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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,131


    Danny565 said:

    Emily Thornberry now the top story on BBC News, where before she was just mentioned in passing in the main story about the Tories' imminent byelection loss.

    The complete lack of PR nous at the top of the Labour party...

    How many people are watching BBC news at this time of night? It'll all be forgotten in the morning when Reckless gets his Warholian moment. I know she's a favourite on PB but how many voters would know who the shadow attorney general is?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,995
    edited November 2014
    TimB Well Bill is rumoured to have said 'she has had more women than I have!' Seriously though, women running for the top job have to be more macho than the men, look at Thatcher, Merkel, Golda Meir, Rousseff, Sturgeon etc none exactly model beauties of ladylike behaviour
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    Drop Myleene Petition passes 6000

    Would have thought most red blooded males might like that

    Terrible week for Ed.

    Have you noticed the consistent* Tory lead with YouGov since was pwned by Myleene. Just imagine the monstering Ed's going to get from the Tories during the next election.

    He's going to be as rubbish as a Hannibal at Zama.

    *My use of consistent may cause epistemological problems, of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
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    Tim_B said:

    HYUFD said:

    TimB Indeed, I could well see Hillary picking a Hispanic running mate, for the first ticket ever without a white male

    There are rumors that Hillary IS a white male :-)
    Lol!

    I had a fun five pound throw away bet years back that it would be a Hillary/Condi ticket. I think I got 200/1.

    I guess that wasn't really a very good price?

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    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    how many voters would know who the shadow attorney general is?

    Zero.

    There isn't one...
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    kle4 said:

    Taxpayers may have to spend more than £3bn to stop Parliament turning into an unusable "ruin", Newsnight understands.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30137334

    I'm...actually ok with that amount. Politically difficult though I imagine.

    Let it fall down... on the heads of those inside, preferably!
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    Grandiose said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Everybody put up their St George flags yet?

    ET sums up metropolitan Labour oh so very well.

    I thought about hanging out my flag, but didn't want to attract too many Labour canvassers!
    Never had you down as a Chav!!

    Are you at DD tomorrow? Will you be wearing your Burberry Baseball cap?

    I will have my I love the NHS badge on!!
    Should I pop round and tell my Asian neighbours that you think they are chavs?

    Seems Emily is not alone in her views
    If you want I am pleased you are on good terms with them.

    I used to have a big Union Jack flag with Dronfield Owls written on it

    Flags are rubbish these days especially on cars.

    Cuts down your MPG too.

    I also used to go to away matches with scarfs out of both back windows.

    Was getting through about 10 scarves a season.

    Unlike you and Emily I generally don't judge people by what flags they hang out of their windows.
    Bet you don't have car flags though do you?

    Or a white van.

    Perhaps you can introduce me to your Asian neighbours they sound a wonderful example of the great Multicultural Society we have become to me.
    I am in Colchester, do come up if you can bear to mix with the working class.

    We have people from everywhere around here.

    I was pleased they hung out England flags you and your party think of them as chavs though - mores the pity.

    We can talk about the problems of getting a child into an overcrowded primary school whilst you are here,

    I didn't know you were in Colchester, floater!

    I grew up in one of the villages outside (which I shan't name, for privacy reasons) and went to school there.

    I am quite astounded that anyone could live anywhere that wasn't in any way socially mixed at any point in their lives.
    Although I was born in India, I spent part of my childhood in Colchester, from when I was about 6 months old till I was about 3.
    So you're the second greatest person ever to have lived in Colchester.
    Why thank you! But - Who's the greatest?
    Margaret Thatcher, she lived in Colchester during the 50s, briefly.
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 937

    Grandiose said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Everybody put up their St George flags yet?

    ET sums up metropolitan Labour oh so very well.

    I thought about hanging out my flag, but didn't want to attract too many Labour canvassers!
    Never had you down as a Chav!!

    Are you at DD tomorrow? Will you be wearing your Burberry Baseball cap?

    I will have my I love the NHS badge on!!
    Should I pop round and tell my Asian neighbours that you think they are chavs?

    Seems Emily is not alone in her views
    If you want I am pleased you are on good terms with them.

    I used to have a big Union Jack flag with Dronfield Owls written on it

    Flags are rubbish these days especially on cars.

    Cuts down your MPG too.

    I also used to go to away matches with scarfs out of both back windows.

    Was getting through about 10 scarves a season.

    Unlike you and Emily I generally don't judge people by what flags they hang out of their windows.
    Bet you don't have car flags though do you?

