Stodge’s third and final look at the locals – politicalbetting.com
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She's deadly serious.Mexicanpete said:
Perhaps it was satire, like "letter boxes" ,"bank robbers".and "water melon smiles".TOPPING said:
Yep good point. Delicate petals us all. Just a slip of the tongue I have no doubt. British PM of Indian descent is "un-British". I mean who hasn't by mistake used a racist slur of this type.Mexicanpete said:
Your turn of phrase was unfortunate.Heathener said:
I think it’s very important to name it. Evil under the sun knows no distinction of race, creed, or colour. It exists everywhere on earth. It is the job of all good people to call it out.TOPPING said:
Hmm this post I find vaguely problematic in criticising a British PM of immigrant stock for being "profoundly un-British".Heathener said:
Along with this latest hideous attack on people with disabilities (including mental health).Mexicanpete said:
I hope Rwanda is binned on day one, assuming Labour wins.Andy_JS said:"Inside Labour’s immigration dilemma
The party might keep the Rwanda plan until it has agreed a returns policy with the EU.
By Andrew Marr"
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2024/04/would-labour-keep-the-rwanda-scheme
Rishi Sunak belongs to that old Indian businessman mentality of Master-Slave, spuriously justified on the basis of caste but really nothing more than dog-eats-dog.
It’s profoundly un-British.
I doubt you meant your comment to be a racial slur, more a personal sleight against Sunak, but you know what a bunch of snowflakes we have on here.0 -
That's becoming semantics though. Born female, id as male, transition to male, live your life as a male, die as a male ... what WERE you?Stocky said:
If gender is about identifying as a man or a woman then it's obvious that the concept is not a load of old cobblers.kinabalu said:
If a person believes the concept of Gender (as something potentially different to Birth Sex) is a load of old cobblers it follows that they feel the same about the Transgender identity. Doesn't it?viewcode said:
The whole point and unifying principle of gender critical thought is that trans women are not women, usually phrased as "trans women are men" or "TWAM". Opinions vary as what is to be done with them, with at one end believing that they are to be dealt with politely but no further (eg calling them "her" in social situations but not allowed to use toilets), and others believing that they are not to be so characterised in any circumstances. But in no case is the status of "woman" to be bestowed upon them regarding single-sex situations.LostPassword said:
I think it can be both, if you were to accept that many of the "sex realists" were good faith critics of what was the status quo, and didn't fit the trans-hating caricature that their opponents created.kinabalu said:I've spent some time with the Cass Report and I cannot for the life of me see why it's being touted as some killer document that settles the Trans debate once and for all in favour of the 'antis' faction (or 'sex realists' if we must). To me it just looks like a series of sensible sounding recommendations about improving the care offered to children presenting with gender distress.
If it goes beyond 'identifying as' and into the realm of 'I actually am' then it is a load of old cobblers.
The answer to that is not a slamdunk imo.0 -
Charisma on the stump, Edwina on his stump !!HYUFD said:
Major at least had some charisma in person and on the stump (albeit he had Edwina whereas the other 2 seem to have no skeletons)malcolmg said:
Insult to ditchwaterHYUFD said:
Not being disliked as much as others can sometimes be a winning strategy, ask John Major or Starmer. Even if like them and Swinney you are as dull as ditchwaterSandyRentool said:SNP MP Kirsty Blackman said: “Fewer people dislike John Swinney than dislike Kate Forbes”
A ringing endorsement.0 -
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
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The paucity of long term evidence on medical transitioning and the prevalence of other issues along with gender distress, yes. I was not surprised by either of those findings.CarlottaVance said:
What it does do is completely derail the “no debate” “science is settled” “affirmative care” model defended, predominantly by middle aged, mid-life transitioned men. You see their “late realisation of their true selves” is bolstered by the evidence of “trans kids” - of which there may be some, but probably nothing like the numbers put on the chemical castration, surgical mutilation conveyor belt as currently practiced. I’m sure you read the bits in Cass where she comments on mental health comorbidities and how practitioners have no idea which child will persist in their trans status and which will desist - often turning out gay. Puberty is often a great solution to gender distress - you could view it as a human right.kinabalu said:I've spent some time with the Cass Report and I cannot for the life of me see why it's being touted as some killer document that settles the Trans debate once and for all in favour of the 'antis' faction (or 'sex realists' if we must). To me it just looks like a series of sensible sounding recommendations about improving the care offered to children presenting with gender distress.
