to implementFrancisUrquhart said:The Conservatives will pledge to abolish inheritance tax in “one big throw of the tax dice” to try and save themselves from electoral wipeout, George Osborne has said. The former chancellor described the proposal to get rid of death duties as a “potent weapon” in the Tories’ arsenal which they are likely to reach for given their standing in the polls.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/04/conservatives-scrap-inheritance-tax-election-george-osborne/0 -
Did my first general election poll for YouGov. Asked about vote, vote in my specific constituency, how would I feel if Farage was elected, and who's run the best and worst campaigns so far... after a bunch of other questions on clothes purchasing.1
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Should form part of the next MRP then!bondegezou said:Did my first general election poll for YouGov. Asked about vote, vote in my specific constituency, how would I feel if Farage was elected, and who's run the best and worst campaigns so far... after a bunch of other questions on clothes purchasing.
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"Council leader not endorsed as Labour candidate for Barking, say sources
Darren Rodwell will not be on party’s 650-strong list of candidates after series of allegations about his behaviour"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/04/council-leader-darren-rodwell-will-not-be-labour-candidate-for-barking-say-sources0 -
OK, I've got one:
Q. Why did the Indian cross the road?
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The Italians did it in 1943LostPassword said:
I'm not a fan of Modi, but I think it would be a rum do if a party that stood for election as part of one alliance switched sides faster than Sian Berry to support the other.SandyRentool said:
Two of the BJP's allies - the Janata Dal (United) and the Telugu Desam Party - are leading in close to 30 seats. The BJP - which seems to have been restricted to around 240 seats - needs them to reach 272 seats to be in power.Ghedebrav said:
Elsewhere I've seen 'majority slashed' rather than lost. Doesn't seem to be clear yet.Andy_JS said:Bloody hell.
"Modi set to lose majority in shock Indian election result"
https://www.ft.com
But both the TDP and the JDU are former Congress partners, and Mr Gandhi did not rule out the possibility of holding talks with them. 1 -
Some bus companies have old open-top busses that act as pruning busses; they go along double-decker routes with people standing on the top deck, pruning the worst vegetation. Farage should have thought of a little money-earner and given everyone on the top deck electric shears...ToryJim said:How to win friends and influence people. Clacton edition.
https://x.com/alicia_fitzg/status/1797988375720513547?s=46
It won’t make a lot of difference but is amusing to have your supporters being battered by low hanging foliage.0 -
Well the majority governments elected under FPTP start out with a degree of popularity. Often in PR it seems that extreme political groupings that garner single digits of support end up holding the whip hand and can make almost any demand they wish. Not certain that’s a good thing.EPG said:
PR gives the government to deeply unpopular groups, whereas FPTP on the other hand... (apologies)ToryJim said:
I agree most of the case work should be dealt with by local councillors, but that would require an overhaul of the status of local government. Currently they are little better than branch offices of Whitehall especially given the growth of ring fenced funding.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
I think the constituency link is important, I’m not entirely wedded to FPTP and could be persuaded towards AV even though I’m aware of the limitations. Not keen on pure PR systems given the tendency to give outsized influence to deeply unpopular groups and to end up with government programs devoid of any of the policies that attracted the votes to start with.2 -
Your MP is elected as the MP for your constituency. Representing you and their other constituents should be their first priority. Representing their chosen political party should not be their first priority, but, sadly, usually is, even if to the detriment of their constituents.MightyAlex said:
No! The case work grounds them in as much as that is possible. Dealing with constituency issues gives them a perspective into the lives of the citizenship for whom they are supposed to be serving and is a link for the governed to air their grievances.SandyRentool said:
As long as we have FPTP and individual constituency MPs, this will be an issue. Too many MPs see themselves as glorified social workers first, legislators second.ToryJim said:
I do find this angle kind of weird, artificially reducing the talent pool for spurious reasons. Picking candidates who know the square root of bugger all simply because they have some tenuous claim to ‘links’ with an area seems an act of self harm. Most of the towering politicians of prior generations didn’t have deep links in the seats they held. It did neither them nor the country any harm. I think this is one of the biggest reasons we have such dire quality MPs.SandyRentool said:
So what you are saying is that he had no links with Penrith!HYUFD said:
He has links to the area though, his mother and sister live in Theydon Bois and his father was a North Weald Parish councillorAndy_JS said:Neil Hudson, Tory MP for Penrith (until dissolution), has been selected for Epping Forest after failing to get selected in the new constituency in his previous area.