    Or a white van.

    Perhaps you can introduce me to your Asian neighbours they sound a wonderful example of the great Multicultural Society we have become to me.
    I am in Colchester, do come up if you can bear to mix with the working class.

    We have people from everywhere around here.

    I was pleased they hung out England flags you and your party think of them as chavs though - mores the pity.

    We can talk about the problems of getting a child into an overcrowded primary school whilst you are here,

    I didn't know you were in Colchester, floater!

    I grew up in one of the villages outside (which I shan't name, for privacy reasons) and went to school there.

    I am quite astounded that anyone could live anywhere that wasn't in any way socially mixed at any point in their lives.
    Although I was born in India, I spent part of my childhood in Colchester, from when I was about 6 months old till I was about 3.
    So you're the second greatest person ever to have lived in Colchester.
    Why thank you! But - Who's the greatest?
    The emperor Claudius of course!
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,020
    I must admit to being bemused by the interpretation being undertaken by posters in relation to Farage/Reckless/Tory comments. What makes people think they know what will happen much better than us? They don't have private polling more recently than we do, I suspect. They have canvass data, but this site has proven canvass data unreliable many times in the past.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,204
    She resigned?? lol
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    She resigned?? lol

    Who wouldn't?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,995
    Kle4 Tonight Ken has been pro EU, pro immigration and anti Mansion tax, well I suppose the LDs might hold their deposit in Kensington and Richmond!
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    The former Prime Minister was no stranger to Essex.

    After graduating from Oxford University in 1947, Baroness Thatcher, then known as Miss Margaret Roberts, lived in Colchester.

    She lived in lodgings in the town for two years from 1948 until 1950 while working as a research chemist at the BX Plastics Company in Brantham near Manningtree. The future Prime Minister would catch the bus from Colchester to Brantham every morning.

    http://www.heart.co.uk/essex/news/local/essex-thatchers-county-connection/
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    Grandiose said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Everybody put up their St George flags yet?

    ET sums up metropolitan Labour oh so very well.

    I thought about hanging out my flag, but didn't want to attract too many Labour canvassers!
    Never had you down as a Chav!!

    Are you at DD tomorrow? Will you be wearing your Burberry Baseball cap?

    I will have my I love the NHS badge on!!
    Should I pop round and tell my Asian neighbours that you think they are chavs?

    Seems Emily is not alone in her views
    If you want I am pleased you are on good terms with them.

    I used to have a big Union Jack flag with Dronfield Owls written on it

    Flags are rubbish these days especially on cars.

    Cuts down your MPG too.

    I also used to go to away matches with scarfs out of both back windows.

    Was getting through about 10 scarves a season.

    Unlike you and Emily I generally don't judge people by what flags they hang out of their windows.
    Bet you don't have car flags though do you?

    Or a white van.

    Perhaps you can introduce me to your Asian neighbours they sound a wonderful example of the great Multicultural Society we have become to me.
    I am in Colchester, do come up if you can bear to mix with the working class.

    We have people from everywhere around here.

    I was pleased they hung out England flags you and your party think of them as chavs though - mores the pity.

    We can talk about the problems of getting a child into an overcrowded primary school whilst you are here,

    I didn't know you were in Colchester, floater!

    I grew up in one of the villages outside (which I shan't name, for privacy reasons) and went to school there.

    I am quite astounded that anyone could live anywhere that wasn't in any way socially mixed at any point in their lives.
    Although I was born in India, I spent part of my childhood in Colchester, from when I was about 6 months old till I was about 3.
    So you're the second greatest person ever to have lived in Colchester.
    Why thank you! But - Who's the greatest?
    I'm thinking Graham Gooch, but it might be Caesar.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Burnham 2nd most obsessed with the NHS person in the UK.

    UKIP MP to vote to repeal Lansley Bill good on him.
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    Grandiose said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Everybody put up their St George flags yet?

    ET sums up metropolitan Labour oh so very well.

    I thought about hanging out my flag, but didn't want to attract too many Labour canvassers!
    Never had you down as a Chav!!

    Are you at DD tomorrow? Will you be wearing your Burberry Baseball cap?

    I will have my I love the NHS badge on!!
    Should I pop round and tell my Asian neighbours that you think they are chavs?

    Seems Emily is not alone in her views
    If you want I am pleased you are on good terms with them.

    I used to have a big Union Jack flag with Dronfield Owls written on it

    Flags are rubbish these days especially on cars.