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zzzzzTwickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
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Or yes AND no from the same person even.viewcode said:
I don't know, sorry. I assume there is somebody somewhere who will say "yes", and somebody somewhere who will say "no".kinabalu said:
If a person believes the concept of Gender (as something potentially different to Birth Sex) is a load of old cobblers it follows that they feel the same about the Transgender identity. Doesn't it?viewcode said:
The whole point and unifying principle of gender critical thought is that trans women are not women, usually phrased as "trans women are men" or "TWAM". Opinions vary as what is to be done with them, with at one end believing that they are to be dealt with politely but no further (eg calling them "her" in social situations but not allowed to use toilets), and others believing that they are not to be so characterised in any circumstances. But in no case is the status of "woman" to be bestowed upon them regarding single-sex situations.LostPassword said:
I think it can be both, if you were to accept that many of the "sex realists" were good faith critics of what was the status quo, and didn't fit the trans-hating caricature that their opponents created.kinabalu said:I've spent some time with the Cass Report and I cannot for the life of me see why it's being touted as some killer document that settles the Trans debate once and for all in favour of the 'antis' faction (or 'sex realists' if we must). To me it just looks like a series of sensible sounding recommendations about improving the care offered to children presenting with gender distress.
(sorry I wasn't expecting you to be Solomon there, more just floating some tentative logic)0 -
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Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...0 -
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...1 -
He's left wiggle room - 'not tolerate continued wilfull violations', 'if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances' - which is only sensible.Scott_xP said:
Presumably he is doing everything by the book.kle4 said:I know he threatened Trump with jail in the Order, but will he dare do it? Because Trump will violate again, no question.
Place the gag order.
Place the fine and warn of jail time.
Jail time...
I don't envy the role. Jail the man for not taking down the posts quick enough? Probably not going to happen. Jail for direct attacks? Justified, but the shit will hit the fan.
Of course it's all needless, since Trump has no need to violate the gag orders to attack witnesses and the like, he can get just as much mileage from complaining he cannot say things, and countless people and media will do all the attacking he needs.
Even a 1 night stint in jail might be illuminating though. Especially as he may not get prison time as a sentence even if he is convicted in this case (though it is possible).0 -
Sunak was very poor in the Tory leadership hustings. Unlike Truss, who did a different version of her stump speech to each event, he stuck to his 3 stupid lines delivered in an oddly high pitched, patronising tone. 'Our Wimmin!' etc. I haven't really watched any of his Commons duels with Starmer, as I have paint drying that I'd prefer to watch, but I don't hear great things, and I don't see why GE debates will reveal any hitherto unseen form.rcs1000 said:
I think Sunak would do quite well in the debates: while he's been a poor leader, he's no idiot, and is used to thinking on his feet. He'll also do better in an environment where he just needs to calmly keep repeating a few talking points. And, of course, his dullness will work to his advantage: what great personal failing can be laid at Sunak's feet.isam said:
Personally I don’t think he will out perform Sunak in the debates.SandyRentool said:
But he's up against Sunak. And Davey. And TBC from the SNP.isam said:Sir Keir will fall apart under scrutiny in the campaign debates.
I think Madeley is quite a good interviewer, plenty don’t, but could the Labour leader look any more shifty and evasive here? The blinking, the Partridge smirk, the repetition. So evasive
https://youtu.be/CbnyjcYGw_M?si=5G_k2NaUauMjD72L
So he'll look like a titan.
This, of course, depends on there being debates. With Starmer twenty points up, why would he risk them?0 -
Generals often just talk, but workers do the work.TOPPING said:
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...0 -
OK I am going to allow you to have the last word here.Twickbait_55 said:
Generals often just talk, but workers do the work.TOPPING said:
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...
Go for it and make it a good 'un.0 -
UPDATE | John Swinney said the party found itself in a 'different and more difficult situation' than it was 12 months ago – when he decided not to run.
https://x.com/stvnews/status/1785355822354096606?0 -
You are a shameful racist using disgusting tropes about brown people.Heathener said:Anyway, I’ll leave that one there. I’m very happy to call out evil wherever it exists across all colours, creeds, and races. Including my own.