Bugger the case work - leave it to local councillors. And focus on matters of national and international importance.
Besides I'd make the case that matters of national & international import are rarely the remit of the common or garden backbencher.1 -
David Blunkett??!!!Leon said:Can this be right?
“It’s pure cope to say Farage isn’t popular. He is the most popular politician in the UK - and by quite some margin. This from YouGov Q1 2024.”
https://x.com/aaronbastani/status/1797975160538189834?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
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Looks like the Green Party running an interference campaignToryJim said:How to win friends and influence people. Clacton edition.
https://x.com/alicia_fitzg/status/1797988375720513547?s=46
It won’t make a lot of difference but is amusing to have your supporters being battered by low hanging foliage. 0 -
I believe that makes you what the OED would term: an idiot.148grss said:
That would make sense - wolves and bears are just a lot cooler than lynx, and just as native to the country. I do dislike living in a country where the largest native carnivore that isn't extinct is the badger. And there is an unnecessary cull on them!LostPassword said:
I've read things from people in the know who think that Lynx would do the job.148grss said:LostPassword said:
Moggies first. The medium-sized cat predators are much less scary and threatening than wolves and bears.148grss said:
Yeah - I'm a veggie but we do need to cull wild deer in this country. Personally I'd like to see this happen by bringing back predator species, because wolves and bears are cool, but failing that letting people eat deer is reasonable.Eabhal said:
Except for deer.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Yes, it's another step in the process of civilisation. Once upon a time animal torture was regarded as acceptable, but nowadays people aren't so keen. Long may the trend continue.Heathener said:
Thank goodness.TheScreamingEagles said:
🔴 NEW: Labour will ban foie gras imports if they win the general election, the shadow environment secretary has announced
https://x.com/TelePolitics/status/1797907892743385443
Disgusting practice. Absolutely appalling animal cruelty.
But I don't think they would predate on the deer enough. We need big predators that would not only cull numbers but change deer behaviour and make them more worried around open spaces and watering holes and such. The issue of deer is not just their numbers, but their grazing habits and the erosion they cause by not really acting in ways they would of when they did have predators. Their numbers alongside this behaviour change is what makes the impact so much worse.LostPassword said:
Moggies first. The medium-sized cat predators are much less scary and threatening than wolves and bears.148grss said:
Yeah - I'm a veggie but we do need to cull wild deer in this country. Personally I'd like to see this happen by bringing back predator species, because wolves and bears are cool, but failing that letting people eat deer is reasonable.Eabhal said:
Except for deer.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Yes, it's another step in the process of civilisation. Once upon a time animal torture was regarded as acceptable, but nowadays people aren't so keen. Long may the trend continue.Heathener said:
Thank goodness.TheScreamingEagles said:
🔴 NEW: Labour will ban foie gras imports if they win the general election, the shadow environment secretary has announced
https://x.com/TelePolitics/status/1797907892743385443
Disgusting practice. Absolutely appalling animal cruelty.
The way I'd view it use that Lynx would be the best way to start, and sort out issues to do with livestock predation, and confidence-building with farmers. And then it's easier to make the case for other predators later.0 -
The “closet Leon” Will need to be careful if he gets to Russia, they don’t like that kind of chap.Farooq said:Has anyone noticed the closet Leon gets to the Russian border, the higher the frequency of shrill Putinist garbage?