    Cuts down your MPG too.

    I also used to go to away matches with scarfs out of both back windows.

    Was getting through about 10 scarves a season.

    Unlike you and Emily I generally don't judge people by what flags they hang out of their windows.
    Bet you don't have car flags though do you?

    Or a white van.

    Perhaps you can introduce me to your Asian neighbours they sound a wonderful example of the great Multicultural Society we have become to me.
    I am in Colchester, do come up if you can bear to mix with the working class.

    We have people from everywhere around here.

    I was pleased they hung out England flags you and your party think of them as chavs though - mores the pity.

    We can talk about the problems of getting a child into an overcrowded primary school whilst you are here,

    I didn't know you were in Colchester, floater!

    I grew up in one of the villages outside (which I shan't name, for privacy reasons) and went to school there.

    I am quite astounded that anyone could live anywhere that wasn't in any way socially mixed at any point in their lives.
    Although I was born in India, I spent part of my childhood in Colchester, from when I was about 6 months old till I was about 3.
    So you're the second greatest person ever to have lived in Colchester.
    Why thank you! But - Who's the greatest?
    Me. I lived in Goojerat barracks for nearly three years.
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    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    Agreed. It's all right to split as long as you don't do it in public.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Dougie -No-Mates getting slaughtered on QT
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,315
    edited November 2014




    Danny565 said:

    Emily Thornberry now the top story on BBC News, where before she was just mentioned in passing in the main story about the Tories' imminent byelection loss.

    The complete lack of PR nous at the top of the Labour party...

    How many people are watching BBC news at this time of night? It'll all be forgotten in the morning when Reckless gets his Warholian moment.
    Probably. Still an overreaction to sack her over this, but it was almost literally done too quickly for outrage to properly build up - the paper headlines to whip people up haven't been seen my most yet - and it's now older news than the Reckless win, even though him winning was expected.
    RobD said:

    She resigned?? lol

    The word resigned has no fixed meaning in politics of course, like football management.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,131

    Jesus Christ. Just when you think Ed can't get any more ridiculous this happens. The cluelessness is breathtaking. Tough on tweets. It really is The Thick of It.

    Wait a minute. Give Ed a break. We don't even know if it was his decision. Maybe she really did resign. Or perhaps Ed was facing a potential mutiny from others within the party.
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    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    But do you put in subtle pop music references in to your letters like someone who shall remain nameless does.
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 937
    I think I win!
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,514
    Today has been like an episode of The Thick of It, but with far less swearing.

    Except by Ed, I suspect.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,315
    RodCrosby said:

    kle4 said:

    Taxpayers may have to spend more than £3bn to stop Parliament turning into an unusable "ruin", Newsnight understands.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30137334

    I'm...actually ok with that amount. Politically difficult though I imagine.

    Let it fall down... on the heads of those inside, preferably!
    But it's such a wonderful building! At least put it to better use!
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    The former Prime Minister was no stranger to Essex.

    After graduating from Oxford University in 1947, Baroness Thatcher, then known as Miss Margaret Roberts, lived in Colchester.

    She lived in lodgings in the town for two years from 1948 until 1950 while working as a research chemist at the BX Plastics Company in Brantham near Manningtree. The future Prime Minister would catch the bus from Colchester to Brantham every morning.

    http://www.heart.co.uk/essex/news/local/essex-thatchers-county-connection/

    Brantham is in Suffolk.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,204
    Speedy said:

    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.

    Voodoo poll.
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    Okay, step back time. Let's be clear for a sec, using detective skills.

    Reckless last night inadvertently declared his hand i.e. it's not the thumping victory he'd originally expected.
    Farage tonight says it's no massive win
    Tories say there's absolutely no chance whatever they will win.

    Ergo, it's probably a UKIP win by 5-10%, possibly a little higher but not a thumping 20% lead.

    Tyndall, the reason UKIP are no different from the rest are that they're playing the same stupid tired old mind games as the others. It's as pathetic from Farage as it is from Cameron, Clegg and Miliband. Sorry to you-kippers on here but you're a far cry from a new political force.

    Why not take my under five seats bet then if you are that confident
    10% is the benchmark.

    For every percentage point above that, Farage's smile grows wider.

    If it's 20% or more, his face is likely to split in half.

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Ken Clarke really is excellent isn't he.

    How did he lose the leadership contest.

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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,514
    Out of interest, at what point can information from the opening of postal votes legally be disclosed? Does it have to be authorised by the Returning Officer?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Grandiose said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Floater said:

    Everybody put up their St George flags yet?