But we have a fabric of social conscience and welfare in this country which that nasty piece of work wants to dismantle.
Judgement comes.0 -
You've been demoted from Field Marshall to General in the space of a few minutes!TOPPING said:
OK I am going to allow you to have the last word here.Twickbait_55 said:
Generals often just talk, but workers do the work.TOPPING said:
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...
Go for it and make it a good 'un.0 -
NEW: John Swinney is the preferred choice to replace Humza Yousaf as first minister among SNP members.
Among the general public, people prefer Kate Forbes for the role, a new Ipsos poll has found.
Both are seen as better picks than Anas Sarwar or Douglas Ross.
https://x.com/scotnational/status/17853561460830048910 -
Look, we had Liz Truss as PM. Being batshit crazy is not a bar to high office.viewcode said:
"Voices"? "Voices"????SandyRentool said:...it "wouldn't be my style" to ignore the voices telling him to run this time...
And, if I wanted to be a little more controversial I could point out Kate Forbes believes she hears voices too.0 -
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There are still 4 more alleged subsequent breaches that have to be ruled upon. And, as you say, there will be more. It is the nature of the beast.kle4 said:
The judge's comments on the finding of contempt were quite pointed, in essentially stating it's unfortunate $1000 is the maximum rather than something which might be proportionate to the wealth of a particular defendant, noting that the former is not much of a punishment for some. So it is $1000 per violation or jail, but he wishes he had more options.Scott_xP said:@ProjectLincoln
Starting Topics:
1. Judge Merchan has found Trump in contempt for 9 violations of the gag order in his election interference trial, fining him $1,000 each. He's also been threatened with jail time if he violates the order again. Trump has now violated his pretrial release conditions in all 4 of his criminal cases. He's testing the limits of the court and judicial system because he has no respect for the rule of law. None of this will matter to his supporters in the Republican Party who now view the rule of law as nothing but a speed bump in their path to absolute power.
2. In a new @Time interview, Trump lays out the most brazen, disturbing picture of what a second Trump term would look like yet. He tells Time he would “let red states monitor women’s pregnancies and prosecute those who violate abortion bans." When asked if he will pardon every one of the J6 insurrectionists, "absolutely yes." Nothing about Trump is normal and no one should think that he and President Biden are similar candidates. Biden respects the rule of law, individual rights, and democracy. Trump wants to make himself a dictator and destroy America by turning it into a fascist nation.
3. Trump's ongoing criminal trial continues to highlight his weaknesses on a national stage, and he can't slow it any longer. He tried to delay it but now everyone knows about his indiscretions, and his wife hates him. He's humiliated his family, and is sitting in cold courtrooms alone. His dementia is on full display, as he can barely stay awake in the middle of his own trial proceedings. Trump falls asleep in the courtroom because he stays up all night dejected, afraid and all alone. Try as he might, the only person to blame is Donald Trump.
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It doesn't. I started out agreeing with your point - i.e. that if you think gender is a load of old cobblers you would think the same of the transgender identity.kinabalu said:
Yes, I get that. But there is the condition of gender dysphoria (gender identity differing from birth sex). And the law (the GRA) recognizes this identity as valid.Cookie said:
Well yes.kinabalu said:
If a person believes the concept of Gender (as something potentially different to Birth Sex) is a load of old cobblers it follows that they feel the same about the Transgender identity. Doesn't it?viewcode said:
The whole point and unifying principle of gender critical thought is that trans women are not women, usually phrased as "trans women are men" or "TWAM". Opinions vary as what is to be done with them, with at one end believing that they are to be dealt with politely but no further (eg calling them "her" in social situations but not allowed to use toilets), and others believing that they are not to be so characterised in any circumstances. But in no case is the status of "woman" to be bestowed upon them regarding single-sex situations.LostPassword said:
I think it can be both, if you were to accept that many of the "sex realists" were good faith critics of what was the status quo, and didn't fit the trans-hating caricature that their opponents created.kinabalu said:I've spent some time with the Cass Report and I cannot for the life of me see why it's being touted as some killer document that settles the Trans debate once and for all in favour of the 'antis' faction (or 'sex realists' if we must). To me it just looks like a series of sensible sounding recommendations about improving the care offered to children presenting with gender distress.