Someone should send the cnut to Tierra del Fuego, see if he becomes moderately human.3 -
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Guido of idiot fame says 6 candidates may jump Con to Reform but only one is a former MP
One Says they are waiting to see how Dishy does tonight0 -
Er, I know Scotland very well. I’ve been all over it. I’ve been to Foula and St Kilda! Harris and Orkney. Glasgow and Dundee. Edinburgh and the borders Kilmartin and knoydart and ardnamurchan and the trossachsLuckyguy1983 said:
You should visit Scotland a lot more, its beauty competes with anything in France I've seen - I can't say I've been everywhere there but I lived in Nice for three months and I've been around a fair bit.Leon said:
It is. Its a close contest between France and Italy for the most beautiful country in the worldAnabobazina said:
Gorgeous! It is very hard to beat France.Leon said:
I will use my one daily photo to show a lovely lady I met in my journey down the Loire. She owned this tiny chateau and these remarkable birds and she expertly flirted over her own wine as we lunched in her bucolic garden. BlissTOPPING said:
Yep same here I did Cycling for Softies there some time ago. Fantastic popping into out of the way chateaux to be greeted by the owners sitting outside in their faded cotton trousers offering you a glass of rosé.El_Capitano said:
The Loire is lovely. I did it upstream as far as Cosne Cours sur Loire a couple of years back. Easy to make good progress and also easy to get utterly diverted and stop off in every town along the way. Enjoy. https://cycle.travel/route/loirekjh said:
My favourite was Daisy Cooper and her gang on the boat behind Rishi Sunak. As I said yesterday we might not be going to win the election but we are having great fun not doing so and I have to say the local campaign I have been involved in has been a huge amount of fun with lots of laughs. The most enjoyable so far and I have been involved in a lot.El_Capitano said:
Ah, if Nige had listened to Rubberbandits' seminal "Up Da Ra", he wouldn't have made that mistake.Roger said:OT. Posted by NigelB yesterday. Something to uplift us all. My favourite moment of the campaign so far
https://x.com/DUPleader/status/1797662088627994889/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGaeL22Pkps
(Their "Horse Outside" is just as good.)
I am going to miss it for the next 10 days as I cycle along the banks of the Loire. 7 days cycling, 400+ km to go. I might post some pictures but I don't have a Jess the cat or a dog for scale.
We are lucky to have them on our doorstep
They also have different strengths as destinations. France is much better organised and has better infra, but the Italians are much more charming and affable - a serious positive
Britain beats them both hollow on noom but I accept most people aren’t looking for intense spiritual experiences of rhapsody or human bleakness when choosing a holiday; or even a home
It is very beautiful in places. As are many parts of Britain - the Cornish creeks. The South Downs. The Welsh marches. Lakeland. Northumberland. Devon and Dorset
They just don’t compete in total variety and beauty with Italy and France to my mind
In terms of major countries and beauty per square mile I’d put Britain in the top ten
In fact as I am forever stuck at the Ukraine border I’ll have a go. I’m ignoring microstates and tiny islands etc
Top ten beautiful countries in terms of beauty per sq mile
Italy
France
Greece
Turkey
Switzerland
USA
Japan
UK
China
Spain or Nepal0 -
Indeed: there are a fascinating number of ways this can play out.Sean_F said:
Farage might also gain vote share for Reform, by enthusing don't knows/won't votes.HYUFD said:Yougov voteshares with Farage as Reform Leader earlier this year
Con 21%
Labour 42%
Reform 14%
LD 10%
Farage took from the Tories and Labour who were both down 1% the poll found but the LDs rose 1% ironically if Farage returned
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1742602515324035262
The biggest concern - though - for the Conservative Party is that this ends up splitting their vote in two, which would be disastrous in an FPTP the world.
Maybe those people buying LibDem seats on 40+ are less crazy than I thought.
Political parties are coalitions. The Conservative Party used to draw together those who wanted limited change because it protected their financial assets (i.e. capitalists), and those who want to preserve the social order. You can call these Cameroons and Faragists, if you like.
And, obviously, there's a lot of overlap, but the former group is motivated primarily by greed, while the latter by fear.