    ET sums up metropolitan Labour oh so very well.

    I thought about hanging out my flag, but didn't want to attract too many Labour canvassers!
    Never had you down as a Chav!!

    Are you at DD tomorrow? Will you be wearing your Burberry Baseball cap?

    I will have my I love the NHS badge on!!
    Should I pop round and tell my Asian neighbours that you think they are chavs?

    Seems Emily is not alone in her views
    If you want I am pleased you are on good terms with them.

    I used to have a big Union Jack flag with Dronfield Owls written on it

    Flags are rubbish these days especially on cars.

    Cuts down your MPG too.

    I also used to go to away matches with scarfs out of both back windows.

    Was getting through about 10 scarves a season.

    Unlike you and Emily I generally don't judge people by what flags they hang out of their windows.
    Bet you don't have car flags though do you?

    Or a white van.

    Perhaps you can introduce me to your Asian neighbours they sound a wonderful example of the great Multicultural Society we have become to me.
    I am in Colchester, do come up if you can bear to mix with the working class.

    We have people from everywhere around here.

    I was pleased they hung out England flags you and your party think of them as chavs though - mores the pity.

    We can talk about the problems of getting a child into an overcrowded primary school whilst you are here,

    I didn't know you were in Colchester, floater!

    I grew up in one of the villages outside (which I shan't name, for privacy reasons) and went to school there.

    I am quite astounded that anyone could live anywhere that wasn't in any way socially mixed at any point in their lives.
    Although I was born in India, I spent part of my childhood in Colchester, from when I was about 6 months old till I was about 3.
    Amazing — so did the singer Sade.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    UKIP did better than expected in both Heywood and Clacton. I think it's more likely than not the same thing will happen in Rochester.
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    GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    antifrank said:

    The former Prime Minister was no stranger to Essex.

    After graduating from Oxford University in 1947, Baroness Thatcher, then known as Miss Margaret Roberts, lived in Colchester.

    She lived in lodgings in the town for two years from 1948 until 1950 while working as a research chemist at the BX Plastics Company in Brantham near Manningtree. The future Prime Minister would catch the bus from Colchester to Brantham every morning.

    http://www.heart.co.uk/essex/news/local/essex-thatchers-county-connection/

    Brantham is in Suffolk.
    Colchester however is very much in Essex.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Speedy said:

    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.

    Is it "scientific" enough?

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    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    But do you put in subtle pop music references in to your letters like someone who shall remain nameless does.
    One client once agreed that we could uplift our bill by 10% if we wove ten pop song titles of his choice into serious letters of advice. That was the easiest uplift I've ever earned.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    Speedy said:

    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.

    Voodoo poll.
    Close to the actual opinion polls though.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @hopisen: Updated social media guide: things not to take pics of, put on internet: 1. Your bits. 2. You drinking champagne 3. You in pants 4. A house

    @mrianleslie: Thornberry stuff makes me nostalgic for less politically correct times. Churchill used to tweet whatever he bloody well felt like tweeting.
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    chestnut said:

    Dougie -No-Mates getting slaughtered on QT

    By the elite like Yasmin?

    As Emily proved today people like her and hypocrite Burnham are driving people to UKIP
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Dan Ware, the man who’s England flags and white van were photographed by Emily Thornberry, to her cost, has been speaking to the Telegraph. He said that he voted Conservative in 2010, that he did not know there was a byelection on and that he thought Thornberry was a snob."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/nov/20/rochester-and-strood-byelection-results-live-coverage
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Ms Chakravarty is pretty spot on about the NHS.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    chestnut said:

    Speedy said:

    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.

    Is it "scientific" enough?

    They call it an exit poll and a straw poll, my guess is that they asked a number of voters as they left the polling stations.
    You can ask them yourself: medwaymessenger@thekmgroup.co.uk
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    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt

    Burnham was worst for the patients, and they are more important than you
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Ken Clarke - Nobody understands the Lansley reforms
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Useless fact: the R&S count is taking place in Gillingham which is, funnily enough, in the Gillingham & Rainham constituency.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,204
    Bloody shouty on QT today.
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    Speedy said:

    Kent online have done a straw poll of Rochester:
    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/exit-polls-suggest-landslide-win-27328/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    UKIP 49%
    CON 29%
    LAB 16%
    GRN 6%
    LD 0% (yes ZERO)

    I wrote here weeks ago that the LD might be beaten by the Loonies.