It doesn't mean I'm not going to politely accede to someone who would rather I acted as if that person was the opposite sex.
But to my mind having a secret and intangible 'who you really are' in your mind is no different to having a soul, and I don't believe in that either. My view is that you are basically your biology.
So ... and I don't mean this in a bad way ... it doesn't matter what you believe, does it?
FWIW my view is that gender dysphoria is a mental issue which is being addressed as a physical issue. But as you say, it doesn't matter what I think.1 -
I rest my case m' lud 😉RobD said:
You've been demoted from Field Marshall to General in the space of a few minutes!TOPPING said:
OK I am going to allow you to have the last word here.Twickbait_55 said:
Generals often just talk, but workers do the work.TOPPING said:
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...
Go for it and make it a good 'un.0 -
The profoundly British toff-prole relationship, anathema to so much of the world?TOPPING said:
At least you have correctly identified the relationship between us.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...0 -
In principle the Cass Report has nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of gender identification and certainly has nothing to do with what it means to be a woman.kinabalu said:I've spent some time with the Cass Report and I cannot for the life of me see why it's being touted as some killer document that settles the Trans debate once and for all in favour of the 'antis' faction (or 'sex realists' if we must). To me it just looks like a series of sensible sounding recommendations about improving the care offered to children presenting with gender distress.
It is as you say a report on best practice for medical care. As such the audience is young people who are, or who think they are, of a different gender from the one they were born they were born with and are going through distress because of that, and their parents, medical practitioners and health policy makers. Most of us have no idea about best medical treatments.
I think Cass does have two problems. The people it is supposed to be helping are substantially hostile to it. By concentrating on treatments that should be stopped at least for now without proposing alternatives, the effect of Cass will be to limit treatment for those needing it, even though I don't think that's its intention.2 -
LooooooolllllAndy_JS said:"Inside Labour’s immigration dilemma
The party might keep the Rwanda plan until it has agreed a returns policy with the EU.
By Andrew Marr"
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2024/04/would-labour-keep-the-rwanda-scheme0 -
He's just channeling Leon this morning.Mexicanpete said:...
Field Marshal Topping is often rude to his subordinates. It goes with the territory. Attention!Twickbait_55 said:
Oh, so you are just a rude person then.TOPPING said:
Yeah v interesting.Twickbait_55 said:
Topping: I am guessing that somewhat rude comment was directed at my answer to Heather on his comments.Twickbait_55 said:
Erm . . .TOPPING said:
Can I just say (sorry I am not able to spend much time on PB because I have a fabulously interesting and varied life and you would be so envious of me if only you knew how fabulous and interesting it actually was and can you believe that people actually spend huge amounts of time, even when they are so called "travelling" on PB posting pictures of beer and temples and dogs and so forth whereas my time is infinitely more worthily spent and if you could only imagine how busy and fabulous and interesting I am you would weep.) I see the Cons are down in the polls.Twickbait_55 said:
Equally I'm only able to jump in/out PB and add comment from time to time, although I check in a couple of times daily.Heathener said:Apologies if this has been posted already (clue: I don’t spend much time on here!) but today’s More in Common poll has their lowest ever Conservative share of the vote (24%) and it is the largest Labour lead at 19% published by the firm.*
More in Common have generally had the tories higher than most other firms, and the Labour lead lower.
This is hardly good news for the Conservatives coming into the locals.
* Well, they had one other 19% Labour lead in June 2023 off a smaller sample size
Indeed, this is a bad poll for the Tories from MiC. Results of course will be leavened as not all councils are on full election, but it really isn't looking good.
With respect, I enjoy looking into PB and commenting from time to time as I am interested in politics and psephology and have been for a long time. Regarding posting pictures of fabulous temples and glorious holidays and suchlike, no I don't tend to do this. I'm not much of a one for social media or indeed showing off. So you are knocking on a closed door there.
I'm usually too knackered, I work ingovernment running sheltered housing for elderly people, perhaps for your somebody similar your mother or grandparents...
Not everybody lives in some contrived Fantasyland.
Sadly, this is what sometimes ruins the usually intelligent and interesting debate on PB. Snippy and smart arsed commentary. I'd love for you to have to do my job for a day, you wouldn't last five minutes and the (elderly social housing) residents would be all the worse for it.
It could be your own...
The original does it better.0