If you split asunder the Right, then neither part is big enough to get elected. Between them they probably get more votes than the old Conservative Party, but that's not much help if each is on 25%, and Labour is on 40%.0 -
The police have been told not to arrest too many criminals.Leon said:
And who will ever stand for Parliament if we tolerate assault on them? The girl that chucked the milkshake needs a couple of weeks in prison and a criminal record. Make everyone else think twiceFrancisUrquhart said:
Obviously even without widespread access to guns, we have lost several MPs in recent history to knife / sword attacks.nico679 said:
Lucky the UK isn’t awash with guns . I loathe Farage but the public should stick to using the ballot box to make their point and not try and intimidate politicians.FrancisUrquhart said:
The thing is we have had the weirdo people locked up for intimidating the likes of the egg heads and the extreme Brexit types against MPs who were prominent trying to stop Brexit. That was all taken incredibly seriously by the earnest media and the courts.Leon said:
I want Farage elected just because of thisFrancisUrquhart said:
Now had a milkshake thrown over him.ToryJim said:Not all going Farage’s way in Clacton I see.
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1797980355422818749?s=46
I will say, stunts like this are very often counterproductive. Although it wouldn’t be a general election without something being thrown at a politician.
Lock em up. Attack on democracy shouldn't be tolerated, be it when it was against Corbyn or Farage like this or the actual attenpts on lives. Because now this will just happen every day.
No one will ever bother in our democracy if we tolerate this. It’s putrid. And yes - same goes for Corbyn or Galloway
If you attack a politician you should do time
This will be laughed about, even if it any liquid could be in there.
The thing is the more this happens, the more no MP will ever interact with the genuine public, which can't be a good thing (see Sunak leadership).0 -
‘It’s between us and gangs’: teachers are on the front line against youth violence
https://theconversation.com/its-between-us-and-gangs-teachers-are-on-the-front-line-against-youth-violence-230610
While all the parties are talking about gender toilets and VAT on private schools.1 -
The US has a lot of natural beauty. But in terms of "per square mile", it isn't in the top 50. Large parts of the country are arid wilderness of a particularly boring kind.Leon said:
Er, I know Scotland very well. I’ve been all over it. I’ve been to Foula and St Kilda! Harris and Orkney. Glasgow and Dundee. Edinburgh and the borders Kilmartin and knoydart and ardnamurchan and the trossachsLuckyguy1983 said:
You should visit Scotland a lot more, its beauty competes with anything in France I've seen - I can't say I've been everywhere there but I lived in Nice for three months and I've been around a fair bit.Leon said:
It is. Its a close contest between France and Italy for the most beautiful country in the worldAnabobazina said:
Gorgeous! It is very hard to beat France.Leon said:
I will use my one daily photo to show a lovely lady I met in my journey down the Loire. She owned this tiny chateau and these remarkable birds and she expertly flirted over her own wine as we lunched in her bucolic garden. BlissTOPPING said:
Yep same here I did Cycling for Softies there some time ago. Fantastic popping into out of the way chateaux to be greeted by the owners sitting outside in their faded cotton trousers offering you a glass of rosé.El_Capitano said:
The Loire is lovely. I did it upstream as far as Cosne Cours sur Loire a couple of years back. Easy to make good progress and also easy to get utterly diverted and stop off in every town along the way. Enjoy. https://cycle.travel/route/loirekjh said:
My favourite was Daisy Cooper and her gang on the boat behind Rishi Sunak. As I said yesterday we might not be going to win the election but we are having great fun not doing so and I have to say the local campaign I have been involved in has been a huge amount of fun with lots of laughs. The most enjoyable so far and I have been involved in a lot.El_Capitano said:
Ah, if Nige had listened to Rubberbandits' seminal "Up Da Ra", he wouldn't have made that mistake.Roger said:OT. Posted by NigelB yesterday. Something to uplift us all. My favourite moment of the campaign so far
https://x.com/DUPleader/status/1797662088627994889/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGaeL22Pkps
(Their "Horse Outside" is just as good.)