    Should UKIP's lead be even half the 20% indicated by this straw poll, I'll be a very surprised but richer chappie.
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2014
    Rees-Mogg has done a Matthew Parris, insulting Rochester voters already:

    Rees-Mogg ‏@JakeReesMogg 2m2 minutes ago
    Might I be the first to welcome Rochester back to the Middle Ages?
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341

    by the elite like Yasmin?

    Yes.

    Worrying, isn't it?

    Even someone as "gifted" as Yasmin Alibai Brown has him floundering around like George Foreman on the ropes in the 8th round after being rope-a-doped by Muhammed Ali.

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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 26,032
    I can't believe they made her resign over that!! Not a hugely likeable tweet, but really??
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    antifrank said:

    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    But do you put in subtle pop music references in to your letters like someone who shall remain nameless does.
    One client once agreed that we could uplift our bill by 10% if we wove ten pop song titles of his choice into serious letters of advice. That was the easiest uplift I've ever earned.
    Why did I never have clients like that.

    I once managed to segue in most of the words of Never Gonna Give You Up.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    AndyJS said:

    "Dan Ware, the man who’s England flags and white van were photographed by Emily Thornberry, to her cost, has been speaking to the Telegraph. He said that he voted Conservative in 2010, that he did not know there was a byelection on and that he thought Thornberry was a snob."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/nov/20/rochester-and-strood-byelection-results-live-coverage

    How the heck can you have been living in R&S over the last 5 weeks and not know there was a byelection on?
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Speedy said:

    Rees-Mogg has done a Matthew Parris, insulting Rochester voters already:

    Rees-Mogg ‏@JakeReesMogg 2m2 minutes ago
    Might I be the first to welcome Rochester back to the Middle Ages?

    That's not the real Rees-Mogg
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    The Buffalo Bills NY Jets game will not take place in Buffalo on Sunday. It will be rescheduled and relocated.

    There are doubts that the game a week on Sunday will be played in Buffalo.

    There is a driving ban and apparently 220,000 tons of snow at the stadium.

    2 feet more of snow is expected.
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,833

    I can't believe they made her resign over that!! Not a hugely likeable tweet, but really??

    That is the power of Trial by Social Media. Death by a thousand Comment is Free cuts
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    Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    chestnut said:

    Ms Chakravarty is pretty .

    I definitely agree with that!
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    chestnut said:

    by the elite like Yasmin?

    Yes.

    Worrying, isn't it?

    Even someone as "gifted" as Yasmin Alibai Brown has him floundering around like George Foreman on the ropes in the 8th round after being rope-a-doped by Muhammed Ali.

    I had a pound on Ali to win in the eighth at 66/1, happy days
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,204
    isam said:

    Speedy said:

    Rees-Mogg has done a Matthew Parris, insulting Rochester voters already:

    Rees-Mogg ‏@JakeReesMogg 2m2 minutes ago
    Might I be the first to welcome Rochester back to the Middle Ages?

    That's not the real Rees-Mogg
    Will the real Rees-Mogg please stand up?
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,904

    Ken Clarke really is excellent isn't he.

    How did he lose the leadership contest.

    By taking a position on one issue (Europe, and specifically the Euro) which most of the party felt strongly about and which most of the party disagreed strongly with. (And which history showed that he was totally wrong about.)

    If, at any time biome between 97 and 05 he had been prepared to compromise even a little bit on this one issue the leadership was his for the taking. The fact that he didn't is both admirable and utterly exasperating.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Blue_rog said:

    chestnut said:

    Ms Chakravarty is pretty .

    I definitely agree with that!
    Yes
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2014
    isam said:

    Speedy said:

    Rees-Mogg has done a Matthew Parris, insulting Rochester voters already:

    Rees-Mogg ‏@JakeReesMogg 2m2 minutes ago
    Might I be the first to welcome Rochester back to the Middle Ages?

    That's not the real Rees-Mogg

    Correction, are you sure it's not him, there's only one twitter account with his name and it's this one:
    https://twitter.com/JakeReesMogg
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    FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    kle4 said:




    Danny565 said:

    Emily Thornberry now the top story on BBC News, where before she was just mentioned in passing in the main story about the Tories' imminent byelection loss.

    The complete lack of PR nous at the top of the Labour party...

    How many people are watching BBC news at this time of night? It'll all be forgotten in the morning when Reckless gets his Warholian moment.
    Probably. Still an overreaction to sack her over this, but it was almost literally done too quickly for outrage to properly build up - the paper headlines to whip people up haven't been seen my most yet - and it's now older news than the Reckless win, even though him winning was expected.
    RobD said:

    She resigned?? lol

    The word resigned has no fixed meaning in politics of course, like football management.
    Labour have got themselves into a mess and its all because of the way Cameron treated the result of the IndeRef. I doubt the kippers will give him much credit.
    A No vote followed by more devolution for Scotland but with EVEL as suggested by Cameron has spooked Labour.
    They protested about Cameron's proposal and EVEL and have thus managed to persuade Scots that they are trying to slow down more devolution, despite what Brown promised and of course by complaining about EVEL they risk annoying English voters.
    So when a shadow minister exploits an English flag they run scared.
    Its bad news for Labour not for the event but for the inability to deal with it. Its doubly stupid when you consider Labour were really quite happy for labour voters to 'protest' at the government as a way of embarrassing the tories. Now its them that look stupid.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,302
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Ken Clarke more leftwing than Burnham on QT

    New entertaining Clarke scenario - he defects to the ravaged LDs after 2015 and is elected Leader, now they are free of their RedLiberal section (and most of their votes)
    That's a good idea. He's obviously not a Conservative, Labour, or UKIP.
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    timmo said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Dan Ware, the man who’s England flags and white van were photographed by Emily Thornberry, to her cost, has been speaking to the Telegraph. He said that he voted Conservative in 2010, that he did not know there was a byelection on and that he thought Thornberry was a snob."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/nov/20/rochester-and-strood-byelection-results-live-coverage

    How the heck can you have been living in R&S over the last 5 weeks and not know there was a byelection on?
    Works for a living?

    And reads the Sun!
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    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    antifrank, you evidently have highly educated clients - my guess would be that the overwhelming majority wouldn't recognise a split infinitive was were one to painfully hit them between the eyes.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201

    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt

    Burnham was worst for the patients, and they are more important than you
    Not true he was pretty good overall

    Hundreds of new modern hospitals lowest ever waiting lists all good for patients

    Resulting in the Highest ever patient satisfaction levels.

    Lansley reforms are a conflict of interest for GPs with commissioning and provider roles and costing a fortune with all organisations in the NHS employing marketing departments and tendering teams to win business off each other rather than treating patients.

    Still you know best.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,514
    Cookie said:

    If, at any time biome between 97 and 05 he had been prepared to compromise even a little bit on this one issue the leadership was his for the taking. The fact that he didn't is both admirable and utterly exasperating.

    Spot on.

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    Tim_B said:

    The Buffalo Bills NY Jets game will not take place in Buffalo on Sunday. It will be rescheduled and relocated.

    There are doubts that the game a week on Sunday will be played in Buffalo.

    There is a driving ban and apparently 220,000 tons of snow at the stadium.

    2 feet more of snow is expected.

    The other day I read that Buffalo had 5 feet of snow over night! - the pix were amazing but pretty ghastly for the inhabitants I'd imagine.
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    I can't believe they made her resign over that!! Not a hugely likeable tweet, but really??

    That is the power of Trial by Social Media. Death by a thousand Comment is Free cuts
    It's a form of mob rule, isn't it?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,315
    edited November 2014

    antifrank said:

    Splitting infinitives is fine anyway. Often it is the best word order. Complaining about split infinitives is false pedantry.

    NB I never use them in client letters, because too many people mistakenly think that they're bad English.

    antifrank, you evidently have highly educated clients - my guess would be that the overwhelming majority wouldn't recognise a split infinitive was were one to painfully hit them between the eyes.
    True, and all the better for it, much as I would normally sing the praises of as much education as possible.
    Sean_F said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Ken Clarke more leftwing than Burnham on QT

    New entertaining Clarke scenario - he defects to the ravaged LDs after 2015 and is elected Leader, now they are free of their RedLiberal section (and most of their votes)
    That's a good idea. He's obviously not a Conservative, Labour, or UKIP.
    It is incredible how accepted it is that he is not really a Conservative despite going on 45 years as an MP, shows just how far someone can get from the current direction of travel in a party. If he doesn't defect then he should stand for as many years as it takes for the Tories to swing back around to be more like him again, even if it means 70 years+ in parliament. Could be a while, the newer batches are pretty far away at the moment.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    timmo said:

    AndyJS said:

    "Dan Ware, the man who’s England flags and white van were photographed by Emily Thornberry, to her cost, has been speaking to the Telegraph. He said that he voted Conservative in 2010, that he did not know there was a byelection on and that he thought Thornberry was a snob."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/nov/20/rochester-and-strood-byelection-results-live-coverage

    How the heck can you have been living in R&S over the last 5 weeks and not know there was a byelection on?
    And he was one of the 64% who did vote in 2010.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,302

    Ken Clarke really is excellent isn't he.