I am going to miss it for the next 10 days as I cycle along the banks of the Loire. 7 days cycling, 400+ km to go. I might post some pictures but I don't have a Jess the cat or a dog for scale.
We are lucky to have them on our doorstep
They also have different strengths as destinations. France is much better organised and has better infra, but the Italians are much more charming and affable - a serious positive
Britain beats them both hollow on noom but I accept most people aren’t looking for intense spiritual experiences of rhapsody or human bleakness when choosing a holiday; or even a home
It is very beautiful in places. As are many parts of Britain - the Cornish creeks. The South Downs. The Welsh marches. Lakeland. Northumberland. Devon and Dorset
They just don’t compete in total variety and beauty with Italy and France to my mind
In terms of major countries and beauty per square mile I’d put Britain in the top ten
In fact as I am forever stuck at the Ukraine border I’ll have a go. I’m ignoring microstates and tiny islands etc
Top ten beautiful countries in terms of beauty per sq mile
Italy
France
Greece
Turkey
Switzerland
USA
Japan
UK
China
Spain or Nepal3 -
Dedication from the supporter with the big speaker wobbling about on their headwooliedyed said: 1 -
@HYUFD is not a PB Tory.TOPPING said:
What? @HYUFD _is_ the PB Tories.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. As is so often the case, you are both precise and fair in your thinking – unlike many of the PB Tories who just jump on to half-baked, semi-quotes without checking them, in acts of naked desperation.HYUFD said:
To be fair to Rayner she says she supports nuclear weapons while Putin has them, just wants disarmament globally in an ideal worldnico679 said:
The BBC originally screwed up this by not reporting the full story .Alanbrooke said:lol Labour looks like it will be as divided as the Tories.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-said-she-wants-to-scrap-nuclear-weapons-hours-after-starmer-said-shadow-cabinet-backs-him/ar-BB1nAJeG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5728ef3d25bb4a18a570861ca8166f83&ei=14
Or used to be.
@HYUFD is the PB Tory. The original article, you might say1 -
If Reform were to poll close to say, 20%, it would be extremely hard to model what that would mean in terms of seats. It might mean nothing, or it might mean dozens. My suspicion is that if Reform actually overtook the Conservatives in the polls, there'd then be a stampede of Conservative voters towards them.rcs1000 said:
Indeed: there are a fascinating number of ways this can play out.Sean_F said:
Farage might also gain vote share for Reform, by enthusing don't knows/won't votes.HYUFD said:Yougov voteshares with Farage as Reform Leader earlier this year
Con 21%
Labour 42%
Reform 14%
LD 10%
Farage took from the Tories and Labour who were both down 1% the poll found but the LDs rose 1% ironically if Farage returned
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1742602515324035262
The biggest concern - though - for the Conservative Party is that this ends up splitting their vote in two, which would be disastrous in an FPTP the world.
Maybe those people buying LibDem seats on 40+ are less crazy than I thought.
Political parties are coalitions. The Conservative Party used to draw together those who wanted limited change because it protected their financial assets (i.e. capitalists), and those who want to preserve the social order. You can call these Cameroons and Faragists, if you like.
And, obviously, there's a lot of overlap, but the former group is motivated primarily by greed, while the latter by fear.
If you split asunder the Right, then neither part is big enough to get elected. Between them they probably get more votes than the old Conservative Party, but that's not much help if each is on 25%, and Labour is on 40%.2 -
I just love the 'fuck all' and the laugh. Even the messiah has nothing to offer, we hate them all, they are nothing.Selebian said:
Anarchy and bliss.0 -
The shopping one would be a neat trick – I believe there are still some shops "Tube-side", if chewing gum and bottles of low-grade orange juice are your idea of retail therapy.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Four ways spring to mind: getting stuck in a tunnel; getting the tap in/out sequence wrong when changing lines so the system loses track of you; popping off for a spot of shopping while changing lines.Anabobazina said:
It would take a special punter indeed to spend 95 minutes on the Tube in Zone 1. It is a whole new world of Travelling Salesman Problem to calculate how such a feat could be achieved.rcs1000 said:
I can't stand slow people on public transport. If fines are are needed to make them speed up, or at least get out of my way, then fines there must be.Andy_JS said:"How London Underground fines you if you travel too slowly across the city"
https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/24/london-underground-fines-travel-slowly-across-city-20340117/
This is what can be avoided with a paper ticket, and why they wanted to abolish them recently, although changed their minds at the last minute after lots of people complained.