    How did he lose the leadership contest.

    He thought that joining The Euro was a great idea.

    In the same way that Abraham Lincoln thought "I'm tired of kicking round the house, let's take in a show" was a great idea, according to Captain Blackadder.

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    Tim_B said:

    The Buffalo Bills NY Jets game will not take place in Buffalo on Sunday. It will be rescheduled and relocated.

    There are doubts that the game a week on Sunday will be played in Buffalo.

    There is a driving ban and apparently 220,000 tons of snow at the stadium.

    2 feet more of snow is expected.

    I watched the Redskins last week, Tim.

    Is there any hope that the snow will last long enough for them to improve?

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    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt

    Burnham was worst for the patients, and they are more important than you
    Not true he was pretty good overall

    Hundreds of new modern hospitals lowest ever waiting lists all good for patients

    Resulting in the Highest ever patient satisfaction levels.

    Lansley reforms are a conflict of interest for GPs with commissioning and provider roles and costing a fortune with all organisations in the NHS employing marketing departments and tendering teams to win business off each other rather than treating patients.

    Still you know best.
    I'm not blinded by being able to retire at 54 with a big pension.

    Perhaps you could name the HUNDREDS of new modern hospitals, and while you are at it please detail the cost of any hospitals that were built under the PFI he signed up to.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Flag man was a Tory
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Speedy said:

    isam said:

    Speedy said:

    Rees-Mogg has done a Matthew Parris, insulting Rochester voters already:

    Rees-Mogg ‏@JakeReesMogg 2m2 minutes ago
    Might I be the first to welcome Rochester back to the Middle Ages?

    That's not the real Rees-Mogg

    Correction, are you sure it's not him, there's only one twitter account with his name and it's this one:
    https://twitter.com/JakeReesMogg
    Yeah pretty sure, read the blog it's a spoof
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    Cookie said:

    If, at any time biome between 97 and 05 he had been prepared to compromise even a little bit on this one issue the leadership was his for the taking. The fact that he didn't is both admirable and utterly exasperating.

    Spot on.

    He wouldn't lie to please the mob.

    What a scoundrel.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    edited November 2014

    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt

    Burnham was worst for the patients, and they are more important than you
    Not true he was pretty good overall

    Hundreds of new modern hospitals lowest ever waiting lists all good for patients

    Resulting in the Highest ever patient satisfaction levels.

    Lansley reforms are a conflict of interest for GPs with commissioning and provider roles and costing a fortune with all organisations in the NHS employing marketing departments and tendering teams to win business off each other rather than treating patients.

    Still you know best.
    I'm not blinded by being able to retire at 54 with a big pension.

    Perhaps you could name the HUNDREDS of new modern hospitals, and while you are at it please detail the cost of any hospitals that were built under the PFI he signed up to.
    I could but cant be arsed.

    You cant get over this early retirement thing can you.

    EDITED
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @adamboultonSKY: #RochesterandStrood count. Rumours @LibDems tanking in early tallies. Behind @UKIP Con Lab Green Monster Raving Loonies maybe Charlotte Rose
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    I'm surprised we haven't had an official turnout figure yet.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Hmm rumours its not as big a win as first thought...
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    The Buffalo Bills NY Jets game will not take place in Buffalo on Sunday. It will be rescheduled and relocated.

    There are doubts that the game a week on Sunday will be played in Buffalo.

    There is a driving ban and apparently 220,000 tons of snow at the stadium.

    2 feet more of snow is expected.

    The other day I read that Buffalo had 5 feet of snow over night! - the pix were amazing but pretty ghastly for the inhabitants I'd imagine.
    Some parts of the city had 6 feet in 24 hours. Oddly the airport got only 4 inches.

    I lived in Toronto many years ago and we were in awe of how much snow Buffalo got. My US immigration attorney was in Buffalo and inevitably it would have lake effect snow before my visits.

    But snow on this scale - and with an estimated 2-3 feet more coming - is unprecedented.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,995
    LDs may be behind dominatrix candidate in early counting in R and S, Nick Robinson
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 93,315
    edited November 2014
    Scott_P said:

    @adamboultonSKY: #RochesterandStrood count. Rumours @LibDems tanking in early tallies. Behind @UKIP Con Lab Green Monster Raving Loonies maybe Charlotte Rose

    No excuse for such pathetic results, even with all their troubles. Pitiful.

    Will no-one but UKIP have reason to smile tomorrow? Even a half smile?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Tim_B said:

    Some parts of the city had 6 feet in 24 hours.

    @LouiseSchiavone: Here's what all that snow in Buffalo looks like when you open your front door. http://t.co/F0hT15GjJJ
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,851
    edited November 2014
    Nick Robinson: Lib Dems could well finish behind dominatrix-independent.

    Immigrants voting UKIP, he says.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,020

    Nick Robinson: Lib Dems could well finish behind dominatrix-independent.

    Immigrants voting UKIP, it seems.

    Didn't Shadsy offer 25/1 on that event. Anyone on?
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    isam said:

    Hmm rumours its not as big a win as first thought...

    Care to share?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,204
    isam said:

    Hmm rumours its not as big a win as first thought...

    The "poll" posted earlier which pointed to a 20pt lead would be utterly devastating for us Blues. But thankfully, I don't believe it's true!
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    I claim the crown for tipster of the week:

    Britain Elects @britainelects · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Early count tallies indicate the Liberal Democrats might be in seventh place behind the Monster Raving Loony Party.
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    Ducks sake.

    I backed Charlotte Rose to beat off the Lib Dems at 25/1.

    Sadly it was in Clacton and not Rochester
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    NHS Plan 1997

    4000 more doctors, nurses and medical students by 2004

    Consultants to commit their first seven years to the NHS

    7000 more beds and 100 new hospital building schemes by 2010

    All patients to see a GP within 48 hours by 2004

    All were exceeded by 2010

    But N4E knows best

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    isamisam Posts: 41,118
    chestnut said:

    isam said:

    Hmm rumours its not as big a win as first thought...

    Care to share?
    @MichaelHeaver on twitter, my PC goes wonky trying to link from there
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited November 2014
    HYUFD said:

    LDs may be behind dominatrix candidate in early counting in R and S, Nick Robinson

    Shouldn't that read "underneath dominatrix candidate"? [although I'm not au fait with these things]
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,201
    Speedy said:

    I claim the crown for tipster of the week:

    Britain Elects @britainelects · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Early count tallies indicate the Liberal Democrats might be in seventh place behind the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    How has Clegg survived this long?
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    SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2014
    In 1990 the SDP closed shop after they were beaten by the Monster Raving Loonies in a westminster by-election, will the LD's have the decency to do the same tonight?
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    The Buffalo Bills NY Jets game will not take place in Buffalo on Sunday. It will be rescheduled and relocated.

    There are doubts that the game a week on Sunday will be played in Buffalo.

    There is a driving ban and apparently 220,000 tons of snow at the stadium.

    2 feet more of snow is expected.

    I watched the Redskins last week, Tim.

    Is there any hope that the snow will last long enough for them to improve?

    The snow was in Buffalo, not DC. The truth is that RG3 is not a very good quarterback. He has trouble reading coverages and cannot slide.
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    nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    edited November 2014

    Ken was one of the best SOS for Health in my 32 years

    Lansley was the worst IMO closely followed by Milburn and Hunt

    Burnham was worst for the patients, and they are more important than you
    Not true he was pretty good overall

    Hundreds of new modern hospitals lowest ever waiting lists all good for patients

    Resulting in the Highest ever patient satisfaction levels.

    Lansley reforms are a conflict of interest for GPs with commissioning and provider roles and costing a fortune with all organisations in the NHS employing marketing departments and tendering teams to win business off each other rather than treating patients.

    Still you know best.
    I'm not blinded by being able to retire at 54 with a big pension.

    Perhaps you could name the HUNDREDS of new modern hospitals, and while you are at it please detail the cost of any hospitals that were built under the PFI he signed up to.
    I could but cant be arsed.

    You cant get over this early retirement thing can you.

    EDITED
    That is completely out of order.

    Please find one single post I have ever made abusing Asians, that is a disgusting slur and you should be banned for making it.

    And you cannot name hundreds of hospitals because it isn't true and you know it.
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Speedy said:

    I claim the crown for tipster of the week:

    Britain Elects @britainelects · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Early count tallies indicate the Liberal Democrats might be in seventh place behind the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    Ask Dr. Owen what the next step should be...
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