(no deliberate loitering allowed)
And most common will be simply using different cards to tap in and out.0 -
Yes, I wrestled with that one. Same applies to Chinarcs1000 said:
The US has a lot of natural beauty. But in terms of "per square mile", it isn't in the top 50. Large parts of the country are arid wilderness of a particularly boring kind.Leon said:
Er, I know Scotland very well. I’ve been all over it. I’ve been to Foula and St Kilda! Harris and Orkney. Glasgow and Dundee. Edinburgh and the borders Kilmartin and knoydart and ardnamurchan and the trossachsLuckyguy1983 said:
You should visit Scotland a lot more, its beauty competes with anything in France I've seen - I can't say I've been everywhere there but I lived in Nice for three months and I've been around a fair bit.Leon said:
It is. Its a close contest between France and Italy for the most beautiful country in the worldAnabobazina said:
Gorgeous! It is very hard to beat France.Leon said:
I will use my one daily photo to show a lovely lady I met in my journey down the Loire. She owned this tiny chateau and these remarkable birds and she expertly flirted over her own wine as we lunched in her bucolic garden. BlissTOPPING said:
Yep same here I did Cycling for Softies there some time ago. Fantastic popping into out of the way chateaux to be greeted by the owners sitting outside in their faded cotton trousers offering you a glass of rosé.El_Capitano said:
The Loire is lovely. I did it upstream as far as Cosne Cours sur Loire a couple of years back. Easy to make good progress and also easy to get utterly diverted and stop off in every town along the way. Enjoy. https://cycle.travel/route/loirekjh said:
My favourite was Daisy Cooper and her gang on the boat behind Rishi Sunak. As I said yesterday we might not be going to win the election but we are having great fun not doing so and I have to say the local campaign I have been involved in has been a huge amount of fun with lots of laughs. The most enjoyable so far and I have been involved in a lot.El_Capitano said:
Ah, if Nige had listened to Rubberbandits' seminal "Up Da Ra", he wouldn't have made that mistake.Roger said:OT. Posted by NigelB yesterday. Something to uplift us all. My favourite moment of the campaign so far
https://x.com/DUPleader/status/1797662088627994889/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGaeL22Pkps
(Their "Horse Outside" is just as good.)
I am going to miss it for the next 10 days as I cycle along the banks of the Loire. 7 days cycling, 400+ km to go. I might post some pictures but I don't have a Jess the cat or a dog for scale.
We are lucky to have them on our doorstep
They also have different strengths as destinations. France is much better organised and has better infra, but the Italians are much more charming and affable - a serious positive
Britain beats them both hollow on noom but I accept most people aren’t looking for intense spiritual experiences of rhapsody or human bleakness when choosing a holiday; or even a home
It is very beautiful in places. As are many parts of Britain - the Cornish creeks. The South Downs. The Welsh marches. Lakeland. Northumberland. Devon and Dorset
They just don’t compete in total variety and beauty with Italy and France to my mind
In terms of major countries and beauty per square mile I’d put Britain in the top ten
In fact as I am forever stuck at the Ukraine border I’ll have a go. I’m ignoring microstates and tiny islands etc
Top ten beautiful countries in terms of beauty per sq mile
Italy
France
Greece
Turkey
Switzerland
USA
Japan
UK
China
Spain or Nepal
But when America is beautiful - mainly in the west - it is often fantastically beautiful. Ditto China
How can you not include a country with Yosemite and the sequoias and the Arizonan deserts and the wildness of Utah? How can you not include a country that boasts Tibet and Yunnan?
So it had to go in0 -
Raining at the Battle of Britain.0
